Let's go, Atsuko! And by "let's go" we mean "THANK YOU" for being on this episode of Las Cultch with Matt & Bowen. What a time it is! Discussed: being in an Android-iPhone relationship, centering Jonah Hill, Atsuko's mentor and director Tig Notaro, The White Lotus and Big Italian Emotion, funeral culture in the east vs. west, having "range" vs. being "singular", portraying sing-talky villains, "crossover culture" in the form of a Snoop Dogg and Red Hot Chili Peppers concert, Pop Up Video, the stigma and anxiety around the words "Disney adult", how the Ticketmaster of it all is a "country-pop problem", finding love and friendship, and sweepstakes culture being fake as hell. Also, Atsuko describes cultivating her incredible HBO comedy special The Intruder, her colorful and vibrant aesthetic, working with Tig and Mike Birbiglia to bring the story of The Intruder to life, and being responsible for the phenomenon that is "The Drop". You can watch The Intruder NOW on HBO via HBO Max and you absolutely SHOULD. What a star! xo
Look man, oh I see you? Why why and look over there? How is that culture? Yes, goodness, ding dong les cultures is calling very loose energy today. Whores hoors on the holiday, whores on holidays, roam about Rome, about Roman holiday. But Roman dropped the gy you know what I'm saying, not roaming Roman, hors on the holidays, horse on the holidays, Romana. So it's great to lend on a title event before we've even said a single thing thing ourselves each other. Really well, here's the sort of thing I love recording in person. I love recording in person really brings out the energy, it really does. And so the second we sort of got together today, well, the first thing we did was we we slowly walked together up the steps of the Great I Heart Radio Building, which is what this building is called. And we saw our guests and we were immediately hit with um the energy of talent, the energy of wisdom, charm of I'm going to say, influence, extreme influence. This person has moved armies, powerful woman, moved armies down, moved armies down. And we have to say, then there was that thing that happens that always makes you really scared, which is an android got dropped. Our guest is married to a lovely man. He has an Android. He dropped his android when he went to go hug Matt and then Matt. Somehow the conversation went to who gives off an iPhone vibe? Who gives off an android vibe? Matt says that I give off an android vibe, which is a little you immediately you don't know me at all. First of all, that's a damn lie. Second of all, you didn't let me explain why I thought that, Which is I think you give off confident all to energy, Which is I think that you are like sort of confident enough as a woman in tech that you could have an Android phone and be like, Yeah, I have an Android. Asked me one question about it, I'll blow your mind. Ask me a question here, I'm gonna pretend I'm gonna drag right now. You ask me a question of about android and only answer Okay. What I would ask is um, But doesn't it bother you that like when when you're on a group text with a bunch of iPhone people. No, not at all, because I'll just do like we chat or I'll do what's app um start we chat. My Chinese is showing I, you know what, I have a little bit. I'm honestly toyed with Android. I know you have the rhyme. There's a little internal rhyme right there. Toyed with Android. And not that I don't love Apple, but every now and then I go, well, they're doing some interesting things over there. So you sometimes think about flirting with betrayal. I sometimes think about that was a gorgeous set in flooring with betrayal. So you sometimes think about floating with thetrayal. I think it's a very interesting I'll turn of and I think that's what it is. I think that's what it's been marketed as for so long. We don't have to actually get into this. We don't have but don't do anything. But you don't understand. I used to be on tech news all the time in college, and then something happened where two paths diverged in a would and I feel like things got really sucked up into like cryptoculture or something. And that's when I was like, I'm disengaging. And now all this crazy ship is coming out about this some Sam Bank been freed guy, which we don't have to get into that I heard all about it. But it's so crazy. It's like Elizabeth Holmes meets Bernie made Off meets Firefested in a way. There's like a polyquel in the Bahamas. There's um this guy Chempan Jao and who's this like Darth Vader to his Luke Skywalker. But there's a crazy story here. Well you know what, it's giving what Jonah Hill's next Oscar play? And I've already campaigned to be c Z the Asian guy. He's like, who fucking leaked? Who kind of exposed him for all his worth? And I see you nominated for supporting supporting, Yeah, because isn't the story about SPF or whatever it was about? What if it was not about SPF and it was about me, it could be about you. It just feels like the story is once again centering a white narrative. That's really what I have. That's my biggest problem is I'm constantly centering Jonah Hill. You are on this podcast. I am constantly making it all about Jonah. I'm getting him Prestesian Awards. Whatever. Jonah did something not a lot of others, which was what is transition from the Alison Jones pool of casting into prestige. Is that where he came from? I think he was in Allison Jones. I was just watching an interview with Aubrey Plaus because I was like, deep, I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed. I'm deep. I'm deep in a white lotus rabbit hole. As we all are a culture. And I was telling our guest about I was like, you should watch. And there's a rumor that the third season takes place in Asia. Really yeah, I have on good authority that it's going to take place in Asia, which makes so much sense. Like I think Mike White really is nailing like Italian cinema so well, and you were going to be giving? Is it going to be giving like one car? But I don't know it's gonna be giving. There's there's obviously gonna be some Asian influence, and I don't know what it looks like. Could be giving Rastraman, could be giving Kurasawa. Absolutely, But I'm saying, like, I trust Mike White to respectfully research the aesthetic, and I think he would pull it off. He's a genius, you know, he's fab I also think, you know, taking it back to Aubrey Plaza, which I am want to do anyway, the Aubrey Pasa thing. She got plucked out of the pool from Alison Jones. Jones, who was casting director, one of the great casting directors, and guest star of Barry and guest star Amazing Turn and Barry, which was on HBO. Not to be gross, but like, because I think you've met with her once, right, I've actually never met with her, but assumed. I don't think you ever actually met. But she knows. She knows me because she was casting Q Force. Right. I sat down with her one time years ago, and I was like, I don't think I was weird enough for her. You weren't though you were weird enough. I think you were too cool. I think not even cool. I was just normal. I probably was too normal. And I know that that's not like a pejorative or anything, but I just I think she casts a type so well and I don't. I don't think I fit into that, which I'm totally fine with. She obviously knows what she's doing. I think I can't believe we're talking about Alice. I think you're freaking weird, and I would cast you think I'm weird, and we're both I think We're all weirdos in this room, including Bahed. I think everyone here is a damn freak. Okay, So putting Jonah Hill aside, which I'm really sad about. You hate to put Jonah Hill Culture number six Matt Roger put Jonah Hill aside because I just there's so much to say, there really is. But I our guest, this is one of the greats. This is one of the people that are unforgettable. This is truly, I mean cross media, Oh my god, this is a trend setter. Literally literally if you even know what it means to do the partition slash yance drop, this guest gave you that. This guest gave you that and brought communities together. And now that the cast of Hamilton's was not a community before the Drop Challenge. No, in fact, they were at each other's throat. They were they hated each other. Well, every Broadway cast is at each other's throats. That's actually really could number four teen. Every Broadway cast at each other's throat, as alcast did it, and they needed that community at each other'sroats until the Drop Challenge period. So basically what we're saying is now that influence is becoming an even wider influence because you wanted to say, like, oh, the person who started the drop challenge is this incredible stand up and now it's so perfect, the timing is so well aligned. She's got a special coming out an HBO December tenth, The Intruder, directed by Technatarobe unbelievable, beautiful trail or beautiful set. We'll get into that. I mean, the aesthetic is strong. Absolutely, this is a true visionary, such a fun original voice. You don't throw that word around that much anymore original whatever you don't, I don't throw around original, not that either of us our authorities on those things. Can I say something? I don't really throw words around anyway. That's so true. I would never disrespect the word. You were so intentional with your words sentence. I would never disrespect a word. It's amazing. Let's sit in that three seconds. Please, Welcome to Lost Culture podcast. Oh my gosh, it was so riveting to just be in here while you all were talking, and I was trying not to give away even my voice, but you really did you? Really? You really? I couldn't I just let out let out during the Jonah Hill. I just couldn't. I lost it and you know your husband is here, but he opted to sit outside the recording because he has no self control. He would be wailing and screaming. He would, Yeah, he would. I mean with the Android the content that alto, I feel like I'm gonna go and tell him that's what he is. That's what he is. Are you Android? No, I'm not. But he takes all my social media photos and stuff. Honestly, the pictures do look better the cameras cameras. I mean, I phone always like catches up to pixel or catches up to like the Android stuff and the Samsung stuff. But you know, sometimes those photos really look amazing. They're just better. The Drop Challenge was shot on that. All the videos the original Drop Challenge was shot on Android Androidlena Gums found out Andrew needs to advertise that, Hey, we're the guys who did drop challenge, and we're not the guys who did it, but we're the phone who did it. What's it like being in a marriage and an iPhone? And I was going to ask what is that