This episode was recorded on Cama ragle Land. Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life on Cut.

This episode was recorded on Cama ragle Land. Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life on Cut.

I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and this is the pickup show. If this is the first episode of Life on Cut that you're listening to, this is actually our radio show, our national radio show that airs across the country every day of the.

I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and this is the pickup show. If this is the first episode of Life on Cut that you're listening to, this is actually our radio show, our national radio show that airs across the country every day of the.

Week, and we package up all the best bits here for you.

Week, and we package up all the best bits here for you.

To listen to.

To listen to.

I had a great week, you did?

I had a great week, you did?

It was very fun?

It was very fun?

Yes, you do?

Yes, you do?

I mean I got married, But that's not why. I meant some weeks on radio or funnier than others. Like, sometimes the world gives you the most amazing content, sometimes it doesn't. But this was a good week.

I mean I got married, But that's not why. I meant some weeks on radio or funnier than others. Like, sometimes the world gives you the most amazing content, sometimes it doesn't. But this was a good week.

I mean, we had some pretty sentimental and serious stuff. Also, we had an ask gun cut this week as well. Her name was Gabrielle. We've included it in this show. It's probably the most serious live askun cut we've had. She's found out that her husband is cheating on her and that was do you know what briot?

I mean, we had some pretty sentimental and serious stuff. Also, we had an ask gun cut this week as well. Her name was Gabrielle. We've included it in this show. It's probably the most serious live askun cut we've had. She's found out that her husband is cheating on her and that was do you know what briot?

Like?

Like?

For all the askun cuts that we normally do that don't usually happen in real time. You know, people, if you listen to the pod. A lot you would ask on Cut people right in we answer with the details that we have, But this was a very different one because Gabrielle called and we kind of had to unpack it live with her, and you want to give the type of advice that you would give to your best friend. But I really hope that she listens to that and she does.

For all the askun cuts that we normally do that don't usually happen in real time. You know, people, if you listen to the pod. A lot you would ask on Cut people right in we answer with the details that we have, But this was a very different one because Gabrielle called and we kind of had to unpack it live with her, and you want to give the type of advice that you would give to your best friend. But I really hope that she listens to that and she does.

Something about it. It was a hard one because she's living it now and it's complicated. She's been with in for like twenty thirty years, they've.

Something about it. It was a hard one because she's living it now and it's complicated. She's been with in for like twenty thirty years, they've.

Got kids, got kids.

Got kids, got kids.

Yeah, it's and you know, I was trying to be probably more diplomatic than I wanted to be in all honesty, but you have to remember it's a real person with a real situation, going through real things.

Yeah, it's and you know, I was trying to be probably more diplomatic than I wanted to be in all honesty, but you have to remember it's a real person with a real situation, going through real things.

Yeah, and it's also on live radio, so like the last thing you want to do is tell someone to leave their husband on live radio and really grow hard on them when they're clearly in a very emotionally difficult time. Yeah, but that is all coming up. Also, if any of you guys would like us to answer your ask gun Cut live on radio, Like, if you have something, it can be anything from trivial to something that's to do with your friendship to something whatever, whatever it is, you actually can remain anonymous.

Yeah, and it's also on live radio, so like the last thing you want to do is tell someone to leave their husband on live radio and really grow hard on them when they're clearly in a very emotionally difficult time. Yeah, but that is all coming up. Also, if any of you guys would like us to answer your ask gun Cut live on radio, Like, if you have something, it can be anything from trivial to something that's to do with your friendship to something whatever, whatever it is, you actually can remain anonymous.

Still, it'll be your voice.

Still, it'll be your voice.

Please write into either us at Life on cart just say that you're happy to do radio, or you can write to the pickup directly who has their own Instagram as well, and we can get you on the radio show and we can answer your questions live. But this week, on this week's show, I told a story about Marley, and I feel like any parent will relate to this. Marley said something that was innocent but totally inappropriate in context. And it's those moments where your kid says an inside thought that they just shouldn't say, and you want the whole world to swallow.

Please write into either us at Life on cart just say that you're happy to do radio, or you can write to the pickup directly who has their own Instagram as well, and we can get you on the radio show and we can answer your questions live. But this week, on this week's show, I told a story about Marley, and I feel like any parent will relate to this. Marley said something that was innocent but totally inappropriate in context. And it's those moments where your kid says an inside thought that they just shouldn't say, and you want the whole world to swallow.

You up whole.

You up whole.

I feel like it's to ride a passage though, Like I don't know anyone who has a kid who hasn't done that, Like kid hasn't embarrassed them or that's how they learn. You know, they don't know what's right or wrong, and just sometimes it's more awkward than others.

I feel like it's to ride a passage though, Like I don't know anyone who has a kid who hasn't done that, Like kid hasn't embarrassed them or that's how they learn. You know, they don't know what's right or wrong, and just sometimes it's more awkward than others.

It's also like sometimes kids are just so honest, Like there was this one person who wrote in on oh did a little call out box and this one person wrote in and so like they'll go on a camping trip. The mum had mentioned she didn't want the mother in law to come on this camping trip. The mother in law came over this one day and her daughter was like, I want you to come on the camping trip. She doesn't want you to come, and that was why she made up at this full elaborate lie about why she couldn't come. The kidsens straight out at it us, Yeah you sucked, Nana, like they just yeah, that's so cook.

It's also like sometimes kids are just so honest, Like there was this one person who wrote in on oh did a little call out box and this one person wrote in and so like they'll go on a camping trip. The mum had mentioned she didn't want the mother in law to come on this camping trip. The mother in law came over this one day and her daughter was like, I want you to come on the camping trip. She doesn't want you to come, and that was why she made up at this full elaborate lie about why she couldn't come. The kidsens straight out at it us, Yeah you sucked, Nana, like they just yeah, that's so cook.

Kids are the worst.

Kids are the worst.

So I actually did a call out this week about a story as well, and the responses I got were I shouldn't say brilliant and funny, but they were brilliant and funny. We can only laugh about them because it's in hindsight. But it was like, what's the most unhinged way you've been broken up with or you found out your partner had moved on? And I say that because we didn't want normal breakups. It's off the back of Eric Dane, who's like a famous actor. He was mixed seemy. He was in euphoria, but he his girlfriend found out that they were no longer together in a really unusual way. So it got us. We unpack it but it got us thinking, how did you guys get broken up with One person reading and said they got home like they lived on a property and there was a padlock that had been put on the gate at the start of the property that said do not enter marriage over.

