American model Janice Dickinson remembers Shannen's strength and kindness on the set of "Charmed" when Janice was a guest star. The fashion icon also reveals how a painful childhood and abusive father didn't stop her from dominating the catwalks AND reality TV. Plus, what happened on the set of 'ANTM' that made her decide to become her own boss!
This is let's be clear for Shannon Doherty. Hello, I'm Janis Dickinson and I just wanted to thank you guys so much for having me on your show today. I'm not an actress. I was a supermodel. I began working in the seventies and I worked with some of the biggest names in fashion and some of the biggest designers, and I guest judged on America's Next Top Model. I am honored to be here guest hosting Shannondo or at East podcast. Shannon Doherty. She was the queen. I used to see her in nightclubs, dancing and smiling and sitting at like at the next table, and she was always very friendly with me. She was a strong and vocal woman at the time in Hollywood when women who were really not easily heard. I admire her for that, and I still do. I really wish she was back with us. I can't tell you how much I appreciated her, and I appreciated everything that she stood for, and I miss her, I really do. Shannon was a very extremely talented woman. I worked with her uncharmed, and she was so effervescent and friendly and nice to other people. She wasn't difficult with me, and she wasn't difficult on the set of Charms, so I want to break up that myth. She probably got a raw deal. I can relate to her for being no filtered mouth and speak from my heart and just say tell it like it is. You know, Shannon and I we kind of parallel lines because she would say things on ITA two one oh about scripts and things she didn't like. Producers are tricky, just like my producers on America's Next Top Model. I was on the season for six years. I didn't get raise, and I was producing most of the segments, and I opened my mouth and asked for more money, and I got fired. In this town, you have to be like a dada if you don't want to get fired from a show, or have a great communication with your producers, which is very rare. It's very rare to find a boss or someone who's running a show that we'll listen to you and see your point of view, but they don't want to hear it. That's something I've learned. I don't like to be told what to do either, So I can appreciate Shannon Doherty a lot. I too went through breast cancer and I found it in the early stages. It was difficult when I first heard that I had the breast cancer and I was completely spaced out. But I think that when the sea where it hits you cancer, it really takes you someplace else, like on another planet. For me, I was I had. I had a great husband and family and a sport team that took me to Cedar Sinai and spent five months in radiation, And I think that radiation just did a weird thing to my body. But I'm still I'm still here and I'm still kicking. I love what I've done with my life. I love that I've that I modeled at a very early age. When people were saying that I wasn't what they were looking for. I got rejected. It's like an actress getting going to auditions and getting rejected all the time. It was pretty rough, I have. Yeah. So that went on for about thirty years, and then I went into reality television. Would I have done anything different? No, I don't think I would have done anything diff written. In my life, I have done everything from modeling at a young age, becoming very successful, having written the books, being a photographer and photographing celebrities, that's pretty difficult photographing people. But I picked it up for my modeling days. Know what you want to do when you go out into the business world. If you love what you do, you will be happy and skip to work and sing. Like I was on my reality show, the Jianistick Ands and Modeling Agency Show. It was trying to find the next Kate Moss. Out of the models that are in Southern California, I advise all the young models because I do on an Instagram's site. I do judging their model walk and my advice to the models are always, you know, make sure you are old enough to be a model, like sixteen, fifteen or sixteen. Your shoulders are bat you hold your head up, you walk towards the end of the runway, pose for the camera, turn around and walk back. You should see what I have to judge. It's I'm having fun with it, and I think the girls are too. I love what they're doing now on TV with the housewife shows. The shows I like best are Believe it or Not, the ones about wildlife and whales and Oorca whales and dolphins. They're really fun for me to watch. That's where I get my inspiration or for music Wildlife. I was in Africa September before last and I did that show I'm a Celebrity to get me out of here. It was twenty eight days we had to get there in quarantine and Johannesburg. I'd never been there before, and it was so far away from everything else. It was just a camp. That's what. That's what the premise of the show is. You go with other cast