Look man, oh, I see you? Why? Why? Oh? And look over there? How is that? Culture? Yes? Goodness? Lost culture? Where to begin? Who am I looking at? Sometimes I have to look twice this new person in front of me. What are you feeling? If you did not know me, if you were in a terrible accident, lost all your memories, your your hippocampus was rash, mother, Connie racked campus, racked in an accident, and if you saw me for the first time, listen, I didn't want to talk about the hair that much. But what do you expect? I have to react to stimuli? Please, Okay? So then what do you think of this person? I would think fatal. I would think I see Sharon Stone, basic instinct, pussy Barren, ice Pick, Wheeldon, troublemaking, fem fatal of the Sharon Stone ilk. It's giving me a little bit unapologetic Slytherin hon it's saying Draco, fuck it. You walk into a room and Draco Malfoy drops the fine china he's holding. He says, who the fuck is my sister? It is giving me high impact, it's giving me shock, it's giving me lightning type. It's giving me everything I need and more girl, Thank you. How do you feel? I think it's all I think it's giving is corn silk I mean my corn silk era one of the best eras to be in, and it's actually goes chars art era, and then you go to your corn corns. That's actually the evolution. When the way, bitch, when do you think you'll be in your corn silk era? Are you in it already? You know? Perchance? I am bo, per chance? I am what? How are you doing? Let's talk about you. Well, I actually tested positive for the novel coronavirus. Thank you. It's so it's so interesting that you and I are. I'm sorry to kind of no, but I love that we've all agreed as a culture that we will no longer use the well no, we will no longer use the valerie cherished, I got it. Or to announce that we have no no no, I'm saying it clearly because we need more clear information. Okay, this is what we're all saying. We need more clear information. So I'm going to be as clear as day when I say I tested positive for the novel coronavirus parentheses O Macron's version, and I have to say I stand here and I've done a dance with the devil, and it has ended with us both bowing to each other and leaving the dance an honorable dance. It was an honorable dance she gave me. She gave me a tango dance with her. She doesn't let you out of her grip. She leads, she leads, you follow, and you think you lead in this. No, no, no no. There were two days where she had me shivering on the couch, doll. She had me shook, as Lisa Barlow would say, and we'll get into it, I'm literally shaking. That was that me, was me on the couch we should be using in order to signal that we have COVID. I'm shaking. I'm I'm literally shook. On the phone right now, COVID Test Center number six, honey. So we have both danced with the devil since our last episode, so much has happened. You had COVID, I had COVID. I had to cancel the whole rest of my shows. Do think about that? That was that did not feel good. Was a different world she got. She warped herself there at the end, and I think you and I ended it on a very lovely, enriching note in a very perfect place and a place that I think we love and are and are very connected to for the rest of our lives. That was Mako City, Meko City, c Dmax. You know, it really came through. It really came through. We loved it all, didn't we. There's not much more to say say that. There was just so much too discover and enjoy. And if you had to give trip highlights, I think mine would probably be drinking in the canals. We drank at um yes Hochi milco um, perfect, perfect experience. Matt hadn't asked the Mariachi band if they knew any Beyonce, and I did ask them, and I was given the look I should have been given, and that the look that anyone should jet when they ask a mariachi band in Mexico do they know any Beyonce? It was less a thing of I legit wanted Bowen to ask, so that it was sort of will Bowen asked them, do you guys know Beyonce? And I just wish I had taped it, because he did, and he did receive a look similar to the one he is describing. The guy was like no, no, no, we don't. All right now, I'm holding up the gangar slash Hunter that Bowen. It's a stuffed animal pokemon that Bowen bought on the canals. It's actually I see what they're doing now. So it's a it's a haunter that looks suspicially suspiciously like an axlotl, which is native to Milo. But I think what they're doing is the feet are actually the hunter's hands, and then the thing at the side is just hunters the rest of Hunter's head. Oh wait, I hadn't looked at it like that before. Get a screen grab of this, because now now I want people to understand what we're looking at here. Okay, so these and these very much like its feet, but actually they're his hands. Yes, you know how Hunter looks like what Hunter looked like. You're so right. I hadn't thought about that before them anyway, it's really giving feet anyway, it's giving feet. The one bought that on the canal itself. People just will sort of row their boat up to the side of your your boat and make transactions. It's really a wild scene. It's a wild scene. And then other trip highlights included the food um, the neighborhoods, the history, and we went to Freeda's house. We went to Freeda's house. She suffered in her she suffered very much. And the museum is a testament sort of to her art. But also they really let you know she suffered. Yeah, this was the bad where she suffered, laid pussy up, yeah, and suffered and suffered. She suffered over here, she suffered over there. She suffered in the kitchen, she suffered in the living room, she suffered in the gardens. She suffered everywhere all around that house. Girl. But do you know what room I loved in that house? Tell me what room? The room where she took photographs of herself and then they put photos like she took selfies on beautiful film and she like it was they weren't selfies, but they were just like she posed for photographs in a way that was just like, Oh, that person has stark quality. She was that girl, you know what I mean? She even though she suffered so hard and so much, she's still managed to be that girl who is like that now, like someone who suffered, but it's still that girl. I want to say, Malala Malala, Yes, she definitely suffered in similar akin to Frieda, Patty Harrison. Patty Harrison has suffered, and she is that girl. She is that girl, she remains that girl. Who else, um, I would say, damn, I would say, you know, you know who Bradley Jackson, Bradley, these are all free as she and she still that girl that was top of mine. Because congratulations, congratulations to you, and will congratulate the third graders, but yes, go So the reason I found out that The Morning Show was getting renewed for a third season was because Bowen tagged me and the incredible website Instagram dot com, and I saw that I had attacked from him, and it was in I was tagged in the announcement that the Morning Show is going to be renewed for a season three. I put it on my story. I have never received this outpouring of support. I have never received this response from putting a story up. Everyone is in my d ms celebrating the third graders getting this new job. And I have to say, if I only knew that I had so much family out there that also watches The Morning Show, and if I can be even a conduit for them to experience this television, you have started a movement and not like we will continue this show for seasons four, season five. We're seeing them all the way through. We are going the distance. The third graders are no celebrating, and a lot of people have questions and they're saying, the third graders become fourth graders. I think yes. The staff remains the same. They're not being held back. No the school like I'm saying, like in the school system, like no one and no administrators gonna think no, no, no, no, no, no no. They're very behind in math. No, they've not gone to a single math class this year. No, their careers started, thank you. Their career started when I started having incredible success. You're doing math. I wasn't doing math anymore to this height. Once I got to this height, I wasn't gonna see you. What are science Forget it? The third graders have started their professor stional careers. Drop everything and read more like drop everything and break this season right, more like drop everything and right because you've you've exemplified your talent and your gift. And they have a gift for storytelling. These writers, the way they break story is so crazy, and if you think for one second that end Just Like That isn't getting a second season. They might not be. You're deeply mistaken. No, you're deeply mistaken. And now there's been reports. You've seen the reports, right, well, I haven't seen any of these so called reports. Explained to me. Explain to me how we're not moving forward with the story. Carry Miranda and Charlotte explain similarly. On the Variety Instagram page, there was a whole grid post dedicated to this rumor that and Just Like That will not return for another season because of the christ no Ath allegations, which doesn't really that is the biggest of bullshit I've ever heard. So you you just you you don't, you don't. You don't believe it. The show will get a second season because everyone is in love with Jadas. There has never been a character there so so high impact. It really is, do you think do you think we're eating crow like since three weeks ago because we were over here being like j d As is awful. We can't stand this character between our legs saying cha is an icon? Is an icon? Well, here's the deal. Sometimes it's not what it's it's like what Geogon famously says, Well, what you want to do is not necessarily what you're gonna do, And what you might want to do is say no, I don't like Chaya doesn't make any sense. Jay is making everyone's life worse. I don't like anything to do with Chay. That might be what you want to say. What you're gonna do is watch cha. Shaddas has got their finger in Miranda's puss in their hand over America's mouth. Shut up, I'm here to say. And