On July 3, a sea of people gathered at the Sarasota Fairgrounds in Florida, baking for hours in 100-degree heat before standing in a downpour. But they didn’t care. They were there for Donald J. Trump. For this podcast, Anna explains why, whether you love him or hate him, Trump is still a dominant force who will shape the political landscape for 2024. Bottom line: He’s not going anywhere, and it’s time to accept that. Plus, Anna has a can’t-miss conversation with Camryn Kinsey, a reporter for One America News Network and a former White House staffer for President Trump, on Trump’s appeal, what it was like working for him, the state of the media today, and much more.