Look man, oh I see you? Why would look over there? How is that cher? Yes? Goodness, let's last culture racist. You had another episode for us. I gotta say, I'm all out of sorts and I'm gonna blame it on Don't say me. When have I ever blamed you for something bad? Blame it on the alcohol, Blame it on the boogie. Oh so what is the third? Blame it? Blame it on Blame it on your love. Oh my god, there you go, iconic. Okay, three, we got Charlie Michael Jackson, and who who does blame it on? Like alcohol? It's um, that's um. Blame it on the alcohol. I want to say is Jamie Foxx. I was gonna guess Jamie Foxx, but I was like, I think it's a movie actor and and wouldn't you know it? Well, actually, this is this is huge. Jamie fox is one of the most famous movie actors that there is. He's someone who's who's really achieved it all. When you say he's kind of like I'm a stone, he's like a male I'm a stone. I would say that Jamie fox is the male im a stone? And what film were they in together? Culturally? Stuff as an animated film. No, I don't know very much live action. I don't remember was the amazing Spider Man. Oh my god, you're right sequel where she spoiler alert fucking dies. Sorry, Gwen, I blame it on the eclipse. I guess we're in an eclipse and scorpio. You're kidding. I only care now because Channy Nicholas is really connecting with me. You need to You need to listen to Channing. Everybody, everybody in this zoom should listen to Channy Nicholas. The app is wonderful. There's a free thirty day trial when mercuries and retrograde. What we're in retrograde? I see what a crazy journey we've been on a lost culture. Remember when I was like vehemently anti astrology on this podcast, I really do. And also I've been on my own journey with it. I was not always, you know, one with the stars, mystic girl. I was not always a mystic girl Crystal one. And now I think mystic girl would be my aim screen name. What would you okay, so your yours mystic Girl? Yeah, mine would be I love this already summer hibernating would you do suber hibernating with an I, N G or hibernating s U, M, M three are iconic. H one, B, three, R and four. Oh my god, the four is an A is such a power. I and Q fuck in, Sleigh, go off, proceed to heaven. God, you want to know what I did today? This is how fucked up things. I always want to know what you did every day. I was supposed to like not eat too much today because I because I really went for it. Over the weekend. I made a baked ZD out of nowhere. Two o'clock rolls around. I go, I'm gonna make a baked ZD for eight. You can do that. I have the ingredients. I guess that's all you really need. That's all you really need if you want to make a baked ZD in the middle of the fucking day. And now I'm like weighed down by dairy and pomidoro. I mean, but but what a beautiful experience it is. During the eating, it's always worth it. I would say, it's actually real a culture. During the eating, it's always if that's what the culture number one never was that again? Seven correct that? But during the eating it's always worth it. And I have to tell you, I felt like Erica Jayne herself when I woke up this morning and had McDonald's rappers all rappers and you go hersro Taco Bell rappers. Though. Yeah, and I thought she really personally dragged me once. She said, when you wake up in the morning and you see that a lot of apps and you don't remember why they got there, it's a problem. I was just like, Okay, dragged me, an absolute me. I guess I'm an alcoholic hashtag in my life, my career, my career. We we can't get into housewives right now. It's it's it's a lot, it's really a lot, and we might need to and well, let's just say this, we have someone returning to the podcast very soon in the coming weeks who will have a lot to say. And also we can't we can't yet reveal exactly a platform that will be on together to discuss housewives, but I think you can use context clues. Go little hint drop, a little hint drop A Matt, I am really really excited for this week's guest. I'm so platonically rock hard for our guest. It's like out of control. There was a moment when we were in Mexico City over New Year's where there was a potential for this person to meet up with us when we were on a night out, and I can I tell you, I felt a little flutter in my stomach. I was fluttering in my heart. I'm sorry that stomach sounds digestive in my heart and hard even sounds like a rhythmic, and so I'm sorry. We get want to say. I was like, I get to meet I get to meet her. Yeah, so basically the person, it did not happen because well, there's only one word to say, COVID. There's really only one word to say. That's actually a real culture number. There's cod so applicable to life how much nowadays, especially now that it's she back to quote Joanna Gold from I Love That for You, And it's interesting I bring that up because Our Guests is an iconic role in the show I Love That for You, on which I also they throw this word around a lot, but it's really applies here quote unquote star Um, I absolutely stand Our Guests and her role as Bena on I Love That for You, a character that, let's just say, my character sort of gets into it with you two really have this perfect TV you that makes you good, that makes the viewer, I'm good. They must love each other. I r l you know, bo. It's that classic thing what they always say about, like Rachel mcadow's playing Regina George. You need someone kind to play someone so evil. You need people that truly love each other to hate each other. So vice really and I remember when I read some things in the script, and I'm actually thrilled to say that later in the season it does get physical between us toil. But when I read in the script that we would get to scream at each other in the hallway in front of our colleagues, I really my heart was a fluttering stomach, car all of it. Screaming in a comedy is all you need. I love it so much. And my character is sort of dry and like speaks in like a sort of voice like this, so I never really get to scream. And when I got to scream the following two words at our guests, fuck you, I really, really, really I was happy about that. Me too. I think your home was very happy too, I laughed. I had to laugh. Go back rewind fifteen seconds on the Apple TV remote, Honey hit the fifteen seconds. Why don't you I want to see that again. I want to see that one again. I am watching that. Get the fact back on the screen. I'm watching shout out to our iconic guest stars. Thanks. Oh my god, that was so fun. She improvised most of what she did. That's so fun. I was like, if who wrote this? This is so funny talking about going to space, like she she knew what general world to play in. By the way, speaking of Improriser, this is a true legend in the threat and there's an interesting connection between her and one of our favorite people in the world. Oh, we gotta talk and get this. I'm in this zoom right now with two Emmy nominated actors. We have an Emmy nominee in the chat in the guest chat to I'm not I'm not counting myself, but you have but you factually were nominated. Okay, yes, but I'm putting the focus on our guests and her nomination for playing him in Special. Yes, and Special is of course iconic work. And listen, we could continue to dilly dally, but let's let's start the dance. I'd say, let's start the dance. Please welcome, Oh my god, but like it would be cool if you guys just kept talking about me and I never said anything. Yeah, past to sit here, listen to you give me approbation. If you didn't mind it, No, I would love it. We love it, especially actors. Like whenever someone's like, M like watching myself so humble, I'm like, you're like, literally, we got into this profession because we love attention. Stop acting like I can't want meself. Oh my god, I can't. I had to just thinking about this today, Like before this, I was like downstairs like getting water, and for some reason I thought about my mind, like we can't part time that we're in this for like noble reasons, you know, No, it's all the entity. Yeah, Like sometimes I come up with noble reasons to like justify because I was in journalism major, so for a long time I was like, I'm going to work for vice, be a foreign correspondent and make a difference. And then you know, I started acting and I was like, well, I yuckum, ups aren't helping the world. And then I like I was like, no, my presence on TV is normalization and that's important and diversity and dada da da da. But at the end of the day, it's like, we love attention. So when people are like, oh my gosh, I like I don't want my picture taking it feels so weird. I'm like, no, it doesn't. That's literally do because you love it exactly. This is the candor that we have you here for. Okay, this is sort of this is we wanted to give you this platform so you could tell all these other self serious motherfucker's to shut the funk up, like being I could, Yes, okay, what's the story on Mexico City. So you got COVID while you were No, I didn't get COVID while I was there. You had to scare you had a scar and so. And then I was like with a whole group of people and they had plans, and then you guys had plans and they just weren't matching up. But I wish I would have just common met up with you guys at night because it was so fun. It was so fun what you guys were doing at that club. I like looked it up and everything, and I was like looking at the yelped pictures and I was sitting outside of a bar. We're the most exciting thing that happened. Was they handed us a bag of grapes. Yeah, okay, grapes, the grapes. I didn't know about this grape culture. Oh my god, grape culture title that. I didn't know that grape culture until Mexico City and they can somebody what is it exactly? It's you get twelve grapes and you're supposed to eat them, and they're supposed to They're supposed to represent the you know, the last four months of the year Spanish tradition, and so in Spanish speaking countries, okay, reading this, it consists of eating a grape with each of the oh I'm starry, with each of the twelve clock bell stripes at midnight welco the new year. Each grape and clock bell stripe represents the coming twelve months. So I got that mixed up. So it's the had Yeah, yeah, I mean I love the tradition, love it, and it was fun and the grapes were very delicious, like hard, firm, juicy and weird skin green. My preferred grape is green personally. Yeah, yeah, it's not a grape if it's not green, because the purple ones leave like a weird film in your mouth. But some of