This is Let's be clear with Shannon Dhorny. Did you guys really think that that was it for the conversation with the twins? Nope, Brenda and Brandon, Shannon and Jason, we have more to share with you, So I'm giving you a bonus episode. When did you start acting? What age were you?

This is Let's be clear with Shannon Dhorny. Did you guys really think that that was it for the conversation with the twins? Nope, Brenda and Brandon, Shannon and Jason, we have more to share with you, So I'm giving you a bonus episode. When did you start acting? What age were you?

I was I was five maybe six years old. Yeah, like you, Shann, I'm a lifer.

I was I was five maybe six years old. Yeah, like you, Shann, I'm a lifer.

We are rere lifers. But you just keep going.

We are rere lifers. But you just keep going.

Yeah, yeah, somehow, I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, somehow, I don't know.

I just uh, I just I look for I look for projects that that are going to challenge me in some way, you know, so I'm not always just constantly rehashing the same material or you know, rehashing old characters like I'm always trying to look for look for projects that will challenge me. And and I seem to have been successful in finding those. And then and and I made that decision just because I wanted to. I wanted to put myself in situations where I was uncomfortable, so I'd have to have to figure out new paths and figure out new ways to do things, as opposed to you know, I think I think a lot of us, as we get older, we just you know, want to rest on our laurels and sit back and.

I just uh, I just I look for I look for projects that that are going to challenge me in some way, you know, so I'm not always just constantly rehashing the same material or you know, rehashing old characters like I'm always trying to look for look for projects that will challenge me. And and I seem to have been successful in finding those. And then and and I made that decision just because I wanted to. I wanted to put myself in situations where I was uncomfortable, so I'd have to have to figure out new paths and figure out new ways to do things, as opposed to you know, I think I think a lot of us, as we get older, we just you know, want to rest on our laurels and sit back and.

Tried. I've tried to keep myself moving forward as much as I can.

Tried. I've tried to keep myself moving forward as much as I can.

Well, I think that when you particularly in TV. I think when you play one character for you know, so many seasons, you pick up habits, and then those habits sometimes can move over into the next character, absolutely, and it's it's nice when you challenge yourself to break those habits and do something different. Why I was eating in every single scene. I had read a thing about Brad Pitt and eleven Right and his acting teacher, and he did it in The Counselor, by the way, with the submarine sandwich, and it's still the best scene in The Counselor as far as I'm concerned. Where he's he's saying that he made a scene that is heavy, kind of funny, and he was just shoveling the submarine sandwich in his mouth with it dripping down, and I was like, well, I wonder why he does this in certain movies. And then I read a thing between him and his acting coach that it's almost to get him out of his head, and so I was like, I'm gonna try it on the reboot, and I did, and I it in fact got me out of my head where I felt like I could be funny and have a sense of humor about myself and about the character that I created as and break all those old TV habits that had accumulated over the years.

Well, I think that when you particularly in TV. I think when you play one character for you know, so many seasons, you pick up habits, and then those habits sometimes can move over into the next character, absolutely, and it's it's nice when you challenge yourself to break those habits and do something different. Why I was eating in every single scene. I had read a thing about Brad Pitt and eleven Right and his acting teacher, and he did it in The Counselor, by the way, with the submarine sandwich, and it's still the best scene in The Counselor as far as I'm concerned. Where he's he's saying that he made a scene that is heavy, kind of funny, and he was just shoveling the submarine sandwich in his mouth with it dripping down, and I was like, well, I wonder why he does this in certain movies. And then I read a thing between him and his acting coach that it's almost to get him out of his head, and so I was like, I'm gonna try it on the reboot, and I did, and I it in fact got me out of my head where I felt like I could be funny and have a sense of humor about myself and about the character that I created as and break all those old TV habits that had accumulated over the years.

Right, awesome, how do you so? How do you?

Right, awesome, how do you so? How do you?

