Karen Pence and a professor at Oxford University are both accused of being homophobic for holding traditional Catholic views on sexuality. Are these people actually homophobic - and is there any place for their Christianity in modern society? Lauren and Liam discuss.

<p>Karen Pence and a professor at Oxford University are both accused of being homophobic for holding traditional Catholic views on sexuality. Are these people actually homophobic - and is there any place for their Christianity in modern society? Lauren and Liam discuss.</p>

Elitists operating in pop culture, establishment politics, and the mainstream media have decided that their opinions are the correct ones, dismissing anyone who disagrees with them as intolerant or uninformed. While other commentators may be vying for insider clout, Lauren Chen is one "pseudo-intellectual" who's happy to be on the outside.