the people I was with had more grapes than alcohol that night. And I'm not shaming people that don't drink. I am an ally to all. But I know you wanted to turn up. I know you you wanted to turn up, turn up. And it was New Year's Eat. And then once the grape arrived, everyone was like stopping their faces with grapes, and I was like, should we take a shot? And they're like, I'm good with my grapes, and I was like, I'm good with my grapes. I'm good with my grapes, and but I'm you kind of what we're around, what it seemed to be, and I don't want to make any sort of like you were around a lot of straight It was all couples, and they were very nice and two and two of them I really really love the other one. I just didn't know them. So sometimes this thing happens when you don't know people and you're in a foreign country on a vacation, on like one of the most fun nights of the year, and they can kind of come off as like energy vampire, yeah, And I'm like, I don't know what the opposite of a vampire is. Like, I'm like energy, energy, NonStop vomit. Yeah yeah, I think. Yeah, Well, the opposite of a vampire is six Flags guy. I'm the six Flags guy energy. Yeah yeah, party motivator. I think if you're in a couple, I think a lot of couples when they come together, they become energy vampire. That's what That's what happened my couple. Yeah, but my couple is like literally two versions of me, just in two different genders. So it's like double six twelve flags yeah yeah. And then it was two energy vampires. And I was like, what was the name of the bar we were at Bow for New Year's it was? It was not It was not a great bar. I will say I think it was great, But I will say this, the the like dancers they had at that bar that night on New Year's Eve were the most beautiful men I had ever seen. Yes, they were shocking. Blowbar That's what it was, Bob. Yes, I looked up a blowbar you to bear that night at three point three on on Google Maps, and not the pictures. Like one of the first pictures I think was like two people with like devil masks on, and I was like, I want to be there. Yeah, that was really the vibe. To be honest with you, it was devilish. Yeah, but it was not good. I just I want I want you to know that you were not missing anything. And I want to say the people I were all very nice and we still had fun. It was just a different type of grape based fun. Yes, that I wasn't expecting. Well, we're at this, We're about to hit the you know, the five month mark. Ye, we're four and a half months into this year. How do we do? We want to reflect already on what the year is. I feel like starting the year in Mexico, I was hoping that it would be like a new a new frontier, and it hasn't been. It's all it's all been the same. Oh do you feel like it's not been the same because it's been bad or it's just been like monotonous monotonous. It's been very monotonous. It's been like not much has changed since January. I have to say, I think for us it's been different, different because we got Q one was pretty packed, you know. You know, I actually famously got COVID in Mexico City, which maybe you didn't hang out, and I was very concerned because we were going to start shooting like kind of right away, and they end up pushing because of the only really one word to say, COVID. So then we shot. We shot for eight weeks, and you know, I genuinely felt there were times when I would see put Um Patel and I was sort of my heart relieve out of my chest. And I knew I loved you from the pilot, but then I felt like every single time you had any like interaction with when, I'm like, it was like always a better, brighter day. And I also have to say, you're so fucking funny in the show. So funny. I mean not to boomerang it back, but I don't do it. I got a boomerang, and I know it's annoying, but I have to. Also when I'm showed up for the press the virtual press day looking supermodel, of course, well because my character is so frumpy, so I was like, I have to fucking step it up. And then for premiere, I was like I have to go full because I mean like a break eat and like a flannel and I was like, I have to commemorate this body because it's not gonna look like this forever and I like working hard on it, so I'm like, we gotta show it off. Yeah, you were giving legs. We had to, we had no choice. And now now I don't ever want to say you're not showing them wish. Granted, we live in California, so I can always be like kind of naked. That's true. So in this news in this news project you're doing, where you play, we were speaking with you. You're in Toronto right now and you're filming. Are we allowed to say or we can't say what it is, but we can we stay with what you're who you're playing. I think so, So you're going to sue us actually do that. Maybe I don't know. It's it's a major company, but you're playing a mom for the very first time ever. Is it a mom's legs? Is it like a hot home mom um? There is one portion where yes, okay, and I just had a wardrobe fitting for that portion and I was like, let's go for it. Yeah, there is one portion and I was like, let's go for the extreme because the rest I am. But here's the thing. The nice thing I like about the wardrobe department was like, just because she's a mom, doesn't mean she has to be frumpy, you know what I mean. So it's still like like very flattering clothes and things like that. But it's just funny because you know, I'm thirty seven, and when I got this part, I was like, Wow, what a stretch. How is anyone going to believe that I'm a mom? And I had to be like, bitch, it is very like reasonable that I would have a ten year old son, right, but in my mind, it's like unfathomable that anyone would ever believe that I have a kid, because I don't. But it's not. It's normal for a lot of people my age to have children. I guess it happens every day. It happens all the time. And isn't it weird that we think it doesn't just because we're around that many people who have them. Yeah, it's like we live in this different world, which is a good thing, but I have like it's when you like talk to your high school or college friends, but you're like, oh, right, yeah, where did you grow up? Florida? Florida, and so that's but that but then that's its own thing, that's its own environment where people are like on different timelines. Oh, yeah, and then also like being Indian. You know, it's like, honestly, how am I even alive that I'm not married and have children right now? Like? Am I even Indian? You know? Yeah, I'm starting to feel I'm starting to feel that now all of a sudden, I feel like my parents are telling me about these kids I grew up with who are like starting families now, And I'm like, are you disappointed that I'm not doing that? Yeah? I'm about lucky. I have an older sister that married another Patel and had to like purebred Indian children, So I'm like, so much feel sacrificed. So they about that, So I'm like, you're good looking the other way at the moment, yes, they're distracted. You know what, I've realized, Bowen, I have never asked you do you want children? I think, um at this time now same at this time, it feels like, especially after we talked to Jesse on the Spodrom and like reading her book, I was like, parenting sounds like the hardest thing you could possibly do. I don't think I could. I don't think I have it the gumption or whatever, not that it takes gumption to be a good parent. Or whatever. I just don't have like that capacity, do you. You know, For a long long time, especially in my twenties, I was like, hell, no, I am not having kids. I'm going to travel for the rest of my life and eat good food and this and that. And I think something happens, especially for women as we're getting older and we're constantly reminded that our bodies are withering away and our eggs are like running out of our body every day, that I'm like, oh, I kind of have to decide. But I feel like really really open. I think also because I'm with someone for the first time that I could imagine that kind of life with and a family with. I just think I hadn't really dated anyone that I could imagine having a family with, let alone like even being with the next week. But like I think now that I have to like kind of know a little bit, um, I feel really open to it. But with the big caveat that I've realized, is it caveat or caveat, I think it's I think it's sort of tomato tomato. I think it really is yourself. But I realized I'm not going to do it unless I'm really rich to enough to afford every single type of help available. Yes, yes, yes, I'm talking night nurse, nanny, babysitter, home with separate wing. I honestly think working in childcare you should, you should, you should be paid at least seven figures. Oh. It's such a grueling job, and I think there's like shame, especially towards women, where it's like, well, you don't even work, you just stay home and you still have help to raise your kids. And I'm like, yeah, it's like the hardest thing in the world. It's like a little gremlin, fucking little you push out a little goober and then it's like latching onto you, sucking with life out of you, ruining your body, ruining your mood. You go into depression. Yeah, I'm gonna need some hols. I also think there is a time in a young, young child's life where it's like there's like a period of time where they are dead set on trying to accidentally kill themselves, like they're trying to They're absolutely trying to run into a sharp corner. They're really they're they're dead set on falling off a ledge, like they will. They'll sort of like crawl towards death. And it's your job to keep the kid alive and wants to do. That's something I don't think I could personally deal with. I was talking about this today, um I was co hosting the podcast Attitudes, and Aaron Gibson asked if I would ever want a child, and I was like, of me, says no, But I think there's five percent possibility that I could meet someone fall absolutely head over heels in love with them in their my entire world, and if they were like, I must have children, then I could see myself doing it and it wouldn't be, you know, the craziest worst thing in the world, because I do think I would be a good parent if I ever got over myself. Um. But but that's like a really really narrow margin. Really, is it weird to act as a parent, Like what is? What is? Is there a different philosophy to acting? They're not philosophy, like a thing about acting that you're learning as like where you have to like pretend that you are this person's caretaker, especially