It’s Friday, and it’s a news-free zone. Breathe out, friends, and let’s kick off with a splash of skincare nepotism — Gwyneth Paltrow’s daughter Apple is sharing how Mum asked all her “Goopy” friends to help fix her teenage acne and honestly, haven’t we all? 

Also, iconic magazine editor Anna Wintour just sat down with her successor, Vogue Content Director Chloe Malle, and served up a deeply awkward masterclass in 'Boomer vs. Millennial' work ethic clash. So, who wants to pay everyone 30 per cent more? 

Is it ever okay to mention your food intolerance on a first date? What about your ex? What about your mother? And who the hell does pay, in 2026? The New York Times has dropped a new set of 'Dating Rules'. Some are genius, some are unhinged, and yes, we have thoughts. 

And finally, we tackle a domestic mystery as old as time: Are you a box-flattener or are you... normal?

Plus, recommendations. Jessie Stephens has a very helpful robot for you. Clare Stephens wants to help you unlock creativity (it's a new year, fire horses) and Holly Wainwright wants to show you her new pants. 

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Recommendations

Clare recommendsThe Writer's Studiowhich offerscourses for aspiring writers. 

Holly recommends the jersey barrel leg pants from Uniqlo 

In a turn of events, Jessie is recommending Chat GPT (we're shocked too) for anybody who needs some design help when moving house. 

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Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is the first British royal arrested in almost 400 years. Here's everything we know.
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Only Andrew, just Sarah and a teenage 'nobody' who rewrote royal history.
'Margaret Qualley just shared her "dating rules," and I'm here to break every single one.'
Anna Wintour is fashion's most powerful woman. She is famously secretive about her love life.
Inside the extremely elite Le Bal des Débutantes, a Bridgerton ball for nepo babies.

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Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

It&rsquo;s Friday, and it&rsquo;s a news-free zone. Breathe out, friends, and let&rsquo;s kick off with a splash of skincare nepotism &mdash; Gwyneth Paltrow&rsquo;s daughter Apple is sharing how Mum asked all her &ldquo;Goopy&rdquo; friends to help fix her teenage acne and honestly, haven&rsquo;t we all?&nbsp;
Also, iconic magazine editor Anna Wintour just sat down with her successor, Vogue Content Director Chloe Malle, and served up a deeply awkward masterclass in 'Boomer vs. Millennial' work ethic clash. So, who wants to pay everyone 30 per cent more?&nbsp;
Is it ever okay to mention your food intolerance on a first date? What about your ex? What about your mother? And who the hell does pay, in 2026? The&nbsp;New York Times has dropped a new set of 'Dating Rules'. Some are genius, some are unhinged, and yes, we have thoughts.&nbsp;
And finally, we tackle a domestic mystery as old as time: Are you a box-flattener or are you... normal?
Plus, recommendations. Jessie Stephens has a very helpful robot for you. Clare Stephens wants to help you unlock creativity (it's a new year, fire horses) and Holly Wainwright wants to show you her new pants.&nbsp;
SUBSCRIBE here: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
Recommendations
Clare recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4aIlYkD">The Writer's Studio</a> which offers courses for aspiring writers.&nbsp;
Holly recommends the <a href="https://fave.co/4r5cN3X">jersey barrel leg pants</a> from Uniqlo&nbsp;
In a turn of events, Jessie is recommending <a href="https://chatgpt.com/?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=paid_search&amp;utm_campaign=GOOG_C_SEM_GBR_Core_CHT_BAU_ACQ_PER_MIX_ALL_APAC_AU_EN_021425&amp;c_id=22239765488&amp;c_agid=176457982953&amp;c_crid=790574195882&amp;c_kwid={keywordid}&amp;c_ims=&amp;c_pms=9071828&amp;c_nw=g&amp;c_dvc=c&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=22239765488&amp;gbraid=0AAAAA-I0E5cCHBmb9PAmuo-oLMnTxuqEl&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAhtvMBhDBARIsAL26pjGaJ_RQNVwIbJ9bMtYuG-3orYFKaFrmTg4BH-gIqlOrb-dg9WAH13caAm8XEALw_wcB">Chat GPT</a> (we're shocked too) for anybody who needs some design help when moving house.&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-angelina-jolie-netflix-couture/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Angelina Jolie &amp; The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/mafs-sexual-chemistry/">MAFS &amp; The Specific Cruelty of the &lsquo;Sexual Chemistry&rsquo; Question</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/margot-robbie-jacob-elordi-wuthering-heights-review/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/margot-robbie-jacob-elordi-wuthering-heights-controversy/">Wuthering Heights &amp; the &lsquo;Bad Man&rsquo; Controversy</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/finger-princess-wuthering-heights/">"Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-twin-intuition-jessie-clare-stephens/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/confessing-an-affair/">An Affair Confession Live On Air</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/which-generation-is-best-at-parenting/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard!</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/prince-andrew-virginia-guiffre/">HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Only Andrew, just Sarah and a teenage 'nobody' who rewrote royal history.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/margaret-qualley-dating-advice/">'Margaret Qualley just shared her "dating rules," and I'm here to break every single one.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/anna-wintour-relationships/">Anna Wintour is fashion's most powerful woman. She is famously secretive about her love life.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/what-is-le-bal-des-debutantes/">Inside the extremely elite Le Bal des D&eacute;butantes, a Bridgerton ball for nepo babies.</a></li>
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CREDITS:
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Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where smart women come for good conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud is hosted by journalists and authors Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. It's your daily dose of conversation that's like catching up with your best, funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat, offering conversation at its most addictive.

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The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section

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