Shade Diaz is fingering the television audience. And I was gonna say, they have their fingers in all of our pussies. Oh, you have no idea how finger and I feel whenever Jay comes on the screen. It is so we watched the last episode together, not the most well. We watched one oh five we watched we watched the one that the one that counted one oh five Tragically Hip, Tragically Hip, which is kind of It's such a meta title. I just love that as a title. The titles have been giving I will say, okay, but the titles are making me question how much of this is like camp like in the way that it's like self aware about how like crazy it is what we have to stop and start realizing, is that this is not Sex in the City. It's its own I know, I know, and I don't think Sex in the City was too campy. It was fantastical, I'm I'm saying, and just like that is camp because we need you. I don't think you've talked about lt W and Charlotte's Internet sesame streets. So can you please explain this? Unfortunately, you actually will enjoy the show more. And I give this to the readers. And you know that I look out for you every single time, and so I want you to start committing to doing this. Every time Charlotte and lt W are in a scene together, watch it as if what you're watching is the television's program Sesame Street. It is. Simply, It's the only way you can explain away the reality that those two exist in is that they are muppets working together to teach us a lesson. I got you a latte. I got you a latte. Listen. I really want you to come to a party. I would love to go to your party. I love hanging out with you. Great. I feel the same way. I'm going to get a party together and invite you over the phone. Your husband will be there. He sure will, and your husband and I guess we should have guests, Um, the kids, Oh, I don't know about that. How about all their adults. It'll be an adult dinner party. All right, I'll call you my phone off to myself. Now, I don't want her to be the only black person there. I better invite another black person. It's just so you guys, they're there. Scenes are their dialogue, it's it's their dialogue in particular, but in the performance, and there is something about each of those actresses performing is that are like, what are you doing? First of I mean, I don't know if I don't because I believe in Nicole are Parker. I believe in her more than what I'm seeing. I just hope that there is a shoe that gets to drop with lt W because you probably agree that scene or that episode where Charlotte realizes that this woman is going to be the only black person at her dinner party, and so she goes out of her way to invite a black person that that she knows like any old person to come there. And then when like Shenanigans happened Toot the episode, they sit down at lunch and she goes I invited that person I don't even like to my house because I didn't want you to be the only black person there. What lt W has to say is, oh, I think the same way about you protect trying to protect you as a white person. Oh l o L sip of RT scene ends as if a black person would ever react to that way. I was just like, uh, like, this is really just a chaotic cartoon in the world of Charlotte, and maybe it got a little bit better on this last episode, like there wasn't there wasn't much interaction between them though, No, not even with them. I've kind of moved on from from from them, like I just been in the world of Charlotte, like her dealing with her child's um, you know, impending transition here. I have no idea what I guess I want to say. I don't know who the show is for, but I actually know exactly who it's for, and it's just probably not for so many people that enjoyed sex in the city that it's kind of just like, all right, I guess we kind of just gotta move on from this one. This is what I said to you at one point, like I miss and I know this is not the reason you should watch any television show, but I miss when I would want to be like these women and like there's you know, nothing aspirational and that's okay and like, but I just feel like it was more fun to watch when I took these women seriously and the and the fact that like, and I told you as, I think one thing that could solve so many problems just for me personally, is if one of them was, like I like, uh, one of Carrie, Charlotte or Miranda gets fucking like dragged in the funniest way possible, like one on the show. Not I like these peripheral characters, but just like cussed out in the street by teenagers or something like something. And I don't know, Like I think it should be one of the new friends. And that kind of happened with um Seema and Carrie when they kind of got into it a little bit in the first episode that we met Seema, And I think that's the reason why that's the new friendship that's working for me, probably the best out of all them, because it feels like we've seen them go through something that's formative enough where I believe a relationship is earned. There with like Miranda and Dr Naya. Nothing about any of their interactions up to the point where they were having dinner getting really personal, was I like, yeah, I can buy this happening. It was only Miranda being a damn flop in class, just like putting like Naya in situations where she was made to be uncomfortable. And then of course there was that weird moment with the them the little chucky guy on the subway platform, but I don't know if that worked enough for me to believe like friendship between them. Also, why did Naya get the only scene in like the whole season so far, the only little like series of scenes where she's just fully separated, like there's no real connection to the core three women, Like it's just you see if we're going on a date, like a double date with you know, like this this this couple and then fucking her husband in the next scene like give her like a subplot, and it kind it was like this is episode six of the first season and she's just now kind of like they've cut to her family a couple of times, but never like this, And I'm like, I just wonder in the grand scheme of things, like what is that leading towards like how does that connect back? How does that connect back to the story, Like, are you just telling a story about this woman? Because if so, like just throwing her a scene every three episodes where that happens like and now we're only getting into an episode six is not like serving the character. It's just distracting from a narrative you're telling. And they are telling a story about Carrie, Miranda and Charlotte. That's the story that they're doing. So how is this all serving it? You know what I mean? My theory is, Um, she ends up hanging surrogate and then Samantha and then she comes back. See, because this is the thing, this is the world of the third graders, is that it's sort of like do I almost wish Samantha would come in and be the surrogate? Yeah? I I will say out of the actresses, Karen Pittman, Oh, there's nothing wrong with with Karen Pittman. Everything right. The performances besides I'm sorry, Kristin Davis and Um and then l TW like those are That's the only thing that I'm like, what is going on here? Like Miranda, Miranja and carry are giving you like pretty cool, grounded stuff for the most part. I mean, let's just say this, Miranda, Miranda Cynthia Nixon, definitely she read on the page. Miranda gets fingered in the kitchen and she said, okay, well, I'm gonna make that a moment for everyone's life times and she barked like a wolf into Sata Marez hand and she really barked like a wolf. That's really the only way you can describe the orgasm. Wolf bark, wolf bark wolf exorcism. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The eyes are the freakiest part. It was horror film. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's to to train. It was choose your train that had a zombie spirit. It was it was oh demon train you. You won't get that reference. Some of the readers will. Can I just shout out the readers. The publicists who I got to meet through Final Fantasy fourteen were the publicists playing the publicists. You have no idea how many of the publicists are like hardcore m m O RPG gaming right now, RP RP gaming whatever can they ball? I am. I'm horned up for some of these readers who like, we're helping me, giving me some items, some equipment. I was like, the generosity here is really earning me on. And I gotta say going on Twitch was very fun. I only kept I only went on Twitch when I had COVID. I don't know if I will go again, um, because I think to have a Twitch presence you need to be very consistent and I can't do that. But it was very fun to stream to like try on the streamer hat for a little bit. It's a very fun community. People are very funny in the chat. Matthew, you don't know what you're missing. These readers have a lot of verve. Oh yes them, vigor verve them vigor verve and voracity. What is voracity? I feel like it's true, like the way something is truth is true? Which is which also applies? Are you looking it up? I can tell you are conformity to facts and accuracy. I just wanted to ye. I love it. I love I love calling the readers voracious. It's a different that's tho, racioust not the ra what is spelling really? And also I don't know, I don't people know. I don't mean to be I don't mean to be one of those people. I'm sorry you do to be that I've gotten better over time. When you agree, I don't care anymore about like sucking all that all that um when when I speak and the readers know in their heart what I mean, you are the most effective communicator, one of the most effective communicators in the world. You really are. I'm not joking. Thank you for saying that. I try to be. You speak in people, your face and honest girl, countless times the world the world over. You are that. If anyone is v racious, it's my sister. Should the title of that be veracious but spelled voracious but spelled wrong? V I think we can we I mean, we might find another one. You're so right. I just want to quickly so that with that, Sorry, what were we doing before the Shadow? I just