Look mad, oh, I see you? Why and look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding dong love culture calling bow Matt, you were saying to me right before our guests joined us in the zoom that you were as I wipe away tears, you were, well, we'll get we'll get to that, but we're gonna get to it. Before you said you were overserved last night. Oh yeah, I was overserved last night. I went to Drag the musical in Hollywood and I was starting starring Alaska and Jan and all the all the girls were tearing it up. And I also should also say the true gag was that Joey McIntyre of New Kids on the Block was in it and looking good for sure first of all, but sort of the big headline is I was really overserved. And so I woke up this morning feeling, you know, sort of that malaise, that that hung over sort of spirit. But then I was I was truly lifted out of my funk by what can only be described as the season finale of this of the show that was sorry but created by our guests. But we're gonna get to it. We'll get to it. I think you might be someone who okay, here we go prescribing no, no, no, you you are repopularizing the word over served. It's one of my favorite things to say, and it's I think it's perfect. I think I have not heard anyone but use use that word. It's very much carcass out. It's very Derek Kevensley. And last night I ordered a Belvedere on the rocks carcass out, not carcass out. I just did a vokat a Belvedere Martini with the lemon, but the carcass was in Okay, with the carcass with the carcass carcass was at the party. I'm very curious for you to order something carcass out, just to see if it work, if people even get it. Seems to work every time it's captured on camera on that and I don't have the carcass out. Thankful you can take the carcass out. I'm just what it's so funny. But what I love about saying you're overserved is in places blame elsewhere you understand. So it's not you that served yourself. I was overserved, like it's sort of when you get the vapors, you understand. I was overserved. Yeah, it's a little passive voice. But that's okay voice for you. You as a writer should no better. But here we are, well speaking of writing. Have you seen, um, what current events are happening as we speak, of course as always and um did you see that? It's become a meme. Taylor Swift's role in Amsterdam in the film gets hit by a car. Well, she doesn't get hit by a car, because she gets pushed in front of a car and is run the hell over by a car and she screams like this, she doesn't bow when Yang scream to it. She goes. She's it's like really intensive, crazy bodied bowen Yang scream and you know what I'm talking about. Well, it's actually a perfect segue into our guest, Oh my god, it is, isn't it? Is it? Not? It is? Because can I just say first, that was your stars born moment, That was your Lady Gaga star, that was my moment, Hallow and Abby and a lot over my brands, like, that's actually amazing. Your story is so textured and rich. Bow. I remember this day like the back of my hand, the day that I walked onto set a little show called broad City legendary. The first thing I ever booked, and I did a scream on my first job. Unbelievable. Lucian Yellow Directed got the teller that I was a huge fan of Polly Lou and Real House south of South Boston, remember the South Boston God, and it was one of the best ways in my life. I took myself out to Rice two riches after I wrapped. Had to cancel on Joel Kim Booster because we were both doing it was it was some show God, the ghost of our past. Joel Kim Booster. Wow, what a ghost? What ghost? But God? I mean, I knew to like bottle that day up and I can just on cap it. Thank you so much, Thank you so much, Mama, Thank you mama. Okay, So, anyway, you just watched the finale of a leak of their own. Oh God, my carcass was wet with the cars in, the cars was all around. I'm telling you, first of all, it's been very baseball vibes lately. Can we say, because it's very last night, honey, Yes, they did, and we don't tell you sports on last we don't talk about sports. Um shout out lemon, will shout out Lemon weel we love. Can we say there was a sort of Mets game that went for five hours? Can tell you the crew at SNL was glued to the screen during the cold open. I was about to walk out, and I go, guys, guys, I'm about to perform. I'm bon yank, I said, guys, you should be hating to my every need. But I was supposed to go to the Mets game on Monday and we got rain out. Oh damn it. And that's one of the worst things that can happen at a baseball game is a rain out. Absolutely, get it right. It's so demoralizing, so demoralizing, really ruins the whole day. It ruins the whole vibe. It actually ruler culture at number seven when the baseball game it's so demoralizing, ruins the whole day. Well listen, bo, it's been very baseball because the playoffs. Congrats to the mess. I guess they continue on. Um. You know I used to be a hardcore Mets fan. You. Matt Rogers wrote an entire sketch about David Wright period period. My first stch I ever wrote comedy sketch. It's no funny that in this in this episode where sort of Hillary Duff going back to the beginning, back to where they are the Son that Stars All Alive. Yeah, so this is what I love about Bow and Yang always knows the Hillary Duff lyric period. I mean, what else? What else do you needed a best friend? Anyway? This series a League of their Own, which was actually based on the classic film of the same name, based on the Dorrick Rockford Peaches period period. Maybe you've seen your O G film with the iconic petty Lori Petty, thank you for because there is Lori Petty eraser And sometimes you don't say Lori Petty first, and sometimes you can say Lori Petty first. Ask as kid one for the books? Okay, And can I say that there was a moment on Lost Culture where it wasn't before I watched Leave of their Own and after I watched the film, I'm saying the movie, oh yeah, well that's like an unacceptable blind spot. It was one of the first things I watched in the pandemic and I was like, I completely get like. I was like, I feel like I feel like it's the nineties. I feel like I feel like I saw this in the theater. I didn't let's get facts facts straight, because you would have been sorry, but one year old. Just to date, you would not have been let inside the the No, you would have been way too young. But what what what's so great about the film is it lives on Okay, and so basically this series um which watch now on Amazon Prime, excellent series. It is so good. It also not only does a star and was created by our guests, but it also stars I mean, this podcast single favorite person, Darcy Cardon, and I have to tell you. Yesterday on Twitter, Darcy posted a photo of herself and our guest, and I retweeted it with little horny devil emojis. Returned to Twitter, there was an explosion. People acted like, oh my god, is this happening? Is this person a guest? And I was just like wow, people are clamoring, and then I realized, yeah, because it's a moment of history, moment of his No, I don't believe. So I'm so present and it's literally here. My carcass is so alert, carcass gone, carcass present, living body is in. Can we just say this is a major You know, our guests obviously from the series, only get their own If you haven't watched yet, you absolutely must, and of course iconic broad City, amongst other things. I mean, this is just it's a it's a moment, bo it's a moment, and we're so excited she's here. So crack your knuckles. Everyone, please welcome Jacobs. Wow. Oh my god, that's that was so hard not to like giggle in. Yeah, I love that and love the intro of the whole carcass out. We're happy your car is happier because because also not for nothing, but while we were speaking, I found myself smiling and sort of having in a fabulous time because I saw you smiling and fact, what's called a stars smile. You were literally a fucking superstar in this show. You're so good in this Abbey Wow. Thank you truly means so much from you, guys. I have been very nervous for obvious reasons about this show. So, I mean, and your thing, Yeah, the most potentially one of the most biggest films. Yeah, so I'm like, we'll see what happens. Yeah, what did this is what I wanted to ask. What did it feel like when you got to set and saw you guys all on the outfits that had to be Psycho. Oh it was. It was wild, and we built a stadium. We built a stadium because it has to Yeah, because it has to be you know, nine stadium. I mean, we did the pilot in Los Angeles and even then we're not in the Peaches uniforms where we're all in like try out gear like the pilot uniforms, and you're it's so bizarre. I mean I always felt that way on broad City to like even just like being I'm like, what are we doing like this set? But that is just bizarrere in like old timing. Yeah, because this this is a different process. I mean, first of all, the process from going I have an idea, yuh of where this scene should take place or what what this plot line should be, and then like the moment from that when you walk onto a set is like so bewildering to anybody, especially like I don't know, like and I feel like it's this is a different layer that I have, Like I feel like doing period is this whole other layer on top that I like don't have any insight on. What was that? What was that? What was what? What What surprised you the most? Yeah, it's very very different, Like I mean on Broad City. It's you guys could imagine it's like we're gonna you're in New York and it's like us amplified and we're wearing like different