In this episode of Lay of the Land, Trent R. Nelson talks with:

• Executive Director Josh Sabo - Heartland Housed

In part one of this two-part discussion, Trent and Josh chatted about Springfield, the homeless situation across the city, Sangamon County, the state of Illinois, and the greater nation in general; we went through some of the problems, some proposed and historically effective solutions, and what local government and the people of the community can do to make their world better for themselves and their fellows as well.