because I've met his mom and like she's just really sweet, tiny Indian woman who like wears Indian clothes and she's like so sweet and like quiet and I'm like, so, I'm just like she must be looking at me being like this bit is gonna mother my son. But you know, the thing with like acting is I feel like I'm like scam the system just like well, because I feel like I started in comedy and I know we like act, but I haven't. We were said we we scammed. We scammed our way in a little bit. It's a little bit. And so now I feel like people are like, oh, you can act, but I'm like, no, I'm just really sensitive and so I feel all my emotions like really deeply all the time. And then I'm just really good at triggering myself. So do you do that? Do you do you trigger yourself with with with your own pain in order to go there? Yes, and that's probably not how you act like you're supposed to act. But I'm just like, oh, I'm supposed to feel this. Let me think of something really sad that happened to me and put myself back in that place. And then I'm just like, it's just like fe therapy, but you probably learned like actual acting technique. But then also I'm like, well, funk it, Let's just see how long we could do us until someone's like, bitch, take a class, right, And like most I don't know. I was like on like a like an actor interview kick of like watching people talk about their process, and most of these like these actors who we love are like I don't really have one, right, that's a process, you know, Like they're like I kind of just like it depends project to project. And if you're triggering yourself to elicit the appropriate emotion, like that's that's that's your that's technique, Like I think you're good. It's also the interest sometimes sometimes when I'm playing a character and I can understand the emotional situation, and it's like, for example, and Fire Island, I have like end bone can absolutely wait to watch that, by the way, but there's there's emotional scenes for all the characters. But and I think that because that was such a meta experience of doing that movie, it was not difficult to put ourselves in those characters shoes and therefore get to that emotional place. So that's one thing. But like Darcy has some emotional stuff later in the season and the ship he gets upset about. I could never get upset about, so trying to conjure up like really really real seeming emotion over something that you have no connection to is really hard. And so like on days when I had to be crying, like I would just be trying to maintain that all day and the crew was like tiptoeing around me, and I was like, guys, I'm not actually upset. This is not real emotion. That's what that's That's what's so like annoying about it is like trying and like like really trying to get yourself there. And I was trying to trigger myself and I couldn't do it. And then I ended up crying because I was so frustrated that I couldn't do it. I was like, well, I guess I got there, like you got there? Who cares? How? Yeah? I was just just so disappointed that I cried, and I was like, oh, well, I guess this is what doesn't work too roll the tape. That's meta, that's meta. Wait, was there stuff with beinga this season that you felt similiarly about Beina doesn't do you do? You don't really say, I'm not not in terms of being emotional, but in terms of like she's caring about something that I have no I don't care about whatsoever or the other way around. Um No, she's like very different from me. But that's why it's fun, because it's like it's a kind of character where it's like those like deep inappropriate thoughts that we all have, but like, you know, we're adults and we're good people, say she says, um, so in the way, it's kind of like scratching and it because we all, like I think secretly, we all want to be awful sometimes. Yeah, Like you know, like when I first got to college and I was like in a lecture hall for the first time, like in a history class or something like, do you don't have those urges where you just want to stand up and yell something like really bad, like really bad. Yeah, we canceled bad And then I would I would be like scared that I was going to do it, and then I'd be like, don't don't say that, and then I'd be like I'm not gonna say that. Oh my god, I'm to say it. I'm gonna do it. It's like I think we have is it just me? Like I think we have those urges, but we're like good people, so we don't do it. Yeah, instinct. Yes, it's a violent urge, Yeah, we do have it. And like so I think, like when you get to play like someone like bea who's just fully unhinged, I get to just do it and I have an excuse to do it, and hello, I get paid and rewarded to dream. Dream what's the connection? A Bryant so eighty, as you know, is a second city. So I like, I was, you know, taking costs that second city and always watched her and like admired her. And then I got to audition when she got hired for SNL. I got to audition to be her understudy. Cool. And when even when I was auditioning, um, it was either when I was auditioning or then when I eventually got it, she sent me like the nicest email. It was when I was auditioning, because she was like, if you have any questions, and I was like, well, you just got hired to us, and I don't really want to bother you, and she's like no, seriously, like you know, I want you to feel comfortable because it's like all the parts that she wrote for herself and I have to do it and I can't, like no one can be her, So you have to find a way to like make it your own while still honoring the work, and she like, I had a couple of questions and she sent me back like the nicest, most thorough email walking me through every scene was like so sweet. And I was like, this woman, I don't know, just got hired to this iconic show, dream job, and she's sitting here writing me an email so like an audition to be her understudy. She's she's so sweet and her parts were like so fun to do because she's like brilliant and study. And I replaced her and then I got to do the like the next two shows where I got to like write my own stuff. Then yeah, amazing, No, but it was like awesome because that was the first job. Also that like took me away from a nine to five because up until then I was like working as an editor. So I was like, Okay, I'll just like do comedy for fun, but I have to make money. And the second city offered me a full time job, and my dad was like, you're living the life of a gypsy. You can't do this was like I gotta go. I forget that. It's like that like it's that's so different than U. C. B. Which is well there was an absolutely no money. There was only paying them. But it's it's sort of like more of reviews, though, what's the experience of being in the company. They're like, you know, Second City is an interesting place for me. I can only speak to me personally because yeah, because it's like obviously as everyone's heard of, like a lot of comedy institutions, extremely problematic. But I still really value my time there because it actually gave me the confidence and affirmation that I could like perform for a living, whereas I didn't know I could before that. But like being pardon of ensemble there there's only six of you and then you're like writing your show together, and I think the best thing that came out of it was like made me not precious with any of my work because it's like I would write a sketch and sometimes you just write an idea and you improvise it, and I was like, this is brilliant. It was really funny. Thing. We're gonna have to replace the chairs, Everyone's going to pee their pants. This is still good. It's gonna give me the hall of fame a Second City that doesn't exist. And then I would go on to like on stage and it would be fucking crickets groans, and then that sketch would never see the light of day, so you had to just like move on really quickly. So like I feel like it makes me now when I like write or like improvise something and so doesn't like it or I auditioned, I don't get it. I'm like, yeah, but I was thinking about you talking about working the stage job, like being an editor, Like that's another part of the scam though for us, Like for I think for all three of us, I know, like everyone has to do it, like you have to eat somehow, but like I think for us to like do what we do now and like while like nurturing this like side hustle while also having to like balance like this thing that like paid your bills. Like I don't know, Like I feel like it's a scam, but it's also like it's it takes a lot of like mental work to do. I mean that in a long time, you know, because because you haven't had to. But that was that was that was where I think I can speak for myself, like of my energy went to trying to maintain like anything having to do on a day to day basis, with my my aspirations and my like dream career while also needing to work in a restaurant all the time. And I honestly think what keeps me going and what keeps me like honestly like really always wanting the next job is because I refuse to go back to working and a high volume see food restaurant, right, And I do, I do have fears that I will like I will, I will still have like stress dreams. Will call them nightmares. Actually I'm gonna call it a nightmare that like I forgot table twose diet coke, you know what I mean? Like it's really it's like and and the refusal to go back to that life is something that I don't know. I think when when you are a person that's like needs to work and doesn't have the privilege of having like the money that's always there so you can of the time be pursuing, you know, be pursuing your career and what you want, like that separates people and Suti is the same way, like and you actually put him like was part of sudis jfl new Faces. Oh my god, that's another connection years ago. Wow, she's she's the best. Yeah, And so basically like I think that's something we all share, is like the the need to hustle and also like have the survival job was yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know, like there's something it's it's it's it's weird. I don't know. I I promise this is not like a stoner thought. I'm not stone I'm totally sober, but I'm like, it is weird. How this is like a universal like journey into comedy acting, which is you like, go through this whole pipeline. I don't know, yeah, yeah, And it's kind of just like a it's a risk you take, like a huge risk to go act like a fucking idiot for free, like to go play pretend with other adults. And then like, yeah, I