want to close a shout up by saying, I it was so fun to play Final Fantasy fourteen, which, oh my god, Matt, if you were a gamer, if you could sink in all these hours, it's some of the best storytelling I've ever witnessed in any medium. And walker Final Fantasy fourteen, Oh my god. And there's just one villain in the last expansion. It's like it's better than Game of Thrones. It's better than Game of Thrones in terms of telling a high fantasy story in a cohesive universe. Game of Thrones like, I don't know, like I just I feel like you lose the thread pretty easily. And for this, this game does the thing of making you hooked even as it develops more what never happens. Grace couldn't do it, Desperate Housewives couldn't do it. They flopped lost, flop lost, absolute flop and a half. So we don't even have to talk about it. And just like that anymore, I will say to keep things off on a positive, I think the acting is half incredible, like Cynthia. If you're going to be given that plot line, you gotta sell like Cynthia Nixon does, and she fucking did s j P. I'm just I could just watch or do annything and carry Carry is the best part of the show, which should should always be true, and at least that is true. It's just kind of the the ways that the show is trying to navigate one slash in a way that I don't think it needs to. That's like bothering. This is the thing I need to put out there, and I text to do this as well before I know, we want to end this on a positive now, and we will because we're watching, we're enjoying. But I texted you in that scene at the doctor's office with Jonathan Groth, like, remember his character kept doing like little asides that were like, well, my assistant finds that triggering or whatever the line was like, and then it was just like it was just all this stuff where it was like, I'm realizing that almost every scene in this show has this low frequency of like fear of saying the wrong thing, yeah, to an audience of people who like are much more sophisticated than any of the people in this world, where like, well, I hope I don't get canceled for wearing a sorry, you know, like that's right, and it's it's it's distracting. It's so distracting and it really Yeah, it takes me out of it, and then I like, don't take these people seriously. I don't know. Yeah, I also part of me just wonders like, if this is the way you're going to flash them out into an hour long format, then maybe they're sitcom characters, you know, maybe maybe we're maybe we're just supposed to say, that's something I missed maybe a little bit, is like that shorter twenty four minute bite that it was, you know what I mean, Like the character's got to be got to come in and being a little bit more stock Like I don't know, like if you're gonna flash out the characters like this and develop them like this and they're gonna act like Charlotte, it's like it just feels like cardboard versions of the characters that we knew, which is weird because they actually had the opportunity need to deepen them. Yes, and I think, you know, like I said, I'm I know it's not for me and probably a ton of people that watched it, but to be positive about it, it definitely is for certain people, you know what I mean, people having those late in life, you know, I opening moments about themselves and you know, generationally, like people like even though they're in there like you know, mid fifties, like finally stepping up for themselves and saying like, no, I'm unhappy, I need to take steps to make myself happy. Definitely, I think those things happen and are real and I'm happy. There's so depicting that especially for women like someone posted the other day, like, you know, there's women and the Golden Girls were like younger than the women and just like that, And isn't it great that we're like not treating them like old ladies, Like of course, but then again, it's like a lot of this is about how old they are, you know what I mean, Like STV falling apart at fifty five, and like people dying, it's a lot of doom, gloom and death. And I'm just like, I understand we're examining them at a different part of their age, but like, let's still have them be fun. And I think that there are glimpses of that in the show whenever they leave back the doom and cloom and let the characters have fun and discover their and fun vibrant ways that are fun to watch. You know, the show is cool, but when it's not like that, which is a lot of it, it just gets hard to watch. Speaking of Sesame Street, let's just really quickly change one of the best shows. We're not disrespecting oh yes, no no no, no, no no, no no no. We're saying it's sex and the city doesn't doesn't belong on in just like that. That's not all but totally thing, totally different. Now I want to just I just I want to bring this up because some of the readers wanted us to talk about this. But what do you think of this Elmo meltdown? Well, I'm team Elma all the way. We're team Elma all the way. But it's like it's like when you're when your friends, like you know, snaps, sometimes the only option is to support them, especially if they're correct. Look, here's here's the deal. So for people that don't know, Elmo and Zoe were doing a scene. They were doing a scene together. They were doing a scene and um, they were being filmed for the show Sesame Straight. And they were having lunch. They're having dinner. They were they were eating, they were joining together. From you, someone dropped off three cookies. Someone dropped off three cookies, so they were gonna sit down to eat the cookies. It's weird because there's a cookie in front of Zoe, a cookie in front of Elmo, and a cookie in front of this rock and Zoe is sort of referring to the Rock as rock Rock is sitting rock Rocco, Rocko, Rocko, the Rock is sitting there. He's sitting there. That's that's his cookie, she says. So Almo says, that's not his cookie, that's a rock. It can't eat the cookie. I would like to eat the cookie if there's no one else who wants it, if the cookie is just gonna sit there. Because certainly, certainly Elmo thinks, Rocko the Rock is not gonna eat this cookie, which so Zoe has the audacity to be like, you know, to get upset and be like, you can't eat this cookie. It's rock goes cookie. So no, Elmo, and I think you and I at home are like what world am I living in? Like are you kidding me? So he starts vocalizing that like it's a rock, Rocko the Rock isn't gonna eat the cookie, and he's getting upset. Did you ever get to eat the cookie? That is the craziest part of this whole thing. It's so twisted. Naturally this blew up and is now trending online. Does it happen on TV? It happened on TV, And this is what happens every day on the Real Housewives, I guess. But something about this is it's chilling because here's the Elmo. It's Elmo who is the Kyle Richards of Sesame Street. You know what I mean, Like you are that's our protagonist. Okay, So there's no way you don't love her. And it's not that you don't love Zoe, it's just this is what this is the way I'm observing the relationship. Zoe needs a lot of help. Kim. She needs a lot of help. She's struggling. She's Kim and she really there's a time to be there for your good sister, and then there's a time to be like I have to call out the reality right now and Elmo actually in being honest and not allowing her to live in this fantasy that the rock is gonna get eaten by rock or the cookies gonna eat the get eaten by the way. It's just so stupid. By when I can't even get it out, I can tell you're frustrated, girl, work through it with the people need to hear this. You have to create a boundary between a person that believes a rock is anthropomorphic. You have to period, what is that gonna be our first rule culture? Yes, it's ruler culture number forty six. You have to create a boundary with a person who believe believes the rock. The rock has a presence. Presence absolutely, that is what culture is built around. Can you imagine if we disagreed on this. I can't because you know why why You and I would never be Zoe to each other, or you and I would be almost to the other who was being a Zoe. I would hope you would be an Almo to me if I was talking so crazy that I said no, no, no, bowen and to get upset with you. You can't eat this, A rock is going to eat it. I hope you would be Almo to me in that situation, that circumstance. The line read of Elmo saying, he's yeah, it's panic, it's he's pissed off. Can we just say, like, I believe that things are going to come to blows? When I see that scene, I'm like, someone has to someone has to step in here. Where are the producers? Were are the producers? Bravo? Bravo, fucking Almo. Something is going on with Elmo and the culture. Just in joy, I would love for Elmo to come on the podcast. If Elmo came on and we just have a real conversation with him, but what exactly the deal is there because it seems toxic, unbelievably toxic. It's getting to him in terms of like he's now he's acting out on other TV shows like the whole balsamic vinegar thing on the Tonight Show is like, really, I don't know what's going on there. We won't be creative for you, but everyone should. Everyone should go look up Elmo pronouncing polsamic vinegar if you haven't already, it's he's, he's, he's he's unraveling. I think that it's best to turn our attention to the situation. And and because it's not him, it's the it's the people that he's around. It's very Truman Show. I think what's happening with Elmo because there are people there that allows Zoe to exist with just kind of spouting this conspiracy that Rocko the rock would need to be able to eat that cookie if you even wanted it. Oh my god, and we're talking about the feelings of a cookie. I mean there's a huge problem. That's like, what is that stage mom behavior, Zoe? What if Rocco doesn't want to be on camera. I think that even now you're you're going too far, You're going too far and even approaching the fact that that rock could have any feelings at all. And don't scare thank you and see, this is what I'm saying. Don't. I will always keep you on Earth, girl, girl, I