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After months of deafening conversation about her body, Ariana Grande is taking a break.&nbsp;
The Commonwealth Games is over and it was never meant to be like this.&nbsp;
The Out Loud hosts have handpicked their all-time favourite reads and one subscriber is winning the entire 12-book stack.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=mmol-book-giveaway">Subscribe to Mamamia to be automatically entered to win.</a> Current subscriber? You're already in the draw. T&amp;Cs apply.
One of the two most famous trad wives on the planet says we&rsquo;ve got her all wrong.&nbsp;
There&rsquo;s been a terrible update in the case of Nancy Guthrie.&nbsp;
Also, you and everyone you know is either an Anchor or a Sail.&nbsp;
And Amelia Lester has a precise colour equation for the fashion-challenged.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> and join me today. You hot? Same. Buy today and save 40%
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<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/leg-hair-harassment/">Leg Hair Harassment &amp; The Age We&rsquo;d Be Again</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-brad-pitt-the-half-life-wife/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Brad Pitt &amp; 'The Half Life Wife'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jennifer-aniston-boyfriend-book/">Inside Our Very Own Morning Wars</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/meghan-markle-masterchef-australia/">The Meghan Masterchef Theory &amp; A Very Public Family Performance Review</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/no-phone-celebrities/">The Podcast Seat We&rsquo;re All Fighting For</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/nancy-guthrie-missing/">Savannah Guthrie's mum was kidnapped from her home. Then came the letters no daughter could prepare for.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/nara-smith-savannah-guthrie/">MIA FREEDMAN: The impossible thing we ask Nara, Savannah and Catherine to do.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/ariana-grande-thin/">HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: A tiny woman is at the centre of an enormous conversation.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/body-image-2026/">We need to talk about Ariana Grande.</a></li>
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Ariana Retreats & Are Your Friends Anchors Or Sails?

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