like? Yeah, I mean people typically don't. That's not the first thing they asked. So I am so glad the hard questions you know has been called the w t F Mark Marion Gay, I'm so glad you're like post race, post interracial marriage. That's not what that is. How about your phones though, I mean receiving links instead of just being able to send me a video That is kind of a whole thing. Yeah, I need to have WiFi to download a video so that I could then post it. But it's so tiny. You know. When that's love, When a whole last person is like helping me do social media, I'm like, okay, it's that love conquers all. That's the lesson here, because what do you think when you go help? I wish I could tap back a ha ha or a heart or a thumbs up. You just can't. You just can't. Yeah, that's my thing. When I text an Andrew person, I go, oh, I want to react, but I can. I have to type a full sentence out. I know it forces communication, this conversation. There's no shorthand, there's no shortcuts. I know. It's it's more energy, you know, which is something that I noticed you two have a lot of, and I was like, wake up, pitch, wake no, you know it's five pm on a what we're going to call Thursday. Thursday, Um, so that's sort of giving end of the week vibes. So I would imagine that you are very busy. I am, but do you know, are we all? And sometimes I wonder, you know, most days I'm so tired, and I always I'm hard on myself because I see everyone, you know, we're all bringing our best foot forward right where we see each other right, like we're trying not to be sleepy. We're trying to be like hey, right, And so I don't I don't know everyone's nap schedule and stuff, but I feel like sometimes I'm like, oh gosh, do I need to go to the doctor. Most most time during the day, I'm like horizontally, Yeah, this is something that's befallen me. Yeah, are you tired? Are you a sleepy girl? I'm a sleepy girl. I don't get great sleep, which is sort of not a great matchup. But I feel like I've had a lot of days recently where I go I should just stay horizontal, which is not great. But like I tricked my mind into thinking you deserve this, and I probably don't. I think we do. I'm going to try to talk to people, you know about this. Yes, sometimes I'm like it in my borderline and neemia. You know, I don't know, Maybe maybe I need to keep my feet warm, like my acupuncturist says, I don't know. She says that feet warm for better energy something like that. You know it's good for us, right, yeah, yeah, and cold feet is not good. I have cold feet a lot. And I don't mean to make this into a health section. You know, it about time that it became health and wellness. I did get concerned for a second when you said that it was going to take place in Asia the next Yeah, and I was like, but will it be Jonah Hills story. Well, certainly there will be teaming with white cast, teaming with white cast. But I think the setup of the show is already such that it is about like the the usually the Americans who come I so far, it's always been Americans who go to these places first of his Hawaii. And you did have like some but it could it could have used more, to be honest, But there was some local perspective, right, There's definitely a lot of local perspective in this season. Yes, from this like the local Sicilians or the Italians who are I think the most compelling characters to me. And remember we've only seen We're recording this a little bit early for scheduling purposes, but we've seen now the first I've seen the first four. I've seen the first four because we have one of the white lottest cast members on the show and Lara have already been on. You all know it's Megan Fahy by now, so we discussed it with her. But what I've loved about this was that it feels like, at least with the Italian of it all, like communication is very influenced by amongst the characters, is very influenced by these Italians in the way they communicate, like the way that the hotel manager like. Of course it's a character decision to make her so forward and so authoritative, but also it seems very Italian. And I was watching an interview with her and she said that Italian acting styles is also very much more about like literally playing an emotion and not in happening. And I saw that, were yeah, but I mean I haven't watched a movie with the Italian influence and well that's the last one. I said, yes, but there there is that thing of like it is more just about like showing a big emotion and playing a bold thing, and I think that is very European. So I would be interested to see what the I guess communications style and what how that has influenced the cinema of our Asian cinema, like how that navigated and how that like negotiated in a white Lotus season. I think that would be interesting. Let's see. I mean I think maybe not in a neat way, not to put it neatly, but I feel like it probably there's something in the other direction where it's a lot more internal or whatever than I don't know, it's it's a way we're years out from ever seeing it. And for you to be on HBO talk about that up, I know, what about what am I flirting with? Portrayal? What are the sentence we said portrayal? I think it was that it's so hard when you come up with so many amazing new colloquialism. You know, you only said that like five minutes ago, but I'm still thinking about Jonah Hill. I'm thinking about energy communication again. I am that's just what happens. It just it rubs off on you and then you start you start putting yourself second, because constantly Jonah Hill first, uh huh yeah, And I'm like, I haven't even thought about him and forever, and then you bring him up. That's your problem. I didn't you fail? You failed? You feel yourself? What can you tell us about this? You always wear the most incredible clothing. This is New Works. It's this like amazing brand that they're based out of the Bay Area, and then they have a store in l A two. They work with a lot of graphic artists. It's female owned. It's really great. The pants are too, It's just fun. A lot of colors. Yes, do you put a lot of and think a lot visually when it comes to your comedy, and obviously you do, But like, would you consider yourself like first and foremost of dual person. I'm actually I feel like I'm very auditory, but I don't like to spend a lot of time on looks. You know, I actually put things together very very fast, really, but I think I have pretty good instincts. Yeah, I was gonna say it's probably because it doesn't take much effort for you because it all comes very naturally. That's how I feel. I don't know what that is where it's not like I came from like a fashion family, you know, I don't know. I think it's out of laziness, but I like art. So it's just like whatever is quick. I just yeah, it helps make decisions fast because the connection between your appreciation for like art and visuals is very strong, between that and like your comedy or the way you want to present yourself. Because we're talking about the set design for the special. It's so gorgeous, it's beautiful and like someone executed that for you, but like it came from you, Like it's inspired by you, and it would not have it would not look the way it does if it weren't for like the things we know about Oticoto is like comedy and her and her visual style. I'm talking about you in the third person, but yeah, it's just like sort of bright. Some would maybe even say I'm like a feel good comedian, but yeah, maybe you know and that like I just want you to feel seen to and so gosh, yeah, so colors always do it for me, like an all black event or something. I I've never been I go dark. I've never been so sad. No, I've actually never been invited. You've never been to a funeral then lucky. That's true. Actually, yeah, not many people die around or at least around it's also a front under title or at least you know what, I don't get invited. Yeah, oh yeah, I have not. I've never been to a funeral. You have. I've been a memorials. I've never been to a funeral. You've never been to a funeral? Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, I mean, okay, I've never been to I should say, and let me know if this tracks. I've never been to like a Western funeral, does that make sense. I've been my grandmother's in China, and that is a whole different thing. And it feels like we they were like mourners and stuff mourners, but we didn't have to hire anybody, or maybe we did. I don't, I don't even know. But there were a bunch of like people I never met before, ser strangers, like like it's a thing in Asia where sometimes the Higernea Stagia will hire people to like whale for professional whale. Okay, yes, yes, I had heard about Yeah, and I'm kind of fifty fifty on. I'm sure my sister who's listening will let me know, um why or let me know if there were, but literally, I mean like we it was my Grandmo's funeral, and like it was we were all white. We drove the the casket to like the family burial ground which is like two hours into the mountains. Um, we burn everything. It's it's incredible anyway. So I don't know why we got in funeral. No, that's just like such a different event, kind of very eventful compared to I think like a Western one where I mean it really could be anything. Well, there's like a week un but like there are different like events, so it's like I have like memorial service, then there's like a proper funeral. Yes I'm wrong. We did go to awake one. Yes, and we did go to a wake, but the week is it's a very drawn out process. But yeah, there it does sound different. I guess I'm interested in the concept of a professional whaler. Yeah, this is like someone who is like encouraging the release of that emotion, which I think is probably helpful to some absolutely, uh huh. I think it's also a religious thing or based on a little bit or something about like they hear you in the heavens or something. Um, and then some people just do it to like really round out the environment. I feel like the atmosphere like yeah, look like yeah yeah yeah, or like you know, not everyone's emotive and it's like it should be sad or something. You know. Also, it's kind of like um because at the funerals that I've been to in my life, it is that sort of thing where when someone does break down, it feels very isolated and very chilling to hear, Whereas like maybe it's kind of nice to come into an atmosphere where the intent is that we are going to in a literal volume sense, released this emotion. Because there's nothing worse than hearing someone one person, than hearing one person begin like no, it's really it is it is. I went to one funeral where the person died far too young, and it was sort of very