So I actually did a call out this week about a story as well, and the responses I got were I shouldn't say brilliant and funny, but they were brilliant and funny. We can only laugh about them because it's in hindsight. But it was like, what's the most unhinged way you've been broken up with or you found out your partner had moved on? And I say that because we didn't want normal breakups. It's off the back of Eric Dane, who's like a famous actor. He was mixed seemy. He was in euphoria, but he his girlfriend found out that they were no longer together in a really unusual way. So it got us. We unpack it but it got us thinking, how did you guys get broken up with One person reading and said they got home like they lived on a property and there was a padlock that had been put on the gate at the start of the property that said do not enter marriage over.

You can't do that when it's like my last.

You can't do that when it's like my last.

To be clear, I'm laughing from shock.

To be clear, I'm laughing from shock.

It's no laughing at you.

It's no laughing at you.

That's not it's not funny.

That's not it's not funny.

But I can't believe people do this.

But I can't believe people do this.

I would say that if you were like in a situation where like you find out you've been cheated or something like that, like getting the locks changed, probably isn't as uncommon as what we might think it is, Like that's when you get those big retaliations. Anyway, guys, we unpack it all. I haven't listen to the show.

I would say that if you were like in a situation where like you find out you've been cheated or something like that, like getting the locks changed, probably isn't as uncommon as what we might think it is, Like that's when you get those big retaliations. Anyway, guys, we unpack it all. I haven't listen to the show.

Hey, Laura, question, if you were to go and see like one of your favorite artists, but they said you weren't allowed to bring your phone, how would you feel? Would it bother you? Would it put you off going? How are they going to police it?

Hey, Laura, question, if you were to go and see like one of your favorite artists, but they said you weren't allowed to bring your phone, how would you feel? Would it bother you? Would it put you off going? How are they going to police it?

Is my question?

Is my question?

Okay, well I have that answer. So this is actually happening at the moment. Sabrina Carpenter has come out. She went to a concert herself in Las Vegas to see Silk Sonics, and part of that gig was the fact that you weren't allowed to take phones, so you had to put your phone away. It was like a no phone gig. She said, she's never had a better experience at a concert. She was loving it. Everyone was dancing, engaging. That was like they were back in the seventies. And she's saying, well, maybe maybe I'm gonna consider no phones at one of my future concerts.

Okay, well I have that answer. So this is actually happening at the moment. Sabrina Carpenter has come out. She went to a concert herself in Las Vegas to see Silk Sonics, and part of that gig was the fact that you weren't allowed to take phones, so you had to put your phone away. It was like a no phone gig. She said, she's never had a better experience at a concert. She was loving it. Everyone was dancing, engaging. That was like they were back in the seventies. And she's saying, well, maybe maybe I'm gonna consider no phones at one of my future concerts.

I mean, I understand the debate for it. I get it, like it must be annoying being on stage and everyone's actually just watching you and not really watching you.

I mean, I understand the debate for it. I get it, like it must be annoying being on stage and everyone's actually just watching you and not really watching you.

They're watching you through a phone.

They're watching you through a phone.

But I also think that there's there's positives to it too. I mean, she's not any one of that thinks this, Like multiple people have come out in the past. John Mayer, Billie Eilish have a listened to Billy's comment.

But I also think that there's there's positives to it too. I mean, she's not any one of that thinks this, Like multiple people have come out in the past. John Mayer, Billie Eilish have a listened to Billy's comment.

All I ask is that we all try to live in the moment, and a lot of the time I'll say, put your phones away. But if you want a film, that's okay, just put it next to your face. You know what I'm saying, Look at me in my eyes, be here because this is the only moment we get to be in this moment, and like we're never going to be right here this second, on this day and this age ever again, this is the only only moment we ever get ever ever.

All I ask is that we all try to live in the moment, and a lot of the time I'll say, put your phones away. But if you want a film, that's okay, just put it next to your face. You know what I'm saying, Look at me in my eyes, be here because this is the only moment we get to be in this moment, and like we're never going to be right here this second, on this day and this age ever again, this is the only only moment we ever get ever ever.

I do like it.

I do like it.

Just before Laura you said, well, I could be doing a pooh, and Lauria's like, I could be all the toilet doing a poo when it will be the last moment I get to do that.

Just before Laura you said, well, I could be doing a pooh, and Lauria's like, I could be all the toilet doing a poo when it will be the last moment I get to do that.

Okay.

Okay.

I love Billie Eilish, but that's one of those you have to be their moments to really feel the magnitude of it. Because when someone's like, ye's the only moment we're going to be here, like that can be said about every second of your life. You could you could apply that logic to sitting on the toilet doing a pooge, like we can't. Okay, I have multiple feelings about this, but I.

I love Billie Eilish, but that's one of those you have to be their moments to really feel the magnitude of it. Because when someone's like, ye's the only moment we're going to be here, like that can be said about every second of your life. You could you could apply that logic to sitting on the toilet doing a pooge, like we can't. Okay, I have multiple feelings about this, but I.

Give me one feeling.

Give me one feeling.

We don't have time for multiple uncertainty.

We don't have time for multiple uncertainty.

I think it's too hard to police. And my biggest issue with it is like it's okay to say, oh, look, you know, no phones or put your phones down, so then people like socially police each other. So if someone has their phone out, it's been like put your phone away. But I don't think that you could like stop people from bringing a phone into a venue for a massive concert. Imagine how long those lines would be.

I think it's too hard to police. And my biggest issue with it is like it's okay to say, oh, look, you know, no phones or put your phones down, so then people like socially police each other. So if someone has their phone out, it's been like put your phone away. But I don't think that you could like stop people from bringing a phone into a venue for a massive concert. Imagine how long those lines would be.

They're already too.

They're already too.

Long, Laura, there is something called a secure pouch. What's it called Grace. It's a Yonder p that's a Yonder pouch, and this is like a female feminine product, Yes, pouch. So they've got these pouches where I'm imagining it's a secure patch. They can only be like it's locked. It can only be opened in certain parts of the venue. So maybe it's like the bar, or it's the entrance or toilet or whatever it is. But I'm imagining people line up and when you're scanning your tickets, you get a Yonder pouch. They watch you lock your phone in it, and then everyone knows you can't open it until you go back to this area. So you've got your phone on you, but it's not allowed to be used. I don't know. I'm sort of like, I sort of think it's cool. I understand why artists would say, hey, guys, surprisingly we don't want to stare at your phone. Like eighty thousand phones just looking at us. We'd love to be engaging with you and seeing your reaction. Are you enjoying it? Like, are you vibing it being the moment? But I also understand where we live in a day and age where that's also helping promote that artist totally.