clothes. But like you know, it's very like easy to imagine, like we're in New York exactly do we want to be? And this was like, I mean, so Will Graham asked me to do this with him and we'd started we were yeah, and we've been working on it since. So it was like a very long time imagining what it would be. And then you also there is no I'm so used to being like location driven and then where that and like this is just like we will make it up, like someone will build it. That's so not my Yeah, it's a whole new ball game, period and that's where the baseball it really is in the air about and that's where it is. Were you a baseball fan or were you like did you have to become one? Like because it's very baseball league. They're own very much, so if you don't know the game, it would be tough. Yeah, I mean I know the game. I played softball as a kid. I'm not like a huge fan, like truly, you guys talking about the Mets. I'm like, yeah, no, no, I know that's the big game last night. Yeah I'm not. Yeah. And I used to go to a lot of Phillies games as a kid. I'm from Philly, and I mean I've been to a lot of games. I knew it. And I love the movie and I think I played a lot of sports as a kid. So I like the team aspect and like this world that we're in is very much team driven like film and TV. It felt very meta, like I can I can take my experience of like team and be like on this team. You know. Um, but I did learn a lot about baseball. You look very natural playing like you have everyone you have. The swing is you know what's funny, Like my dad, my dad is a baseball coach and he was for years and years. Yeah, so my dad was a varsity baseball coach and so I played for years. And there's these little things I remember, like foundationally about like stances and like how to hold your arms and like swinging. And I was watching and I was like, everyone really did get this right. Like it's a very lived in, like authentic baseball playing. That's great to hear because that was sort of like, you know, when you're casting Darcy is actually really good. But I mean, you know, there's a lot of people that I was friends with that we cast, and a lot of people I didn't know, but you sort of had to the acting trump. I don't even like using that as like a acting over. Chat had. It was more important than the baseball actual skills. So some some are better than others. And we did we did a lot of training with real players so that whatever position people were playing, they like had the they had the stances, and they could could feasibly look like they were doing it. And then there were devils and there were visual effects, yes, yes, but it all looked like I was like, oh, caper Land can like really like great. How Kate is like the growth of that character is like so necessary. She's like the steaks for my character, the like sort of immediate steaks, there worldly steakes. But I just love Shirley. I mean, she's amazing, what a great character. And so that's another I miss named her Shelby. I'm so sorry, listen, I actually I thought you were talking about just Shelby. I'm calling myself in Okay, sorry, carcass In but wait, I mean yeah, sure for for Sureley and Carson to have this inner personal um, to have the stakes be interpersonal like that rather than because the global stakes of it are like very very apparent and obvious to anybody watching and who understands like what queerness is, you know, like what it was back then, and like it just it just made it so so so clear and so easy to track and very emotionally, I don't know, just like very very powerful and like and just yeah, not to spoil too much, but there's a there's a moment at the end in the finale where it all sort of comes to a head in a way that's so like it's son and true and like and just relieving in a way that I'm like, yeah, yeah, everyone's fight for that scene. Really, it's so funny where I'm like, this is important, she needs to be I'm not want to reveal it because it's like she's doing like such a dumb thing or like such a basic thing. But I'm like, no, no no, no, this is like her growth, Like this is so dumb, but it's so personal. Yeah, People who have not watched it are like, what the you're talking about? Basically what we're saying everyone is a character, is set up and guess what it pays off. You're gonna and you're gonna love the way you look. I guarantee it. But what I really like wanted to compliment, like you on and this whole show on was that sense of danger. So basically, you know, for everyone that is aware of the original film from it's really um it's it's a beautiful film, but it sort of doesn't really get into the reality of like the fact that many of these women were likely queer, and like we're dealing with the sort of moral question of how far do I step into what I want to do and what my talents are, what my gifts are, what my instincts are, what my humanity is, and how much do I literally play by the rules of the world that I'm in, which is, you know, I'm married, women are expected to do certain things. And basically what I loved about this show is that when these women do start to act on their queerness or start to respond to the call in their body to like, you know, follow these urges and these instincts, the sense of danger that that surrounds them was so deeply felt, and I just had to have to complement the direction, because every every toss of a glance over your shoulder, like every closed door, every whisper, it just it was so present throughout what a difficult experience being queer was at this time, and being a woman at this time, being a person or a black woman at this time. You know, it's incredibly um, it's it's just so present in the entire series, and you never lose sight of the fact that these women are risking so much just by being who they are. Every second. Well, I'm so happy you saw you felt that, and and we were really trying to make sure that was felt because it's also like that's still the case in so many parts of the world, Like we're living in a I often feel like my ability to be openly queer is like I take it for granted, and I in doing this show, I was so like, right right, right, right right, constantly like, um, we're very lucky to be alive right now, I think, and um, but also we're really trying to show that danger in the stakes and what the world was like and what was not allowed, while also showing the joy because like being queer, when ever you have been alive was also so joyous and we all we found each other, you know, and so it was like trying to juggle both those things. There's a line I think that like it blew my mind. It's Bertie. Basically, there's a character named Bertie and they're talking to their sister and basically are saying, Um, the sister is saying, I just wanted to keep my daughter safe, and then Bertie says safe isn't safe for some of us and not just like it's that's it's it's all right there in that line, I think, and like that's like woven into the entire show, and um, it's just it's just so wonderful and you guys, yeah, like Matt s had captured it so well. Thanks guys. No, we have no idea television right now. Television isn't it really is? I don't know. I'm also, yeah, I've never this is like it's Amazon. It's like decided by men in the sky. I don't always even I'm like, they'll let us know. It's like, you know, all the people we directly work with are like we love it, we didn't want it, and they're like we're waiting for like the message to be like sent down from like Seattle, I don't know whatever. These people exist, Yeah, yeah, it's it's like it's tricky. Also, so you've known Darcy for a while obviously, did you know Darcy prior to Broad City? Like did you did you guys cross past a bunch at UCB or just in the scene we met in a commercial acting class. Um well, I mean Darcy says this, had said this, like during our pressure on so much that it kept cracking up where she was like I knew Abby, and I thought no one will ever see like no one, like she says it better than that, but like I was so shy and not confident as a performer and couldn't really we find my way at UCB, which is why neither could Alana, which why we created broad City because we were like, I guess we can't perform, like we can't, and like we were auditioning for commercials and it was just like not we weren't, I don't know, and we created this thing over here. But Darcy and I were in this acting class, you know, one where you were like read you'd like read the copy and everyone was like watch you read the copy of the and then like dissect you and like and then you had to write one one we can come in And I did that this really weird thing and no one got it. Darcy was like she's brilliant. Wow, she's brilliant and no one will ever see her. Yes, I have an honest question though. Okay, so like meeting Darcy aside, do you do you feel like that was worthwhile at all? That that? Yes? That that like like because it sounds mortifying and I go, I don't know, like would you would you go back and do it like like if you had to do it all over again? I guess me. I guess I would because it's all these classes and all this like effort that I was putting into like try and do what I thought, like the performers that you see be we're all like the way in which you like were successful. It like built up to me being like fuck this, like I'm gonna go over here and do do this with Alana because so I guess I needed to do all those things. I don't think it helped me get a commercial see me on commercials? No, you know what they always said in commercial like commercial