found a picture. So I moved to l A to do the the CBS Diversity Showcase. Yes, no big deal. Um were you're making a basement? Honey? Remember what year you did it? Okay, great? Was that the year we were supposed to do it? But you're supposed we were going to do it a couple of years later. Oh my gosh. Well I found a picture of me the other day and it was like a sketch someone had written about what we do, and I was dressed like Velma, but it was like makeshift costume, so it was like brown tablecloth tied around me as a skirt, an orange ill fitting sweater and like literally like like a like a wig that looks like a tupe and then flashes and I'm just standing there and I'm standing next to do you know Cola Scolay, brilliant, one of the greatest for meeting brilliant minds of our time. He's standing next to me dressed like Scooby And I was just like looking at that picture and I had made a gift at the time that said that moment where you ask yourself what the hell are you doing? It happened in that moment on stage, and I was like, I feel like, especially as comedians, we have that all the time because we're like when we're starting, we're like in a basement with filled with asbestos. They're serving blue pictures, a blue drink, there's a pizza on the stage, there's a dog roaming around. You're like you're doing a problematic accent, and you're just like, what are we doing? Yeah? And like also the funny thing is like speaking of the smells of those places. I will never forget. Bone, do you remember finding out remember that smell in the pit underground? That pit underground, by the way. One time, Bone and I did a show for one person. It was Matt and Bowen. We were doing Sluck Luck. We had a slutty lip sync dance duo named Sluck And one person came and I was my friend of me and I remember finding out that that smell was dead rat. What, Yes, that smell was dead decomposing rat. And I think it was a bartender at the time that was that. I was like sort of flirting with there that told me that, and he was like, you know what that smell is des And I always just thought it was like it must be like a cleaner they used or something. But do you remember that smell? I remember that smell. You'll never forget the smells of these places. Wait, but how did the rat pass? No? No, no, not rat rats? So what was there? Like rat poison? And they would eat in they were just the carcasses were just left there. They were like behind this they were like somewhere in the walls or something or like because you know, there's like thousands of rats everywhere you go in New York City, you just don't see them. There's like millions of rats everywhere. How do you get them out? You got to break into the wall. You have to break into the wall. Absolutely, But this is well anyway, this is all to say that, like, what a beautiful journey to have you all of us do this, but then for you guys specifically to end up on the show with Suity and then with Vanessa and Molly and Jeremy and like all the people who work on the show. I'm watching the show and I go, this is a perfect show. It feels like it's it's made for me in a way where I'm like, it's all these people who I love, all like working on the same project and oh, it's so it's just so good. I did get to watch the first episode with Bowen when they when they put it on Showtime, and Bowen said, this is exactly the kind of show I want to watch, and I was like, Oh, I hope, I hope more people that are like, you know, have great taste say that. I genuinely, I don't know I would imagine that you've well, I know you have like you've you've you've booked and been around like so you know it feels like a special show. No it is, there's not a done in the group. The writing is like insanely good. We were cackling out loud. I couldn't even memorize my lines because I was like saying them out lout to myself and I couldn't get through that. But it's so good. It's such an all like literally it's stars on stars. Yeah, and even my mom likes it and she doesn't like anything. It's literally the only criticism she had was like I didn't like that sweater you wore or whatever, has like opinions about the wardrobe, and like literally once she hated my wardrobe on a show so much. But she was like, so do they force you to wear those clothes? And I was like, like against my will? And she's like yeah, like in her mind, like there's no way I would have chosen to wear that outfit. It was still bad. It's one of those things where you can't really explain to a parent, like what goes into like this is not it's not up to you. So in a way she's right, like you are being forced, but also it's like day, yeah, it's funny yams are just critical. Yeah, you know it's it's there's Darcy wears a suit in the first episode, which is so tight that my I mean, we can just say my dick is out, thank you, sweetheart. But but like my penis was fully out and I could feel my mom like sort of floating around and she was like, yeah, that's suit. I thought you wore it. Well, um, it's like, what do you do when you're a mom and your son's penis is out? You know what I mean, that's a big question I have. What do you do when you're a mom? Like I we I did these photos for Gay Letter and Thongs that Cole and Joel also did, and it was like the one picture that my mom and dad did not like, and I know they saw. What do you do when your son's asses out and dick is on tv? You know you can't? And this is what we have to ask ourselves when we end up wanting kids. Yes, you you have to think ahead and think how am I going to be when I see their dick out? Because at a certain age it transitions from that's my child's dick to know that's there, that's there, that's not my butt I'm responsible for. That's their book. Now I can't. You can only touch there button dick for so long to tuck it back in, and then at a certain age, I can't touch them anyway. They have to deal with that on their own. I'll never forget that one time my dad came in. I was like fourteen or fifteen years old, and I was like, for some reason, I was taking a shower in his bathroom and I know for a fact he came in on purpose to see what if I had pubes. And I think that was the first time he ever saw me with pubes. And I saw him like smirk, like my kid has pubs, now, you know what I mean. Like, but of course, when I was a little kid, they saw me naked all the time, running around and then I guess around like five six, you know, that starts to be like, you know, I don't want my parents seeing me naked, but this was a thing all the time, and then I sort of went away to the wilderness to go, you know, the wilderness, like being my bedroom and shutting the door and like having a puberty moment. And then they see you and all of a sudden, your kids like a little man. Also, I like how your dad thought it would be less awkward to walk in on your naked and just like, hey, it's been a while since I seen yourn it. I'm wondering what the pube situation is now. I know you probably got it. Uh show me. He's like, nof, like, I wonder what that was. Yeah, you should have just asked you, But I guess it's also weird to ask you. Are you growing here down there yet? I think I think if they have any questions about my penis now, they can just watch episode one and I love that for you, and it's like pretty, It's like pretty, it's been pretty craftically out there speaking of penises, you know, beginning of life. Going back to the beginning and the drawing board, What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? I think it was, if I'm understanding the question correctly, you are you stirl? I think it was like the culture. It was like Indian haggling culture. Huh, we can talk about this. Yes, it is like haggling and deals and stuff like that. It's like a fare a big part of being Indian. And I think it used to kind of embarrass me, um because it's not just about being cheap. Because Indians are going to like Bindy Jeweler's jewelry store and buying like thousands of dollars of gold, and they have a little shitty calculator held together by tape, and they're like calculating the price, poking, And then my mom's grabbing the calculator, She's like, what about this per ounce of gold? So they're like buying expensive things, but they're still haggling. And then they're also haggling, you know, with the guys selling a cucumber at the market. Um. But I think it like really enforced this idea of like you're not going to get the best interesting. Yeah, and not in a paranoid way, but in a way that is empowering because even now, like especially as you know, like in this industry, like when we first start as any marginalized group, we're just like so fucking excited someone let us in, whether we have to crawl in through the window or up in the toilet, we got here and we're just like so happy we're here, and we're like kick us out if we say anything. And I feel like the Indian haggling culture that has been ingrained into my DNA didn't allow me though, even from beginning, to just accept everything and be in this place of like toxic gratitude, because I'm very grateful, but I feel like it's now allowed me to be like, no, I know we can do better. Yeah, you're right that it is when you struggle to get your foot in the door, because not only is it hard period, but also when you are the type of person that only gets offered a certain thing and you feel like you're in competition with people like you, um, it's it is like when when they decide to hand you an opportunity. I remember, like when they first told I got offered a job one time and the pay was insanely low, and I was so excited about it. I was like, they want to bring me five thousand dollars an episode. Oh my gosh, that's like that's like dollars for four episode. And then you hear like, no, that's a joke, Like you could you you can't say yes to that, but it was more money than I had ever thought. And and also you're just like, well, don't piss them off. Don't go back and say that's not acceptable, because then you know I don't want them to be mad at me. Yeah, well they'll take it away. They'll take it away and give it to someone else. So you feel like you bypassed that, like that moment of like, oh, I don't know, like this is I don't want to rock the boat too much, you think, like with haggling, like you got to skip that. Maybe yes, I mean I feel like I'll still if I care about something, I'll still do it even for free, because I want to do it and I feel privileged enough that I could be in that position. But yeah, and also it's like I'm ry aware