will step in to say you are being crazy. And it doesn't matter if I'm looking around saying I don't like it here on Earth, you go No, honey, it doesn't matter you're staying. I have to tell you. I'm rewatching Jersey right now. A lot of old real house eyes in New Jersey, and I found the Everyone's like, what house life for you? What house if for you? I found Who are you? I'm Dolores, I am not familiar. I'm Dolores Catania. And all you have to do is watch and you've always been Renna though you you switch it. Can I tell you something, Arena? This is what Arinna does. If Zoe turns to Renna and says the rock, the rock is gonna eat the cookie, Here's what Renda does. Okay, and she goes to her girlfriends and it's like, you're not gonna believe what she's saying. Now she is gonna take it so far. And I would never do that. I would say to you as Alma, I'd be like, it's a rock. I don't know. The way the way Renna supported Erica through all of this makes me believe that if if Zoe were to go to Renna and was like, it's a rock, it's a it's a it's an anthropomorphic rock. This rock like wants to eat cookies, Brenna would be like, absolutely it does. Of course it does, Babe. I'm like, get out. We don't need that in the world. Stop. Stop, stops what you're doing right now. I have to tell you something. What you're giving me Erica with their yeah, what does that mean you're giving me? Or what? Or what what you're giving me in your new hair and your blonde, shocking hair, you actually give me powerful, dangerous Erica Jane energy because I thought to myself, if I'm Rna, then his bowen and then I had to gasp, had to go. I was afraid when I gasped, because I saw a newer We're not criminals. She created a caper. We are Meredith and Lisa. I don't know we're I think we're Erica and Renna. You're at Lisa because Lisa can't help herself and as someone who is ultimately so lovable and wonderful, and you have to watch. I I am fully team Lisa right now, but I'm Meredith, and that I am like probably a little crazy, even though I keep up like a cool demeanor, cool exterior, collected exterior. I had great And you'll all notice at home that we've sort of arrived at the topic of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And that was by design. That was that wasn't em I think we're naturally going from one subject, but in the naturalness of it that it was by design. Because here we are, and I want to say that Mary Cosby has left the world stage. So I just wanted to say as a book end, because we famously said, what day two of the twelve Days of Culture, Miriam Cosby February something, November something two, Miriam Cosby hits the world stage. It's the world stage sort of January left. She has decided to exit the world stage by not showing up to the Real House of Salt Lake City reunion. This news has hit the major media outlets, and I think that we can agree that Salt Lake the same. Because Ding Dong of the Witch is dead. We say, Ding Dong lost culture is just calling no Darling ding the way which is dead I had been saying. I mean, this is obviously satisfying for me as someone who's been saying for a while it's no longer been fun to watch her. What do you think Why do you think she decided not to come. I think because season she realized that she was going to basically be sat down and confronted about being a quote unquote racist in her case. I'm guessing like it's and about the church stuff. She's just she's just incredibly prejudiced person, and like she I think like she probably can't answer for the way that her church members are treated. She probably can't answer for almost anything she has said or done, all of which have been negative, because she acts as if she either is the most forgetful person in the world or that it's something to do with how ye're perceiving her. I don't know, I'm just literally blabbing on and on. But no, no, no, I'm very cosby. Like I mean, there's just every reason why she had to go. But I do think it's interesting that it really was us who sort of raised the flags for her in the first place. And really welcome to her into culture. And I think that there's a lot to examine in our Absolutely. I will also take some credit in us being some of the first, absolutely some of the first people to say, hey, there's something going on here. The tree is there, the tree is falling. Do you hear it? Do you hear it? And it's really important that we all agree that we did, because if one person says I didn't hear it, then all of a sudden, we're living in a world there's two realities because people they just they believe whatever they want to They believe whatever they want to believe. If someone says, I didn't hear that tree do a fully inaccurate, yet insane Asian accent impression, that really was something. Huh. It was kind of shocking. I'm not like shocked by that, ever, when someone does like, quote unquote an accent like that when they attempt to, but there was something so like, oh my god, you're gonna do that here. It was so it was so it was truly shocking. I mean, there's no other word for it. And I'm not terribly shocked. Usually, Yeah, it really was shocking. And I also think you'd have to believe so much about Mary's reality in order to buy anything she says, because she knows she's being put on camera, you know what I mean. Like, when she decides to do these things like, she does them, not just because she doesn't forget the cameras are around, She's thinking about what she's going to project, you know what I mean. Like, and the fact that she can so easily go these places just says to me, like, actually, this is a harmful person. This person doesn't care how people feel. She to me, is in her just social interactions, in the way that she manages conflict. Obviously someone who doesn't care about anyone other than herself. So if this is true, what else is true? She obviously is mistreating members of her church. You see what kind of person she is. She's a dangerous, toxic person who takes no accountability and will do anything to get just something she wants the w at the end of the day. And it's just like for me, she is you know, it was interesting to watch someone who is that sociopathic. But I'm good not doing it anymore. Exit Exit Mary, which is maybe that's time I love him to be honest. Speaking of dead, Oh wow, that could go into such a dark night. I just was I was literally just trying to make a stupid segue of the power of the dog. And then I did remember in saying it that so many iconic people have passed away, and I felt, no, it's a lot of a lot of people. Betty White, Oh my god, that one hurts. That one hurts. For some reason, there was a the algorithm gave me a YouTube clip that was Betty and Lucille Ball playing password together, and it was just like, Lucile doesn't give a ship and hates that she's there, but Betty is, like, it's crazy, how even on a game shot, like a stupid game show like that, she was like a fucking legend icon There's no overstating it. She No, she was, I mean, such a giant for such a long time, and you know, truly one of those people where across the bord appeal, you know what I mean, like one of those last messages of a time when that was even possible. And think about if you were a star that early on. And we know how far the entertainment industry has come and how far it still needs to go in terms of, like you know, the treatment of women, the treatment of so many people. She had to have seen so fucking much. She had to have truly survived a lot, and to have that many lives in this industry is like, so you know, unprecedented. I mean what she's started in like the forties, like like basically like right as Hollywood like became Hollywood did even like like you know, like maybe like twenty years ago, someone twenty years older than her, her senior like would have been there like as Hollywood was starting up, but like she kind of like got in right when it started to like be established in a way already. Does that make sense? I think she was the first woman to ep a television show. Wow. Yeah and she and yeah like and her earliest sitcoms were like just live TV because it was just like how TV worked back then. I mean, Betty Bob Sagett really shocked me. That was a bummer, um, like and talk about someone who, like, I mean, he was really talented because I think about like so many of the reasons why you fell in love with full House have to do with how sweet and gentle he was as a figure of fatherhood, and how patient he was and how communicative he was, and that was a really sweet show that succeeded so much due to his specific talent, and then to find out that he was so the opposite when he wasn't doing that to me, just that I don't know I did that. That's inspiring to me, Like someone who was able to really um channel different energies and just a great entertainer who like never got painted into a corner. I mean, like, yeah, you're right, Like it's not even about that, it's just about like someone who embodies two different, diametrically opposite things. Yeah, in terms of presenting themselves as an entertainer, and like he was just so good at both of those, which probably he was good at all of it. Yeah, he seemed very very well mannered to me, you know what I mean, Like he's like he knew that the full house thing was a joke. He just seemed like Sydney. I mean, Damn, I can't believe going through death. Nobody's been here. There's been a lot, and it's been a bummer, like and especially because it doesn't seem like, um, I don't think it's well know and it's also it's not people that pop culturally, you like barely knew you know, these are like legends and well defined people in the public consciousness, Like you know, Sydney Potter is a legend and I'm gonna say Joan Didian, like I just absolutely and like Babbit's like, I mean, there's got so many so many crazy not crazy, just like wild, shocking not shocking. I'm stone everybody, Um, just really like I don't know, sad sad departures. Yeah, did you watch Being the Product? You did? I did? Okay, what did you think of this film? Um? I think you and I