I know that you just said that you challenge yourself with different roles in different projects and the people that you work with. Is there anything that you do personally in order to make sure you're not carrying those habits from character to character to character, because in private eyes, there's no I don't see I did never see a comparison to Brandon.

I know that you just said that you challenge yourself with different roles in different projects and the people that you work with. Is there anything that you do personally in order to make sure you're not carrying those habits from character to character to character, because in private eyes, there's no I don't see I did never see a comparison to Brandon.

Yeah, no, never, And I and I and I.

Yeah, no, never, And I and I and I.

Like in the project and one of the projects I did last year, I played a real guy. I played a guy named Jerry McNamara and the Boria Salmon mini series. And so I had to go through two hours of hair and makeup every day and to make myself look like Jerry and put brown contacts in and and then you know, I had to alter my voice to sound like Jerry's. So it was, it was, it was a big it was a big challenge, but it was also super fun because I because I you know, when I looked in the mirror, I didn't I didn't look like myself at all. And so it was it was really cool to disappear into a character like that, like that, like that, that experience I think.

Like in the project and one of the projects I did last year, I played a real guy. I played a guy named Jerry McNamara and the Boria Salmon mini series. And so I had to go through two hours of hair and makeup every day and to make myself look like Jerry and put brown contacts in and and then you know, I had to alter my voice to sound like Jerry's. So it was, it was, it was a big it was a big challenge, but it was also super fun because I because I you know, when I looked in the mirror, I didn't I didn't look like myself at all. And so it was it was really cool to disappear into a character like that, like that, like that, that experience I think.

Showed me a lot about what about what.

Showed me a lot about what about what.

I how it would be, what would be, what it would be like for me to disappear, to totally disappear, because you know, like once you become once you become a known quantity and you know, a celebrity if you will, uh you know, you sort of you know, people people offer you parts because they want they want you know, they want that Jason Breeseley thing. They don't they don't want me to disappear totally inside a character. Uh and so to to I found like totally disappearing to be so freeing and uh and and fun like it just it just made the whole project so fun for me.

I how it would be, what would be, what it would be like for me to disappear, to totally disappear, because you know, like once you become once you become a known quantity and you know, a celebrity if you will, uh you know, you sort of you know, people people offer you parts because they want they want you know, they want that Jason Breeseley thing. They don't they don't want me to disappear totally inside a character. Uh and so to to I found like totally disappearing to be so freeing and uh and and fun like it just it just made the whole project so fun for me.

Tell us tell me about your new show, because you have a new show.

Tell us tell me about your new show, because you have a new show.

Yes, Uh, it's called wild Cards. It's on the CW Wednesday nights at eight o'clock. And uh, and I'm I'm the dad in the show. So the Vanessa Morgan plays the plays the ingenue on the show. It's you know, it's a two hand or a cop and a corn artist, uh, get forced to work together. But but they're really good at at solving mysteries, and so they end up the police commissioner makes some keep working together.

Yes, Uh, it's called wild Cards. It's on the CW Wednesday nights at eight o'clock. And uh, and I'm I'm the dad in the show. So the Vanessa Morgan plays the plays the ingenue on the show. It's you know, it's a two hand or a cop and a corn artist, uh, get forced to work together. But but they're really good at at solving mysteries, and so they end up the police commissioner makes some keep working together.

And and of course the con artist's.

And and of course the con artist's.

Dad, which I play George, is in prison and they keep coming to the prison to ask me advice.

Dad, which I play George, is in prison and they keep coming to the prison to ask me advice.

And you know, do you know this guy? Can you get me a meeting with this guy?

And you know, do you know this guy? Can you get me a meeting with this guy?

It's uh, it's so fun to work on a show where you just drop in one day an episode and then and then your business is done. Because usually I mean, you know, you and you and me for for years, number number one, number two, number two on the call sheet, working top to bottom every day, never get it. You know, maybe you can get a day off once a season, like you know, it's uh, it's a very different experience and and and a really freeing experience.