sudden, and so it was like there was a great degree of shock, and then to hear one family member like really break out like that, you almost wish everyone was in their streaming then hearing like the sounds of true pain and grief come out of nowhere. It's like an underwear party. It's like if one person is in their underwear when everyone else clothes, it's like shocking, but a funerals like an underwear party. It helps to have a convention, A paid person in there. Yes, sing like being like yeah, you know, so get all with the everyone. Oh my god, start it for everyone. I'm gonna pay for people to come to whatever premiere event you're doing for the special in their underwear? Are you doing about I am, I'm doing a launch party. I shot it out here, but I'm doing it back in l A. Because I was like the people for yeah, where did you shoot it? And so I was able to like build my own set. I was telling Bowen, you know, like a theater is really nice, but it's also like someone else's aesthetic, and I really wanted to be able to like give people my aesthetic. Julio Torres shot his there too. I was able to give his aesthetic, you know, and I feel like that's why I went with that. I was like, no, it's my first one on HBO, and so you know I want you to meet me. Yeah, that's so exciting. I think about, like, you know, your debut special is it's that thing where it's like, yes, the people that have followed you're going to understand and really, you know intrinsically get this and like be thrilled by the elements of you that you're offering. But it's also an introduction, you know what I mean. It's also every like a huge amount of people, especially on HBO meeting you, right, yeah, totally. And I think I want to be authentic. You know. Theater is like not traditionally a space. It means like a different level for me, and maybe even class wise or something. And I'm just like that wasn't me. And maybe you know, my my aesthetic, my art scenist the colorfulness. Sometimes I feel like, oh, it's it's just authentic to me. Maybe that's why I don't do like a black tie event or something, because oh those are people that I traditionally didn't fit in with, you know, and so but to be able to do that would be cool, would be like you know, cause playing you know, you know, it would be fun to do that. Oh you know what I mean. Maybe I'm returning this later. I don't know, you know what. It's just like just something nice. But even the jewelry I wear, you know, I wear a lot of like food candy earrings. I don't wear like fine jewelry because I would feel like someone else. It's cosplay because Okay, so for the readers at home, is wearing two egg is that? Is that an egg over easy? It is? Yeah, and they're they're gummies. Yeah, and they're actual like they were edible at one time. Risen, I wear a lot of food jewelry like that. I have like Cheeto ones like that. But it's just it's just very me. I'm very childlike, you know. And so yeah, um, when I'm in a space where it's like old money or something, I feel I feel like I suddenly I feel like I have to overcompensate. But it's it's that you know what the conventions are, which is black tie for one thing, or if it's a comedy special, it's like, oh it's at some big theater where the aesthetic is not is like you were saying, like, it's not your aesthetic, it's the aesthetic of some guy who some guy or a woman who died decades ago. Yeah, you know. And so for you, I feel like you probably intentionally or maybe unintentionally, but either way, you're you're making a choice to like do something very original, and I think that's why people like are drawn. That's why, like Chelsea Handler like reached out or like you guys became friends? How did you guys meet we became friends? A few years ago there was this Netflix competition show they were trying to do. You remember Rhythm and Flow. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a really great series. I've watched. The whole was like CARDI B T I Chance ye remember now they were trying to do this stand up comedy remember that? Remember that? But that was different from last comics standing It was like, yeah, it was gonna be like a mentorship and then yeah, but it's not like a UM competition and there's challenges where you have to do stand up, but a laundrymat or something like the elements to write it, wasn't it like more of a holistic thing of like that you do stand up but also sketch and like that, Like it wasn't it more of like a holesten. I think you're thinking maybe NBC's like, yes, I am something funny that Michael Longfellow, who just joined the cast, did that. Yeah, that's right, that's right. This was this was Netflix and never aired because the pandemic hit. But that's where we met where I did jokes, I mean, I've known of her for a long time. We almost crossed paths. I had tweeted for her, or one time I actually filled in for her at a festival where it was a huge theater in Vegas. It was supposed to be Tig. Uh, you know, she couldn't do it, so I did it. But they never told the audience. Oh really, it's just very different, you know. It's just like yeah, and then yeah, you got to tell the audience anyway they want. You certainly have to tell the audience that Tichnatara was not going to be there. Tig claims the audience was pissed. I think it was fine, but but yeah, so we we always kind of missed each other. And then you know, and I was like, well, if it takes this competition for her to finally see me, and then I was hoping she would choose me. It's like the voice you get a merried toor it's Neo Brennan, Tig Nataro and Dion Cole and uh yeah. And so you do your set in front of an audience and then you know, in the end, the three of them say thank you. None of us choose you, right, you know, And then Tig. Tig wanted me on her team, and so that's that's how we meant and we became close friends. And yeah, she's she's amazing. You know, she's directed a ton of stuff. I think people maybe forget that Two Do Queens. She did a bunch of episodes of Two Dough Queen's her own TV show. She even directed Ellen's special Oh like to come Back one or the one like back in the Dead come Back one, And I think it's called relatable or something. Yeah, tickets, I think like one of the for lack of a better word, like masters are like there's another word that's like better. But it's like she just like understands the whole setup of stand up in a way that One of my favorite jokes is the Taylor Dames. That's a great bit. It's just commitment comment. I don't do that anymore. I'm sure people know about this, but if you don't know the Tichnataro Taylor Dame, look it out story the bit. It's one of my favorite things in comedy. I would it's like rocks my world the first time you heard it. There's like something that connects you guys, I think, which is obviously like the singularity, like there's no one like Tig, There's no one like you, and so I almost feel like she really does understand how do she has a vision? Right, and so like you clearly have a lot of visions. So and that way, I really I understand it. Yeah, we're like confidently, all, Well, it's hard. I have a certain cadence. I don't use correct English when I talk. I make up words and sentence structures. They make weird noises when I'm doing stand up, and and it's like I don't quite fit in. I don't. I haven't done a ton of traditional media because I think it is hard for me to fit into other people's worlds. So that's my stand up is my favorite art form because I get to sort of be me. And speaking of Taylor Dane and like the commitment to just being you, that's something that Tig has always done. You know, she was offer only, like she and she says, look way before I should have been offer only. But she's like, I just couldn't keep auditioning for these things that were like I was not going to fit into and so perfect examples is everything you see her in Star Trek or that Wild Zombie movie where she replaced Chris Delia. Do you know about that? I didn't see it, so yeah, it's wild, right, even the idea of it. When they announced that Tig was replacing Chris Delia wildly different and chorus. I was cracking up about how perfect it actually is Chris Delia's world Letergy to like Tig just being like, it's the end of the world, It's a zombie apopalypse, and her just being like, let's blow their brains out, and she had to do it on a green screen by herself because they already shot the movie at the cast there, and I'm like, only she can actually pull that off, And you know, you know what I mean, it's literally cutting her out of her own world and putting it into these worlds. And she's the same in all of these roles. I'm telling it, She's just being tigged. The space is exploding in Star Trek, everything is going wild around her, and she's still like, hey, so, uh, can you just pass me that pen? Like she's just you know what I mean, I'm obsessed obviously, But what you were saying is like she really saw that with me too, And um, yeah, because it's it's hard, you know, when you get an audition or something, you're like, oh, maybe I do this voice or something. You have to do the most to fit into something that clearly is not you, and then like, yeah, it takes a very confident performer to just be like, no, I'm gonna give them me even though it's not you on the paper. When I'm saying is I don't have range and the range is over right, it's not necessary depending on what you do, Matt saying this as someone with range, that you do have range, you know that. Yeah, So like what's something that's maybe a little out of range that you were like, oh, maybe I want to try doing that that no one ever sends me an audition for no one ever for me, Yeah, thinks of you for like what kind of character. I think that that's changing a little bit now, Like I think now that I've acted a little bit more and people see that I'm capable of doing it, that's changing a little bit more. Like I've recently gotten auditions for things where I ordinarily would think that they would want to see me for another part, and they saw me for whatever, like whatever, I didn't book it. So now just say, like they wanted me to read for Fiarro and Wicked, and I was like, I would think they would put me in like something else, you know what I mean? Like I would think like if they were casting like a box and how you see yourself versus how other people see you as very to me it made and I mean, who knows, But I guess the thing is like that's the thing of just not taking yourself seriously and off right too, And that's I guess That's another thing is it's like when you really are confident, you can look at an audition and be like, yeah, I'm gonna give no matter what. I