acting or whatever is like it has to be so small and thrown away. Like I remember, like you literally go into if anyone ever listening every audition for a commercial like this or did it? This is what it is. You go in, you say one line with with no energy, and they're like perfect or terrible, and then you leave and you don't know what it was that you did didn't do. It's so stid. It's the worst. They line you up, they line you up. I did my life. It's the worst. And I'm always just like I'm not wearing the right things so much about the look or yeah, I don't know, it really feeds. It's like I was. It's almost like a version of cutting is auditioning for me. You're like, well, this is just me like getting affirmation I shouldn't be doing this. But wait, okay, And I don't know, I don't know how long it's been since you've heard this sentiment though, And I feel like you guys got it so much like during during the show, during the TV show Brought City, But it really was this like paradigm shifting thing of you and of you and a Lana like working venturing outside of like the parameters of UCB. Because I think like it was this you know, I'm grateful for you CB. I'm grateful for the time I spent there in the classes I took um. I I can never hack it into the house teams there myself, but but I felt like I felt a little bit braver going out and doing my own thing because of you guys. Do you know what I mean? That's like it like it really it really opened up. So it liberated this thing and like took a hammer to the like not the system, but just like the concept that like you needed this one place in order to like elevate success into some some other level. And like I never like once Broad City was fully out of his like and then you know, I was just like, oh, like, well, like I can do my own version of this. It's not gonna look exactly like that. I'm not like, I don't think I'll have my own Comedy Central show that I like start or EP or right for, but like I can try to like weave through and dance around all these other things. I love that. I mean, that's that's like the that makes me feel so good and I'm so I mean, I don't even know what to say. That's part I feel it really I love that because it really was for us, Like we were never trying to do that, and I us even getting this show, I think we thought, we'll do the web series and we'll like maybe get hired as writers again. Like the confidence was never there that like real real star, because like I can't even do a rece's PCs commercial successfully in a class you're trying to work at the rec's PCs commercials, Like what is that everything anyway? Like I can't even Yeah, So that was never it was really just about you know, what it gave, If anything, what I'm hearing, which I hope is like it unleashed, Like wait, maybe my voice is actually different and funny enough to like make a thing that doesn't fit in here. And that's like what we were like, whoa, let's just let's just like run with what feels right, Like you're just going with your gut when you're making your own thing, and I don't know, like over here, I felt like we're trying to conform. Yes, every single thing you do adds up to like the totality of who you are and like gets you going. That's why I asked about like the worth, the worthiness, the worthwhileness of the commercial audition class because it's like you is worth it because you met. I mean, let's just there's nobody to separate the Darcy thing from it either exactly where I'm like that and Darcy has been one of my best friends for that was like fifteen years ago and Darcy was on bread City and like, Darcy is just like so in my life listen, I didn't I didn't ever really be like I think I would write a thing where I'm like falling in love with Darcy, but also everyone is in like isn't she that everyone that Darcy mean, you love her, you commediately fall in love. So when we were writing that, I was like, that's that hert that's the Greta, Like she's got something about her that, Yes, she is an avalanche of charm. It is so correct, I know. But yeah, I guess Darcy alone take the class period. She should be the course. She should have said the teacher's carcass is gonna be out carcass out? Have you ever heard of carcass out? No, I'm I'm trying to it together. Yeah, this is this is like insane. I'm like, is this from a like reality? I almost am like it from a Housewives where they're like, I want the roast chicken carcass out, Okay, very close, it's very close. Okay, it's like a meal where they're like, please remove the any remnants of like that. It's like an animal or not a meal, a cocktail and you guess the car that you were moving the carcass is the yes, yes, yeah, there is a carcass out. Yea, exactly. Okay, there's wild though, right yeah, it's kind of like a wild thing for someone to order that kind of completely insane just going to an established and saying carcass The word carcass is only describing road kill to me, Like I like, it's so awful and like it's like this altogether, like pretty chic woman named Dorrit who is the one doing it, and she has like this weird, fake little British accent she speaks in so the show is obsessed with her ordering drinks because she goes, I'll have a kettle soda and squeeze a line and carcass out, thinking, of course, carcass out. I'm so good. It's really and so I'm just saying, like we should all go out and start ordering this so that we can start watch servers be like, excuse me. Also, I was I was like thinking about I was like, are you saying I think you're saying overserved, like I've been overserved alcoholic later that like like in terms of alcohol. But then I was like, maybe he's talking about like I was overserved, like attitude by someone. I love that MoMA, she over served me last night. Let me tell you, yes, of course, I mean that could I'm going to start doing that. Yeah, when I go out, I'm ordering drinks the carcass out and talking about how they a rude person over served me. Yeah, served by that made or date. Let me tell you right now, it's a very versatile word. I was so verse, bo so verse should we ask that question? Because you know, I bet a lot of people, a ton of people would even say their culture that made them say culture was for them, was a league of their own, like it is so that that iconic of a thing, and so like I was thinking about you were saying earlier about being nervous for it to come out because it is so beloved, you know what I mean, Like, no one's going to be like, well, I'm gonna watch this with no opinion, Like people people were like, let me see how you ruined my favorite playing. You know, but it's I think when you watch it, you're like, it's very different. Yes, just such an intentional different thing. Yeah, it really is. And all that aside. So we asked every guest that comes on the show this question, and Abby Jacobson, we are asking you, now, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? I'm gonna say um, and this is like I'm gonna say Bowen. It was SNL. Wow whatever. So I used to watch I mean I was very on like I was like doing the characters of like um, like the cheerleaders and that was like my middle school. But I was like Gil. I'm like guilda Guild Like. I would watch reruns with my parents and like old like when they would replay I was very like Cast of seventy six. Yeah, it was like O G and like Guild A Live. I was like very like GUIL, Like I don't know. SNL was my parents favorite show. They would like get high and donuts when they were like young and like like falling in love is what they told me. And then it was like such a big deal to us, right, Yeah, yeah, so it was very much so seventies six was that was that like the New Orleans No, I know, but like to think it's like the first year, right, and and then I think that New Orleans was like the second season or something. I like whatever, Like there's one episode they went to maybe I'm not no, no, no, I know, isn't isn't. The only time ESNL hasn't been in New York was for this New Orleans episode And it was the second scenes that after like after like the original like not ready for part time players, like blew the funk up and like they were mobbed in the streets of New Orleans. And then Lauren was like, We're never doing this again and anyway, but Guild Alive, okay, so have I think I might have talked about this on the podcast. I fall asleep almost every single night to touch me with my clothes on? What is that? Honey touched me on the clothes out. It's the song that Guild the Things and Guild Alive. It's like the sweetest love song and it's a little dirty. It's by It's it's it's a cover. I think it's a cover. I might be a cover. I think where I'm confusing it with sing like animals, the animals, Let's talk to your to the animals. She does that at the top of the show Guild Alive is just touched me with the clothes. It is honey um, just the sweetest and she like opens the song and Guild Alive by being like whatever, I'm not like, I don't mean to like school anybody on like Guilda, but it's like it is so It's crazy how timeless that is, Like how there will always be a place in people's hearts for that, no matter what age they are or like you know, like what their sensibility is. Like guild Is Builda had that thing of just like you're gonna love her. You're like you can't. You can't put up your you can't put up too much of a of a fight against like the guilded charm of it all. Yeah, because it was so and I mean, maybe that's cliche of me to say is like my pop culture thing, because it does. It was just like SNL as a