It's uh, it's so fun to work on a show where you just drop in one day an episode and then and then your business is done. Because usually I mean, you know, you and you and me for for years, number number one, number two, number two on the call sheet, working top to bottom every day, never get it. You know, maybe you can get a day off once a season, like you know, it's uh, it's a very different experience and and and a really freeing experience.

It's super fun.

It's super fun.

Does it ever feel weird though looking at the call sheet and be like, I'm I'm not number one on the call show, I'm not number two on the call She like when you're because as it is somebody who sort of drops in for one one day in episode. I don't even know are you number six or number two?

Does it ever feel weird though looking at the call sheet and be like, I'm I'm not number one on the call show, I'm not number two on the call She like when you're because as it is somebody who sort of drops in for one one day in episode. I don't even know are you number six or number two?

Number six? I think number five or number six.

Number six? I think number five or number six.

I'm like that, it's beautiful, It's beautiful, beautiful. I'm getting to the age where I want to start working smarter, not harder, And it feels like this is a way of working smarter.

I'm like that, it's beautiful, It's beautiful, beautiful. I'm getting to the age where I want to start working smarter, not harder, And it feels like this is a way of working smarter.

What a good way. And you have a family, Yeah, So it's nice to be able to get home to the family.

What a good way. And you have a family, Yeah, So it's nice to be able to get home to the family.

That's right.

That's right.

And I try not to disappear for too long on them because I you know, for years I was I was gone six seven months a year, shooting shooting show. So it's nice to be able to stay home a little bit more, hang out with my kids because they're going to be gone soon.

And I try not to disappear for too long on them because I you know, for years I was I was gone six seven months a year, shooting shooting show. So it's nice to be able to stay home a little bit more, hang out with my kids because they're going to be gone soon.

Right, Oh my god, how old are they now?

Right, Oh my god, how old are they now?

Well, my daughter Ava is sixteen and my son Dash is fourteen.

Well, my daughter Ava is sixteen and my son Dash is fourteen.

Did you meet them when we were in Vancouver, because they came up to Vancouver for a while while we were there.

Did you meet them when we were in Vancouver, because they came up to Vancouver for a while while we were there.

I think I did. I think I did, like briefly. Yeah, yeah, I think it was a surey brief because you know, it was chaotic on that side. Also, yes, it was so chaotic. I tried to take a bunch of my wardrobe. Yeah, and I couldn't fit it all into my suitcase. So I did a box, and I thought, like, well, it's fair that I'm taking some of my wardrobe because like I also wore some of my personal clothes. So I just figured, you know, that's like a healthy exchange. I'm not like a klepto or anything, but and i'd always like on spelling shows, taken my wardrobe. I still have stuff from like Brenda and Charmed, and so some of the stuff wouldn't fit, and I had to put it in a box, and I stupidly didn't tape up the box, and I also stupidly gave it to production to ship to me. Production s was my wardrobe. There was still some personal items in there that I still don't have back. But yeah, they they confiscated my stolen whow.

I think I did. I think I did, like briefly. Yeah, yeah, I think it was a surey brief because you know, it was chaotic on that side. Also, yes, it was so chaotic. I tried to take a bunch of my wardrobe. Yeah, and I couldn't fit it all into my suitcase. So I did a box, and I thought, like, well, it's fair that I'm taking some of my wardrobe because like I also wore some of my personal clothes. So I just figured, you know, that's like a healthy exchange. I'm not like a klepto or anything, but and i'd always like on spelling shows, taken my wardrobe. I still have stuff from like Brenda and Charmed, and so some of the stuff wouldn't fit, and I had to put it in a box, and I stupidly didn't tape up the box, and I also stupidly gave it to production to ship to me. Production s was my wardrobe. There was still some personal items in there that I still don't have back. But yeah, they they confiscated my stolen whow.

Oh my god.

Oh my god.

