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Andy Lee and Bec Harding were together 12 years before they married in New York on the weekend, and Holly Wainwright isn&rsquo;t mad, she&rsquo;s just disappointed.
Plus, a man online says it&rsquo;s rude NOT to ask to stay at a friend&rsquo;s place when you&rsquo;re in their city. Holly, Jessie and Amelia draw up the houseguest rules, right down to who strips the bed.
Also, Amelia unpacks what&rsquo;s really happening on the streets of France, and how Pope Leo handled a phone call from Vladimir Putin three days after surgery.
And, three cookbooks made the list of Australia&rsquo;s top 100 books. Jessie wants to know if a cookbook even counts, and what to make of the influencers who say they've never read a book.
We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you&rsquo;ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now.<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=b2c-furniture"> Subscribe today</a>. T&amp;Cs apply.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/perimeopause-special-episode/">Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/how-to-be-rude-in-2026/">The New Ways To Be Rude &amp; &ldquo;How Much Do You Earn?&rdquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/susan-dell-internet-pile-on?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Why Is The Internet Being Unspeakably Cruel To One Woman This Week?</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/shane-gillis-snl-joke/">There's Wh*res In This Gym &amp; Harry&rsquo;s Masterclass On Grief</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/christa-pike-execution-explained/">A Botched Execution &amp; The In-Law Photo Dilemma</a></li>
<li>Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/zo-foster-blakes-friendship-rules/">Zo&euml; Foster Blake&rsquo;s 'FIBI' Rule Will Change Your Friendships &amp; How To Buy Clothes That Fit You</a></li>
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Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
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What to read:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/andy-lee-rebecca-harding-wedding/">We have our first look at Andy Lee and Rebecca Harding's wedding photos.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/hamish-and-andy-friendship/">Some see Andy Lee as 'the guy who laughs at the funny guy'. This is his response.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/rules-of-etiquette-australia/">'A modern etiquette guide is going viral. But Australians? All you need are these 19 rules.'</a></li>
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Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?”

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