On this episode we cover:

- The difference between immediate secondary income, and building for the longterm
- Or is there a difference?
- Becoming an expert
- Should secondary income begin at the start of your career?
- The perfect ingredients to begin with - creativity and helping others
- What do you do after a long hard day at work, put your feet up and watch netflix?
- What do online creators get wrong?
- Pattu's thoughts on the ads that say "Join my masterclass!"
- How to build long term trust
- Is there a process to identifying what I am good at?
- Another golden PATTU THUMBRULE!
- Being active in your retirement
- How branding for your expertise is so important
- At the end, the most important thing to building secondary income is being ____