Long, Laura, there is something called a secure pouch. What's it called Grace. It's a Yonder p that's a Yonder pouch, and this is like a female feminine product, Yes, pouch. So they've got these pouches where I'm imagining it's a secure patch. They can only be like it's locked. It can only be opened in certain parts of the venue. So maybe it's like the bar, or it's the entrance or toilet or whatever it is. But I'm imagining people line up and when you're scanning your tickets, you get a Yonder pouch. They watch you lock your phone in it, and then everyone knows you can't open it until you go back to this area. So you've got your phone on you, but it's not allowed to be used. I don't know. I'm sort of like, I sort of think it's cool. I understand why artists would say, hey, guys, surprisingly we don't want to stare at your phone. Like eighty thousand phones just looking at us. We'd love to be engaging with you and seeing your reaction. Are you enjoying it? Like, are you vibing it being the moment? But I also understand where we live in a day and age where that's also helping promote that artist totally.

And I think like you've got to be in a pretty privileged position to say, oh, I don't need the promotion of people and their instagrams.

And I think like you've got to be in a pretty privileged position to say, oh, I don't need the promotion of people and their instagrams.

Like Sabrina Carpenter can say that, Yeah.

Like Sabrina Carpenter can say that, Yeah.

Like most artists need their audience sharing it and like you know, promoting it across socials and all that sks of stuff to be able to sell out venues or to get more eyes on the products that they're create.

Like most artists need their audience sharing it and like you know, promoting it across socials and all that sks of stuff to be able to sell out venues or to get more eyes on the products that they're create.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean, I remember this is not a new debate. I remember it was very very obsessed with John Mayer back in about twenty thirteen, and he came out saying that constitutor is different now. He's like, I don't feel as though people are enjoying them when they're at my concerts. And then I go on social media to see how many people have shared it and what they've said about it to actually get a gauge because people are watching me perform through a phone.

I mean, I remember this is not a new debate. I remember it was very very obsessed with John Mayer back in about twenty thirteen, and he came out saying that constitutor is different now. He's like, I don't feel as though people are enjoying them when they're at my concerts. And then I go on social media to see how many people have shared it and what they've said about it to actually get a gauge because people are watching me perform through a phone.

Well, he actually said, funnily enough, I've got his quote here.

Well, he actually said, funnily enough, I've got his quote here.

Thanks.

Thanks.

People aren't going crazy, And I think to myself, I'm not playing a very good show, am I? And then I look out into the audience and they are going crazy, but not for me. They're applauding into the phone. So that sends back to like, it must feel really hard. Imagine how insecure they are. It's like the John Mayer who was huge, and he's still on stage being like, oh god, these guys aren't enjoying this, Like no one's laughing, clapping, cheering, celebrating. They're just looking into their screen.

People aren't going crazy, And I think to myself, I'm not playing a very good show, am I? And then I look out into the audience and they are going crazy, but not for me. They're applauding into the phone. So that sends back to like, it must feel really hard. Imagine how insecure they are. It's like the John Mayer who was huge, and he's still on stage being like, oh god, these guys aren't enjoying this, Like no one's laughing, clapping, cheering, celebrating. They're just looking into their screen.

Yeah, but the question is who's having a bad time? Like is the audience still having a good time or is it.

Yeah, but the question is who's having a bad time? Like is the audience still having a good time or is it.

Just because of the person on That's what he doesn't know.

Just because of the person on That's what he doesn't know.

Okay, but there is nothing worse than if you're in the standing area and some idiot and if you has their phone out and you can't see over it and you're watching the person on stage through their phone, because that's all you can see.

Okay, but there is nothing worse than if you're in the standing area and some idiot and if you has their phone out and you can't see over it and you're watching the person on stage through their phone, because that's all you can see.

That's why I see it.

That's why I see it.

It is better Yep, YONDI pouch here we come now.

It is better Yep, YONDI pouch here we come now.

I want to know for all the parents out there give us a call. We are asking what is the inappropriate thing that your kids said? They said it out loud, other people heard it, and you just wish they hadn't because you know, in how that old adage like kids will say the dundest things. Sometimes it's cute and sometimes you're just like, wow, I've really fail as a parent.

I want to know for all the parents out there give us a call. We are asking what is the inappropriate thing that your kids said? They said it out loud, other people heard it, and you just wish they hadn't because you know, in how that old adage like kids will say the dundest things. Sometimes it's cute and sometimes you're just like, wow, I've really fail as a parent.

I think it's a.

I think it's a.

Rite, a passage. I think that you can't escape it as a parent. Like at some stage, every child has going to embarrass you with something they say.

Rite, a passage. I think that you can't escape it as a parent. Like at some stage, every child has going to embarrass you with something they say.

Well, my daughter, Marley May, she just turned six, she had a birthday last week, and I you know, six is kind of at that age where you start to come out of it. They've got a little bit more social awareness. They know right from wrong, a little bit more. I would expect these things from my four year old, but not from my six year old.

Well, my daughter, Marley May, she just turned six, she had a birthday last week, and I you know, six is kind of at that age where you start to come out of it. They've got a little bit more social awareness. They know right from wrong, a little bit more. I would expect these things from my four year old, but not from my six year old.

So no, I'm sorry. Six year olds don't get a pass They know better.

So no, I'm sorry. Six year olds don't get a pass They know better.

Do they?

Do they?

She's a kindie. The thing is is she does know better. And some some times they don't say things meaning for it to be super offensive, but they just say a matter of fact thing. It's a statement they've observed something they don't understand that maybe that might hurt someone's feeling, and.

She's a kindie. The thing is is she does know better. And some some times they don't say things meaning for it to be super offensive, but they just say a matter of fact thing. It's a statement they've observed something they don't understand that maybe that might hurt someone's feeling, and.

They just say it.

They just say it.

Also, I say, they know better. I don't even know what she said yet, so let me judge. I'll judge her after the fact.

Also, I say, they know better. I don't even know what she said yet, so let me judge. I'll judge her after the fact.

All right, well, you guys can all judge her now. So our really really good family friend. She also works for us at Life on Cut. She's been in my life.

All right, well, you guys can all judge her now. So our really really good family friend. She also works for us at Life on Cut. She's been in my life.

Her name is Nest.

Her name is Nest.

She's been in my life like the last to twelve years, and she is a huge dog lover.

She's been in my life like the last to twelve years, and she is a huge dog lover.

And she's actually the reason why I.

And she's actually the reason why I.

Ended up adopting my dog Buster, because she was fostering him at the time. Now, her and her wife, they were home a beautiful dog named Juni, and Juni has been a huge part of their family. And you know, they've been through big transitions, They've had little kids themselves, and you know, Junie's been there whilst their family has grown. And recently she had an accident and they had to make the really hard decision of putting their dog down. And anyone who's been through that when their dog, when your dog is a family member, it is devastating, absolutely devastating.