meets and you sit around the fire with twelve other castmates to get voted off each season, and so on this show. During the quarantine, monkeys were coming by our hut to raft, the potamus, warthogs, all the animals indigenous to Johannesburg, in the middle of nowhere, and I was so excited and it brought me back to a place that I'd never been, like the middle of nowhere. I grew up in Hollywood, Florida, went to New York, Paris, Milan, blah blah blah. Now I'm back in La But Africa is a whole different ballgame. There were no cars. We were in this camp for a month, and about the ninth day in I got up in the middle night to go use the bathroom. Two steps and I fell down flat on my face. I was completely freaked out and in pain. People tried to help me. I said, don't touch me, don't touch me. So they took me out of the camp on a stretcher and they put me in a car, a van and drove me to the nearest hospital, which was about two and a half hours away, still moaning and screaming and really frustrated that I had I knew that I was going to be off the show because I really wanted to win this show for charity. They give you a couple hundred thousand dollars to donate to your favorite charity. Well, I ended up in the hospital and my husband, My husband came to Africa with me. He was on a fishing trip. He came to the hospital and that's when I burst into tears and just had these open swords. The only thing that fixed that was going to see doctor Lancer here in Beverly Hills. Doctor Lancer has these red light facial things, so he put me under the lamp like three times a week, and it's slowly but surely cleared up my sores on my face, and I used his products and everything was okay. After a couple of months, I was cured. That's that's pretty. That was somebody was pretty exciting. That happened to be lately. Let me see, Do I have advice for young women? Yes? I do. Women out there, you have to be really careful of where you go at night to a bar or on a date with someone, because you never know what they're going to slip into your drink. Something happened very bad to me in the past, and I was raped and it really blew my mind. Trust me, so if it could happen to me, it could happen to you. Really, watch hold your drink when you go out, and don't put it down and go to the ladies room and come back and pick up your drink. Just keep it with you. Something that happened to me when I was very young was I was going out up in a house with my father, who was a pedophile, and that went on for about sixteen years. Not with me. My older sister having been verbally abused and knocked around set me up for the knocks and downs of life. It's a very terrible thing to be told that you'll never amount to anything from your father. And if I talked back to him. He'd whip me and beat me and lock me in closets and car trunks. I had a pretty rough childhood. That's why I went to New York to become a model. I had to get out of the house. So that was one of the most typical things in my life that I've had to overcome. Did every reality show on Earth where I wrote three books, No Lifeguard, in Duty, everything about Miss Fake and Imperfect and Check Please. I'm about to start writing my fourth book and that will be a lot of fun. Every chapter will be about what has happened to me since two thousand and five, so it should be our real page turner. I'm an avid reader myself. Right now, presently I'm reading Eve Babbitt's a writer that was an LA writer back in during the fifties and sixties here in Los Angeles. Also Joan Didion. I highly suggest these two female writers because they are wonderful. Another thing, I have two to grandchildren. We have my son Nathan and his wife Carly, beautiful couple. They live a couple of miles down the street. They had Leo, who's like nineteen months old, and Tallula he's like three months old. And I have so much fun being in this world of being a grandmother that I never thought what happened to me having a legacy like this. Rocky my husband, he has three young boys as his grandchildren, so in our family we have five. The love that I have for these grandchildren something much different than I ever expected. So everybody out there looked forward to becoming a grandmother too. Now I'm going to be seventy in February and have a big blowout party and invite anybody that's anybody to come to my house. Will tent it out, have candles, in a rock band, and that's going to be fun. My schedule is jam packed. I have two new songs coming out because I decided to do a record album, and these are original songs and they're fun. And I rehearsed and I went down to Paul Springs and I sang live, and I sang live here in West Hollywood, and the audience really seemed to appreciate it because I got all dressed up in sequence into my number. It was really fun. Can't wait for you guys to hear my music. Tune in. I'm going to wrap this up and I appreciate everything that you're doing Shennan Doherty. You're going to go down forever as just being O wonderful actress with a lot of talent. Take care,