On this episode of Levels to This, Sheryl Swoopes and Terrika Foster-Brasby are joined live at the Lighthouse by Flagrant and Funny co-hosts Cari Champion and Jemele Hill. The four break down the 2025 WNBA Draft — from Azzi Fudd going first overall to the Dallas Wings, to the implications of Raven Johnson landing in Indiana alongside Caitlin Clark. The conversation shifts to the backlash against the UCLA women's basketball team after their NCAA championship run, and what it really means to interrupt a narrative when you're not who people expected to win. All four women get honest about the specific, grinding ways Black women in sports media are pushed to be something other than themselves, and what it looks like when Black women in the same space actually choose to go to bat for each other.

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