Ended up adopting my dog Buster, because she was fostering him at the time. Now, her and her wife, they were home a beautiful dog named Juni, and Juni has been a huge part of their family. And you know, they've been through big transitions, They've had little kids themselves, and you know, Junie's been there whilst their family has grown. And recently she had an accident and they had to make the really hard decision of putting their dog down. And anyone who's been through that when their dog, when your dog is a family member, it is devastating, absolutely devastating.

Also because their dog was so young and it was unexpected.

Also because their dog was so young and it was unexpected.

Yeah, absolutely, and now look the other weekend, it was like a situation where they were having friends over. Anyone who was really close to Juni and our girls are.

Yeah, absolutely, and now look the other weekend, it was like a situation where they were having friends over. Anyone who was really close to Juni and our girls are.

It was the wake.

It was the wake.

Yeah, well no, it wasn't awake because it.

Yeah, well no, it wasn't awake because it.

Was a pre It was before that actually had Junie put down so everyone could say they're goodbyes, and Junia had this beautiful day and I sort of said, look, I don't know if my kids are at an age where this will go down.

Was a pre It was before that actually had Junie put down so everyone could say they're goodbyes, and Junia had this beautiful day and I sort of said, look, I don't know if my kids are at an age where this will go down.

Well, they're really turbo.

Well, they're really turbo.

I was like, everyone's quine, kind of solemn and having nice time, and she probably needs.

I was like, everyone's quine, kind of solemn and having nice time, and she probably needs.

A bit of calm. I was like, I don't think my.

A bit of calm. I was like, I don't think my.

Kids are right for this, and they were like, no, no, no, bring them along, and I was like, no, it's really I just don't think it's right anyway, So I didn't go on the day, and we went over for dinner a couple of days later, and we were there.

Kids are right for this, and they were like, no, no, no, bring them along, and I was like, no, it's really I just don't think it's right anyway, So I didn't go on the day, and we went over for dinner a couple of days later, and we were there.

Just you know, have a carug and.

Just you know, have a carug and.

Show our support, and Matt and I went over, brought the kids and we picked up dinner and we all had dinner together and it was a really lovely night. And of course on the drive over there, I had to explain to the girls what had happened and why Junie wasn't there anymore.

Show our support, and Matt and I went over, brought the kids and we picked up dinner and we all had dinner together and it was a really lovely night. And of course on the drive over there, I had to explain to the girls what had happened and why Junie wasn't there anymore.

And you could see mar Ali and Lola.

And you could see mar Ali and Lola.

Were processing and they've experienced death in our family, like their grandparents have passed away, and so they no one understand that that means that that personal thing is not here anymore.

Were processing and they've experienced death in our family, like their grandparents have passed away, and so they no one understand that that means that that personal thing is not here anymore.

And so we had a lovely night. I had a lovely dinner.

And so we had a lovely night. I had a lovely dinner.

But anyway, the next day sent a nice message to my friend and I was like, oh, you know, it was really nice to see you. I hope that you hope that you guys are feeling okay and she said, yeah, yeah, we were feeling great. That was until Marley pointed out one of the dog toys and said, why have you got that? Your dog's dead. You don't need that anymore, point blank, sent her in a text message to me and I was like, sorry, she did not, and she was like, hey, yeah she did. Actually, in fact, she pointed out several things that the dog had that were around the house and told us that.

But anyway, the next day sent a nice message to my friend and I was like, oh, you know, it was really nice to see you. I hope that you hope that you guys are feeling okay and she said, yeah, yeah, we were feeling great. That was until Marley pointed out one of the dog toys and said, why have you got that? Your dog's dead. You don't need that anymore, point blank, sent her in a text message to me and I was like, sorry, she did not, and she was like, hey, yeah she did. Actually, in fact, she pointed out several things that the dog had that were around the house and told us that.

It's not needed to be fair, it's not why have you got a dog bed?

It's not needed to be fair, it's not why have you got a dog bed?

Your dog's dead.

Your dog's dead.

But she didn't say it in front of me, or I would have corrected her. She said it behind my baby, you don't correct her because it's right.

But she didn't say it in front of me, or I would have corrected her. She said it behind my baby, you don't correct her because it's right.

What she said is right.

What she said is right.

Maybe she seems to understand that it was like more gentle way, it's wrong.

Maybe she seems to understand that it was like more gentle way, it's wrong.

That's the problem.

That's the problem.

It is true, like, yes, it's factual, but wrongly.

It is true, like, yes, it's factual, but wrongly.

So then I did feel like at six, it's pretty old. No, six is pretty mature.

So then I did feel like at six, it's pretty old. No, six is pretty mature.

Do you know what she was hangering for?

Do you know what she was hangering for?

Do you know what it was? And I figured it out. She wanted to she wanted to take the dog toy home.

Do you know what it was? And I figured it out. She wanted to she wanted to take the dog toy home.

She liked it, and she was like, you don't need that. Guess who does.

She liked it, and she was like, you don't need that. Guess who does.

I'll take it off I'll take it off your heads. Well, yeah, so not long ago, it's like two weeks ago. At my wedding. Yeah, Marley did something.

I'll take it off I'll take it off your heads. Well, yeah, so not long ago, it's like two weeks ago. At my wedding. Yeah, Marley did something.

Yes, my wife and I got to hang out with your lovely children, who are delightful.

Yes, my wife and I got to hang out with your lovely children, who are delightful.

Dear you dare they're not even here to defend themselves.

Dear you dare they're not even here to defend themselves.

And we were sitting there and Marley looks at my wife Diana and goes.

And we were sitting there and Marley looks at my wife Diana and goes.

She your grandma, And I was like.

She your grandma, And I was like.

No, this is my wife. We're married, and she was like, hmm, okay, is that it?

No, this is my wife. We're married, and she was like, hmm, okay, is that it?

That was it?

That was it?

Like we have six years between us.

Like we have six years between us.

It's not exactly, well, there's an age gap. Right there.

It's not exactly, well, there's an age gap. Right there.

Six years is a long time.

Six years is a long time.

She's only been alive for six years.

She's only been alive for six years.

The poor kid, it was that woman is as old. She's like a whole six years old.

The poor kid, it was that woman is as old. She's like a whole six years old.

It could be your mom, could be grandma grandma?

It could be your mom, could be grandma grandma?

Is that your grandmother's story?

Is that your grandmother's story?

Story?

Story?

And also how did Diana react to this? She told Molly that I was her daughter, so she really leant into it.

And also how did Diana react to this? She told Molly that I was her daughter, so she really leant into it.

