This episode deals with suicide, bullying and sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised.

Elsana Lower is a nurse, a mindset coach and a mum. In the last episode, she shared the raw reality of losing her teenage daughter Rylee to suicide following abuse and online bullying.

In the deeply moving conclusion to our conversation, Elsana Lower explores the transformative power of forgiveness and the mindset required to survive the unimaginable. This episode dives into the mechanics of 'learning to live and grieve simultaneously', offering a roadmap for anyone sitting in the "depths of hell" and is searching for a reason to choose life.

Elsana discusses how choosing forgiveness was not a gift to those who hurt her daughter, but a necessary disconnection to save her own life and release her attachment to their outcomes. She also talks about the importance of breaking self-isolation by showing up for social connections, even when your "social battery" feels empty, and using gratitude to retrain the brain to look for the "best part of the day," making it harder for the mind to dwell on the negative.

Listen to Part One of this conversation here.

SUPPORT:
If this episode raises concerns for yourself or a loved one, help is available:
Kids Helpline - 1800 55 1800 or https://kidshelpline.com.au/
Lifeline - 13 11 14 or https://www.lifeline.org.au/
Beyond Blue - https://www.beyondblue.org.au/

RESOURCES:
Online and social media info for parents: https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents
Bullying support: https://dollysdream.org.au/help-and-support 

LINKS 
Follow Emilee on Instagram (@emileehembrow) and TikTok (@emileehembrowofficial)
Follow Eslana (@eslanalower) on Instagram
Listen to Eslana's podcast 'Why Mindset Matters'
Check out Eslana's book 'Resilience After Great Loss'
Watch full episodes of Let's Be Real on YouTube
Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. 

CREDITS 
Host: Emilee Hembrow 
Guest: Eslana Lower
Executive Producer: Damien Haffenden
Recorded at:Pivotal Conversations Gold Coast 

Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au 

This episode deals with suicide, bullying and sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
Elsana Lower is a nurse, a mindset coach and a mum. In the last episode, she shared the raw reality of losing her teenage daughter Rylee to suicide following abuse and online bullying.
In the deeply moving conclusion to our conversation, Elsana Lower explores the transformative power of forgiveness and the mindset required to survive the unimaginable. This episode dives into the mechanics of 'learning to live and grieve simultaneously', offering a roadmap for anyone sitting in the "depths of hell" and is searching for a reason to choose life.
Elsana discusses how choosing forgiveness was not a gift to those who hurt her daughter, but a necessary disconnection to save her own life and release her attachment to their outcomes. She also talks about the importance of breaking self-isolation by showing up for social connections, even when your "social battery" feels empty, and using gratitude to retrain the brain to look for the "best part of the day," making it harder for the mind to dwell on the negative.
Listen to Part One of this conversation <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/lets-be-real/when-bullying-turns-deadly-a-story-every-parent-needs-to-hear">here</a>.
SUPPORT: If this episode raises concerns for yourself or a loved one, help is available: Kids Helpline - 1800 55 1800 or <a href="https://kidshelpline.com.au/">https://kidshelpline.com.au/</a> Lifeline - 13 11 14 or <a href="https://www.lifeline.org.au/">https://www.lifeline.org.au/</a> Beyond Blue - <a href="https://www.beyondblue.org.au/">https://www.beyondblue.org.au/</a> RESOURCES: Online and social media info for parents: <a href="https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents">https://www.esafety.gov.au/parents</a> Bullying support: <a href="https://dollysdream.org.au/help-and-support">https://dollysdream.org.au/help-and-support</a>&nbsp;
LINKS&nbsp;
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<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Emilee on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/emileehembrow/">Instagram</a>&nbsp;(@emileehembrow) and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@emileehembrowofficial">TikTok</a> (@emileehembrowofficial)</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Eslana (@eslanalower) on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/eslanalower/">Instagram</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Listen to Eslana's podcast '<a href="https://whymindsetmatters.buzzsprout.com/2506981">Why Mindset Matters</a>'</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Check out Eslana's book '<a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/resilience-after-great-loss-learning-to-live-grieve-simultaneously-lower/book/9781764280518.html">Resilience After Great Loss</a>'</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch full episodes of Let's Be Real on <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXMj4sYi38By8VRLVx8M5uBCewhOKKHM7">YouTube</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content &ndash; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>.&nbsp;</li>
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CREDITS&nbsp; Host:&nbsp;Emilee&nbsp;Hembrow&nbsp; Guest: Eslana Lower Executive Producer:&nbsp;Damien Haffenden Recorded at: <a href="https://www.pivotalconversations.ai/">Pivotal Conversations</a> Gold Coast&nbsp;
Find more great podcasts like this at <a href="http://novapodcasts.com.au/">novapodcasts.com.au</a>&nbsp;

Life doesn’t come with a rulebook, but it does come with lessons, stories, and conversations that shape who we are. 

Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia’s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to ‘have it all.’

Whether you’re chasing kids, dreams or deadlines it’s time for us to get honest about the juggle of modern life.

Life doesn&rsquo;t come with a rulebook, but it does come with lessons, stories, and conversations that shape who we are.&nbsp;
Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia&rsquo;s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to &lsquo;have it all.&rsquo;
Whether you&rsquo;re chasing kids, dreams or deadlines it&rsquo;s time for us to get honest about the juggle of modern life.

Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia’s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to ‘have it all.’

Let's Be Real

Life doesn’t come with a rulebook, but it does come with lessons, stories, and conversations that shape who we are.

Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia’s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to ‘have it all.’

Whether you’re chasing kids, dreams or deadlines it’s time for us to get honest about the juggle of modern life. 

Life doesn&rsquo;t come with a rulebook, but it does come with lessons, stories, and conversations that shape who we are.
Join Emilee Hembrow as she sits down with some of Australia&rsquo;s most influential voices and lifts the curtain on what it really takes to &lsquo;have it all.&rsquo;
Whether you&rsquo;re chasing kids, dreams or deadlines it&rsquo;s time for us to get honest about the juggle of modern life.&nbsp;

Healing After Heartbreak: 'Saying Yes To Grief' with Eslana Lower (Part 2)

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