Lowy Institute ArchiveLowy Institute Nonresident Fellow Stephen Grenville speaks to Dr M Chatib Basri (former Indonesian finance minister and Thee Kian Wie distinguished visiting professor at the Australian National University), on the role of economics in Indonesian politics over the years, being humbled by political reality, where Jokowi is turning to for advice on economics, how the international economy is affecting Indonesia, and the problems with the nation's budget.