I like that.

I like that.

You really just cause like some more confusion to try and fix that problem.

You really just cause like some more confusion to try and fix that problem.

We weren't even going to bring it up. But it was just too when you it was too much.

We weren't even going to bring it up. But it was just too when you it was too much.

Bless her. Oh my god. I hope my kids are not listening to this anyway. I hope they're at school. We got bad now, three.

Bless her. Oh my god. I hope my kids are not listening to this anyway. I hope they're at school. We got bad now, three.

O'clock, they're finished. They got picked up half.

O'clock, they're finished. They got picked up half.

An hour ago. What my kids get to school these days? Three o'clock, babe, it's got no idea.

An hour ago. What my kids get to school these days? Three o'clock, babe, it's got no idea.

Well, I'm sorry that we school, honey. We work on the pick up. That's when people are picking their children up from school.

Well, I'm sorry that we school, honey. We work on the pick up. That's when people are picking their children up from school.

That's the whole point.

That's the whole point.

I thought thirty All right, we got Beth on the line, Hi, Bed, what was the interappropriate thing your kids said?

I thought thirty All right, we got Beth on the line, Hi, Bed, what was the interappropriate thing your kids said?

So my daughter would have been maybe three and a half. I'm sitting on the toilet in all my glory. She wanders in, looks me dead in the eyes and says, mummy, why does your mom have a beard? And then I had to proceed to explain to her, honey, it's not a beard. Tell her all about it. And then I'm made sure to tell her wait till your older darling, your bum's gonna have a bed too, well.

So my daughter would have been maybe three and a half. I'm sitting on the toilet in all my glory. She wanders in, looks me dead in the eyes and says, mummy, why does your mom have a beard? And then I had to proceed to explain to her, honey, it's not a beard. Tell her all about it. And then I'm made sure to tell her wait till your older darling, your bum's gonna have a bed too, well.

You like, because I'm breaking down the stereotypes, and I'm like, you know.

You like, because I'm breaking down the stereotypes, and I'm like, you know.

Embracing women have air too. God, damn it, we're giving her a past. She's three. I'm allowing that one.

Embracing women have air too. God, damn it, we're giving her a past. She's three. I'm allowing that one.

Oh dear, all right, thanks that, Beth Kara. What did your kids say that you wish they hadn't?

Oh dear, all right, thanks that, Beth Kara. What did your kids say that you wish they hadn't?

So when I take my daughter into the public toilets after she's been and it's my turn, she'll say, very loudly, are you.

So when I take my daughter into the public toilets after she's been and it's my turn, she'll say, very loudly, are you.

Doing a pooh mum?

Doing a pooh mum?

Oh yeah yeah, I'm like, oh my god, it's so embarrassing.

Oh yeah yeah, I'm like, oh my god, it's so embarrassing.

It's worse when they start to describe the smell of it as well.

It's worse when they start to describe the smell of it as well.

Because you've kept them like logic, they'll do it in mine.

Because you've kept them like logic, they'll do it in mine.

Other thing is is like I'm doing a weei.

Other thing is is like I'm doing a weei.

But she still has to ask you, so loudly in front of everybody.

But she still has to ask you, so loudly in front of everybody.

How do you respond?

How do you respond?

How do you because you've got to have then have a conversation, and you know everyone in the store next door is having a giggle about it.

How do you because you've got to have then have a conversation, and you know everyone in the store next door is having a giggle about it.

You say, we don't talk.

You say, we don't talk.

Usually, I go, it's doing away.

Usually, I go, it's doing away.

Be you quiet, And then you hear the person next door giggling.

Be you quiet, And then you hear the person next door giggling.

I know, I know she's entertaining, that's for sure.

I know, I know she's entertaining, that's for sure.

Thanks car Amy. What did your kids say that you wish they hadn't?

Thanks car Amy. What did your kids say that you wish they hadn't?

Oh?

Oh?

Yeah, So my daughter, coming from a red eyed flight into Australia from Malaysia, decided to tell her customs officer that her dad had a big willie. Why don't know? We don't know. And it was more alarming for me because I was like, that's something I've never said, Like, where does she get that?

Yeah, So my daughter, coming from a red eyed flight into Australia from Malaysia, decided to tell her customs officer that her dad had a big willie. Why don't know? We don't know. And it was more alarming for me because I was like, that's something I've never said, Like, where does she get that?

How does she know what that is?

How does she know what that is?

The customs?

The customs?

Are you importing anything? Well, my dad's got a big willy.

Are you importing anything? Well, my dad's got a big willy.

My husband was stoked. You could imagine the customers officers that have very limited personality were started cracking up laughing. So she's now eleven and never lives.

My husband was stoked. You could imagine the customers officers that have very limited personality were started cracking up laughing. So she's now eleven and never lives.

It down for she at the time, did you say.

It down for she at the time, did you say.

She was two and a half.

She was two and a half.

Oh my god, that is absolutely gold.

Oh my god, that is absolutely gold.

But also you do question why does a two year old have any clue?

But also you do question why does a two year old have any clue?

And I could just I was like, this is what did she typicallyk I run around in our home telling my husband he's got to be willing all the time.

And I could just I was like, this is what did she typicallyk I run around in our home telling my husband he's got to be willing all the time.

You like, hey, if you guys want to use that on that TV show board of security that put me on your ads.

You like, hey, if you guys want to use that on that TV show board of security that put me on your ads.

That's okay. He thought it's the best thing ever.

That's okay. He thought it's the best thing ever.

So so that that's cold. But also like, this is not something that is unfamiliar to any parent. I feel like that this is just a rite of passage when it comes to parenting. You've just got to figure out how to navigate these situations the best you can.

So so that that's cold. But also like, this is not something that is unfamiliar to any parent. I feel like that this is just a rite of passage when it comes to parenting. You've just got to figure out how to navigate these situations the best you can.

Now, Laura, I want you to dig deep into your past. Have you ever been broken up with in like a really messed up, unhinged way, or did you break up.

Now, Laura, I want you to dig deep into your past. Have you ever been broken up with in like a really messed up, unhinged way, or did you break up.

With someone who No, because I dated a lot of men who cheated on me and stuff, and I just state so like they probably.

With someone who No, because I dated a lot of men who cheated on me and stuff, and I just state so like they probably.

Tried to break up.

Tried to break up.

They're like it's over. You're like, that's not.

They're like it's over. You're like, that's not.

Christ I prove it. I'm still here.

Christ I prove it. I'm still here.

Why am I in your bed there? Why? I mean you'll come.

Why am I in your bed there? Why? I mean you'll come.

I don't think I've been broken up within.