I was like, just give me the clothes, Like what do you get, Like, it's just gonna go sit in a warehouse somewhere. It's so silly. And I'm not the only one who did that. I think. I think they had to send out emails or call reps saying giving the list of people that stole their clothes.

I was like, just give me the clothes, Like what do you get, Like, it's just gonna go sit in a warehouse somewhere. It's so silly. And I'm not the only one who did that. I think. I think they had to send out emails or call reps saying giving the list of people that stole their clothes.

There was oh my god, it's fantastic. Yeah, we say why not?

There was oh my god, it's fantastic. Yeah, we say why not?

There was like a beautiful pair of ysel swayed like high heel boots. I was desperately wanted those, but I put them in the box.

There was like a beautiful pair of ysel swayed like high heel boots. I was desperately wanted those, but I put them in the box.

And how was How was Mandy? Mandy who was our wardrobe supervisor on that show? Was she fine with you taking the stuff? She didn't care.

And how was How was Mandy? Mandy who was our wardrobe supervisor on that show? Was she fine with you taking the stuff? She didn't care.

She didn't care, But she also knew that I I had warned some of my own personal items, right, and you know, our union protects us with that where they would have to pay us for said said items. And I just didn't want to do the inventory and it seemed ridiculous to be like, hey, can you give me x amount of dollars from my own wardrobe? So she was fine, of course, she also couldn't do anything when they confiscated it all back from me and to Mandy. You know, testament to Mandy, there's not that much wardrobe I ever really want from a show. But the clothes from the reboot, I wanted every single item.

She didn't care, But she also knew that I I had warned some of my own personal items, right, and you know, our union protects us with that where they would have to pay us for said said items. And I just didn't want to do the inventory and it seemed ridiculous to be like, hey, can you give me x amount of dollars from my own wardrobe? So she was fine, of course, she also couldn't do anything when they confiscated it all back from me and to Mandy. You know, testament to Mandy, there's not that much wardrobe I ever really want from a show. But the clothes from the reboot, I wanted every single item.

Yeah, they were good. She's she's really good. She's really talented lady.

Yeah, they were good. She's she's really good. She's really talented lady.

Yeah, she's very talented.

Yeah, she's very talented.

Yeah. I liked I liked her a lot.

Yeah. I liked I liked her a lot.

And to balance that many of us and balance the girls. Right, that's a hard job because it doesn't matter how mature you are. Maybe now, there's still always going to be somewhat of a competitiveness there of why is why is her wardrobe nicer? Like I wanted to wear that dress or whatever it is, There's always going to be some of that, And she really balanced it where I think everybody was very happy with their clothes and what they did, versus on the original Nana Tuna, where you know, it was nothing but sort of competition, At least for me, it turned into nothing but competition after that Rolling Stone cover came out right. Well, see, you didn't get the same conversations I got, right because I don't know why. Maybe maybe it's because I am female. But I remember when we did that cover, I had a bunch of cast members into my dressing room and tell me how wrong it was that I did a cover of Rolling Stone without them and that I should have demanded did everybody be on the cover? And I was like, a I'm not in the position to tell Rolling Stone what to do too. I'm I have a career to worry about, and what a huge honor to be asked to be on this magazine cover. So yeah, no, that's your problem, that's not mine and oh my definitely yeah. But see you and Luke didn't get that. I don't know why you didn't, but it wasn't fair.

And to balance that many of us and balance the girls. Right, that's a hard job because it doesn't matter how mature you are. Maybe now, there's still always going to be somewhat of a competitiveness there of why is why is her wardrobe nicer? Like I wanted to wear that dress or whatever it is, There's always going to be some of that, And she really balanced it where I think everybody was very happy with their clothes and what they did, versus on the original Nana Tuna, where you know, it was nothing but sort of competition, At least for me, it turned into nothing but competition after that Rolling Stone cover came out right. Well, see, you didn't get the same conversations I got, right because I don't know why. Maybe maybe it's because I am female. But I remember when we did that cover, I had a bunch of cast members into my dressing room and tell me how wrong it was that I did a cover of Rolling Stone without them and that I should have demanded did everybody be on the cover? And I was like, a I'm not in the position to tell Rolling Stone what to do too. I'm I have a career to worry about, and what a huge honor to be asked to be on this magazine cover. So yeah, no, that's your problem, that's not mine and oh my definitely yeah. But see you and Luke didn't get that. I don't know why you didn't, but it wasn't fair.