share a lot of the same opinions that I actually didn't mind the writing. I thought the writing was very fun and buoyant for an Errand's working movie. The direction was the thing that was most confusing, because I was like just down to like, I don't notice direction that much, quote unquote the way that a lot of people do. Like I think you are someone who watched his film, and it is like whoa Like I can tell what the invisible hand here is. But I watched Being the Ricardo's and I was like, why the fund is he on a wide this insane wide of Lucy while she's just talking like dirty, like over the shoulder too you know, Javier, Like, I'm like, what is going on here? How did the movie? How did this movie come together? And like post you know that's the thing that is confounding me the best. Yeah. I think in terms of the direction that there was like half of it that I thought really worked. Like I ultimately walked away from that movie thinking it was a really smart, uh examination of a relationship, like a relationship study if you will. Um, I definitely like felt every beat of their relationships. So in that way, like in terms of how you tell a story, like I was getting that there were some choices of you know, shots or devices that I just thought, do we need this? Like and I'm talking about the entire device of the cutting back like from the interviews, so that I just did not think we needed that. And it was surprising because it's almost like there's a starter movie or a starter script that has that device and then at some point it gets taken away because you just simply don't need it. He's stuck with it the whole of the whole way through. Sure did and um, I don't think we needed that. And then there were some moments where I don't know and just because he wrote and directed it like I think you noticed this, and maybe it just doesn't get the note. But there's some things where I'm like, okay, so you're saying that the way. One of the ways we see she's a comedic genius is she knows to like flip the scene so that the comedy is facing the audience, like you know what I mean. Like, there's this big thing where she calls everyonmard to the studio and she's like, we're staging the dinner scene and she basically turns their chairs so she's like, actually, you're gonna face the audience when you do the bid and that will fix everything. And everyone's like, Lucy really are a genius And I'm sitting there like something better than this. Guy's something better than this. This is something that I that I think we notice as we watch more things is that it's very hard to call someone a comedic genius in a show or a movie and then exemplify it because it's it's just does that make sense? Like it makes sense? It's so hard when you're being told as an audience, remember that, um, this person is an icon and what they do. Yeah, not but specifically with comedy, yes, yes, like this person is the funniest, smartest person there ever was, and then you do it limited to the to like the restraints of like a film or a screenplayer, a teleplay, like it's just it's hard. I can't think of times when that's been done effectively. That being said, Nicole, Nicole was amazing, does command herself well to that. And I will say, ultimately, I actually really like this movie, and I think it would be really hard not to vote for her for Best Actress because she just the the order was so tall. I mean this, the odds were so stacked against her, and you leave that movie and you're thinking, Nicole Kimmant is a fucking star. And if I have one note for her, it's one that I saw pointed out which I can't stop thinking about now that I've thought out of it, is that when Lucy was performing, her eyes were bigger and more expressive, and there was just something internal that came out through her eyes that I wasn't necessarily getting with Nicole. That being said, she acted the funk out of that script and gave you her speaking voice and gave you so much against everyone saying she was the worst choice for Rice. So I respect the house down, we love her, we love Nicole Kittman here. Um I didn't. I never watched Child in Chicago seven. I didn't see Molly's Game either. But I feel like I like Sorkin movies where it's about relationships instead of about a person. Like Steve Jobs. I don't remember a single thing about that movie because it's about like how Steve Jobs was an egomaniac, and like it wasn't about his the way he related to other people, and that's why, like it just doesn't register to me. But like Social Network is one of my favorite movies absolutely because it's about how this person is an egomaniac but is so bad at interacting with every single person who cares about him, you know. Like that, I like that that movie also had an incredible director. And that's not saying that Aaron Sorkin isn't a good director, because I think there's a lot of what he does that is effective. But some scripts, I think I would have just really been interested to see what another director could have done with this script, you know what I mean? Like I don't know I took I took issue at first with them the day sex Machina thing, in the end of Jay Grew Hoover calling, but apparently that actually happened. It don't actually happened. But also there is something in that day sex Makina like that in the way it feels in the moment, yeah you do, you are like a little bit like yeah, yeah, But I don't know. I loved, I loved, I didn't love. I really enjoyed it. I like I put it on because during when the virus was like peeking in me, I was like, I might as well watch this movie. And I really enjoyed it. I thought there was a lot of love. I love Nina Arianda and as of yes, mean is wonderful or as Vandvance who played Ethel, but she she was amazing. I mean j K. Simmons was great, like and fucking Javier bar Dam was great, wonderful, wonderful. But we we have talked about power of the dog. We have talked about power of the dog. Let's talk about power of the dog. Girl. See, this is the thing is it's like this is written and directed by Jane Campion, and that woman knows how to draw a fucking line through a story, and like, so I love this and from the very first moment that the when the when the screen cuts the black and the score begins that like it sounds like it sounds like a rope is being tightened, Like, oh, I didn't think that, and I'm this is I'm up to twice. But when I'm in my set in the middle of my second time watching it, it's better. The second time is brilliant. So like the tension starts right away, and then he has that voiceover. First of all, Twink doesn't even begin to describe him like he's more than that. He is super Twink. He's murdered Twink. He's murdered Twink. But I think he's I think he's not even like Twin. I think there's something, there's another there's something we're missing here. But keep going. Well, he is, he's impact. So he says in the opening monologue, he goes, it's my job to protect my mother. What kind of man would I be if I didn't protect my mother? Or what kind of sun would I be if I didn't my mother? Something like that. So and then the movie starts, and from this when you know what happens in the movie and how the plot unfolds, This is a brilliant script. This is a brilliant movie, like Jane Campion and and just talk about like a tall order in terms of direction, those scenes with the cattle, the atmosphere, the fact that they felt like the only people in the world the whole movie, like the vastness of the where they live, but also the small, intimate nature of the house. Like the perform says, you and I re enacted, We're not going to do this. Well, we can if you want, but you and I reenacted Kirston at the piano because that is I see, I've forgotten how to play Kirston deserves it is her time. It is her time. I was listening to her own Fresh Air today and this is like from an episode weeks ago, but like it just her her process with this movie is she's being so generous with like what she's telling you know, what she's saying in interviews about like how she approached this character. I'm learning so much and does that so stupid? I know about like what when it I just just how someone does their job effectively. Just in general, she's she's giving a glimpse into her process. It's she's so good in this it's crazy. Yeah, you've mentioned the dream work that she says she does. I think that's fascinating, and you know, like just the relationship she discusses having on set with Benedict, who I did drag did I don't think so, Honey for being um, you know method on set to the point where he didn't shower and had to keep away from everyone on set. But I think Kirsten wanted was avoiding him. I think that she was really smart and the way she played it where it's just atmospherically, she was not allowing him into her space so that when she saw him, he was truly imposing and scared her and made her anxious. And it reads so clearly like how trapped this woman is and how steadily more trapped she feels throughout the movie. I'm telling you that ropes out the score. Yeah, the score should win the just how tight they make the atmosphere feel for her, because the movie is about her anxiety. The movie is about how she is a she is a like about to burst, she was about to break. Yes, the way the scene is cut together, I guess, I mean, if I can tell that it's like really good direction on the same token is like if I can tell that it's bad direction, then it's bad. If I can tell, if I can tell it's good, it's good because I'm stupid. The scene where she's practicing the piano as he's playing the banjo, I'm like, this is incredible, just so scary, and she's and they're both performing it so well. Yeah. Oh, She's like, look, it looks so weak at the piano, not weak, but just like vulnerable, and she's just like trying to like learn this defeat defeated. I mean, I mean like she she truly you genuinely. I mean, the movie doesn't work if it's not a battle for her life. So it's like, you know, her son and her new brother in law are like literally at the end of the movie, basically faced with they're on different