I don't think I've been broken up within.

I haven't broken up with it in an unhinged way. I've just stayed in unhinged relationships for a really long time.

I haven't broken up with it in an unhinged way. I've just stayed in unhinged relationships for a really long time.

All right, minor technicality, a little bit different. So Eric Dane, and before you ask you, that is because I know you won't know, Laura, But that's mc steamy from Gray's Anatomy explained it to me, the really hot doctor. And for like our younger listeners that have no idea what Grey's Anatomy or mxed Steamy is, he's the dad out of Euphoria. So everyone knows Euphoria.

All right, minor technicality, a little bit different. So Eric Dane, and before you ask you, that is because I know you won't know, Laura, But that's mc steamy from Gray's Anatomy explained it to me, the really hot doctor. And for like our younger listeners that have no idea what Grey's Anatomy or mxed Steamy is, he's the dad out of Euphoria. So everyone knows Euphoria.

Yeah, I do actually know who this guy is, so like, I appreciate that.

Yeah, I do actually know who this guy is, so like, I appreciate that.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, thank you.

So he there's this story going around at the at the moment, and I want to say allegedly. So Eric Dane has been dating allegedly his girlfriend Priya Jane. So Dane and Jane, that's how we're gonna call them. They were properly together, right, She was a huge part of his family. They spent the weekend together and then Eric Dane had to go to one of his own premiers, so she didn't go. He's gone to the premiere she's watching where she sees him photographed on the red carpet with a new woman, Janelle Shirtcliffe. So she's just like at home, sees her partner in photos and on the red carpet debuting a new relationship. Okay, I'm sorry, but if your partner is going to the premiere of their own show and you weren't invited, surely that's a red flag that they're not with you anymore. I mean I have questions. I do have questions because maybe he said no, Maybe he said, like, you know, partner's not invited, like it's a Christmas party, like they couldn't pay for pote.

So he there's this story going around at the at the moment, and I want to say allegedly. So Eric Dane has been dating allegedly his girlfriend Priya Jane. So Dane and Jane, that's how we're gonna call them. They were properly together, right, She was a huge part of his family. They spent the weekend together and then Eric Dane had to go to one of his own premiers, so she didn't go. He's gone to the premiere she's watching where she sees him photographed on the red carpet with a new woman, Janelle Shirtcliffe. So she's just like at home, sees her partner in photos and on the red carpet debuting a new relationship. Okay, I'm sorry, but if your partner is going to the premiere of their own show and you weren't invited, surely that's a red flag that they're not with you anymore. I mean I have questions. I do have questions because maybe he said no, Maybe he said, like, you know, partner's not invited, like it's a Christmas party, like they couldn't pay for pote.

I think this screams of he's tried to break up with her and she didn't take the clue, because like maybe he didn't do it as direct enough.

I think this screams of he's tried to break up with her and she didn't take the clue, because like maybe he didn't do it as direct enough.

But if it's weird.

But if it's weird.

That she's watching on his premiere and she had no clue and he just ropped up.

That she's watching on his premiere and she had no clue and he just ropped up.

I mean they have matching tattoos, which means it's pretty serious.

I mean they have matching tattoos, which means it's pretty serious.

But they imagine if she just got the tattoo to match his, he already had it, and she's like, he's like, this is had together.

But they imagine if she just got the tattoo to match his, he already had it, and she's like, he's like, this is had together.

We are Look.

We are Look.

I think if this is true, I mean, this man is fifty two years old.

I think if this is true, I mean, this man is fifty two years old.

To me, that just screams spineless, like if you can't break up.

To me, that just screams spineless, like if you can't break up.

With someone, and the way that you do it is by just like appearing with your new girlfriend.

With someone, and the way that you do it is by just like appearing with your new girlfriend.

Hope they get the hint.

Hope they get the hint.

That seems like a really really spineless way to manage you break up totally.

That seems like a really really spineless way to manage you break up totally.

She did say that he never actually broke up with her, but give us a call. It got me thinking, there must be some unhinged ways you've been broken up with. I remember I was seeing this guy, same kind of thing. I think, like where you were basically together without it officially being together. I don't know that was my situation. We were properly together, we weren't seeing other people. It's like we've met each others.

She did say that he never actually broke up with her, but give us a call. It got me thinking, there must be some unhinged ways you've been broken up with. I remember I was seeing this guy, same kind of thing. I think, like where you were basically together without it officially being together. I don't know that was my situation. We were properly together, we weren't seeing other people. It's like we've met each others.

Found how long had you been dating for on and off for three years? Okay it's a long time.

Found how long had you been dating for on and off for three years? Okay it's a long time.

Yeah, But it was never like one hundred percent exclusive, do you know what I mean. It's like the assumption was there we did everything together, but it wasn't anyway. It was at his thirtieth birthday and I had helped him with like planning of stuff. I was there taking photos of the night, his family there as a family friend event, and I'll never forget it. I was literally had the camera, his family's camera, and I was taking photos of everyone across the dance floor. And you thought you were his girlfriend at the time. Yeah, so at his birthday yep. And then across the dance floor, I looked over and he looked at me directly in the eye, locked eyes, and then made out with a girl in front of me. She did not she did, swear on my life.

Yeah, But it was never like one hundred percent exclusive, do you know what I mean. It's like the assumption was there we did everything together, but it wasn't anyway. It was at his thirtieth birthday and I had helped him with like planning of stuff. I was there taking photos of the night, his family there as a family friend event, and I'll never forget it. I was literally had the camera, his family's camera, and I was taking photos of everyone across the dance floor. And you thought you were his girlfriend at the time. Yeah, so at his birthday yep. And then across the dance floor, I looked over and he looked at me directly in the eye, locked eyes, and then made out with a girl in front of me. She did not she did, swear on my life.

I'm speechless. I am literally speechless. How old was this man?

I'm speechless. I am literally speechless. How old was this man?

He was his thirtieth If you looked sorry, I just had plagued because I honestly.

He was his thirtieth If you looked sorry, I just had plagued because I honestly.

I can't believe it.

I can't believe it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then I was like never, it was a big thing. I said, never call me again, don't contact me, and I unfollowed him on Instagram. It was a whole thing.

And then I was like never, it was a big thing. I said, never call me again, don't contact me, and I unfollowed him on Instagram. It was a whole thing.

I moved over.

I moved over.

Yeah, I moved overseas, brought a one way ticket, and then it went on for years. He followed me around. He was like, I made a mistake. I love you.

Yeah, I moved overseas, brought a one way ticket, and then it went on for years. He followed me around. He was like, I made a mistake. I love you.

Oh that's New York guy.