that when you have an agent or a manager, you have to give them ten percent. So I'm like, if I don't need you, I'm not paying ten percent. It's like, and keep it too small until people like you have to have a lawyer. You have to do this. So I'm like, okay, fine. But also I'm like, well they canna ask what some har I'm been asking we're supposed to where someone says no, but like I always have to at least try. It's like this weird thing to me. Like today, so I'm in Toronto right now, and we're in this little corporate apartment but it has like a little bit of corporate apartment smell, and so I was like, you know what I need like a diffuser or something nice. So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna treat myself. And I went to like West Elm today, like a little rich white lady, and the diffusers were like seventy nine dollars for one diffuser, and I was like, like the immigrant in me and like the cheap Indian to me was like that's ridiculous, and me, I was like, I really like a smell, and I want to live in a place of smells good and I want to want and also I can afford it. I'm doing I'm feeling a movie like but like even when I was up there, I was like kind of part time, I'm a student, go online and sign up for an email, and then I bought it and it ended up being like eighty one dollar Canadian and I was like really, And then I came home and then I transferred it to like USD and it's like sixty three and I was like god him like translating the currency, but like that was like but I still got a deal because I bought a Canadian but it was only sixty three, and I thought it was one. Wow, that's the journey. I'm that's no. I honestly really admire that because I feel like I went the other way. Like, Okay, so like my parents growing up, like did that thing we're at Like let's say we were at Macy's or something, and like I wanted to buy like a pair of shoes, they would like borrower with the salesperson. Did they do that? Did your parents do this? Yes? And I've done it for friends. There's always't that has little coupons in it. I don't do it as much anymore because I'm trying to value my energy and and also I'm like it's a show of self worth if I can treat myself to nice things. Um so that's something I've learned, like by lest stuff but not nice stuff, but nice stuff. But no, growing up, we were always like, I think there's a little thread coming out here. Can we get ten percent? Yes? And guess what, Maze is going to be just fine. I'm not doing it when I traveled to Columbia with a street vendor who's like selling well wooden whistle or something. But Maze is gonna be just fine. West gonna be just fine, Okay, totally. I was still mortified. I was still like so like just so like not like there was some shame with that. I was like, well, I don't like like, I don't like this, and like when I grew up, I'm gonna make enough money to not have to do this. Ever, so I think I internalized that, and now I like, spend too much money on ship that I have no business mind. But one has always been like that. I've always been shocked by the amount of money he's willing to pay, Like I'll never forget I'll never forget the sweatshirt. And there was there was an iconic famous sweatshirt that I can't believe he didn't keep and put in a museum because we were, like when I tell you we were broke. We were truly broke after college, to the point where like like whenever we'd go like on the on trips together for for sketch comedy, like some of us wouldn't even go to lunch because we couldn't afford it because the trip had cost a couple hundred bucks or whatever. But I remember one time Bowen got a Mason Kitsune sweatshirt that was just a gray crew next sweatshirt and it said the reason it costs more than uh seventy truly, and I was at the point where I was like, well an expensive sweat sure it is, of course forty five bucks. I mean that was me at the time. And I was like how much was that? And he's like, I don't want to tell you. I was like, okay, thinking well, that must mean it must have been eighty dollars or something, and he goes, he goes, I'll let you guess, and I was like, was it eighty dollars? And he was like it's more and I was like, oh my god. And then I went up. I was like, was it two hundred fifty dollars? Like thinking that was the wildest drilling I should ever say, and he was like, it's worth than that, and it was three thirty dollars, three cotton, nothing special about it, and I it's very stupid, but that's like, no, I'm not really. At the time, we were not worth that. And then I couldn't wrap my head out it and I couldn't let it go. At the time, I was like, because we were making we were fully self producing sketch comedy videos for like three dollars. I was like, we could have done a popularlette video with that. You know, I really couldn't put that money towards the video. I like, I've never been a good spender of money. I really have it, and I still don't think I am um. I love it about you now because I love it. I love it. I feel like we both could like meet each other more towards each other, maybe because I'm trying to be more like you, and I feel like in this past year I've really been good about it, as you can tell by my diffuser, your American dollars diffuser. Yeah, but you know it's only with products. With food, it's like money doesn't exist. It doesn't matter. I'm paying for everyone bottle, for the table tasting menu. It was in experience, yeah, travel and food. I'm like, I will believe myself dry for it. But you know, now, I really wish you had joined us for that one. But in that one place we went, what was that was It was like the courses. It was called like ola or something, and it was yeah, ten course meal was loved. And that was the night we were supposed to meet up with you. I think it was we were like having the time of our life, like drinking miscal being like we're gonna meet up. Yeah, I'll tell you what. No, it's just I think it's because I had lost my voice at that point. So I was like, oh my gosh, I might have COVID, Like even more than getting it. I have a fear of like giving it to someone and ruining their life. And we were filming, and so I was like, and that's not to be quite honest, Matt, I was concerned about you, the Bowen. I was like, I can't have that be Bowen's first impression that I just I had just gotten it. So I was like, com I know, but you don't. We just have to go back now because I want to go to Pejole. Wait, what's Pejole. It's like the most famous restaurant in Mexico City. So I went to like the more casual place, which was amazing, but it's like the stunning it's um Olvera hol don't let me look it up. And this is so good place that like everybody goes to and it's so lovely. Yes, Enrique Olvera. Enrique Olvera, he's like an amazing chef and he owned, or maybe did you go to did you go to that like Somente slash Cave restaurant by This was my second time in Mexico City. The first time we did do the Pyramids as well, and I almost went to that place, but then it started breaking. The food was bad. Honestly so did our driver. He was like, you love the experience. But we went down there and going this this was have we done this on the pod? This guy literally this waiter walks over and he's like so confident. He was like, all right, it's so good that you guys are here. You have to get the drink and this is the finest drink on the menu. This will be the drink you remember from this trip. You're like, absolutely, let's get that. We're so excited. We're like whoa. And then he brings over what was essentially mud in a cup. It was like what was It was like a weird like not even her chod at trying to be no alcohol in it. And then I literally wanted to order like this is so funny, this is so good a chicken or something, and then this wayer goes this Wayer goes to me, No, no, you're not getting that, get get this instead. I was like, oh about telling me no, it was he was like I would like this, No that I respect that, especially when in another country and they kind of like put you in there in your place, or when I could tell being like hustled in another country, I'm like you, I'll let it pass because this is your place and I'm on your turf. Yes, I mean I think it was a little bit of that, because we fully laid down on the tracks and let them run over us bad and it was everything was so bad. But there the experience was cute. It was a gorgeous cave, beauty cave, beautiful cave, and the the food and drink was beautiful. Gowns, gorgeous gowns, gorgeous gowns. But like haggling, like what was like, is there like a moment besides the golden the calculator that you remember? There are moments where I remember my parents, like like with shoes being like no, we're gonna scream at this lady at Macy's too like to pay like lass and like this woman like we we can't, we can't do that. I'm so sorry, and me being so embarrassed, mortified, oh for sure. I mean it was always peak in India. But now when you go shop in India, they literally have signs in the clothing stores that are like set prices, fixed prices, and it's all bar code, but like back then they were writing it by paper and it's like full screaming matches a lot of the clothing stores. Also, you take your shoes off and you're like sitting on this big padded thing and they're like just throwing around sorrys and stuff, and it's like you make a big pile of off that you're gonna buy and then you're like the right numbers and we're like no this. And then literally I guess to the point where my mom will just like, for example, if they're like no pay us, and my mom, I'm only doing twelve for matter of three hundred groupies, which is like, you know, like dollars, that's not the right commotion, but you know what I mean, like at the end, that's like what am I arguing about? But like she'll just take out twelve hundred and then she'll just like put it out and start walking out and start gathering her stuff, and they'd be like no, no, no, I really can't, and she's like, they can put it in their hand. And I was like, I love it. It's a boss. That's so cool. It really is. And also it's it's about the principle it is, and it's also about yourself interactions. Yes, it's a yeah no, But now I feel like in her older age, she's very much about like living a more like stress free life. And so she's like doing that because she's put in the work. She's put in the hour, the work. There you go. Now she has to enjoy. Yeah, you gotta enjoy. It is interesting when you see your parents turn a corner on their personality, you