whole, and then Guild Us sort of like later when I I mean I we had to like build we had to paint for this class like like our heroes and they were going to be in the library and it was like people like no one knew that was my age. I was like teen, No one knew who Guilda was. My dad like helped me make a life size would cut out of Rosanna Rosanna Danna and she was in the library like next to like JFK or like everyone else person where I know, I know, but yeah, I don't know SNL as a whole and like I was, I would do UM. I performed coffee talk a lot. I was like I had a whole. I think that the tape still exists of me doing Linda Richmond. Yeah, that was really when you wanted to jump into It was very If you ask anyone I grew up with, they would probably identify my cultural. Yes, I'm just saying, like it's so like Saturday Night Live like it. It really does have this it's mono culture. I mean everyone knows it and exists with it, and I think, like that's part of what I don't know, Like it's it's interesting that truly every single person like has like a formative thing with it. And it's just it's funny because obviously Bowen being on the show, now I've gotten to obviously go. I'm sure we've all been, and it's like it's so fascinating because it's so much of that building that you think they would never ever do this again, you know what I mean, No show is ever going to come around and get that much budget, time, attention, the mythology of it, like it really is like it's his story, not only because of its cultural impact, but also because of just the magnitude of the operation. It is just it is never to be duplicated. And that's something I think that's really sunken in recent years is you know, especially like working in the industry and understanding how hard it is to make even like a small scale thing. This is such a huge footprint that it will never ever happen again. And that's that's sort of interesting. It's one of those last vestiges of monoculture in that way where it's like getting all of that push effort the eyes because you couldn't afford to do it again. I mean, wasn't there something I hear you're talking about like you would you would like act out spartans and you would like do coffee talk did the same thing, And I was I want to say, does this make sense that like it gave you away as a kid to like latch onto something commedically and have it be like, have be validated by the fact that maybe maybe that it's validated by the fact that it's on SNL and that that that it's also um cool and fun and silly rather than quoting back like a stand up like comedians joke. Okay, this is how comedy was shared when we were When when I was growing up, right, it was like either it was an SNL sketch that like people would talk about the next day, or like you put on like the best of Will Ferrell like a sleepover literally, or when I was in high school, it was like, oh my god, we gotta listen to this Dane Cook album, this Dane Cook guy, which I'm saying like those are like both like very common valid ways to share comedy too, like in terms of like a younger generation not in our generation at least, and I feel like SNL at least gave you like a way in besides like a comedy film two I don't know, like try it on for size, see if you because I was obsessed with Adam Sandler's comedy album I'm a little older. Maybe I don't know that when that camp, which was like so bizarre that I'm like, I haven't listened to that in a long time. Not sure where that. Yeah, but I would never like do it. I wouldn't like like perform his but SNL gave me and I didn't. I didn't think I realized that this until right now, I was like able to identify like the game of the character and like do it like because when I would do Coffee Talk, I wasn't like doing that sketch. I was like doing my own sketch. Like I basically like wrote a new Coffee Talk. And with SNL, with the characters, you felt like you were like I understand this, Like I'm like I don't know. I'm like I'm doing it too. I don't know. Yes, yes it's funny. But I did the same thing. Like there was there was elements of it that were ripped, like in terms of dialogue, like I was doing the jokes. But then there was like we were on a family vacation, I remember, and it was like me and all my cousins and I was like okay, and like but just give them something to do. I would make up a character for them to come play a walk on and the sketch starring me as Linda Richmond. So it was a ripped character, but like we had like things happening, Like I remember, like remember like there was the like grandmother in that sketch. I think was it was it Ron it was playing it never my sister was Madonna comes in but no, no Rosanna Madonna and making me hungry girls that yeah, but iconic. But I remember my sister wanted a bigger part, so I wrote more lines for the grandmother and she was saying, she was saying, she's from Scottsdale. We didn't understand that way. We didn't understand that thing, but like you do it because and I also think what you said about your parents loving it says it is a big thing because it's a way to sort of bea in with you think your parents are so cool when you're when you're younger, or like you know what I mean, are like older people in your life that love this that it's like an aspirational cool thing to know, like you're all in on the inside joke, even if you don't really get it, you know. Yeah, And I do think like you even from a young age. You guys probably experienced it to you, Like laughter is you can tell if something if laughing is like the levels of laughter. You can tell if there's like a fake laugh or if there's a real laugh. So if your parents are really laughing with you, it's a different thing. Yeah, intoxicating. Yeah, it's like you just you chase that for the rest of your life almost, yeah, depending on like, yeah, how it how it hits the or like at what age and oh wow, Abby, that's great. It's so you're not part of a legacy. You really are. Do you ever just in your and look at yourself in the mirror and say, I'm part of a legacy. Look at least you look at your own. Yeah. I always say that. I also love that your character on Fire Island was obsessed. Okay, so let's just clear something so funny. We're not obsessed, but like it just was like kept it was such like a specific, relatable like thing. Yeah, it's like made him real. And then I also just like love that. I'm like, what went on? You know what I mean? Like it was like a psycho Yeah yeah, yeah, Well okay, here's here's what I'll say. Because people are like Oh my god, that's such a weird, fucking like masturbratory thing, like you're you're positive that. Like I was the one who was like, maybe he should like us and know, but it was this thing that was in the draft of It was in the earliest draft of the script before I was even on, before I even worked there, and um, it just made it all the people. And I remember being on set also, I think on the day we shot that scene and I was like, is it is it too indulgent if like he says this, and I know I I stand by Joel stands by it, and it's it's Joel's writing. And Joel was like, no, we're keeping it in like because he says, this is how people talk to each other, Like this is how like more people at least, like you know, talk to each other about things. Like we're like, oh my god, like this thing that we quote all the time, is this stupid, incredibly semi obscure thing and whatever, like and also like it's a little shout out to James Anderson. James he wrote all that. So basically like the gays in space thing in in in in Fire Island when Boone's talking about it, years ago, like we we went to go visit Sudie Green, who was a writer at the show, and we were sitting down and there was this writer there, his name was James. We're having a fun little time, like he's like this like hilarious gay guy that's like a writer there. And then randomly were like, do you know the sketch gays in Space? He's like, yeah, I wrote that. And then it turns out he had written all this formative queer like SNL sketch like material that went. And this is the other thing about two is it's like I remember it was so important to me because it was like a way for me to fit in with like the straight guys. It's to be honest, like I I made friends through like quote SNL sketches like those like the drug Apple Tel movies. But like it was really another thing about it was not only did I actually connect with it, but it was a way to connect with each other, like and it's just when you're looking to connect with people, it is really important to have like that shared pop culture like knowledge, and so I thought it really worked. Listen, it is it can be vulnerable and intimate to even talk about obviously that's what you guys like this. There's so much of a podcast that is about that's like what this is. It's like a shared it's like a shared experience to pop culture. But it is such an inn too before you like, as you're getting to know someone. Yeah, but I think, but I think what Matt you're saying is that like they're like it was so important that there was someone like James there at the like and in the time that we grew up, James and Paula and like all the cree people who have ever been at us and now there's always been creep people at us and know what's which I always say, but like it was a way for you to like fit in with people because there was an entry point for almost everybody with SNL where you could like cherry pick like the queer thing and like present that and have everybody like, have everybody be like, oh