Oh that's New York guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh nah, you didn't tell me that part of that story.

Oh nah, you didn't tell me that part of that story.

That is absolutely shocked.

That is absolutely shocked.

I was like, guess this means we're not together. He was like mackiing on with someone else at his birthday.

I was like, guess this means we're not together. He was like mackiing on with someone else at his birthday.

I think like definitely, people have like found out from their friends. Like I have a girlfriend who found out that her partner was broke had broken up with her because he'd already told his mate that he was breaking up with her or had broken up, but it just hadn't filtered to her yet. So he his mate was like, oh, I'm so sorry about you, and Shamyer and it wasn't.

I think like definitely, people have like found out from their friends. Like I have a girlfriend who found out that her partner was broke had broken up with her because he'd already told his mate that he was breaking up with her or had broken up, but it just hadn't filtered to her yet. So he his mate was like, oh, I'm so sorry about you, and Shamyer and it wasn't.

His name's not Damien.

His name's not Damien.

He was like, I'm so sorry about you and Damien like, you know, I hope you're okay, and she was like, what are you talking about. That's how she found out through the friend anyway, shocking, but we do have I mean producer Grace here. She has a very own tail as to how she got hectically dumbed.

He was like, I'm so sorry about you and Damien like, you know, I hope you're okay, and she was like, what are you talking about. That's how she found out through the friend anyway, shocking, but we do have I mean producer Grace here. She has a very own tail as to how she got hectically dumbed.

Speaking of fishy, I was dating this guy when I was a teenager, like eighteen nineteen, so adult, so serious. Yeah, it was very serious. We're dating for like four months. I'd met his parents. I met mine.

Speaking of fishy, I was dating this guy when I was a teenager, like eighteen nineteen, so adult, so serious. Yeah, it was very serious. We're dating for like four months. I'd met his parents. I met mine.

Nineteen and four months deep and meeting the parents.

Nineteen and four months deep and meeting the parents.

That is serious, thank you. It is serious. Anyway, we decided to go on a date to the aquarium.

That is serious, thank you. It is serious. Anyway, we decided to go on a date to the aquarium.

That's not so serious.

That's not so serious.

He just didn't turn up and I never heard from him again.

He just didn't turn up and I never heard from him again.

Wait, you've never spoken to the guys.

Wait, you've never spoken to the guys.

And he messaged me drunk once like four years later for what, just being like, hey heard you got into.

And he messaged me drunk once like four years later for what, just being like, hey heard you got into.

Radio, say sorry about the aquarium. I know he never mentioned that. But one thing to go someone? Right, you haven't turned up for a date, but you can't just never see them again.

Radio, say sorry about the aquarium. I know he never mentioned that. But one thing to go someone? Right, you haven't turned up for a date, but you can't just never see them again.

Literally.

Literally.

I was replying being like, hey, are you alive? Did I do something?

I was replying being like, hey, are you alive? Did I do something?

What's going on?

What's going on?

And he just never But if you were dating for four months and you'd met his family, why didn't you go to his house?

And he just never But if you were dating for four months and you'd met his family, why didn't you go to his house?

Or you just like oka scaredy cat? So you just you just a message his dad.

Or you just like oka scaredy cat? So you just you just a message his dad.

You're just too good. You just get better and better. Hey, we've got Courtney on the lines.

You're just too good. You just get better and better. Hey, we've got Courtney on the lines.

So Courtney, will.

So Courtney, will.

We'll circle back to your grace. There's a lot to unpacking your story, Courtney. What was the unhinged way you got dumped?

We'll circle back to your grace. There's a lot to unpacking your story, Courtney. What was the unhinged way you got dumped?

I received a Facebook invite to his going away party announcing that he was moving into state.

I received a Facebook invite to his going away party announcing that he was moving into state.

Oh my goodness, and you obviously weren't moving with him.

Oh my goodness, and you obviously weren't moving with him.

Did you go to the party?

Did you go to the party?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Why was my revenge?

Why was my revenge?

Though?

Though?

You stole showed him Courtney, he couldn't see in the dark.

You stole showed him Courtney, he couldn't see in the dark.

This is the gift that keeps on giving. I mean, like there's other ways you could enact revenge. I feel like that is the that is the most g rated version of it. But I'm you sure showed him.

This is the gift that keeps on giving. I mean, like there's other ways you could enact revenge. I feel like that is the that is the most g rated version of it. But I'm you sure showed him.

Thanks Courtney, Emily.

Thanks Courtney, Emily.

What was the unhinged way you got dumped?

What was the unhinged way you got dumped?

My sister sent it to me on Instagram, but he'd already blocked me, and so she sent me the screenshot of him getting engaged. What yep?

My sister sent it to me on Instagram, but he'd already blocked me, and so she sent me the screenshot of him getting engaged. What yep?

And you what how long are you together for?

And you what how long are you together for?

We were together on and off for five years? Yeah, so quite on and off, so you know, just like two and a half years together. Then I had six months off and then came back together and yees, So I couldn't see the engagement and helpment he pullopped me. So my sister screenshot it and sent it to me.

We were together on and off for five years? Yeah, so quite on and off, so you know, just like two and a half years together. Then I had six months off and then came back together and yees, So I couldn't see the engagement and helpment he pullopped me. So my sister screenshot it and sent it to me.

Wait, so you okay, you were still dating?

Wait, so you okay, you were still dating?

What did you do? Did you contact the other girl?

What did you do? Did you contact the other girl?

Because clearly he was living a separate life at the same time.

Because clearly he was living a separate life at the same time.

I have sent her a message, so I've got to give credit where credits due. He planned it all out very well, so like we were texting and stuff, and then yeah, the day of the announcement, he'd blotched my phone number blocks me on everything, and yeah, I think just hoping to never run into me again.

I have sent her a message, so I've got to give credit where credits due. He planned it all out very well, so like we were texting and stuff, and then yeah, the day of the announcement, he'd blotched my phone number blocks me on everything, and yeah, I think just hoping to never run into me again.

We never have the other.

We never have the other.

I sent her a message and she never responded. I've seen that she's saying it and I know they're married.

I sent her a message and she never responded. I've seen that she's saying it and I know they're married.

Now, Wow, that is Oh god, I feel sorry for her.

Now, Wow, that is Oh god, I feel sorry for her.

That's a real shame that was to end on.

That's a real shame that was to end on.

Because she could have You don't know, she could have known, or she does know now Emily told her and she no.

Because she could have You don't know, she could have known, or she does know now Emily told her and she no.

I still feel like that's one of those situations. If that guy's that good at lying, he's probably.

I still feel like that's one of those situations. If that guy's that good at lying, he's probably.