know what I mean. It's like my dad was always very impatient and like he sort of I think he had a temper and now not in a bad way, but he was just very quick to be like, what are you talking about? Like like now I see him more chilled out. Um. But it was such a thing about his personality, his whole life. And it was so funny because his favorite singer is Jimmy Buffett, who's like, you can tell it's just my dad. I don't know if he's conscious of it, but like, of course his favorite singer would be like the personification of vacation. But you know what I mean, like literally because he needed that to like chill um. But nowadays it's it is funny because like so you're saying, your mom is now no longer like this. I think for them, it's not like they had some like spiritual awakening. I think they just got tired and they fired and they're like and they like starts and they're like they're just tired. I was gonna ask you where abouts in Florida? Are you from Vero Beach. It's like this little town about like two and a half three hours north of Miami on the East coast. It's like half trash whites, half rich trash whites and the like. Now there's more Indian families. When my parents moved there, there was like five Indian families. And then it's a large cittrus producing county suffers like a large migrant worker population as well. It's an interesting place. It's like kind of feels like one of those places that's been forgotten about when you go there, because it's like I think, like over pandemic. My mom's like big news was like the pizza hut close like they don't even have Pizza Hut anymore, so they have the word from Dominoes. Let's have that conversation. Dominos is better. Actually, I'm gonna say Pizza Hut is better? Are you kidding me? That feels like a betrayal you guys personal pan and also like growing up, did you did you? Did you not hit up the buffet at lunch time? The best ranch I've ever had in my life to this day, Pizza Hupafe, Pizzapa fe was like a savior, was a lifeline to immigrant diaspora populations. And the orange soda their best orange. I don't know what the extra fizz bring back orange soda, to be honest, yeah, I would love that. Why why did that? Why did that? Like, honestly go away? You are so right by the way Hansa saying, um can confirmed pizza. Okay, I really thought I was in a Domino's house. I'm not shipped tucking Pizza Hut, and I'm not gonna put Pizza Hut down because I'm a Domino's girl, you know what I mean? That that's not the type of person I am or whatever want to be, but I will that there are things about Dominoes that people don't even talk about, which are superior, the cheesy bread, the wings. Honey, they have some of the best wings. And it's happening at Dominoes, and it's happening tonight. Actually it is around the country, Matt. I have to remind Matt, and I'm like, one time we were shooting a popuar Lett sketch. We were shooting a sketch in my apartment and there was like, you know, a crew of like four people, and I wanted to order like four Domino's pizzas to feed everybody. This was Matt. This was facebook crazy. Yes, I remember this night, but I don't remember this. I want to. I want to say I ordered the Domino's pizzas. It was like five pm. I don't know, it was like seven pm. I was like, okay, Max's amount of time and a lot is like an hour for those pizzas together. I was like, now I remember this. This was iconic. It was like four blocks away. And then basically it's not that interesting a story, but basically it was delayed for three and a half hour. Was shocking. They didn't they did not competed always get I just just at a charge, but I just didn't recognize. And then after they comped it, I was like, oh my god, it's because I bought my cousin's book and it was the press that sold her book. How do you do it? Because I'm I'm too I'm not brave enough to ever dispute. Always dispute. I will dispute for you. If you ever have a dispute, I will take the time and do it for you. Just can we just like role play right now? Like I'm so nice about it? Oh? Really, that's how you do it. I always feel like I always kind of tipped the aggression too much and then they go, no, no, that, So you have to just be confident but nice. So I'll be like, hey, so I was looking through my statement and I noticed this charge from Austin p S. State University. And you know, I live in l A. I haven't been to Austin in years, and I didn't even know that was a university. So I all my statements, I've gone through all my purchases I keep on our sipts live and I live. We cannot find this transaction. And so I'm just concerned that maybe my information was leaked somehow and I shouldn't prevent further charges, so could you, you know, put an alert on that and maybe comp that and just send it hard And they're like, oh yeah, sure, sure. And then after and then my cousin's book came in the mail and I opened it up. And when the press said, wow, small independent pressars, I scammed them out of I feel very bad. That's the one thing I do feel bad about. That public apology is yes, okay, but see but you do have to go through the trouble of getting a new card then right, well for that, but other times, well yeah, because then they'll put a fraud alert. But I ain't going nowhere. I have multiple credit cards. Well no, of course, saying but like you know, but what I what I love is auto phil my my browser knowing my cards. And it's like one of them greatest inventions, the greatest inventions, one of the most dangerous inventions as well. It's a double edged sword essentially, why they came up with that expression double edged word. That's why they say it's double dangerous. But yeah, I'm not doing it now. I don't want to give the impression that I'm doing it on charges that I outright no that I but I will get a complex if I order something delivery, but I will also always be sure to make it blame it on the company and not the driver, because I'm also not trying to get anyone fired. So I said, the driver was great, he was really communicative. Dada, the app told me this, and that a misquoted so and I pulled this a lot and be like, and I ordered food for a party, and my guests were hungry, as I always ordered, and that is a huge, huge, huge sort of like that language is, yes, and my guests were left hungry and it was so embarrassing and I had to spend extra money to then go out and get more food because your app misquoted me and it is an error on Uber's. And then I explicitly say I want to reiterate that the driver was amazing. He was great. He had no part in this error, right, And I wonder if you ever tell them, you know, if if I'm just you know, going back in time, the sketch comedy crew that was at my apartment was hungry. And yes, I was there shooting producing sketch comedy with my best friend Matt. Yeah, we when we were tell him, we were tired while we acted. Yes, the camera picks up on everything, especially are very subtle gorgeous acting in the sketch Facebook Crazy, which I believe is still it's still up online. I think it's I got a Google someone someone. Okay, now this might be my I don't think so, honey, Like, if you have to, if you watch your old acting when you were like, no one's going to see this, but when someone stumbles upon, I'm like, oh god, especially when you become Bow and Yang noted legend of sketch comedy. And then they go back and find your old sketches and you're like, oh yeah, back here when I wasn't good. But as they leave it up, No, Matty wrote Matt and Duty two people involved, and I loved that for you wrote this sketch Facebook Crazy, and it started myself and it was about get this. This was cutting edge at the time people on Facebook who acted crazy. But at the time it was like it used to cry it used to crazy viral again because of this episode. I mean, the readers will definitely want the readers will watch it, but but you have to understand this is a different time. This yeah, when like being being like unhinged on Facebook or on social media was a very specific thing, like in your community, and it was not this like societal problem and which is which it is obviously not become anyway, did you ever get buck wild on Facebook? You know, not as much on Facebook, because I think by the time I hit social media, I was like, oh, the internet is not a safe space. But where I was a hinge where I think it's stem from aim away messages, talk about talking about what a typical put away message was, Like I'm talking dashboard confessional lyrics, ghost of a good thing, emotional lyrics, ghost have a good thing. I'm chasing the ghost of a good thing. I was single, I was seeing anybody. No one had broken up with me or broken my heart because no one had dated me. Oh my god, very emotional, very long aim away messages just so people could be like, hey, what's wrong. I'm okay, I don't want to talk about it. I used to put I used to put dashboard confessional lyrics in my in my profile and all my messages too, And it would literally be like and you kissed me like you meant it, but like vertical like you meant it, and then but and Also it was such a thing of trying to seem like you were in her own Manton conflict for like a stressful group, dynamic situation with your friends when everything was fine and like nothing was happening. I am so dramatically. You know about song Brandy, have you ever? Have you ever loved somebody? So? I used to listen to that song and cry because my answer was no, because I have never loved someone. It was like in high school and I'd be like, no, I haven't loved someone. That song is epic and Diane Warren wrote it really yes, someone does someone someoney to sample on it recently, like like like one of these new R and B girls did a sample. We just talked about Brandy Um. Actually Boonen was on my HBO Max Movie podcast and we talked about how Brandy played Roxy Heart on Broadway in Chicago, and she was like like like a few years, three or four years ago, yeah, within the last decade, Um, but she she was iconic for adding riffs to the score to that candor at score, like the name on Everybody Live, like giving her like iconic Brandy vocals and ever rats soundtrack. Have you ever one of the hardest songs to sing. It's so hard because there's like there's an epic key changeup when she goes have you ever a new and she just makes it sound so effortless because she's so crying. Yeah, the cry, the wailing and pain and her voice. And I had one of those boom boxes that had a little remote control with it. But my boom box was right next