Content warning: this episode contains discussion of child sex abuse and pedophilia.




What can survivors of abuse take away from the experiences of Nabokov's Dolores Haze? It depends on who you talk to. This week, Jamie examines the popular psychologies of Freud and Kinsey that Dolly would have been surrounded by, and with two prominent psychologists -- Lucia Williams and Michael Lamb -- about the value Dolores's story has to students of psychology today. We also speak with Sarah Weinman about "The Real Lolita," survivors Alisson Wood ("Being Lolita") and Bindu Bansinath ("How Lolita Freed Me From My Own Humbert") about the role of Lolita in their own processing and healing from childhood trauma. This is a tough one. Thanks for being here.




If you are seeking resources about sexual assault: https://www.rainn.org/

If you are seeking resources about MAPs: https://www.b4uact.org/

Join our Discord: https://discord.com/invite/TrXc6BkfpN

DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE:

"Casting Aspersions" by Tashmica Torok: https://www.lovewithaccountability.com/lovewithaccountability-forum/2016/10/21/casting-aspersions-by-tashmica-torok

'How Lolita Freed Me From My Own Humbert' by Bindu Bansinath: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/style/modern-love-how-lolita-freed-me-from-my-own-humbert.html

Being Lolita by Alisson Wood: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250217219

The Real Lolita by Sarah Weinman: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-real-lolita-sarah-weinman

Still Intrigued with Lolita: Nabokov's Visionary Work on Childhood Abuse by Lucia Williams: https://thenabokovian.org/sites/default/files/2018-06/NABOKV-L-0027757___Williams_2016_StillIntriguedWithLol_Lolita.pdf

The Mann Act and Boxer Jack Johnson: https://www.history.com/news/white-slave-mann-act-jack-johnson-pardon

Infantile bisexuality and the 'complete oedipal complex': Freudian views on heterosexuality and homosexuality: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22014366/

Freud and LGBTQIA+ Issues: A 2020 Analysis: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psychoanalysis-unplugged/202005/was-freud-gay-friendly

Anna Freud: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Anna-Freud

Freud and the Seduction Theory by Jeffrey Masson: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1984/02/freud-and-the-seduction-theory/376313/

The Enduring, Pernicious Whiteness of True Crime by Elon Green: https://theappeal.org/whiteness-of-true-crime/

Alfred Kinsey: Liberator or Pervert? by Caleb Crain: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/movies/alfred-kinsey-liberator-or-pervert.html

Karen Horney and womb envy: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Karen-Horney#ref669884

Race and Racism in Psychoanalytic Thought: The Ghosts in Our Nursery by Beverly Stoute: https://apsa.org/apsaa-publications/vol51no1-TOC/html/vol51no1_08.xhtml

Conversations on Psychoanalysis and Race: Beverly J. Stoute: https://apsa.org/apsaa-publications/vol50no3-TOC/html/vol50no3_03.xhtml

Sokhna Fall on Nabokov's Lolita: http://stopauxviolences.blogspot.com/2010/11/article-de-sokhna-fall-sur-lolita-de.html

Lolita in the Afterlife (essay collection coming in 2021): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lolita-in-the-afterlife-jenny-minton-quigley/1137210905

Reading Lolita in Tehran by Azar Nafisi: https://azarnafisi.com/book/reading-lolita-in-tehran/