know what I'm gonna do. Like Aubrey Plaza does that, you know what I mean? To the point yeah, yes, and to the point where now it's like she's playing this character that was written for her by Mike White, and there's so much Aubrey in it. But it's also like nothing she's played before you, right, but it is extremely layered. Whereas like you could see her in the beginning of her career and be like, oh, Aubrey Plaza only does Aubrey Plaza. But there's like now you're able to see dimension within that because she's mastered what she's able to do and she's so confident. I mean, like talk about someone who, like with traditional media, has to make the choice to be her, Like every interview she does is so fucking funny because she trolls every single interview she ever speaks, at least she did for years in the beginning. Now maybe it's different, but that's something I really respect about people who are like singular and energy is it's like, yeah, you know what, maybe I didn't see it here on the page for myself, and I've been in my head about it, but now I can give myself because I know myself. Yeah, but that this all sort of is floating around the question of the show, which we must ask you, which is os go. What was the culture that made you say culture is for me? So this is that thing that you consumed in terms of pop culture or even culture at large that you can look back on now and be like, m that was formative or that was defining de Yeah, I mean there was there was a lot, you know, from like pop up videos to Janet Jackson sing two of her in Gosh, which song was it? When I think when I think of you, you think maybe yeah, there was like two yeah, yeah, yeah, like okay. Oh, by the way, so I'm not a good singer, so oftentimes when I try to sing something, um, people interpret what I'm trying to and that was awesome, but it's not that song. It is not that song. I don't know enough to um. You know this is by the way, Wicked was a really difficult audition for me. Also for like thirty two bars I said and I checked, I was like a minute and a half. I'm the kind of singer when I say I'm not like a pretty singer. I mean when we have like a musical sing off at a party or something, I always get the that part like if it's lame as up, yeah, sing talky villain, that's that's what I yeah, I get you know those sing tay villain is hard because you have to be really compelling in order to do it, and people think like, oh, the sing takey villain. But like those are like those are really fun parts and those are hard parts. No, it is fun, yeah, but I'm not you know, if everyone's like what song, I'm like, oh, you know, it was like oh when ill of things together again together again, I think maybe it's oh my gosh, yeah, and that's not even the culture video culture those really gosh. I saw so many people with confidence and you know, and just like being singular artists because music videos at that time were also more original and dared to, you know, go places that like, we're not scared that the audience might get bored, you know. But I think for me, I went to Hollywood Bowl concert of Snoop Dogg and Red Hot Chili Peppers, which what is that combination? You know what I mean? And that's why I bought tickets. And it was a fundraiser for Snoop Dogg's Sons football team, which I think he raised way too much money for the ridotball teams, like the middle school. Yeah. I was like, I think you got it. I think no, I know, I know. I was like, or like, I don't know, give the team to grand right, I have to perform. Well, he obviously wanted to get on the bill. Yeah, what was it was? It was wild? I was like, do these two energies match? And I love juxtapositions like that, and I'm I really liked hip hop and dance hall music and I feel like, you know, when people see me speaking of like what other people think of you role wise and stuff people see me. You know, I look like, you know, I own an art gallery, you know. But my true loves are like dance hall music, which is like Jamaican. But it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that I can like make my butt move in different ways. You I would never see my body and think, oh, this body of an engineer, you know, can that I got from my father, that I got from my father could do stuff like that. But I love juxtapositions like that, how that could live together in a world. And I think that was when it was inspired seeing Flee go wild in that Lakers jersey. I don't watch sports, but Lakers jersey and Snoop Dog doing something for the greater good, which is the football team, all these things that aren't my interest a lot of sports. I was like, you know, but it means something to both of them. It was really cool. It enhances the other. And so I feel like we're already like at the saturation. I'm like, I'm like connecting a lot of dots here. But I feel like people think that what people want and crossover culture is that, like it's like, look it's all your favorite things in one spe But it's best if it's like two things that you would never expect to be together, not even a bunch of things, but just maybe two things at minimum obviously, but like to create that juxtaposition. And then that's what's interesting because you don't need like all of these things happening at once. But I feel like I love that. That's a great way of thinking about it because I feel like you are a very kinetic physical performer too, Like I feel like in all your TikTok's, especially in the drop challenge, it was like, oh, look like can like like pop her ass out and like and like get into a squadhop lock and drop it. Yes, that train as answer. I took a lot of like ballet classes when I was a kid, and I was a cheerleader in high school. Yeah, so there, Yeah, there's a lot of like dance and that was like, you know, my performance for a while. Um yeah and so yeah, so I really loved that. But you're right, like, too much of the same thing will eventually just not mesh it clashes yeah not in uh yeah, um sometimes Okay, when I see like Katie Perry, you know, performance that is maybe a lot like I don't know what to look at and maybe it's too much. Yes, well, yeah, I think that there's a degree of maximalism. Are that Maybe it's just like you think it's purposefully and iore and then you're like, but how could that be? Like maybe this is just too much. I think like that that that's why that Shark character was such a big deal, because you just start focusing on someone else, you know, and maybe that's not your intention, you know. I think that also Left Shark was just not nailing the dancing, which couldn't be funny and ultimately was like, I'm sorry, I watched that back and I don't notice the I really don't either. I think people are picking on Left Shark unfair. Yeah I never understood. Yeah, yeah, me too. But I think it's because there was too much going on. So it's just like something, oh didn't the finn wasn't high enough, you know, And yeah, I think that's what happened. The Shark was probably rebelling a little too, you know, And that's why you you got to interview all your backup dancers before you you hired them. I want to say I was just gonna say you need to get backup dancers for your next for my Largosco and Friends shows. I have started with dance numbers before, and I have had backup dancers. But if anyone can like inject that into like the stand up aesthetic can break that up, like if Julio not to just because we've talked about before, but were we can have a conveyor belt and like just have things go by like that's his like only he can do that, right, But I feel like you can be one of the only people who can bring out a bunch of backup dancers for your for your special you know. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like you have. Do you treat them well? Ahere rehearsal just you know, I keep it shut again, And I don't like drawn out things. I'm very instincts gut like energy was good, so why beat it till like it's perfect? I like chaos a little bit. That's funny, especially started like dirty minutes long. Yeah that's good. I think that's actually better. Yeah. I feel sometimes crazy when I feel like I've run things too much. Oh it's not good. I'm I'm hitting that well down too. Yeah, we've talked about this like being a rehearsal person, like you sort of have to be because of the nature of what you do. But even at SNL, like if I run things too much, it ruins it. I go on stage like I've had it happened like this past run of shows where like I just ran a thing into the ground, and then I show up at dress and I'm like, oh, this doesn't I lost the threat. I just I just and it's and it's a terrible feeling. It happens to everybody. Yes, sometimes you compare yourself to a former version. You're like, yourself, Oh, it was so good when I first did it. Yeah, you know, even as you're delivering the lines, you go, oh, that didn't get as hard of a left as like the rehearsal or whatever, and you know, you stand up. I really really rehearse that hole. But you know that's why, you know, I had a chance to do it off Broadway before taping for HBO, But I was like, I don't know if I'm that kind of performer where I can do four hundred shows and then tape it. You know, I need that raw energy. Yeah, it's interesting because with mine it was totally different because I've done it so many times and we're a long time. Yeah, because it was singing, we were going to tape two, so did you tape it twice? So traditionally that's like what it is for everyone out there, like if you're watching a comedy special, that's like probably two performances edited together to make it the best of what it is. But Carmic, well, he did it four times. Can you imagine sorry sorry talking No, I literally I can't imagine doing it four times. But also his thing is so different, Like the reason why it's like, how do you do that four times and act like you're saying it for the first time? I have secrets like four times? But he's just sitting like in that same posture the whole time. Yeah, yeah, I would imagine that that because that's like an emotional show. And I think because it's like it's so thoughtful and he does even in the way that they shot it. And I worked with that production company on this, and so they were saying, like, you know, it really does take place like almost like an avoid what he's doing, Like in the way that it's shot, it's sort of like allows him to sort of like maybe doing it four times allowed different discoveries because it almost is like a monologue before it is stand up totally and it's very bo Burnham too. I feel like just in recent history, between Gerard's thing and with Kate Berlanche show, and you know they've run those