to my bed, but i'd like lay in bed with the remote control just so I could be like repeat, yeah, yeah, remember back in the day to when you there was no Spotify there and you had to either buy the album or what I would do, and maybe you guys identified with this was whenever my parents and I would like go out for dinner or whatever, I would put a cassette in my radio and put on from radio and just hit record, and then when I got home, I would listen to the whole thing to see if I had happened to catch speaking of Brandy the Boy is Mine, you know what I mean? I remember The Boy is Mine. I wish it was just was very high placed on the Great Global Song Book, Thank you very much. Um it was I I was chasing that song as a little fag all over town, Honey. I needed it, and I eventually did get it on a cassette, and I would just rewind that ship cassette culture cassette. Well, I mean the music video, very historic moment for feminism and video where it opens and then she's there. Then they combined forces because they're like, it's not going to turn us against each other. We need to talk about this more. We haven't talked about the music video enough. We always talk about the music itself on the boys video, right, Can I just quickly talk about though, this teenage thing that for our generation was aim away messages being very dramatic, pretending you were in love or pretending you were you knew anything about a relationship. Like this makes me think now about have you guys watched The Girl The Girl from Plain Villiet? No, but I watched the original documentary Okay, okay, but great, But first episode like at the end where she's like spoiler alert where she like acts alongside Lea, Michelle and Glee like contend thing to cry like or not pretending to but crying saying the same lines as her, Like, that's a different that for like that generation. It's like, let me like I need to, like, I don't have the vocabulary yet to really express this, this this kind of feeling I have and I can attach it to my own reality yet, And so let me like I would do that with Graze Anatomy all the time. Yeah, I don't know that you would. Well, I I used to it to Lost. I would quote I would quote it to myself. Yeah, I would do it too, Lost, And honestly, oftentimes it was silent the stuff that I was doing. So I remember, I'll never forget when Sun was leaving Jim uh and season one, episode six of Lost and she is in the airport and that iconic scores playing that no No No, and I love the score of Scoose for me, this was literally the moment where I decided I wanted to be in television. I wanted to write television act on television. Was watching Young Jin can him walk away from Daniel Day Kim And then she turned over her shoulder and the score was playing, and he lifted up the orchid and like it was the first nice thing he had done for her in like years of them being married, and she decides to turn back around and get on the plane, and then the plane crashes and they they're they're marooned on the island. But I was like, this wordless thing. And I used to watch it again and again and I would be crying and crying and crying, and it was it was a way to access emotion for me. Yeah, yeah, now you know what to watch. You know. Sometimes still to this day. And one of the things I tried when I had to get emotional and I love that for you was I was listening to the Big Fish soundtrack because that movie. That's great. John August listens to this podcast sometimes and he wrote the movie. And one of the most one of the most prized things in my life is knowing that he likes this podcast and he wrote that movie. I love that movie. And at the end when um, when he's telling the story to his father about um, how they get him to the river and the music is planning. I sometimes will still trigger myself with that and it works most of the time. Oh my god. And in the end where we're like, he wasn't lying, right, he was just exaggerating. That was my first exposure to Helen A. Bottom Carter. I was like, who the hell is this woman? She was amazing in that and then Tim Burton, you know, used her a million times and I don't know, well, we love her, I don't know why. I mean, look, she can just she can come on my screen. You know what I really liked about HBC when I watched the Harry Potter documentary that just came out on HBO, she was so like flirty with Daniel Radcliffe and she was literally she basically was making jokes like She's like yeah, and I remember when I remember on this dumb this day on set, like she was like basically was like making crass like sex jokes with Daniel Radcliffe and you can tell you have such like a little cheeky little relationship and like she's so much older than him, but like you can tell they really get along like a house on fire. And I was like, wow, she's a she seems like a blast. Oh yeah, she's like a fun witch. Yeah, it's like it's rule culture number eleven is a fun She's like a fun which speaking of fun witches, I think the three of us should be fun little bitches. Yeah, ready for this absolute segment. It's a lost culture is a staple really happens every time. It's just like her Domino's What's happening every night and every across the country every week on last Coltureason as we do. I don't think so, honey. And this is a sex sixty second segment. It's a sexty sixty second segment um where we really got something in culture that we don't like very much. Yeah. Absolutely, matthe you have something, sure do Okay, So Matt and I will go first and then and then we'll be put on stern. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey, and your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Stamps and the need for them in the year of our Lord too, I have to say, I have been so late r s v ping to my dear friend Sam's wedding from high school because I don't have a stamp and I need to go get a stamp to mail the r s v P back And where do you even get them? Where do you get them? And I literally went to I literally went out of my house and had to walk the streets and say excuse me. I went. I went to girlsons and I said, do you guys have stamps? And they were like yeah, And she had to think about it because they don't even know they have them. They had them, But then I thought I had to go to the quote unquote post office for a step. I never even heard of this place before. Then to come to find my good friend sam my dearest had put a stamp on the envelope the whole time. So I try to just use my fun your eyes how about that the next time? But it was a wild goose chase for stamps. And I just feel like, how come we can do email, we can have space satellites, and we still need stamps. I don't think that's one minute. Wow. It feels like we can do incredible things in this world. Medicine has come such a long way. I really think it has. There has been so many advancements in technology. The one thing we still need to do which doesn't make any sense, it's giving Pony Express, it's giving cassette tape, it's getting FM radio. Thank you King very much, agree, and its stamps. I would donate a million dollars to the US Postal Service so that they could stay aflow and so that they can go no more stamps for you for the rest of the year. I just feel like, why can't we just I'm really at a loss words, as you can tell. But if you could have those stamps off of your your mail, would you? Absolutely? And I missed stamped something before and cut it off and taped it onto another envelope because it's not even just that stamps are expensive, it's the journey you have to go through to get them. Yes, and in July a stamp will be sixty cents. I can't be right. What are you talking about? Get in here? Is this inflation in America? In America? No way, dog dog, I'll be sending a Marco Polo? Thank you? Where did you hear that? It's true? I read the article two days ago and I just looked it up again. Sixty cents starting July? What do they used to be? I think it was right? Oh my god? What does the article say about the reasoning for this? The bad economy? And first stamp covers the price of a one ounce letter doesn't say, oh, I guess I'm not buying a house this here? Well? Maybe how about how about this? Don't buy any stamps? Didn't budget is all up? My stamp budget? All right, thanks Doug, Thanks Doug. Um. Well that was that talking and I will say things. Things really are getting more expensive. I went down the street the other day and gas was seven. Oh my god, I don't know. You guys do it over there and drive you. I do drive, and I hate it. And then after I'm done driving in l A, I like think about my drive and I get like anxiety of like, oh my gosh, that was dangerous. I did that or answered that text and I could have run myself off the road. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's why I have to. Like the other day, I was like, I had my phone in my hand and I was like, oh, I have to fucking put this down. And it's not like nothing needs my attention as much as the road. Also, our commute to work was long as ship. It was very bad. Yeah you guys were where Studio City, Culver Culver City. Oh yeah, alright, well stamps not a fan? Now, bon Yang? Do you have And I don't think so, honey, that you'd like to do um? I think so I just got and I just got. I keep getting these notifications of like, hey, COVID was around you, okay, was already so by it was in me to me, all right, bon Yang, this is your I don't think so, honey, And your time starts now, I don't think so, honey, reminding me of a web series I was a part of. I didn't remember what the web series was. That was just a dark time in all of our lives in the culture. It was a dark time in sort of content production. This was when we were all being lied to and told that um engagement on Facebook was really really amazing when no one was watching them, and so what was it all for? Anyway? Maybe I learned a thing or two about being on camera. I don't think I learned that much. And now there's this permanent sort of, you know, immortalization of my bad acting, and I don't want people to necessarily make any judgments on that. And gosh, I really hope that we all fifteen stop posting them at least or tagging me in in stories so that I had to remember that I did a bad job or did a terrible line read in summer. Um, I don't think so, honey. Um me not coming in as a fully formed actor from day one, And that's a minute. I'm going to um say, I hear you, my sister, and I'm going to do exactly what you said not to do and tell you that, you know what was actually funny. But