yeah, that kind of has context with the stuff that we like to And so I think that's the thing, right, Am I making sense? Yeah a little? That's how you make friends. Like I remember, I remember I came into that this is not SNL, this is different, but it was anchorman. I was taking the worst time in high school, the worst, like like in middle school was bad. I was like, really just horrible, no friends, like I was deeply closeted, but like traumatized by that. I remember I went to go see Anchor man. My parents we went to we went to go um to some theme park at like something. I forget what where exactly, but it was rained out, like it was Pennsylvania had the worst rain in decades. What's the what's the Because you're from Dorney Park, thank you? Okay, So we were at Dorny Park. Are you a theme park, queen? No, I mean that's fine, They're fine. I mean I would I think I would like to. I haven't been a while. Maybe not, Yeah, I would love to go with you. Well, I'm basically I was so upset because Dorny Park was rained at. It was the most rain Pennsylvania had. I guess I'm not checking my watch ever had like and so my parents were like, I guess we'll go to the movies. And I was like, I'm so fucking upset and we're going to go see Anchorman. And I remember me and my cousin screaming, laughing because it was immediately quotable, and it was that sort of like big sketch type character and like you know, really essentially that movie is a series of sketches, and it's so when you feel that rhythm and you you get it, Like I remember, I brought it back to school with me, and I guess something. The way I made friends was other people had seen it too, and we could just quote it back to each other. And that's literally, in and of itself, a shared language. Literally. So ye, no one's quoting like I don't know why this movie is coming to me, but like no one's quoting like dramas, like no one's quoting nineteen seventeen. Do we each other? I don't know why. That's hell, I'm the only historical stuff I want to watch. Period stuff I want to watch is World War two era therefore a league of their own? Yeah, okay, that's that's good. That's good. Do you like period stuff? Do you watch like merchant Ivory films? I do, Like I think I'm not um, I'm not like I think I am an equal. I like not like specifically, but I do like period stuff. Yeah, I think it's nice. We are is this period? But the way in which we speak not on per intentionally obviously, people were like people didn't speak like that, you know that really like, yeah, I know one said read the room the room. I was like, give me a oh my god. I am not on Twitter, but I have like chat, you know, I'll like everyone like what's going on? Little vanity certainly saw that. I saw that one by like a prolific writer. Yeah, it's always the prolific writers. That happened. I was like, that was a that was a bummer of the day. I will like find I'm not even on it for this reason, and i will find the worst one and I'll never forget it. Then that all these people hate it and they don't like the way in which I thought speaking more um modern, I felt I found a would be way more um connective to the castors because we're showing we're showing a way more modern lens on, like like you'd never see a period piece where you're like in friendships and in relationships in that way. I don't think. And so if we're going to do that, we're showing queer culture. Let's I don't know. I just like that would be a way smoother way in and I don't want to I don't want to speak like what we usually see a nineteen forties period dialect B or whatever, because it would just sort of obscure, like the dynamics that play that have been sort of timeless and universal, you know, like it's just all along where it's like, oh no, like there there were like relationships like this, and obviously they were not like communicated in this sort of language but like or colloquialism. But at the end of the day, like there was there there were stories like this that happened um in that time and in this setting. Yeah, it was tricky. I definitely like felt I was, but I'm like, you know, where't suck it. The friendships that I think that we that are in the show feel very much like today, and I think that's sort of that was like the goal. So fuck um you know the great writers of today that hated it and TV critics yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. What I wanted to say too is like and obviously like so I'll never forget watching that finale of Broad City, and I was obviously thinking of my sister and like you know what I mean, like you truly do right friendship so beautifully and you can tell it's because you have it so authentically. And I like, I remember when we had a Lana on the podcast, which now is like a few years ago bo like return which do for a return, but I think it was like right around when we were ending. Yes, it was so it was it was very thick like in this this. I remember asking her because I think we all have our own experiences with when you are such a unit and then like there's like a like a divergence, you know, just and you do and it happens in the finale, not just with you know, like with really every parent, and I think it's so beautiful, and I just like I wanted to ask you, like how do you and a lot of stay connected? Like have you stayed connected? Like is it what is it like to go from intense togetherness too then that like sort of beautiful gorgeous like flourishing that both of you guys have done, but still to know that that's something you have to water and maintain. Yeah, you know, it was such a meta thing because I still go back and forth to New York, but I'm definitely more in l A and Abbey. Spoiler alert for anyone who hasn't. Front City is like there, it's geography. It's like Abbe leaves New York and that was that was kind of happening, Like it was so meta, and so it's it's like we do not end up the fact that we don't do the show like we we're not. We were seeing each other every fucking day like she was, and so it has been such a learning curve and um, you know, she has a baby and there's like we're living like such different lives. But I think we go through waves just like sort of any friendship, especially in your thirties. I think where you like there's big life changes and things, and we go in waves of like being way more in touch, and then when we're not, it's like a bigger catchup, you know, and we I mean I always try to see her if she's in town and when I'm in New York, and there's like face times and stuff. But it's like, you know, it's it's like a wave kind of but it does need that watering sure, but it's also like I listen even with this is it was. It also felt so intense to put this new show up because that wait, wait, wait, wait, that's that's my show. And that is like I love this new show and I love the people I made it with and the cast, and but it's like broad City and I said this, it is sort of just like my first love. Well, nothing will ever be like that. It was very pure. I mean I don't I don't know every part of your experience working in it, but I hope you felt like I don't know that was it was just like this different energy of making that show and like so like it felt so d I y and like well like we're I can't we're you know, it was just like nuts. It was. It was the perfect speaking for myself. It was the perfect introduction for me, you know, like it was like reception for like people in New York who just like you know, wanted to like do comedy and work, and like it was you guys provided that. And also, and I will say before I forget Don Finelli and a leak of their own is a plus. And I've always thought he was so the funniest, the most talented person in your comedy and so long his podcast is so so so good. We were we were we were network sisters at one point on Forever Dog. Anyway, I just I think it's and he's so fantastic in the show, you know, he's so good and like Don and I met in an improv team too, Yeah, and like that was one of the best parts about broad City, was like we couldn't. I'm really upset Matt that we never had you on, but it was like this like place where we could. There was like this pool of incredible people and to get to have all these people on. And then I did feel that way in League to a certain extent. But Don, I mean Don that guy, and I really tried to I posted a photo, but his look is supposed to really lean into John Taturo and Barton Fink. I was like, exactly, actually the glasses. I mean, if we had teased his vibes, Don Finelli is tur turtle vibes, I know. And I was really trying to from knowing him then and knowing Darcy then and then you turn around and there's Darcy has like greheta gill, you know what I mean. It's like, like what a bombshell. Also, I could not believe, like even seeing some feedback that people never look at like, never saw Darcy as that type. She's never been cast like that. I mean she's always been gorgeous, but like that type, she was never been in our role and I'm like, here we go, guy's limit I mean it's literally just people saw her in one outfit for six years. I mean that's literally and she you know, like was cyclical in nature and but then like I mean lo and behold, like she gets like those opportunity like that one episode I believe it was like season or five where every version of jam and then you're like, yeah, because some people are limitless, like and it's so great to see like her gut like this not at a crazy fucking part, Like it's so good and what a layered like interesting character, I mean every character, and