Shell Chief Executive Officer Wael Sawan joins Francine Lacqua to discuss the oil major's controversial strategy around the energy transition, and fostering a culture that shifts from “all-knowing” to “all-learning.” He reflects on navigating volatility in the global energy system, emphasizing disciplined decision-making and focusing on what leaders can influence going forward. This interview was recorded on Dec. 11, 2025

Shell Chief Executive Officer Wael Sawan joins Francine Lacqua to discuss the oil major's controversial strategy around the energy transition, and fostering a culture that shifts from &ldquo;all-knowing&rdquo; to &ldquo;all-learning.&rdquo; He reflects on navigating volatility in the global energy system, emphasizing disciplined decision-making and focusing on what leaders can influence going forward. This interview was recorded on Dec. 11, 2025

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world. Publishes every other Monday.

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world. Publishes every other Monday.

What makes a leader successful? Learn from people at the top. Join Bloomberg Television award-winning anchor and editor-at-large Francine Lacqua as she speaks with CEOs and other industry leaders to discover what drives them, their definition of success and how they are shaping their companies amid a fast-changing world.

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Shell Boss Wael Sawan on Tough Calls, Regret and Leading Through Uncertainty

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In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with outgoing BHP Chief Executive Mike Henry. Here's a preview of their conversation, where Henry reflects on BHP's two unsuccessful bids for Anglo American, the importance of staying disciplined during high-stakes M&A negotiations, and why maintaining a long-term growth strategy matters more than chasing any single deal.

In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with outgoing BHP Chief Executive Mike Henry. Here's a preview of their conversation, where Henry reflects on BHP's two unsuccessful bids for Anglo American, the importance of staying disciplined during high-stakes M&amp;A negotiations, and why maintaining a long-term growth strategy matters more than chasing any single deal.

Preview: BHP CEO Mike Henry on Bold Deals, Discipline, and the Future of Mining

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International Monetary Fund Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva has spent the past six years navigating some of the biggest challenges facing the global economy — from the Covid-19 pandemic and Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine to the rapid emergence of artificial intelligence.

In this episode of Leaders, Francine Lacqua sits down with Georgieva to discuss what it takes to lead an institution representing 191 countries, how the IMF approaches economic crises and why trust is essential when governments are asked to make difficult reforms.

International Monetary Fund Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva has spent the past six years navigating some of the biggest challenges facing the global economy &mdash; from the Covid-19 pandemic and Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine to the rapid emergence of artificial intelligence.
In this episode of Leaders, Francine Lacqua sits down with Georgieva to discuss what it takes to lead an institution representing 191 countries, how the IMF approaches economic crises and why trust is essential when governments are asked to make difficult reforms.

IMF Chief Kristalina Georgieva on AI, Ukraine, Russia and the Next Global Shock

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In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva. Here's a preview of that conversation where Georgieva reflects on the difficult balance between economic reform and public trust, why protecting the most vulnerable is essential during crises, and how leaders can build a shared sense of sacrifice and responsibility in turbulent times.

Be sure to subscribe to catch the full episode. 

In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva. Here's a preview of that conversation where Georgieva reflects on the difficult balance between economic reform and public trust, why protecting the most vulnerable is essential during crises, and how leaders can build a shared sense of sacrifice and responsibility in turbulent times. Be sure to subscribe to catch the full episode.&nbsp;

Preview: IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva on Crisis Leadership and Public Trust

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Shell Boss Wael Sawan on Tough Calls, Regret and Leading Through Uncertainty

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