the web series that we did that Mike Spence did, which was the Couple's Therapy, Couples Therapy, that was actually really fun I don't know, Spencer, my my my partner and that with Spencer Novak, and he was funny, but I was not. And my partner was one STUDI Green. First of all, that's a lie. You were so good now you and Studio were played a couple. There was so Sudie and I played a couple that you that met because they were Abcrombie models and then and Sudie had Sudie had decided to not be a model anymore and like pivot to like washing her body with like charcoal and stuff, like she became like a vegan like or something like that. And she was so funny and it but we were so dumb. But that was actually funny. And sorry, but I I hear you, my sister, I repeat, but I had to. I had to bring that one up. I cringe. I cringe. It's humbling. Were you a part of web series culture? Yeah? Yeah for sure. And you know what really always annoyed me is when people that were my peers were like starting kickstarters for their web series and I'm like, so you think you five dollars when I'm also trying to make one, and like this is like really cringe ick thing that people would do. There was this these three white, straight, white guys that tried to do this web series and I remember, like, you know, because it was like, if you donate this much, you'll get this. If you don't, it was like, if you donate this much, we'll come watch your improv show and give you notes. And I was like, oh my god, God, it's like every bad thing from that time wrapped up like what it was like, if you do this, you can be a featured extra. I was like, in your web series featured extra? What does that even me? I still don't know. The one that gets me the most is one its It was it would be like and if you donate this much, you can be an executive producer. And it's like, what the fund does that even mean? It's like it means I get like a title card in your web series viewed by sixty people. Well, I guess we were all trying our best. We were all trying our best. Yeah, we were all trying our best. And also the part that scares me about my old work because like we used to like record our improv shows and sometimes is that like when I first started comedy, I thought like accent equals comedy. I think we all, we all would be really shocked and jarred if we were to go back in time and listen to the accidents that we like. And also I think I was on a team with a bunch of like against raight white men who just came out there and talked, so I felt like I needed to do so much. It would literally come out there's like a hunched over Jamaican man. Yeah, and it's like not not a great look, right, and oh God, like it's all contextualized by the circumstances whatever that means. I'm speaking so generally and broadly anyway. I also think there was that there was that time in the beginning when we were all doing comedy where it's like we're talking about accent work for gay men that exclusively meant talking like a black woman, which which which I don't even think we realized was something that was insane to do until like two were until two recently, And I think about how many times I went out there and did quote unquote gay voice. But if I really were to think about it, it it was actually like, you know, talking a black woman in a way that chills me to my core, of course, and there was no one there to say anything, and I didn't know any better. No, we really didn't know any better. Also, my accents were bad. They weren't even good accents. They like melded five different cultures into one. We couldn't afford an accident coach. No, I did not have a dialect coach when I was at Io. No, we couldn't afford lunch. They should hire every comedy theater if they return and choose to hire dialect coach. Isn't it funny that they're gone most of them? It's sad, It's crazy. All right, this is but do you have a nine things? So, honey? I do? Okay, this is I don't think so honey, in her time starts now, I don't think so, honey. High fives, high fiving the jarre end even. Do not high five me. If you try to high five me, I'm going to like hold both my hands together in a fist and one may land on your person. I hate high five. I've always hated high fives, even before we stopped like touching hands during COVID, Like, I don't understand why. Like palm to palm impact is like positive. We're like celebrating, but hitting each other. It's violence. Also, palms are gross and they're like the bottom of your feet. For hands, they're sweaty, they're sticky, they're like so too soft. I'll say it hurts. And now I've touched everything you touched. They're just like met for fingerprints, And like, what are we Why are we teaching kids and dogs to high five? Like what do you get out of it? Almost certainly if you're a significant other ever tries to high five, you report them to the police. And that's one minute. Wow, you're so right. I don't know what what? How did it happen? Yeah, we got to look into this. It's bad dogs. Dogs. Dogs don't know what it means children dogs. Why I think it's cute when a dog puts pop to me. The dog doesn't know what okay, because he's a gentleman. It's formal. This dog don't wear shoes. Do you like that's so true? Do you like handshakes? Don't love a handshake. Really don't love a fist bump, and I don't like this elbow thing we're doing that has really risen in prominence and oh god no, and it's odd because like my number one love language is physical touch, but not that physical touch. No, it's like give it to me full or don't give it to me at all, or not give me a full hug from behind, like hip to hip, something grabbed my shoulders something, but don't just like, oh no, no, jerk at me. And it's too bro. This is too like bro. And also people don't like they especially when they're excited. It hurts you, honestly that you're so right about that, and I think that it's it's really become. I don't know what it is when someone gives a really hard high five, because if I'm gonna high five, I at least want to feel like I did it successfully, and that means you gotta clean crisp, you know what I mean. And that's another thing about high five culture is if you miss it or the high five is bad, it goes you know what I mean, It's terrible. It's really terrible. It can only be I've only done high fives as a bit in the last year. I gotta say, I it's just a bit like yeah, like yeah, brother, like that kind of thing. Yeah, I love to high five a straight guy and go all right, brother, here you go yo, brother's sick day to day. Brother, Yeah, it's really good to see you today, brother. Gross. Well, well listen, I think this wasn't a fabulous episode. I think I'm so happy we talked about hagline. I hope you don't still feel shamed. Oh no, not at all. Now. I'm like, yes, whatever my parents want to do, Like my mom will still have a lot at a garage still, which is the place to do it, like exct place to do it. She'll do that still. And I'm like, please, God, bless Now I'm like whatever they want, like let them be live your life. They've been through too much also, truly, And I'm not just saying this as a bit, like I know the anxiety that can come from like talking to customer service and like all that stuff. So I really will do it for you, oh my god, Like I've done it for friends before because they have such anxiety around it, Like I really will do it, or like if we're at a restaurant, you might need to coach me through it. Yeah, because I here's the thing. I know. I'm nice about it, and I don't make people feel bad when I do it, So that's why I don't mind doing it. Great, great, as long as and you have a very kind voice too, very kind, thank you, but kind, but like clear and like it's it. People people understand what you're trying to say. They feel safe. I think I kind of like talk around stuff too much and people are like, what is he doing? But I feel like with you there's a safety and I really really love that. I feel like every time you talk to you sound really intelligent, even if you're talking about something like dumb. I don't think so. He has a vast vocabulary. We're not doing that. It's one of his It's one of his gorgeous traits. I will also say, I will also say, you know what's fun about and we'll circle it back. But and I love that for you. We often do hear your voice sort of disemblydic voice, because because you're often speaking as the producer into the ears of Joanna Gold played by Vanessa Bayer, and so often. In fact, I just saw one of the new episodes, and it's just a bit about like Joanna is selling leatherette pants and you're like, and you don't say leather, say leatherette, and she and Vanessa's on and she's like and the thing about leather pants, and you just go. You just hear put on his voice go leatherette perfect. And product names are like, what are the best parts of so funny? What was what was the place? Mats by the by the by the time I was saying that, like on camera, it had totally faded away from me as something funny. And then when I watched the premiere, like and I said, and we're gonna start your Monday five am with the Genine by Genine placements and tablescapes, and I was like that sentence is insane, and people were laughing at it, and I was like, oh, that's it sounds completely forgotten. Yeah, you're like backyard grill things into blasters, Tandy fit Woody blasters, Like what is that? Even? I want to buy it? I want to buy it. They are price cutting the plai adelfon margarita makers and also the bar in episode three is called stock Canteen. Laughed at that at that establishing shot, don't it's talking and then they cut to like like you guys walking in and it's just a neontime that has surveys down. I'm like, so fun fact about that. That is the bar from the L word. We want to and they are decorated it or are directed it to be to be like a like a Mexican themed bars, the bar from the L word. Okay, And that's movie magic. And if you want to see more of that and the magic that has put up his performance, you can stream I Love That for you on Fridays on the Showtime app or watch live Sundays at on Showtime. Oh my god, thank you for knowing the info. I know all the info in what a joy it is to have you and what a glorious light you are. Ah, this has been so so fun. I've been looking forward to this for weeks and we had every episode with the song, and the song is have you had so lie? So you need my baby leave me? He would come all right, hennywhere Hi Wow? So listen to that. Listen dude, never Seen Never the album Fine Bye