sides of the agreement of whether she should be happy or unhappy, and you know what I mean, like and just the way that the ending unfolds. Cody Smith McPhee. He's been winning everything in terms of the critics awards, Like he I mean, this is a performance you will always remember. You will never forget him in this movie, Like it's just a boy, You'll never forget. The hula hooping. The specificity of that decision, like so much of it was so like he made little paper flowers, do you know what I mean? Like, I'm just like, this movie is his movie is about a fagot. It is a faget and the women they worship. Yes, honey, a fagot and his mother. That's what's what should be called? Is that I how to a fagot and his mother? Faggot? It should be called Power of the Dog and his Mother. Oh my god, we'll be getting so much trouble. No, let's do it. Anyways, that movie was something. I need to watch it again. I've been meaning to um Jesse too. Jesse was great, Oh fab Jesse Plemons is he's such a good actor. I mean just everyone from top to bottom. But I'm telling you, like just this every decision that they made, and I love when the score really feels atmosphere like and that's so it's it's such an amazing tool that I wish more movies would get more risky with in terms of how to um strengthen the story. Like I just it's I don't know, I just love that element of it all. Did you feel as though the Lost Daughter gave you as much excitement and passion. I was very anxious. Another movie about anxious woman. It is anxious times. It is anxious times, and literally Final Fantasy fourteen is about like the world ending, and it in a way that it's so like visceral and scary, not like oh Apocalypse anyway. I'm just saying like there's just a lot of like anxious content out there. I tried. I tried to start Station eleven, and I just need to I just need to go back to it at some point. But I know it's brilliant and I know it's wonderful and that and Tira Mariah is the genius, but I need to just like not watch that, especially after having watched Don't Look Up. Um okay, but sorry, Lost Daughter. I really enjoyed it, loved I loved it. I felt like I was Dakota at the end, you were Dakota. She she just is my favorite type of character in the film. Yeah, angry hot girl. She was gorgeous in that. She was so beautiful in it. It was so shocking and like, yes, you get it because Olivia Coleman is there and you're like, yeah, that is the girl. You stare out at the beach that is the girl, like you know, and then when she comes over and is like giving her attention, It's like it is a little like part of me was like a little like it was like a little psycho sexual for me. I was like, I was like living. I really enjoyed. I'm sorry, I'm just repeating myself. But like the so apparently the end ending is different from the book. Huh. So in the end she like spoiler alert, Oh people make it mad. Well, I just let me just say that the endings are different, um, but that the dull missing really was giving me anxiety up to up to the Favorite Pitch and in the in the in the climb, and just in the in the sort of ending moments of the movie. Well, something really smart that I thought that Maggie Gillenhal did in order to create tension and like irritation in every scene is in the In this Anatomy of Seeing that that I watched on YouTube, she was talking about how like the crying of the babies, like the volume was never lowered, so like in the scenes where like this the girls around and crying, you hear it the whole time because it's like really important in the movie that you understand like what it genuinely is to be around a child and the responsibility of being like sort of like irritated by that noise, but responsible for that noise. May never want to have a child. And I think that that was just I think Maggie Jillen Hall fucking knocked this out of the part. She is amazing and I can't wait to see more from her as a as a writer and director. I mean, come on Slam, which she wrote. Yes, it's based on it's based on novel. But I mean, so she's she's probably what's what else is adapted going to be? She's certainly getting a words attention. Yeah, I think I think she will be nominated west Side will be nominated for adapted of course. Yes, well, she has the Best Director nomination from the Golden Globe Awards. She didn't win, but she is, like in that conversation. But in terms of adapted screenplay, yeah, I mean I think Power of the Dog is winning. Oh it was a book. Yeah, Oh I didn't. Oh that's right, I knew this. I knew this. Yes, yeah, so it's an adapted screenplay but anyway, um, yeah, and then original is interesting. I mean, Don't Look Up is definitely in that kind presition, as is being the Ricardo's what did you feel about Don't Look Up? People are polar raw polarized. I didn't hate it because I was led to believe that it was like one of the worst films ever made. But but then we're talking about online. I watched it and the only big thing that bumps me out is, well, you know, it's that thing where I hate This sounds so annoying, but you know, it's like people say, like satire is not effective. Saturny is like a clarity of purpose and a clear target. Otherwise it just contributes to the thing that it's trying to satirize. I think that's textbook what this movie kind of like falls into, where it's like it's being very cynical about the cynicism of people, like and the way it shows people cynicism is very cynical, and so therefore it just contributes to the cynicism. And so you watch the movie and you're supposed to and I know you're supposed to feel like really bummed, like bummed oo, but um, I just think there was no like the way it was a political to me, made it have note teeth, and I think I'm sure it wasn't Anima Kay's decision. I'm sure he got notes where it was like you can't alienate like a political party here. But performances were fun. Um totally, it was kind of a mess, Like I kind of I think I really enjoyed the parts were like it felt like a broad comedy, like when are like during orian a song and like the lyrics being so ridiculous. I'm like, see, like now it feels like an old Adam McCay movie that I love to watch, And why can't it be more like that instead of this, like I don't know, um dramatically or just totally tense, convoluted thing. Yeah, I think that it could have like basically, you'll agree with me when I say it just didn't really have any heart, and so that made it hard. And I completely understand in a script where you know, characters are that cardboard, where that would be fine and like, you know, we could sort of move through this as a satire. But I also thought that there were moments where we could have cared about the characters, or maybe they wanted us to care about the characters and I just never got there for any of them. I think by the numbers, I think that script like it definitely did what it was setting out to do. It definitely made, you know, made me think yes. But also these are things, of course I've already thought about a million times. I feel like we've made this assessment before. But that could just be because the media landscape is different now, and we feel like Twitter, you know, it's so hard to be on top of it that it was just kind of impossible for this movie to be like exactly on the nose, like nailed it um and so, you know, admirable try. But the thing is, I guess I just wish I cared more about the characters ultimately, because I certainly was laughing. I mean, maybe it could have been just a punched up a little bit, but I definitely thought a lot of it was funny. I mean when they when they made big choices, like, I was down for it. I just wonder if there's a fucking incredible movie like hidden somewhere. I know there, I'm sure there was. Weirdly, like, my favorite scene was like Leo and Cape Lan chat like talking postcoital that first time. Yeah, Okay, let's like share details about I mean, like yeah, like that's like why that Why is that coming like an hour into the movie or whatever? Like why can this have been much sooner? I know a single thing about Leo's character. It was forty minutes too long, too, Yeah, And I mean that's pretty much a note I have for almost everything is forty minutes too long. That's the number it really is for you. And it's giving forty even for the TV shows, the proportion it doesn't proportionize, it's still forty minutes. Well. This is another thing I wanted to say, is just like when I when I think about like like film versus TV, it's like I thought, don't look up. Yeah, I was like, it's a good satire. Then I watched starch Party season five. That that is a brilliant I mean, it honestly not made me like don't look up less. But I just compared them as satires of our culture. And maybe because like Search Party has been able to examine more and get more specific about what they're doing, they're able to achieve it in a much better way. But I just thought that dwarfed Don't look Up as a satire. This last season do you know about it? I know about it. I have not started yet because I have just been very busy, too busy, and that's not a good enough excuse as a true Search Party stand hosted the podcast less did I wanted to, like, I want to really sit with it. Yeah, it just fucking knocked it out of the park. I think they made insane choices, but and I was like, this is people who are decidedly not third graders, but didn't forget their inner third grader. They made things happen on this show. This show went for it, like you can't even fucking imagine it becomes a different genre. It's truly thrilling. But that's what Search Party is always that, that's the beauty of Search Party. It seemed as genres every fucking season. Yes, well they just did it again and then like on top of it all being as inventive and creative and hilarious as they are. Like the performances are again amazing. I mean, fucking Aliyah shock Cat should be nominated for an Emmy for this. And like John Earl and Meredith Hagner, these performances are amazing. John Reynolds like across the board, like these they're fucking crushing it. I mean, John