it's just but I don't know, it's just so great, like it's so I'm so proud to like see it like this, Like it's really it's such a beautiful like it is a love letter to the original in so many ways. And I'll tell you another moment I got really emotional was when you guys sing the song Citiesn't He and far Well that's good. Yeah, we were like are we going to do it? It's it is a thing like I would get emotional, even like I'd be in my house like writing and I can't believe I'm gonna sing. We're gonna we have to sing it, and then like I would always get I mean I've seen it like hundreds of times in posts, but every time it's sort of like we made the decision, but like it goes from a sing into like the game, and I would get chills, and I'm like, I think if I'm still getting chills, like it's like yeah, but yeah, that was wild to sing it. What is the most challenging part? And it has to be because we talked sometimes like about how you know, you see how many people it seems like, are like the creator of their show, the star of their show, the writer of their show, like very involved in every element, to the point where it almost seems like, oh, yeah, that's that's something that seems like very doable and easy. And then you see someone actually at number one on the call sheet who's like a co creator, and see how difficult that is. What is the most challenging part of like the totality of this being your show? You think, um, I let me see to say it's like it's tough. Yeah, just globally. The easiest part for me is the at thing is it perfect? Was such a challenge for me in this part. In an intentional way. I wanted to be able to showcase a little bit more of my range in this and I like, I am not a trained actor and did not go to school for acting. So like I I actually worked with a coach who works with like crazy actors, and I was like, oh, hold on, they work with coaches, Like, um, do you guys know that, like all your favorite actors worked with acting coaches, because that's the secret. I didn't know, and I was like, I was ashamed of it at first, but I really spent a lot of time working with um, this coach, especially on the latter half of the season where it gets super emotional and like you know, all the things sort of like come to a head, and so that was maybe that's the most rewarding part of it, and the most fun is that is acting? For me? Oh maybe maybe the writing, especially for a show like this, and just you know, also it's such a big show, you know, like like an episode of this show is like a season of broad City. Like it's just like grand in scope and scale, and like thinking about like every costume, every place, everything is like huge and just like the arc of creating like stories like that. Also it's um, you know, we talked mostly about like my side of this story, but like the show is also like half Max's story. It's sort of like about just very quickly, it's about like the door for the all American girls professional Baseball League open for like white women and white passing women, which is like my character's journey and Darcy's character and the rest of the Peaches, and then that door closes for all other women of color who can play baseball. And it's like a very quick scene in the film where there's like no dial almost if you blink or cough, you missed the whole scene, but Penny Marshall was trying to allude to it. But like our show, be half of the show is is about uh Max Chapman, who's this black woman who does not isn't even allowed to try out, and like how does she go play professional baseball? And like what's her life like in her world? Like so like making sure that we're really there's like so much responsibility in honoring what that all these experiences would have really been, like so you know, there's a full research department and like research department on Broad City. You know, the test to feel like real and factual, and obviously we're taking liberties with like what these like private conversations and things would be. But it's like based on people. It was like a lot of that. I would have loved to have been on the research department on Broad City and like and got really fun high and went down to the fair Way, you know what I mean. I think it's my all time favorite episode of Broad City. Is that bunny, that insane bunny that follows you around you it's a bunny. This is so funny. I was like, what's the bunny? Um? More like a creature. Yeah, he's voiced by Paul Downs as well. Oh my god, what can't that man hitched up his voice? But no, he's sort of like an imaginary like yeah, he's like yeah, but I guess he does have big years. He doesn't revisiting in my mind. Just now. I was like, it was a bunny to me, But you're right, it is a creature. It exists in its own plane of reality. Oh god, you just had Paul Downs And I'm like, yet again, someone who has been so fucking brilliant from the beginning, and to see them get everything they deserve that happens, Bro, We absolutely love that great. We love to see our favorite carcasses slang. I will say, like, it's a interesting that you are saying that the acting is the easiest part, because I'm sure this all gets sort of worked out in the writing beforehand. But it's like Carson is sort of the hub with all these different spokes that go out to different care Like I think Carson has to like play out all these relationships throughout the season between like Greta and Max and Shirley and like oh my God, and like and and and Beverly del Dickie Dicky, She's incredible, Like I can do anything. Some of those scenes were my favorite scenes. Well, we met Deale Dickie in Provincetown and I Dale Dickie came over to our side of the tables. I guess I have a conversation with like literally John Donald was this insane dinner we were at and I just go, I just go, Dale Dickie, you are an icon. It so great to meet you. And she goes, yeah, And I was like, I actually loved my life. No, I genuinely because I'm like Boon yang to you know what I mean, I'm always saying that bitch. That means you are a part of legacy. You have to look at yourself in the mirror and stroke your face because you're really are part of the legacy. That Dale fucking Dicky the icon. She was just such a good vibe. We met her very briefly that you can tell she's just like sweet, like funny, like the the most incredible actor truly, I mean truly, like an like an unsung hero of the craft. Like it's really wild. And I loved her character too because I you don't think about like the chaperoning of the time. That was another element of it that was so crazy is that and that had to be something that you were discovering too, and like the research of it all. Yeah, they were a big part of it also, Like it's so funny. There was a scene we're all like cheers ng at the end and it's O Kate, like you know, we're you know, they're chaperoneing. Like the girls were younger, like in real life, like right before we'd be like they'd be like all right, we're rolling in actually and Kate would turn him and like we're forty, we're all like the chaperone comes in and it's like it is and she's like reporting we're all for like we're like you so old, like you know, the chaperone was there for like like it's younger. They were like a little bit of arranged like year olds don't need a chaperone. But I guess in the forties, like it was more we're all in our thirties. But you know, it's like what is happening. We're drinking. You know. Also, I have to just go back because I know people are going to be like, well, you say the acting was easy, maybe you should have done it better. You know. That's like my my like thought process. And I don't mean easy, I just mean like maybe the like most um it came naturally my most I think it was the most like um exciting part, like the most like the fun part rather than easy. Yes, I apologize for miss you know, I think I said easy person. I'm like what they're going to come and give me because I said I was saying that. It's surprising because I feel like you you did just you Yeah, you were really good in the show. You really were you were excellent. I remember my dad. My dad like watched it right when it came out, and he was like, she's incredible, Like my Long Island, she was incredible. She's incredible. Oh my god. I think he thinks he thinks that, like, um, we have known each other for three decades. I know, but there's a thing about like I kind of feel like we do also because there's like there's like this grouping of people that I feel that way about that like sort of are like I don't know, like do like we're like do you know what I'm saying? Up around when a lot of came in, we felt we we all sat down, we were it was an old girl, it was old girlfriends. It was it was knowing each other first, like I said, three decades never and I remember it was so funny. We we literally we literally um we left like that podcast recording and it was me bowing and Alana all holding hand saying this is just the beginning. And then the pandemic happened. Like it was so funny. We were like, this is the beginning, Like that was it was. She was being so funny and alanau like this is the beginning of something incredible and then like the pandemic and I'll never I'll never see it. Cat girl, Oh she's the best, She's the best. Oh wait quickly, I want to say. I was thinking of my sister Matt Rodders in the scene where in the scene where Max and Plants say goodbye, I was making me cry so hard. I was crying at that because it reminded me of the moment Matt and I were at Little Field the day before I was starting to work