Yeah why hey, yeah, it is what it is, right, it is.

Yeah why hey, yeah, it is what it is, right, it is.

What it is. I mean, I think that that was a different day and age. Right, men were paid more. You were paid more than me. You were number one on the call sheet. I was number two, right, and you were instantly deemed quarterback. And I think that that was particularly with Aaron, it was it was a very male mentality, and maybe that's why it was easier for everybody to demand that I not do certain press unless they're involved as opposed to going to the men, right, or maybe they just knew you would. You would laugh and walk away. You're very you're always very diplomatic, so but with this sense of humor, so you would have handled it differently than I did.

What it is. I mean, I think that that was a different day and age. Right, men were paid more. You were paid more than me. You were number one on the call sheet. I was number two, right, and you were instantly deemed quarterback. And I think that that was particularly with Aaron, it was it was a very male mentality, and maybe that's why it was easier for everybody to demand that I not do certain press unless they're involved as opposed to going to the men, right, or maybe they just knew you would. You would laugh and walk away. You're very you're always very diplomatic, so but with this sense of humor, so you would have handled it differently than I did.

I think both of those things would be are true.

I think both of those things would be are true.

They're definitely definitely true. So how is the show doing. What's been the response?

They're definitely definitely true. So how is the show doing. What's been the response?

The response has been really good. Everybody seems to really like the show.

The response has been really good. Everybody seems to really like the show.

I you know, you know, it's a super light blue sky procedural. All right, it's super fun. It's funny, it's charming. Everybody in it is very charming. It's it's a lot of fun. I just I hope people will look for it and check it out.

I you know, you know, it's a super light blue sky procedural. All right, it's super fun. It's funny, it's charming. Everybody in it is very charming. It's it's a lot of fun. I just I hope people will look for it and check it out.

Well the better because they gotta, they gotta just to tune in and see you for sure, and they will. By the way, I have my publicist who is also she's been with me for I don't know twenty five years, and she is a producer of my podcast as well, right, and she listens in all the time. She sent me a text message saying, I'm dying because nine two and oh is her favorite show of all time and it is always like, oh my god, Brandon and Brenda, Brandon and Brenda. So Sloaney, I know that you're listening, and Jay says, Hi, Hi, anyway, I adore you.

Well the better because they gotta, they gotta just to tune in and see you for sure, and they will. By the way, I have my publicist who is also she's been with me for I don't know twenty five years, and she is a producer of my podcast as well, right, and she listens in all the time. She sent me a text message saying, I'm dying because nine two and oh is her favorite show of all time and it is always like, oh my god, Brandon and Brenda, Brandon and Brenda. So Sloaney, I know that you're listening, and Jay says, Hi, Hi, anyway, I adore you.

I love you.

I love you.

I'm seeing you in February.

I'm seeing you in February.

Yes, yeah, that's right, I'm going to see you in February. Cool. Awesome. I love you too, Shan, so nice to get spend some time with you.

Yes, yeah, that's right, I'm going to see you in February. Cool. Awesome. I love you too, Shan, so nice to get spend some time with you.

All right, I'll see you soon.

All right, I'll see you soon.

Cool, Thanks Shan, Bye bye.

Cool, Thanks Shan, Bye bye.

I hope you guys all enjoyed the twins being back together again. We certainly enjoyed it, and thank you for listening to Let's Be Clear Wishanna Doherty See you next time.

I hope you guys all enjoyed the twins being back together again. We certainly enjoyed it, and thank you for listening to Let's Be Clear Wishanna Doherty See you next time.