is so funny on it, Meredith Hagner is so incredible on that show, and it's just thematically. It fucking fucking nailed it as a series finale. And I'll just say, without giving away too much, like this is the big conversation about spoiler culture, about when is it okay? Like when is it okay to talk about search Party? I don't know, Yeah, I I really don't know. And this is the conversation. You're right, not ya, but we won't but we won't spoil it here. We won't spoil it here. I just I'm over the moon about it. And shout out to Greta, shout out to Larry, shout out to Joe Castle Baker, shout out to Grace con Schmidt, shout out to like so many people on that fucking cast that nailed it. I mean, it was just so good. Josh Sharp, oh my god, was amazing in it. Like, just you gotta watch Jires, Jeffrey self. I literally I am obsessed with the show. Oh, okay, amazing. It is such an incredible show. And like I do think, I do think Charles and SBR geniuses. I mean true geniuses. It's just wild. Yeah. Can I just quickly say euphoria is off to really the more anxiety content. It's just the whole episode of his anxiety. It's it's almost like it's always been gratuitous. It's always you could argue been about style of a substance in a way, and like that's fine. The fact that you still get these amazing This is the thing I want to put an out about Ehooria in my mind is that it is it is a show that you watch and you go, I don't remember anything that's happened, but I remember all these people, which is to say that the writing and the storytelling is not super strong and has been called week I think. But meanwhile, in spite of that, all the actors have incredible performances, and I think that is still a show that it's absolutely a show worth watching. And then like all these people like you know, like I think their household names at this point in household but like you knows. And by the way, oh my god, Sydney is one of one of the greats. I mean, I think she's been anointed, but like I mean, White Lotus, I was like, oh my god. Yeah, that's the that's like the quiet, shy girl from Euphoria. She's but after White Lotus, I was like, Okay, great, Like I loved that character of that performance. She does something. She does so many things in this first episode of this season that I'm like, Jesus Christ, absolute star, um. You will hate it because there's just a lot of violence and like it starts out in like a very Scorsesey way and it kind of maintains that throughout the rest of the episode, where there's just a lot of like violence and drugs and like just like crazy ship and it's hard to watch. Honestly. Yeah, I don't know. I I feel like, my my, I will watch it and I will check it out. But it's just like, like you've been saying, like so much of media is anxious lately that I'm just like, I think that's why I gravitate towards a lot of lighter things, just because I like so many I don't want to add anxiety into my plate. But I'm saying even like and just like that is anxiety content now because with what I'm saying, it's like every scene is like I hope I don't say the wrong thing. Or do the like and even also even that show is killing and destroying. Yes, oh, death is suffering everywhere, killing and destroying, like Frieda suffered, but it's still that bitch. That isn't just like that Carry Bradshaw. She has suffered and she is still that girl. Should the title be she has suffered and she is still that girl? I think we need some context. So either it's power of the dog a Faget his mother, or it's Frieda she has suffered, Frieda Colin. She has suffered, but the episode is not about freed to. The episode theme is she has suffered and she is still that girl. Fine, okay, yes, you're right, you're right. I love that as a long title for us. Yes, yes, yes, she has suffered and she is still that that's us because it's not thank you for making me, and she's still instead of but she is still because it's not in spite of something. It's in addition to mama and maybe even a direct result. Honey, darling, deer, let me tell you something. Tell me what doesn't kill you makes you strong? Doesn't when alone? Girl, I think it's time to move on. I'm looking at my list here, like, what did we miss like, Oh, I didn't tell you I watched all of Ted last with my parents, just kidding. Yes I did. I'd meant I didn't tell the readers. I did. I love that show. Have you watching Project Runway? I haven't, but I heard about this house I cha this season is amazing and the housewives were on a challenge. And I've never screamed before at a Project Runway, um final runway, but I was screaming up off my feet, screaming the housewives and the and the and the way that they wore them. Who was there? It was Wendy, Giselle, It was Wendy, Giselle and Karen from it was Sharence Storms and um Gina from which, by the way, I started watching o C and I'm obsessed. And they picked two good ones and from New York it was Leah and Lou and so was all of them. And then I have to tell you the way that Giselle and Lou looked on the runway, and also Shannon, like bo when you and look good, they looked amazing. They looked amazing. This is the to have the potential of Giselle. If you put her in good clothes, she wore this. Like, I'm telling you you have to watch the episode. Everyone just watched the episode of Project Runway this season with the Housewives, even if you don't watch it. If you do, you know this season is I'm yeah, please, like it is so so good. I personally am team Chastity, but I also think that Chantelle might win. Okay, but and but those are my predictions. But anyway, this episode was absolute fire and Wendy gets into it with one of the contestants, Christina. I said, Dr Wendy, I don't know, No, we have to. She's a former guest. I mean, I stand by her. But that got there for me where I was like, oh, no, is there going to be conflict on the episode between the housewife and the designer? And there was and it was our girl, Dr Wendy. But I think I agree with her. Okay, And that's that's all that matters. All right. Let me see what do we think of them? What do we think of drag Race? Oh well, obviously we're team Willow Pill and team corn Read absolutely. I mean just already the Runaway stars. Were there any other contestants? Bosco is going to be interesting. I think definitely he's of interest of interest. Um, but Cornbread is a superstarread is narrating already, like getting so much praise. She she has it all. Willow Phill maybe a comedic icon. Someone said this in the group chat the other night. But the fact that Willow Hill posts like quality means on her stories means means good thing means that. Yes, Joe and Booster said that, and I mean I think I have. There hasn't been an entrance in a while that has stuck with me this way where am I the angle shirt and the fact that that's how she came into the world. And then you remember, remember the remember the part where like in the workroom and in the beginning where like her sunglasses kept falling off. If you go back and watch that, it's really funny. The first time that happens, she goes, oh shit, like she says, oh ship and the funniest way. I'm just I'm obsessed with her. I rewatched her talent like five times. Yeah, yeah it is so I don't know, it's insane. It's almost like a comedy person like hacked drag Race, like like a genuine like someone you would see at the annoyance theater. I think Dave Mazzoni said that, Yeah, it's very annoyance. It's very annoyance theater like Brooklyn or Chicago, whichever you choose. Like I'm like, wow, I'm like, I love and then I think god Rule loves it, loves it. But like, if you go and look at Willow Hills stories, she's she's a funny motherfucker just posting like crazy filters on her face be and then just the caption being I did weed She's she makes me like there hasn't been this. This is my complaint about drag Race for the longest time. In the last few seasons, I'm like, there hasn't been someone that I'm like, I want to hang out with them, Yeah, I want to. I want to, Like I look up to them in a way, Like I think back on like season five and I'm like, I looked up to all of these girls, being like I want to like be more like James Monsoon, I want to be more like Alaska. Like there hasn't been that girl in a while for me. I know, I know, But with Willow, she's sucking six and I'm like she I have things to learn from her. Absolutely, absolutely. I just I don't know. I was so transported when she did that number, and I'm so happy they let them use that and your song, you know what I mean, Like I was just so taken back to a time when I don't know, like we used to watch freak performances like that, we used to do like that was the era. Yeah, anyway, very yeah, there's like a d I y. I don't know if that's the right worry way to put it. What else? Oh, we watched Free Guy. Oh my god, here's get this. Matt and I got really stoned in c DMX with Sudie and Mo. By the way, there's been mo erasure on the socials. Fry Passic, previous guest of the show was there with us. Yes, um, we got stoned one night and watched Tree Guys starting Ryan Reynolds and Jody Comber and Take Awaitt and we loved and we loved it. Your girl was crying. I was crying at the end. Jody Comber and the dude from Stranger Things made me cry. They made me cry, chunky tears. No one was really selling it out, you know, like it's a very like big budget, like it's a Sean Leeby film. I tend to like Sean Leeby films. I kind of love Date Night as a movie and at the Museum, I confess I haven't seen any of that, but this movie I was just like, it just felt like really smart, really smart. It took a second for us to like buy into the logic of the of the World directorial Lee. I think it would have been helpful to see them speaking in their your live bodies to the screen a couple, just to get across that that was how they were communicating with them. But last Ryan, you said something about Ryan that I so agree with. You were like, he is such an effective comedic performer. He's just the best. I mean, he's so specific in his movements, the way he knows just how to be on camera. He is just an incredibly like like he's just a ten out of ten movie actor movie, you know what I mean. He's just like he's always going to get across the right emotion. He is just dependable. He's funny, he's super cute, and he seems like he has a lot of energy, Like he gives a lot of energy to every take. And he's just I mean, he's one of our best first he's one of our best like I told you, right, like Just Friends, he has to do so he has a very hard job to do on Just Friends. He's one of the actors out there who's super handsome, and so he doesn't get a lot of the credit for doing this comedy. Yes, the wheneber times we've talked about the proposal and sort of brushed past Ryan as criminal. We should be putting in the institutions. Now he's just he's supposed to be on the institution. Okay, I'm saying we should be put in the institutions for erasing him. So we need to be put in institutions for racing him, and he needs to be one of the instant the institutions. And I think that that is as good as you can possibly say it. Thank you girl, Erica Jane, Erica Jane. Sorry. Should we move on? Yeah, let's move on. Okay, this is I don't think so, honey. This is our segment where were one minute to tackle something in culture or something that's really fruiting our loops and I have something to have something, you know I do. Okay, here we go. