The Noldeke/Schwallian Paradime states that the Uthmanic Quran is the standard Quran and does not question it . In this episode Al Fadi and Dr Jay Smith discuss some scholars that say otherwise. They are discussing Steven Shoemaker book; Creating the Quran. They conclude that the Quran ascribed to Uthuman was really established by Abd Al Malik which they will discuss in a coming episode.