things a million times, you know, yeah, I mean I've watched Kate's show in New York and it was like very clear that this had to have been restant million times. I'm just saying, how do you rehearse long silences? I'm saying, you know, and who knows what editing is with s and so so there's that and also but with mine, it was like just because it was singing, I just wanted to make sure I could do it two times in a row because I never have because your voice gets tired. Um. So the week before I did like a thing at Joe's Pub where I just did it twice in a row just to prove to myself I could do it, so that I could like literally know in my body like it doesn't feel insane to sing, you know, twenty five songs in a night, which is which is a lot, you know, And then like the sketches in between that you just shot afterwards, right okay, yeah, and then hopefully, well I hoped in the edit that it would come together. Does your is yours? Like multimedia? Is your? Just stand up? Stand up? We tried a tiny, tiny sketch in the beginning. I was afraid, like sometimes for a stand up show it could be a little cheesy, but were like, let's just make it sure. You know, it's just my grandma being like do you have any yet putting something in my mouth before I go on stage. But yeah, it just didn't work out. It didn't feel like it was in the voice yeah, or not the way you want to like be introducing yourself right off the top, because those opening seconds are really important, right, and it just didn't match where I was like, you know what, it's just a stand up show totally, and have your grandmother in the end is so nice because she is such a part of your life and also like part of like your work where Common referenced her a lot. Okay, So, without spoiling anything, the title the Intruder is about someone who came to your your house, right, Okay, you obviously get into it in the special, but like, what's like the general plot summary of that, because that's a lot. He came to our house three times in one day, and so I was trying to figure out. I was touring my hour of stand up. It was sort of it had through line, but it was jokes for an hour. And then I worked with Mike bar Bigley a lot and he's, you know, really great at story structure and he's on Broadway now, and I was telling him, my, gosh, I have this story that I can't fit into my hour. This intruder came to my house three times and a day and he goes, wait, that's three acts and I was like, wow, I didn't even think of that, just needs someone to say it. And then and then all of a sudden it's there. Right. So it starts with first intrusion, second intrusion, third intrusion, and how we got rid of the guy, you know, and and ultimately so good now, like I mean, I want to watch it right now. You know, sometimes it really takes another person to look at you and go you are Darcy or whatever, you know whatever, you know what I mean. Any I wouldn't have thought of that. Yeah, And ultimately it's really about like all the things that made you feel like a freak growing up, or all the things that you feel like you're an outsider, those are your superpowers. And so that's kind of what this show is really I think about, Yeah, who are your favorite comedians? Tig is actual? Yeah, yeah, Tig for sure. Yeah, that's what I would be an iconic answer for anyone, even if she wasn't directing exactly. But we know that you're just sucking up. This might be the first episode of must culture together listens to I guarantee she's never listened to it. I guarantee stuff she might have. Maybe I think she ground. I don't think I've ever tweeted for Tig. Do you ever tweet? I tweeted one day for take and it was like the best day of my life. You just think I'm done, I thought, yeah, and life is really long. They're like, no, you gotta keep doing ship. I mean, you got to pay your bills. Okay, I thought, I mean tweeting for a take. It's really she doesn't even know you're doing it. It's such a cool thing that she does though. Smart. Remember there was like a moment where like the ball was really being passed around like circle, and I was like I was like any day now, and it never never, and I was like, Okay, now I know what it's like to feel like that kid on the court, please please, but they're like whatever, that wasn't the best tweeter anyway. I feel like it becomes work for a day. Two, Yeah, that's the thing. You have to be prolific, and then when you're prolific, like six out of ten things aren't good. It's like taking over someone's Instagram. You're like, okay, now for the day, you have to be stakes and funny and on. And you know, it was a different time. It was a really nice at least when I did. I think she still does it, she does, but when I did it back in the day, like the was like and like Twitter was even back then, even post election, post Trump, it was like a better, nicer place. Yeah, you know, and so like it was a different thing back then too. Well, you could tweet something and not know that it wasn't necessarily going to be received in bad faith automatically like now, I feel like nowadays on Twitter it's like if you put something out there, it's like probably someone's gonna troll you for sure? Are you offen? Now? To we share Twitter, and so at any given time, like if you want to, if you want to tweet something, well tweet we can like and then we sometimes do, but it's like far in few between now that we like, make a joke tweet. Yeah, you know, I feel like we're more visual people. Instagram is nice. Nice. And also there's something about this TikTok girl, you too talk about TikTok because I'll quickly how did you like you understood it? Because it took me like a couple of days to understand what the funk? I still don't like it. I still yeah, it's where I just archived things, to be honest, it's nowhere here where I go first, bless you, bless you, thank you, and so you're on it. So I mean, well, Mike, Mike for Bigley, who's not like you know, no offense, but just like forward, he was like, you gotta be on TikTok. Do you want to be forgotten? Or if you're on TikTok Dad and you know what I mean, Like he's a dad and like you know, on Broadway and you know what I mean, like, yeah, he doesn't need right. I was like, okay, do you have one. Yeah, Okay, so then that's interesting. Yeah, so we're all trying not to be forgotten, I guess, And so we're on there. You know, I thought about joining it, but only because okay, not to reference myself, but back in the days when I would do the lip sync videos, people be like, bo when you have to join this is like they're like, bohen, you have to join TikTok before I feel like pandemic. Really they would have exploded on TikTok. It's not but it's not even that. I'm just like, I feel like I just missed it completely, Like I landed on what like would have been good for it, and I just totally didn't move past it. And now I'm like, well now I now I don't have like a good way in anymore. And so I felt the same way about my Taylor Swift things. Yeah, like those were essentially made for TikTok and I just did it on. You know, our friend Paul mccallean said that the original TikTok's were Fortnits in Orlando. We didn't know, I you have this are great And honestly I did post one on TikTok. Did well. Really like people liked it like it's us from like truly people long time ago, and you were just like editing in I was editing while we were at Disney World. I was directing, Matt was directing, and like you know, had the shot list or whatever. Yeah, but it's a ton of work. It's it's done of work. And it was back when Instagram only did fifteen second videos, so we were like, oh, this is great. Like the limitation is we have to do an episode ode of the story in fifteen seconds, and so the cutsbur crazy, and it was literally just being like okay, now, but when you stand there and I'm putting the camera as far as possible to your face and you're gonna say I'm gonna get you soon, and then we just have taken that tipe and I would give it to him and he'd put the music on and like it was inspired by American horror story. Yes, when I get home posting gay ghost post because I posted I posted what is the one? I posted which war? Which war? So there's which war? There's a gay ghost and then the other good one is shape shape shifters. They're they were they were inspired by American horror story. Yeah, and anthology when you resurfaced them or whatever, right you Yeah, posted it more recently again, people on TikTok love the d I y. They like stupid little bits. Yeah, and I'm still getting used to the fact that you can post a TikTok that's like five seconds totally and some of those are the are the biggest one. But I feel like it's and I don't feel this way with Instagram. It feels very like, oh, I'll just post what I want to post. But on TikTok, it feels like there's a prompt in front of me, there's a gun to my I had like make some is off because everyone is so loose about it, Like it's literally just like fuckingna, I'm gonna do something today tonight. Yeah, just for fun. But it has to be fun for you. And when I have fun, it's good. But I try not to stress about it because you know it can't be because stressful. It's not supposed to be stressful. Yeah, there has to be one that's fun, and that's I guess. I was like, if I'm going to get on TikTok, like it'll be fun, you know, even maybe more stupid or more basic than anything I would put on like Instagram, right, and then it trust me, it has been no, no, I have someone there that I'm like, okay, I guess that songs underneath me going yeah, you know, that's fine. It's whatever it's out there. It sort of tells you what to do. And that's what I like about the you know what I mean. It's like you go to f I P and you see what's trending and you're like, okay, oh that's okay. See that's what I'm missing, is that I'm like, what do I know? Right, there's a prompt? Yeah, yeah, And it's funny because it's it's like the culture is telling you what the prompt is and then you respond to that by doing your own, and then all of a sudden, it's like it's almost like crafty in that way. It's crafty in that way. I like that. I like that as in like I thought it was so alien to like figure out what to even post, but now I'm like, Okay, it's like it's anything. It's anything. Or you can just be like I just did this thing by and then see how it reacts. It might get two views because what I just said wasn't interesting, but you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, but then it's like the weird ship that does pop off that you're like, okay, sure, and then to be actually a creator of one of the great games you're on like Hollow Grounds. It was so fun to