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many his time starts. I don't think so, honey, of the Golden Globes um tweeting out the winners and whoever they hired to do that and be in charge of that process. I believe one of the tweets said, laughs are all it takes, and that's my West Side story. When's best musical comedy. It's like, it's like, maybe just make sure that before it gets I don't know, tweeted out. It makes sense, like in terms of like the fucking sheet you filled that the dragon drop thing you did for whoever Twitter, I don't think so, honey. Also just trying to make it sound like announce just we're saying it was simply embarrassing, Like here's what you do. Put the winner in big font and put the category on little fun. We have the information, we got it, We'll take care of the celebration. I don't think so, honey, that you need to monitor and present in this way. I understand that tweets should be funny, but when you're the Golden Globes, it's like, just get the information out there, you know what I mean. We've kind of had enough of like what your personalities are, so I don't something so honey, and that's one minute. Thank you for addressing this the tweet. I believe I will also I'm also paraphrasing, but I was if laughter is the best medicine, then West Side That at West Side Story the movie is the cure for what ails you like it's so funny. I think that is one of the That is one of the more iconic tweets of the last several years. If you over the last five years of watching the Oscars and the Golden Glooms haven't gotten it in your head that it is all such like they're so stupid, then I don't know what to do, because yes, of course they're fun to watch and you know, like sort of guess about and they're fun to follow. But when you watch a ceremony where they can't announce the right winner, wrong names of presenters are being said, like this tweet thing is happening, like you find out about the lack of diversity, and like the fact that it's it is what it is, like the bullshit gets unveiled about Harvey y Stein, like you we have to be able to laugh at this ship. It is such a circle jerk, but it is fun. It is fun to follow. I guess I am just I was about to say like a similar thing to what I was gonna say to what I said about and just like that where I'm like, I do miss the days when I didn't know all that. Yeah, when like I did take it seriously and now there's no going back. But that's because we got older and learned more. Yeah, I have something. I love to hear that you have something. My phone is over there. I'm just gonna grab because I don't want to make my sister, who I'm very afraid of, because you should literally see them right now. They like Erica Jane Girardi. They look like Erica Girardi. Literally the house down the way. They're looking at it right now. I'm gonna get my phone. Get your phone. Okay, hopefully he doesn't kill me. Um, okay, I have the clock up. Do you have your I don't think the funny topic I do. I love that this is things I don't think so honey, his time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Licorice pizza using being the latest thing to like use an Asian accent as a play for laughs. Like, I get that all of the adult male figures in this movie are supposed to be like ridiculous and despicable and he should not want to be like them, and that all of his adult male figures in his life are like awful people. But the fact that this was used as a runner is what kind of gets to me the most. Like there was there at least two times when it came back, like or when it was like a beat where like he's trying to speak an Asian gibberish language to like his new Japanese wife. It's like that bullshit thing of like everyone thinking that like Asian people are the last race you can make fun of. I will. I'm here to say that the thing that white people are the least creative about, the number one thing they're the least creative about, it is Asian jokes. It is joking or making light of Asian people in the way they talk and the way they look. Like it's enough enough, let's just like move past. This is not to be all like hashtag stop Asian hate has up in one minute, yes, but yes, but like it's just like why are we It's taking me out of it and why can't I just enjoy Danielle Hime's exquisite acting as a supporting character, and of course Allana is amazing. I was just like kind of like I hate to be like Asian Police, but I kind of was like in my chair at the theater, like, well that sucks, and now I have to like spend the next fifteen minutes like re calibrating to this because I got so thrown by that by fucking John Michael Higgins doing that insane thing. I don't know if it was I don't know if it was p T. I don't know if it was John Michael Higgins. I don't know. I mean, like they like cast the fun these fucking Japanese people to be in it, and like this was very intentional and like this is like very specifically executed, and I'm like, okay, well, I don't know if it's a good enough reason that like p T a grew up in l A with Japanese restaurants in his life. Like I don't know, I don't know. I love him as a director. I think I really enjoyed the movie. It just really was this thing that like kind of like soured the whole thing for me. I don't know. Yeah, one of our friends like it's later bird but for boys or like said that, I mean I like it as a coming of age movie. Yeah great. I just it was this thing where like I hate that it's being played for last in this way like I don't think it's an accident that I think like PTO probably was like, yeah, let's do it, let's roll, like, let's this is what I want. Okay, cool cut, let's move on, like he was very okay with it in a way that I'm like, that sucks anyway. I haven't wanted to see it because of that, because of the central relationship, like like an upset to that, Like it doesn't upset me. It just like why is she twenty four? And within? Like do we need that for the story? I don't. I have to. I should see it. I definitely should see it, but all I know is like everything I hear about it, I don't love. Okay, Yeah, it is a great moment to see the hid sister is sort of act down that I would love to see more of them film. We need for the success. We need the on screen. We need the mon screen. Benny Safty iconic legend. We loved did we love Bradley? We loved Bradley Cooper, Bradley was funny. Bradley was funny. But again, like Bradley, Bradley is like sort of, I don't know, portrayal of masculinity is like very specific to that era, and I don't know that it's like specific to that era that like John Michaelhiggins would be like someone who's like, I don't know, I'm I'm just like literally, Matt, there's like like for at least like three exchanges, Like it's John Michaelhiggins and his wife talking to the main character's mom who is like trying to like write copy or something for their restaurant, and he's translating to her and like speaking this like psycho Japanese gibberish. And then like three like like three lines later, the moms like what is she saying? Or what are you saying? And he goes, oh, I have no idea, I don't know the language. I'm like, what the fuck why are we doing this? There' that's not that's not a snap it's not it's not like it's a snapshot of the era. It's not like it's I don't know. It's not like it's saying that something universe little universal about adulthood or masculinity. It's like it's just in essence, an Asian joke. Baldly put out, there is an Asian joke. Yeah, that's very odd. Anyway, Well, listen, I think that we have an enemy of the Oscar Race and Thomas Anderson. It's Paul Thomas. It's pizza and it's like crish pizza. And this year we're setting our crosshairs on you. You're going down readers and publicists. Your job not like licorice pizza deal. Get the word out there. We don't like it. Do it or you're fired. Sink this film in the Oscar Race. Now, get out there and do it. The Oscar Race is what everyone cares about. It's the only real thing in this town. Fuck it up for us, now, I decree. And that's more than say. To decree is more than saying it's a real culture. Number is more more than say, girl, the power you are sitting in is really really beautiful. Whatever are we in? Not charsards but corn silk, corn silk, girl, girl. I just am excited to go into this year with you for another year of culture, talking to guests and we have some fun guests coming, and to really react to the news of the day. I can't wait to just sit back and see what happens next in this crazy world of lost culture. Stus. We end every single episode of our long running show with a song I can't think of anything. You're simper all the best you need. Then then no one, anyone, Oh your Ben, We're right