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Plus, a debate about pepper spray and whether or not laws should be changed to better arm women against male violence. It’s complicated. 

And, Victoria Beckham is a big birthday girlie. She's just celebrated the big five zero, but the way she’s celebrating delivers a universal truth about women and milestone birthdays and we have thoughts. 

The End Bits: 
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Read: A Melbourne mum took her baby to Arj Barker's show when he asked her to leave.
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It might be Monday... but everyone is still talking about Taylor Swift's new double album The Tortured Poets Department. But is it time for Taylor to stop being petty to those who've crossed her? We can't agree. 
Plus, a debate about pepper spray and whether or not laws should be changed to better arm women against male violence. It’s complicated. 
And, Victoria Beckham is a big birthday girlie. She's just celebrated the big five zero, but the way she’s celebrating delivers a universal truth about women and milestone birthdays and we have thoughts. 
The End Bits: 
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<li>Listen to the latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/mia-rethinks-her-relationship-with-social-media/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Mia Re-thinks Her Relationship With Social Media</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/taylor-swift-kim-kardashian-snakes/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Kim Kardashian is seemingly slammed in Taylor Swift's new album. Their fight escalated well before this.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/arj-barker-breastfeeding-mother/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">A Melbourne mum took her baby to Arj Barker's show when he asked her to leave.</a></li>
<li>Get your tickets: <a href="https://www.outloudlive.com.au/">Mamamia Out Loud Live Presented By NIVEA CELLULAR</a></li>
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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