watch people's remix. I learned so much about different occupations. Jobs. I didn't jobs I didn't even know exist that people would do it out there. We have to do one when we're done with this. Oh yeah, yeah you already y'all did one at which awards? I feel like you did it? Did at Critics Choice? Did we do? We did want? I've done multiple times already. Oh yeah yeah, And I mean it's always it's a beautiful thing. It also throws back to that great to drop. I've always loved that part of the song. Yeah yeah, and that's like there's something to it. I mean it was just us being silly in little Tokyo of Los Angeles. Um, but yeah, the occupations were wild. There was there was like a person who a rock splitter, so just like every time they would yeah, every time he would go down and break the rock, he would squat down. Yeah is that possible? Like you put all your weight forward? But then you also do lower body. Yeah, it's wild, very athletic. You know. There was a person like a fisherman on a boat doing it and then fell over but kept that and that's the one he posted. People died as a result of the drop, not that I know, but that when I when he fell over, I was like, what have I done? Yeah? Yeah, killed a man with that as also the cast of Hamilton. That's how I met this season's cast. That's how I met Asian Aaron Burr. Oh my god, he's so good. Okay, yeah, so good. Okay, I haven't seen he's excellent as he's in great Aaron Burr. Okay, I took my parents to see him. Did you go because of him? Or it's like you just went to go see it and this happened to be the cast kind of both, Like I knew that he was going on and he just started it. And then my parents were in town and I was like, I'm gonna take him to see Hamiles at my dad falls asleep. Well, he just he it's nothing. He didn't love me, just fell asleep. He was tired. Well, the city is a lot. The city is a lot travel travel, But my mom was like, Wow, this is amazing. I was like, okay, mom gets it. Yeah, it's great. It's a good parent show. It's a great parent show. Yeah, because it's history. Literally, there's love. There's love, there's love history, there's a murderous intrigue thing you want. There's flirting with betrayal, and there's actual betrayal. Yea. But it is always like three hours is how long. It's pretty long. It's three hours. Doesn't feel it doesn't feel long. Now, it's like it's a typical Broadway musical. Like I was talking about Hamilton's. I know it was. You know, it's seen a drop challenge. I have seen it. I haven't seen it, not this cast. I was saying, that's how I met, you know, Asian. I know that's cool. I feel like, freaking, who's the main Hamilton. It has been a million years, so yeah, I feel like Hamilton was Asian two. I don't know, there might have been an Asian Hamilton's somewhere, but it did bring communities together and that I was discovering folks too, and that was really cool to see. Yeah, it's like that kind of TikTok challenge where anyone anywhere can do it, which is perfect. It's not like it's even better than like a full on choreo dance. Yeah, because those are takes a lot of buying for people to like, Okay, I gotta learn it and then do it. But it's like the prompt is to do something like anywhere and that's the fun of it. Can be on a fishing boat, it can be right you're sitting here so excited that we're going to do one. We'll do one. We'll like sit into our seats like we were about to record, and then you can do one getting up to the beach. Perfect. There's so many that is a good one. Sitting down to record, to record, we can make the chairs really to watch this? Oh no, I guess my chairs. So you love those chairs where you can pull the lever and they go down and all the way down. I don't know. I thought it was stationary and didn't go down, so it's so thrilling. I didn't go that far. But like I used to have a chair when I was like one of those like because your body was smaller, because my body was smaller, and the computer trays and like you go so happy and you can just go I was like being on the Tower of Tower in your own home period is now Guardians in the Galaxy. So does the corrected me. I have like some Disney jokes in my hour, and and then someone came out right, of course, oh please, that nerd. You know, Disneyland is tough because there's you know, you think you're a fan of Disneyland, and then there's bigger fans you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, people who pick it it outside. Remember they were like bring back the magic. We talked all about it when it happened. We were like, this is a little too much because I was like, oh, maybe I'm obsessing too much. I was like looking at the ticket links and when is it open again? You know, stuff like that I do the lightning. Yeah, so you're up to date on how to navigate the parks. Now people call me a Disney adult, you know, and I see that and I'm like, man, I'm not like that, right. People call us Disney adults, and we're like no, no, no, yeah, we're just like we're organized so that we can have a not so stressful day. Well, don't even get me started, because nowadays it's like, I don't tell you the link to this taking article that goes in depth about how fucked up it is. Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy, and like how fucked up? What is? So basically the pricing of it. So basically they talked about they basically broke it down in a way that no like major publication really has about exactly how much money it is, like say for a family of four, right, so it's like a hundred sixty nine dollars or whatever the fun for like a one park ticket, and then you get the add on to go to both parks, and then like when you get in, you have to pay for the Disney Plus server or the Plus service. And then there's certain rides like Rides of the Resistance, which have you done that, Yes, unbelievable, but one hasn't done any But you have to pay twenty bucks to do that one on top of the amount you've already paid. Not a single word has been said yet about buying food, which you also have to like get a reservation if you want to sit down and eat, like months in advance. And then there's also the whole ordering of the food thing. You can't just walk up to a kiosk and buy food. You have to order in an intervance, and then nothing has been said yet about hotels, transportation, like all these things that add up to basically an amount of money that you're paying being And also like I haven't even gotten into how confusing the app is if you don't know what you're doing. If yeah, like my parents who had to navigate all of that, like when we were growing up, like didn't forget it, like English not their first language, Like they could never do it now and it would just get in line and then just stand there thinking this is my only right and it's like, no, you can skip the line, but it's like you'd have to. They just suffer exactly. But it's like what we've been saying, what you've been saying, Matt, and what I think everybody thinks. It's like it used to be this attainable middle class thing, like you bring your kids to Disneyland or Disney World, and then like that's like an accessible, attainable thing, it's the happiest place on earth, and now it's just so cost prohibitive and it's all about the bottom line for the parks for Disney. But it's also like the reason that fast pass was invented was because people at Disney were like, oh, the more people wait in line, the less they're buying gifts, and so you might as well incentivize. It helps everybody if you take them out of the line, and like expedity. But now it's just like it's there's no good reason for anything. And another thing too, is the fan community is now railing against them in a major way, like all of the YouTube bloggers and the bloggers and stuff like that, like people that have devoted all their time and energy, like exactly, this is like a part of the culture. This is the culture that made them say cultures for them down and like they have this season passes and they go into the park every day and update you on like what's under construction, what's being added, etcetera. It is an entire ecosystem and fan community. They now are all being like this is the worst that's ever been. It now is like they'll announce projects and then cancel them, like yes, like they were supposed to be like this Mary Poppins ride that they were putting in and that's since been canceled. They're probably not going to do a lot of the stuff they were going to do with the announced they have like a big revamp of Epcot. That's half happening, half not. They announced the tron roller coaster coming to Magic Kingdom in seventeen, it's it's now coming in to the middle of I mean, like, of course there was the pandemic, but it's just it's odd when you put that in juxtaposition with Universal, which often don't announce projects that are fully built and then they announced them. It's two different ideologies, right, So it's like Disney's thing is, We're going to really let you know in advance what our vision is and what our plan is, and then half of it comes to fruition, or when it comes to fruition, like no one cares anymore, whereas Universal is like, we're doing something. You can clearly see what it is. To the point where I went to Universal in Orlando and the Velocito coaster was built and I was like, when is that opening? And the cast members were literally like, we don't know what you're talking about. When it was that, it was not announced, so they did not knowledge. They talked big games. Unlike your series which you shot in which you will post on TikTok, you are actually going to do that. Yes, yes, when you announced you to we do and are we ready to announce something? What we might be doing something for Christmas, for the holidays. There might be a holiday special on Lost Cultural Stuff. There will be a new list. There will be a new list. That's all we'll say for now. We're gonna say is we're having a holiday themed extravaganza. It's going to call back to the Twelve Days of Culture, but it's also going to call back to some of our other lists. It's sort of a great meeting of all the great Lost Coach eventized episodes, and you're gonna want to tune in for that one. Yes. So, with all of this new excitement in the air, should we move on to I don't think so, Honny, think it's time to move on. I don't think so. I think it's time to move on. I don't think so, honey. So this is the sixties second segment on our podcast, Last Culture Stuff, which we actually just talked about, and now this podcast is going to sort of move into its final segment. I don't think so, Honey, is a sixty second dragging of something in pop culture that's