at S and Now, and it was just the moment we both like looked into each other's eyes and we're like okay, like we're sending each other off into like our own separate ways, and like who knows, Like who knows when this will all happen, you know, like who knows what will happen next? I don't know. I immediately flashed to that, Matt, did you know you know what I'm I'm stobbing on control beyond control um, but like you know what it was, It was like I remember, I'll never forget. Like there was like Bowen was getting he was deciding whether or not to take the job pretty much, and he called me and I was in the subway and I was going to meet up with Sudi. I was like, and you were, and you were like you had said this, you were like, I'm going to take the job, like and because we were scared that it would like stop things that we were doing, which in retrospect like it's so wild, like helping turn out. But but I remember, yeah, sure, got on the subway to go meet up with Sudi, our our dear friend, Sutie who's also worked at SNL, And I sat down at dinner with her, and I was just like sitting in the experience of like watching him get this like dream and like like knowing that he was going to go on to like beautiful, amazing things. And like when these two are parting at the end and she's getting on the bus to go, you know, pursue her dream, it's like you as the other person, like you it's it's it's really I don't know. I just again the way that you flesh out friendship and that moment and just I'll never forget to Like that finale of Broad City, I could tell your emotions were so genuine, you know what I mean, Like the two of you filming that scene, like can I ask I've actually always wanted to ask this, What was the experience of shooting that scene where you know you're telling each other what you mean to each other and that like things are going to change, but not really as I my eyes well up with tears. The last thing we shot with like the Boulder stuff, like went actually went to Boulder, Colorado. But other than that that was like weeks you know, that was like maybe like a week later or something. So we made which we didn't usually get the luxury of doing of like shooting everything in order or like the last scene has to be the last scene. And it was like in a storia overnight into like morning, and we never would do anything like this where we were like, we need that. We're going to pause because like time money, you know, we're gonna pause. We're going into a van for a little while now, and you're gonna everyone has to wait, which like we would know we would never do that, And we just like went into this little minivan and like talked and basically said all those things and then like came out and a lot of that was scripted, and then a lot of that wasn't, and it was like, let's just let this be all of it, you know, like on and it's like it's so on and off screen, like it's so both of it. Because also like if you watch broad City, like at least for me, like Alanna was this person more like would I be queer if I had not metal? Like I would I would be queer, but like would I know I was clear if I had not met Allanna? Like that was so like she was that person that was like you're hot, Like how do you not know you're hot? That stuff? I mean that thread throughout the whole series, I love, Like I would not have been like my ass is great, Like so it's so dumb and also not at all. It's so important where you need Like I did not have someone that like was more confident than in me than me and I think when you find that person in and like she hopefully I gave that to her, you know, the things to her too. But it was like such a meta experience and the ending was like we were just saying what we felt because it was true for both, you know, to both for both Abbeys and Alana's Yeah, I'm like literally crying. People feel very seen by that. And so just like I don't know. I guess I didn't even realize how much that meant to me watching that until, you know, just talking about it just now. But it was truly every moment the band was worth it. Yeah, not me sobbing noting the third time today. I really was overserved. Bro, you were over sir. I'm we're we're overserving the audience with with incredible content on this episode. We must absolutely sail on to our final segment, which is I don't think so, honey. Yes, if you don't know, now you know, it's a one minute segment that is world famous. It is the trades Um and we take one minute to ranting at something in culture that is grinding our years. Yeah, and I have, and it's it's actually it's sports related. Okay, this is this is huge, This is Mount Rogers. I don't think so, honey, sports related. His time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Second basement erasier. I feel like people think that shortstop is the cool position and the harder position, and yes it is more of the glue of the infield, but second baseman get erased. Second base has a lot to do. They actually have to cover several bags as they call it. Okay, and also not for nothing, but second base sometimes has to play a little bit of outfield to okay, depending on what the outfield is doing. Second base is difficult, and if you have a shitty second baseman, your team is sinking to the bottom. Okay. His name was Chuck Knoblock. He was a Yankees or second baseman, I believe. And this was back in the late nineties or like maybe two thousand when I was really in the ship, and I remember it was a flop second basement for the Yankees and was the bane of the state's existence. Okay, I'm telling you. Second base is hard. It's a hard one. Third base a lot of drama goes on there because it's right by home, so it's sort of a hot spot, you know, shortstop, that's where the hot guys play, your dark pet rods and stuff like that. And then first base, I think, because it's sort of initially what's going on, it gets a lot of attention. Second base gets raised. And don't forget about second basements. This is coming from a center fielder. Okay. The glue of the outfield, I'm saying that. Remember your girl. One minute and eleven seconds. Wow's important, that's important. You didn't think she could ball? Who played a second base on the fictional Rockford Peaches. First of all, so gorgeous. Yes, truly really love her her Her scenes with Roberta were always I was just like, oh, I love that we're seeing it, like like the white pass is amazing. You're like, that's another element that you were like, oh, that must have figured into like this story, like in that time. Loved it, you know what I love to like at the end, um, when Darcy is speaking to the woman who's like the like the beauty woman, like the beauty consultant, and she's like, you know, baseball is like it's too slow for me, And then Greta says, well, there's always something going on. It's happening all the time. You just have to look. And that is so true about baseball, Like, um, it really is such a fun sport to watch when you know what's happening and allow yourself to be invested. There's actually nothing like it. It's it's it's I think probably my favorite sport to watch because there is so much drama in it, you know what I mean, Like it's a very dramatic game. Yes, because it's not fast paced. Yes, it is a really I mean, I'm now like, I'm want to go to a game game in a while. The Dodgers are away right now. Actually look because my parents are in town and my dad would have loved to have gone. But then I realized, like, oh, it's fully like the end of the year. Like it's not just the thing. I mean, my gay dumb mass is like, oh well, I'll just get online and buy a ticket. It's like, no, there's a season and then they're doing their thing. It's not like when your dad's here, you can just go. I wish I would have thought that you could. Yeah, okay, bow and yang. Okay that yours isn't going to be about baseball. It's not, but it kind it might have to do with baseball. Okay, here we go. Okay, well this is bowen Yang. I don't think so many of times stars now, I don't think so many hobbies. It's called get a job, make it your career. Okay, it's there are no boundaries anymore between work and and leisure. Make them one worse sick where six society, and there's no other choice but to have zero boundaries in your life and to have your work be your life. And I know that sounds bad, that sounds rough and undesirable, but there's no way around it. You like to draw, honey, sell the drawings on Etsy. You like to you like to garden, honey, take pictures, sell the picture online. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm just I'm just stating facts. I wish you weren't like this. But hobbies are over. No one who among you has had a hobby. There's no such thing as hobbies. There are distractions from the thing that you should be making a career from your hobby. It's all side hustle. Now, there is no way around this. I'm so sorry to inform art generation that you can't have a hobby anymore. Who take those photos of your gardens? Them say you want to you want to peek into my life. It's gonna cost you open up the tour to your garden and price. God, that was a capitalist nightmare. Yeah, um, mine is not that mine. So we'll see even what I say. Okay, okayk her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Latest iPad tipping protocols Okay, okay, I'm all for tipping all right, I love tipping. I love tipping my borisa, I love tipping my servers. I love tipping, tipping, tipping. But later, lately there's an iPad, and lately coffee shops have become markets. Okay, so I'm going food shopping and then maybe I'll get a coffee, and then automatically it's been tallied to tip on my full market order, So like what what? Okay? And also if tipping is supposed to be now for your full market order, I need to know then it But I am it feels like I'm being sort of like tricked into tipping for my full like I bought, like I bought a toe bag, I bought coffee, a bag of coffee, I bought all this stuff. Am I supposed to be tipping on my full market order or just a coffee? And then it's in my I fully am a jew and I realized this is very chewy. But what are they? I'm like, I'm like no or no to the protocols or yes, like I we need to know that's right now, that's one minute. Let's talk about this. Okay. In COVID, it became a market. It because coffee shops became marketplaces, so so I don't like that we are all and then I'm guilty. I feel guilty every time typing in a like a three dollars Now, I'm like, I'll give you three dollars on a coffee because I feel like I'm not giving you twenty five or like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, because and I'm also the person that on on like like on principle because I was a server for so long, I will make a whole thing of like topping like watch me go and then like so that they know that I'm one of the best tippers in America. And then I walk away and I'm like, well, I'm gonna be thousands in debt one day because coffee shops are a marketplace and I'm tipping on topags and many topags. But I'm like, you know, you're gathering like there's like it's a market now you get you get a candle in the mix, you get a fucking like beanie or some such or even like they're they're selling, like um, like what am I talking about? You guys know what I'm talking Like, I wish we all had a commonplace, but there's a lot of these places that are both, but there's a when you buy it, it comes up the tips and you are like expect, like I don't know, yeah, because in big block letters it says sometimes it's yes, and so I will always slam that and it's it's true, like it's it's on the totality of an order. And sometimes I lived I lived in green Point? Did you live in green Point? I remembering this up. I didn't live in green Point. I live okay, well Suggestion, Brooklyn, okay, and meats and spices, and you buy like I'm gonna buy, like there's some apples and there's some like you know, you buy like you're you're kind of like getting some groceries. And I'm like, if this is the new norm, okay, But I'm like, I'm confused every time I go yeah, do you carry cash? No? Neither, That's fine, That's fine. Here's the thing. Any time I tip, not any time coffee shop I go to here in Williamsburg, I tipped. They see me, press the button, press the screen, they feel nothing, and I go, is this registering? Is this landing? Are you I don't need the credit? But this is I bring this up? You no let me let me finish the point. Let me finish the point. I say this to illustrates or to bring up something and go. Do you think they care? I I think doesn't make a difference to them if you just tip on the coffee. If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does Bow and Yang get credit as a celebrity tipper? Well, I mean, listen, it is also like I do like I also same was a server was a recently like those that matters, like I totally like if I go to a coffee shop and just I get a coffee, I'm always be like, this is an important I need this. You like you're doing a great job. But there's a one you're made that's also a wine shop. So I'm going to a wine and I'm going to get like a coffee and then I'm like, all of a sudden tipping like it's and I've done it. I've done it, like you're watching me do it? Yeah, do it. Here's what needs to happen. It's not up to us to solve because here's what every coffee shop in the world, in the country, I'm sorry, listening, listening, Every coffee shop worker needs to unionize and then we just tip him as just tip him at, like you know, in a very casual way, the way that it was meant to be done, and there can't be this much stick. Of course, tipping matters. It's important. It affects the reality of things. But it is not up to us to to to do that. Do you do do you understand? Yes? You mean you're saying like it shouldn't be like listen, it matters so much right now to how much they make where it should actually be like an extra even though we want, like I will never stop tipping, but never, never, never. We're not anti tipping, We're just I just it's all getting so it's all getting very occluded. Okay, Oh my god, I love that word occluded. Yeah, I'm never amazing. When I think she's running, I think you're running. You're running, You're gonna and even if you don't run, you're gonna get treasury, you know what I mean? Because I have to be honest with you. I don't think you'd win president, I really but I think that you wouldn't win, but I think that you get far enough, like you'd make a Buddha judge. Impact to the point where you get like a good job in the treasury, because that's what you really want and you can really change things. As are you excited about changing things? When you look at the mirror and stroke your face and think of a legacy you're a part of it. What you'll do in the world. Are you excited about breaking boundaries? I'm excited about. Here's what here's here's my first item on the agenda, speaking of iPad tipping protocol. Okay, whenever I get rung up for three dollar coffee and the tipping options are one, two, and three dollars, I'm bringing that back down because this is what I because this is what I'm a rich woman. No, no, no, well, this is what I do. Three dollar coffee almost always can't help it. I always do a two dollar tip. I take them sixty six percent, and that's fine. I don't mind doing it. But I go, something's going on here. The iPad is really affecting things. And that's what I'm saying, Yeah, it is. It is where you're like, it is this thing also COVID because like tipping felt so essentially like it was like you're you're really really acknowledging essential workers and stuff like. It's maybe then we get rid of the iPads. And you know what I really don't like for the servers is when they have to ringing orders on those like essentially with those game boys that they carry around. You know what I'm saying, Like when they have to plug in the order in front of you. And I literally stop my waitress the other day and I was like, I'm so sorry, Like does this stress you out? Have to put this order in at the table with us looking at you, And she actually turned to me, she locked eyes with me. Know I love it. I was like, you love it? She was like, I love it. I love being able to stand here because I helped me connect with the table. And then I was like, oh, I'm talking to a crazy person. That's like, we're going to have amazing tonight. Around there are some careers ground Round that you know, girl, That's that's how you know it's giving. It's giving. They would play like old like move black and white movies and you'd get like a bowl of popcorn. Yeah, ground Round, Oh you're really bringing me back, miss Lee and I would often have a jukebox class the ground Round. I think they also would way you I don't like that, like and you would get like some sort of thing to me neither some sort of thing as a kid, like like, yeah, that's a funked up act. I think that I was. Yeah, well I think they went down. I think they went down. I think as like as like a contest or something. I don't know, Oh my god, what kind we're at at? Like no, no, some parts it's like guess like that is my fucking nightmare, Like does your weight like the funk out of here in the nineties to be like a stand it's like, yeah, you know, entertainment was just guessing weight, Come on, bring us back that. But and and lo and behold that is a reality show that would be Greenland like now, yeah, yes, there way, But then you feel like keep of her hosts it. Yeah that's good. Yeah, I love she does. I wanted to her weight. Yes, why not? Wow, Honestly, that is terrible and hilarious. It's like a dirty rock joke come to hellish life. Yeah, well that's where we are. That's where we are. Well, where I am right now is drenched in tears profuse like thick, joyful energy because the show is so good. You did such an incredible job, and I just can't say enough, like I feel like, you know, obviously it's out there to watch now you can fucking stream your ass off eight episodes of this incredible series, Like you nailed it, and we're so excited that you came to be on the show. Oh my goodness, thank you so much. This is such an honor to finally be on the show. I'm like, oh, I guess I'm never going to be on. Know, it felt like so stupid. It's now at the point where it's like people that haven't been on like you, It's like, what are we doing? Like this is so crazy but so fun. I'm such a fan you guys know that. And Matt, I can't believe we've never met. I know, And can I say when you've watched Fire Island and you you posted about story, I was that was so nice that you tagged me too, because we had never met, and I was like, oh, that's so sweet. It was like we have though, right, I know, Ery, you feel like we know each other. But it's we're going everyone's going to do any park and we'll get a Lana in there too. She can get the babies. Yeah, yeah, that's easy, Easy, easy day. Well, we end every episode with the song Oh my god, What's I guess it? What is the song? We're all for? What We're All. It's one of those songs where you're like, oh my god, this song, and then you go to sing it and you're like, yeah, this bye.