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Content warning: this episode contains discussion of child sex abuse and pedophilia. What can survivors of abuse take away from the experiences of Nabokov's Dolores Haze? It depends on who you talk to. This week, Jamie examines the popular psychologies of Freud and Kinsey that Dolly would have been surrounded by, and with two prominent psychologists -- Lucia Williams and Michael Lamb -- about the value Dolores's story has to students of psychology today. We also speak with Sarah Weinman about "The Real Lolita," survivors Alisson Wood ("Being Lolita") and Bindu Bansinath ("How Lolita Freed Me From My Own Humbert") about the role of Lolita in their own processing and healing from childhood trauma. This is a tough one. Thanks for being here. If you are seeking resources about sexual assault: <a href="https://www.rainn.org/">https://www.rainn.org/</a>If you are seeking resources about MAPs:<a href="%20https://www.b4uact.org/"> https://www.b4uact.org/</a>Join our Discord: <a href="https://discord.com/invite/TrXc6BkfpN">https://discord.com/invite/TrXc6BkfpN</a>DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE:"Casting Aspersions" by Tashmica Torok: <a href="https://www.lovewithaccountability.com/lovewithaccountability-forum/2016/10/21/casting-aspersions-by-tashmica-torok">https://www.lovewithaccountability.com/lovewithaccountability-forum/2016/10/21/casting-aspersions-by-tashmica-torok</a>'How Lolita Freed Me From My Own Humbert' by Bindu Bansinath: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/style/modern-love-how-lolita-freed-me-from-my-own-humbert.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/style/modern-love-how-lolita-freed-me-from-my-own-humbert.html</a>Being Lolita by Alisson Wood: <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250217219">https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250217219</a>The Real Lolita by Sarah Weinman: <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-real-lolita-sarah-weinman">https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-real-lolita-sarah-weinman</a>Still Intrigued with Lolita: Nabokov's Visionary Work on Childhood Abuse by Lucia Williams: <a href="https://thenabokovian.org/sites/default/files/2018-06/NABOKV-L-0027757___Williams_2016_StillIntriguedWithLol_Lolita.pdf">https://thenabokovian.org/sites/default/files/2018-06/NABOKV-L-0027757___Williams_2016_StillIntriguedWithLol_Lolita.pdf</a>The Mann Act and Boxer Jack Johnson: <a href="https://www.history.com/news/white-slave-mann-act-jack-johnson-pardon">https://www.history.com/news/white-slave-mann-act-jack-johnson-pardon</a>Infantile bisexuality and the 'complete oedipal complex': Freudian views on heterosexuality and homosexuality: <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22014366/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22014366/</a>Freud and LGBTQIA+ Issues: A 2020 Analysis: <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psychoanalysis-unplugged/202005/was-freud-gay-friendly">https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psychoanalysis-unplugged/202005/was-freud-gay-friendly</a>Anna Freud: <a href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Anna-Freud">https://www.britannica.com/biography/Anna-Freud</a>Freud and the Seduction Theory by Jeffrey Masson:<a href="%20https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1984/02/freud-and-the-seduction-theory/376313/"> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1984/02/freud-and-the-seduction-theory/376313/</a>The Enduring, Pernicious Whiteness of True Crime by Elon Green: <a href="https://theappeal.org/whiteness-of-true-crime/">https://theappeal.org/whiteness-of-true-crime/</a>Alfred Kinsey: Liberator or Pervert? by Caleb Crain: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/movies/alfred-kinsey-liberator-or-pervert.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/movies/alfred-kinsey-liberator-or-pervert.html</a>Karen Horney and womb envy:<a href="%20https://www.britannica.com/biography/Karen-Horney#ref669884"> https://www.britannica.com/biography/Karen-Horney#ref669884</a>Race and Racism in Psychoanalytic Thought: The Ghosts in Our Nursery by Beverly Stoute: <a href="https://apsa.org/apsaa-publications/vol51no1-TOC/html/vol51no1_08.xhtml">https://apsa.org/apsaa-publications/vol51no1-TOC/html/vol51no1_08.xhtml</a>Conversations on Psychoanalysis and Race: Beverly J. Stoute: <a href="https://apsa.org/apsaa-publications/vol50no3-TOC/html/vol50no3_03.xhtml">https://apsa.org/apsaa-publications/vol50no3-TOC/html/vol50no3_03.xhtml</a>Sokhna Fall on Nabokov's Lolita: <a href="http://stopauxviolences.blogspot.com/2010/11/article-de-sokhna-fall-sur-lolita-de.html">http://stopauxviolences.blogspot.com/2010/11/article-de-sokhna-fall-sur-lolita-de.html</a>Lolita in the Afterlife (essay collection coming in 2021): <a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lolita-in-the-afterlife-jenny-minton-quigley/1137210905">https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/lolita-in-the-afterlife-jenny-minton-quigley/1137210905</a>Reading Lolita in Tehran by Azar Nafisi: <a href="https://azarnafisi.com/book/reading-lolita-in-tehran/">https://azarnafisi.com/book/reading-lolita-in-tehran/</a> Learn more about your ad-choices at <a href="https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com">https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com</a>

Who is Lolita? The Nabokov literary classic has sparked infinite discussion in the 65 years since its release, but the cultural memory the book has left behind lives more in romance and fashion aesthetics than a cautionary tale about a deceptive predator and his young prey. Jamie Loftus wants to know how we got here, and this series traces Lolita -- the person, Dolores Haze -- from her literary origin to current status as a doomed icon.

Lolita Podcast

4: Dolores, Psychology, and Survivors

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