Led his way out of that situation as well.

Led his way out of that situation as well.

You know you're gonna you're gonna believe you over some random chicky messages you're on Instagram.

You know you're gonna you're gonna believe you over some random chicky messages you're on Instagram.

That's not true. I was that exact person. I was marrying someone who's marrying someone else. Simultaneously, I reached out to her. We both dumped his ass. Yeah, we don't have trying to get into it. So like that bar Rah Buttle, Oh well, I'm praying for some some good love to come your way. Emily.

That's not true. I was that exact person. I was marrying someone who's marrying someone else. Simultaneously, I reached out to her. We both dumped his ass. Yeah, we don't have trying to get into it. So like that bar Rah Buttle, Oh well, I'm praying for some some good love to come your way. Emily.

Oh, thank you. I mean, I mean, I love myself.

Oh, thank you. I mean, I mean, I love myself.

It's really like that's all that matters. I'm so excited for our guests on the show today Laura Henshaw. She's one half of the Absolute Empire that is Kick, which she hosts alongside and has started alongside Steph Clear Smith. So we're talking like podcasting, fitness apps, they've got food, they've got so much in it. They're absolute juggernauts in the space. But we're not talking to Laura Henshaw about that today. We're talking to Laura Henshaw today because she has just announced she is in her second trimester of pregnancy. Now that might seem like everyone's like, Okay, cool, she's having a baby. But I think what's interesting about this is last year Laura released a mini series like a podcast series, titled Do I Want Kids? Because she's always been on the cusp of trying to decide what is right for her and she wanted to put out the pressures that people experience when they are trying to make this big, life changing decision. And I related heavily to that because I've always been in the same space. Obviously, Laura has made the decision to have kids. It's on the show today. Welcome Laura, and congratulations.

It's really like that's all that matters. I'm so excited for our guests on the show today Laura Henshaw. She's one half of the Absolute Empire that is Kick, which she hosts alongside and has started alongside Steph Clear Smith. So we're talking like podcasting, fitness apps, they've got food, they've got so much in it. They're absolute juggernauts in the space. But we're not talking to Laura Henshaw about that today. We're talking to Laura Henshaw today because she has just announced she is in her second trimester of pregnancy. Now that might seem like everyone's like, Okay, cool, she's having a baby. But I think what's interesting about this is last year Laura released a mini series like a podcast series, titled Do I Want Kids? Because she's always been on the cusp of trying to decide what is right for her and she wanted to put out the pressures that people experience when they are trying to make this big, life changing decision. And I related heavily to that because I've always been in the same space. Obviously, Laura has made the decision to have kids. It's on the show today. Welcome Laura, and congratulations.

Hello, Thank you so much.

Hello, Thank you so much.

Laura. Now that here are coming out of the trenches of the first trimester.

Laura. Now that here are coming out of the trenches of the first trimester.

How are you feeling.

How are you feeling.

Much much better now?

Much much better now?

The first trimester, I think as well, because you don't tell that many people, and also like it's obviously so early, the embryo is tiny. I felt so sick, and I also felt quite depressed, yes, which was it was a lot, a lot to take in, and I'd spoke to some friends about it and they kind of said, oh, I didn't feel that, and I was like, oh, my goodness, is something wrong with me? But anyway, now I'm out of the first trimester, I'm feeling alive again.

The first trimester, I think as well, because you don't tell that many people, and also like it's obviously so early, the embryo is tiny. I felt so sick, and I also felt quite depressed, yes, which was it was a lot, a lot to take in, and I'd spoke to some friends about it and they kind of said, oh, I didn't feel that, and I was like, oh, my goodness, is something wrong with me? But anyway, now I'm out of the first trimester, I'm feeling alive again.

I mean, you never know as well, because like, obviously your hormones are going crazy, But do you do you wonder whether or had you guys made the decision. Were you like, yes, we're trying for kids, or were you still at a point where you were kind of fluctuating between this yes and no feeling inside you?

I mean, you never know as well, because like, obviously your hormones are going crazy, But do you do you wonder whether or had you guys made the decision. Were you like, yes, we're trying for kids, or were you still at a point where you were kind of fluctuating between this yes and no feeling inside you?

So we had made the decision we wanted to have kids, but we were not trying.

So we had made the decision we wanted to have kids, but we were not trying.

It's interesting there's seen.

It's interesting there's seen.

A lot of conversation online about this, but you know, if I was having sex, therefore I was trying to have a child. Like people can, you know, say whatever they want to say and make judgment on that, but we weren't trying at the time, Like I was training for the London Marathon. I was literally like four weeks.

A lot of conversation online about this, but you know, if I was having sex, therefore I was trying to have a child. Like people can, you know, say whatever they want to say and make judgment on that, but we weren't trying at the time, Like I was training for the London Marathon. I was literally like four weeks.

Out from that.

Out from that.

We had thought I had a laproscopy books in on the fifteenth of May, thinking that we had to like in demetriosis looking at that and kind of exploring a few other things. So we definitely were not Yes, we were not trying at the time, so it was a very big surprise, but we had decided we did want.

We had thought I had a laproscopy books in on the fifteenth of May, thinking that we had to like in demetriosis looking at that and kind of exploring a few other things. So we definitely were not Yes, we were not trying at the time, so it was a very big surprise, but we had decided we did want.

To have kids.

To have kids.

What has the conversation been like off the back of doing a podcast series and been so openly vocal about the fact that you are unsure and then coming out saying you're pregnant because I can imagine. I mean, I've seen a little bit of discourse around it, which is a shame. But what do you want to say to those people, because I feel like people are making it sound like once you've made a decision, you're not allowed to change your mind.

What has the conversation been like off the back of doing a podcast series and been so openly vocal about the fact that you are unsure and then coming out saying you're pregnant because I can imagine. I mean, I've seen a little bit of discourse around it, which is a shame. But what do you want to say to those people, because I feel like people are making it sound like once you've made a decision, you're not allowed to change your mind.

Yes, that's exactly exactly right, And I feel like both of you would relate to this so much. And it's not just with having kids on it having kids that there's so many other decisions. But it's been really interesting, And I didn't expect a lot of people to listen to the whole podcast series, but a lot of people, I think, saw a few snippets and thought, oh, you don't want to have kids. So a lot of the commentary has been, as you said, kind of saying, oh, like, didn't you not want to have kids five minutes ago? But I think while I didn't, we didn't change our mind, like we actually just genuinely didn't know when we made the decision that we did want to. I think my biggest response to that is just that if we had changed our mind about a decision that is life altering for us and affects no one outside of myself and my husband, it is completely okay for us totally change our minds.