really getting our goat and I have something. Even though this episode is going to be airing three weeks from now. I'm going to do it now because it's it's top of mind. And understand that I am saying this on November seventeen. This is November seventeen. Okay, yes, okay, this is Matt Rodgers November seventeenth. I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I don't think so honey. Ticket Master go on like you can't and talk about announcing something and then jerking back to change public one for the tailor Stoft's Aerostars November eighteenth, and here it is November sep tip famously as we just said, and I don't think so, honey, that a lot of us are getting tickets, And honestly, like the AOC is right, this is a fucking crazy, bullshit problem that Ticketmaster is this much of a monopoly that now you have to pay thousands of dollars to go to this concert not for nothing, but like I want to see Tailer more than anyone else, almost just feel like everyone else. But this is really cost prohibitive. And now it's really crazy. I mean, this is all getting out of control, and it's like really in line with I don't think so, honey, of the capitalist culture that we're in, just like Disney that we're talking about you, we're making things unavailable to the public. You are, you are creating an elitist system. I hope that she's somewhere really furious about this and I something is done, because this is not fair. It's not fair to people that were, like, you know, thinking they would just get online. Fair like everyone else that I get the pre sales now on sale, but like, I don't think so, honey. It's one minute. Um, I got the verified fan code and I could not, for the life of me get any of my hands on tickets anyway. This is no Yeah, it's it's pretty crazy. I always want things for the people. Yeah, weight in line like everyone else, honestly, like we love fast past. But when you hear how dark it is it is, you hear that, it's like, oh, well, we only did that so people can like shot more. It's like, yeah, of course I understand that as a business. But then when you start that, when you give him mouse a cookie, he's gonna want a glass of milk. He's gonna want a glass of milk. And so basically like it's just like when you when we take a step in that direction, like of course it's going to lead to something like of course, of course this is so crazy. I mean, like I guess it's the most popular tour of all time period point blank. But to just cancel every well, this is like huge news. This is like and again we're you know, we're recording this a few weeks before the release of this episode, but like, um, it is like major, major news. I mean, like for politicians to be getting involved in no wing and on this it's like there's an investigation in Tennessee really on like Ticketmaster because like they're like, we need to look into this, and like unfortunately or fortunately it's a thing where like both sides of the aisle are like this is actually crazy, but it is ultimately, but if I feel like, obviously it's more of a left leaning issue. It's more urgent on the left because it's like, oh, this is a monopoly and we got to regulate this somehow. But but then right loves country tailor. This is a country pop problem. This is aunt this is actually an American thing. Yeah, the right likes one thing, the left likes another. But ultimately it is about like figuring out what this Live Nation merger with Ticketmasters is gonna look like, because that's the fucking thing is like they're merging, and so there is no other option, and so there is no other way for anyone to get tickets to this fucking tour or any concert or any sporting event. So what prices got really hot? Thousands of tens of thousands, Okay to go to a concert for I mean an hour and a half. It's like an hour and a half where it takes you an hour each way or more to each way because the seating, I mean forget about the getting in and out of the venue of like thought processes too for them to make money. Okay, yeah, anyway, Oh I forgot about that. It's just like this is no they say it's to wait out bots. It's like that we're setting up all these systems so that like bots and scalpers don't buy tickets. But it's right, yeah, then you're not even letting the actual real people buy It's crazy. And then what happens is like ultimately like someone will find their way around that, like bots will buy these tickets and masks, and then what will happen is they'll end up selling those for even more, and that changes their demographic too. Of course. It's like, who are these folks who aren't into culture? You know, it's just just because they have money. Maybe they come from myne it's old money. They don't care. They just want to like sit somewhere and like not talk to their wife. So that's not your demographic, you know, just some And also yeah, or just like the tickets being bought and then of course now they're bought, so you think there's gonna be butts and seats there, but then there's like some third party selling it for amount of money that no one wants to pay, and then there's no one. It's fucked up. It's not it's not cool. It's broken. It's not working definitely, And I mean, like obviously like this sucks, but maybe now this is a big enough deal I think so that like we can get some sort of agreement on something to do with it in Congress. Just to zoom out for a second. It's also just like a testament to like how big she is as an artist. Right now. She has five shows at Sophie Stadium in l A. And it's like this is at the stadium level, five shows, that's nuts to say nothing of the rest of the tour. Crazy crazy how many? How what's the seating capacity at Sophie I uh, I looked at at least something something like that. People. Yeah, but also who's to say, like if it's not the same people again and again, who could just pay? You know what I mean? Like that's what sucks. Anyways, it's like back to it, I think, back in the dative, but like Taylor say something about politics and now yeah she has a chance again, and now it's like, yeah, it's like this is now the new politics. This is now her standing up to miss what is her? Uh, miss miss Center from Nashville. Um, Miss, I forget who whatever she's she's awful. Um do you have an I don't think I do. It's not quite as urgent, but it's bothering me. I'm sure it's bothering everybody. It's okay that it's not urgent, because again, this is being recorded on November seven. Marcia Black Martin reader. I didn't have to look it up. It just came to me to confirm, okay, and it came is a horrible this is I don't think so, honey. As time starts today, I don't think so many tagging people or me, anybody in a giveaway on Instagram. Have you guys been dealing with this random people tagging your name into like some random giveaway. It's been people do it to me, but I think people would do it to anybody. But okay, so basically like a company will do like a giveaway and the big tag your friend who would love this? And it's like things that I would never be interested in. And I think this is a phenomenon that's happening. This is not just a me problem. I can guarante you guys are looking at me like I'm crazy. But it's sweepsticks culture. Sweepsticks have always been bullshit. It's always been scam culture. It's it borrows principles of MLM, or it's like sign up, give your information, pay a little bit of money so you can win like a whole you know, a bunch of Scholastic books like that's that was the version when we were kids. And I feel like sweepstakes have always been a fucking scam. I've not known a single person who's ever want to sweepsticks. If you want to sweepstakes in your life, you're fake your partner simulation, you're not real, okay, and and please let me know if you have one sweepstakes. I would love to get to know you one minute. Honestly. Yeah, I always Sickelodeon culture, but I never knew a single person who won one fake kids, and then sometimes they would put them on TV like Hi, I'm I'm Larry, and I want the sweepstakes. No, you're not nor your zero zero one zero zero one zero zero one. That's true. It's always been earned, at least like Prices right where it's like we saw the work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's never it's very Nickelodeon culture. Yeah, where I was like, did that person get a free or is their father Daniel Orlando Mary Price is right, Yeah, so people are taking you thinking you would be interested in the things or is it's just like I think, no, it's it's this thing where and I think people it's an involuntary thing of like if I saw, oh, Starbucks is doing a giveaway of coffee, they would never do this, but like I'd be like, I'm gonna tag Otico even though I don't know if you like coffee or not, I like I'm going to assume that Otico likes Starbucks. Yeah, I'm just I'm saying this is my example because I have Starbucks. But that's out of kind, like I don't even think it's this kind of well being. It's not like that. Well, it's not out of that because it's like I don't I don't need this stuff. I don't want this study. It is to just get your attention. I mean, because if it's strangers, if it's is it your friends when you would like these shoes, it's never my friend. Sometimes this happens. Yeah, now I'm understanding. Yeah, it'll just be like a weird like corporate thing where it's just like a ton of hatch it. Yeah, it's algorithms. There's this new thing too where people like, I don't know if it's happened to you, but people have been tagging me in their comedy videos or something, so it ends up in my tags. So if people want to see other things I'm tagged in, they got to swim through that approve your tags from now on. Okay, you approved tas Okay, Yeah, I didn't know where. I was like, oh, what's this like? And then I realized the philosophy behind. Yeah, where I was like, oh, so people watched the video thinking I'll pop up in it, you know, but I never do. But now they've given I don't know Jack Smith view and Jack Smith is one of the nastiest comedians and the Cassie and I like one of my damns, and he had written me, Hi, how do I start stand up that kind of tips? Yeah, well, did you tell him you tag other comedians because maybe maybe I just black out whenever I do give disadvantage advice to Ryan's doing it. Oh my god, what if you found out your husband was doing that just helping helping other comics. He's Jack, He's Jack whatever, that's his name. It was like a very very like John Doe kind of name. Yeah, it's like, oh, well, speaking of Oh, it's time for you to do I don't think honey, are you ready? Oh my gosh. I get so nervous that I talked so slow. I'm doing it like you be like the singular voice. This is not black tie, this is not the Beacon Theater, this is elsewhere, thank you. I was also thinking about the black tie thing. Now. It's really easy for you to have a dark era because you get so colorful when you have your dark era. It's really going to be really stand up. You should have a dark era and then bleach the hair. Yes, the hair has to change, right, it doesn't have to if you know, I know, that would be nice. I always think about I've seen the bleached tear on you and it looks great. Yeah, exactly. But as a stand up it's so hard. You don't want to change for me, for me too much, because then it's like that might be the joke. I have to acknowledge it maybe in you know, when I'm doing sets around town, and it'll be a thing I talk about in the next hour kind of thing. Well if you run out of material, right right, would yeah, yeah, but you'll know, you'll know when I do. So that's the next hour, and this is the next minute. This is goes. I don't think so, honey. When time starts now, I don't think so, honey. So many reality to see a really different energy. So many reality shows about finding love, right, there's so many shows about finding love. Love is blind too hot to handle the Bachelor, you know, but there's no shows about finding friends. Oh my god, And isn't that hard enough, you know? Especially, it's like there's still this, you know, the global pandemic. We all came out of it. We all acted like you know, you ever look around the world, go what the fund is going? What happened is very much happened, and a bunch of unwell people got released back into the wild. And it's like, fine, love find love. I'm still figuring out how to socialize, you know, how do you make friends as an adult? That's hard. It was easier as his kids, you know, And so yeah, that's that's what I would like to see a show where you just you know, to two adults finding a friendship in each other, where groups of people being like I found a friend out of this, and this is very very interesting. It is kind of funny, like it has there ever been a reality show that's like finding your friend? Well, there was a reality show. I think it was Paris Hilton's new best friend. Yeaheah, yeah, she doesn't need the friends, she doesn't need the friends, and I think you're talking about something else, skilled But it's like a reality show about who can make the most friends, just maybe, or who's the best socializer like that. It's like, well, actually it was I was more talking about people who might be having a hard time making friends. Yes, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's not like a craven thing. It's not like, although I do think that's a different show which is really fun. This is like it's people who moved to a new city who do not have any friends that and they want to find friends. I also think there is something fun about this idea of it's a reality show which is like hidden camera and there's like three contestants and they have to make as many quote unquote friends at the end of the season, and then at the end of the season they have to sit down with their friends and say I started this not really wanted to do and like that's kind of interesting. It's like if you were given ten people at random, and you, as the contestant, had to make friends with as many of them as possible, even if you didn't like them, had nothing in common, and then you have to tell them at the end the only reason you tried their friendship was so that you could win like a million dollars. That's kind of fun. That's you gamified it. Now that's a game show, because you know that's what they're looking for. Now. They want like you can't just do like you know, half hour like a game show type reality shows they want like lifestyle the mole uhle like social type. I guess the Circle is sort of like that. It's about tricking people, but yeah, there's something about just like in a post pandemic world, how do you like get people to socialize again in a meaningful way? Yeah? Yeah, where it doesn't have to be about like romantic you know, maybe that'll come or like, okay, if you get married off a show like Love is Blind, Yeah, how are you going to get married if you don't have friends? Who's gonna plan you know what? He's gonna introduce you to people? We assume that that's a thing that everyone has. And you know, maybe I'm opening up, but yeah, it's it's a new thing that I'm kind of realizing and talking about because I'm like, you know, yeah, how do you find friends as an adult? Just through work? It's well for me, I always like I make friends through my friends, you know what I mean? Like and honestly, like that's been from having friends for a long time. But I've only had I think I have like probably between four and five friends that I've had for like a really long time, even my friend for really long time, Sudi. And then like when I moved to Los Angeles, like I made all my new friends that I know through Joel, who was one of my old friends, you know what I mean, And then you've met some of them through me. But that's interesting if you did not have you didn't have a circle or like, yeah, exactly, that's a tough thing. Yeah, everything turns into high school again, especially if it's a new space ye're entering, you know, and people might be like, oh no, it's okay, I already have five you know. Yeah, I don't know. There's nothing that bothers me more than the idea that people are lonely. I know, like that really hurts. I get very like emotional about that, the idea that like, you know, I take for granted the fact that like, in fact, I think that's the most important thing in my life is friendship, and so like I get really sad when I think about people that don't have at least a person or a couple of people that they can like talk to. And so I'm like love, love is actually you can do that. But like a you know, someone who call and be like, oh that date didn't work. Out you know what, why you got to settle down for love immediately? Romance? There's just so many shows about that. I'm like, they've got it covered totally. You can technically get through life without falling in love, you can't really get through life without a meaningful friendship. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And there's also the idea that like there are specific apps for having sex, dating all these things, but like in terms of like friend apps, like I'm sure they exist, but there's something almost like there's like a self consciousness that I would feel being on an app to make friends that I wouldn't totally because at least you know what the endgame of like a romantic thing is, right, Like you either want to have sex with someone, date someone, marry someone, build a life with someone. Like it's limited things with friendship, It's like, yeah, I want to friend, to get coffee with, get lunch with, go on vacation with. It's really open endedn't like you don't really know you know so, But I guess another thing is like that's why people joined the community activities. Sure, right, no, totally, but that's why people play pockleball. Sorry sorry, pickleball. I know which is like such a thing. I feel like it's back and the guy everyone's doing it and uncle picked it up. There's a show called Pickled coming out really Well. Ferrell, our daddy Will Ferrell is on it. Yeah, I think my daddy Tig is on it. Your daddy Kelly Rowland is on it. Really yeah. Celebrity pickleball. Yeah. Do you think Kelly's gonna be good? But she's gonna be amazing? Yeah? Yeah. Stephen Colbert hosts hosting I'm gonna watch watch celebrities playing a silly quote unquote sport. It's not silly, it's just like it's a very loaded sport. Like it's like people have such you say the word pickleba on people like are ready to go off? It's like the new Dodgeball or yeah. I just stoat of Beyonce and Kelly like checking in with each other on a phone call and Kelly being like, girl, when is the tour happening? One of the one of the visuals coming, and Beyonce being like they're coming, and and what's up with you? What She's like, Well, Pickled is about to start. Good luck, Kelly is going to be so good? Yeah? Thanks, And you know they're they're gonna part of me with Will Farrell. Oh, I love Will Farrell. Who's in He's in some of my favorite movies. Alright, girl, I'll talk to you later. Yeah, I'm here with my favorite, my idol, Stephen Coolbert like there. Yeah, how Stephen. He's really good at different such a different world. I saw her in a movie recently, right where she plays a mom, Kelly Rode. She's always been the actors wonderful actress. She's always been the actress out of the two of them. Yeah. Shi Williams was in that Lifetime movie. Oh I didn't watch that. Yeah, I was Tina Knowles. Well, okay, that's what I'll be watching tonight. I'm gonna start TikTok. You watch the Lifetime movies. Matt, what are you gonna do tonight? I'm gonna watch another episode of The White Load. Yes, wrong answer. You have to upload something on uploading ghos. Yes, perfect. We all have our agendas. Yeah, we really do. What an incredible episode this was, and so were The Intruder December on HBO and you can watch it on HBO via HBO Max henceforth afterwards. That's right, that's right because earlier on Yeah, before we started this whole thing, the first fighting words towards But when was that he gives off android vibes? And then you said I was on HBO Max. No, let the record show it's HBOS the intruder. You know, we're saying, who says originals? I was like, HBO Max Max Max originals, Yeah, they do. I love that. I feel like I'm like really activating when I log on. It's like all my atoms are coming together into one body. It's not my favorite streamer that has of course that with me Peacock, But um, I think now we're just out. He's an HBO Max employee and you're both HBO employees. I'm employees of them all. I'm an employee of Showtime and I am an employee of HBO. I'm an employee of Netflix when they want me to. And of course I went down with a quickly ship and so did you? Did you? But to I never saw the light of day, Oh my god. And it never came out. I just shot the pilot. Shot the pilot Let's Go outsco is supposed to be a quickly original shot the pilot well, and yet still you stand both of you, my legends, thank you, and now we have to sing a song to close the episode about overcoming. When I think of it, football bass, there were times, there are times when a few baby baby, and if you want to hear the rest of that, and listen to Janet Jackson's discography Velvet Rope actually that I was on and control, which is what I think of you. There's two options, and listen to the Lady Professor to soundtrack. Bye.