Large Nerdron ColliderA slip of the tongue creates a mash up we didn't know we needed until today. We chat about what we've been watching, what we will be watching later this year, and what we think we're going to give a pass on. Lookin' at you, Gunslingers.
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Charge on Collider podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the world around us and how very excited we are about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always, is the Fantastical Friday. Jonathan Strickland.
I hate people.
You said you weren't going to include that in the podcast.
I lie, yeah, Before we started recording, I was being a right old curmudgeon, and then I said, you know what, we probably shouldn't record this part. We hadn't started recording yet. I was like, we probably should be glad we don't have this in here. And then I was like, you know what, whatever, I'm going to include it. This is not This is not people in particular. Honestly, It's just that my capacity to handle interactions online is an all time low. It's just that's how it is. It has nothing to do with the people out there who are awesome. They're fantastic. I appreciate all of you, Yeah, all of you out there, I really appreciate you. My mental health has just reached a point where, like online interactions, I just find them like uniformly toxic. It doesn't matter how positive they are. It just I don't know. It doesn't work for me anymore. And Ariel can tell you, like, I don't have a Facebook account anymore, I don't have Instagram anymore. I'm not on TikTok, I'm not on Twitter. The only thing I'm on this blue sky, and I'm almost never there.
I'll say, I've got to slide legit into your DMS if I want to contact you.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't make it easy. It is not easy to get in touch with me. And I try to limit it just to the people that I'm really you know, close with, like friends and family and such.
But I do share the fun stuff that you guys share.
With us, which yes, and then and then I say, that's very nice. I still hate people, but not you, not you, not you up there. I don't hate you. You just I just can't take it.
Social media is hard right now, and COVID made it harder.
I feel like, yeah, no, I think. I think when we were all forced to rely almost solely on social networks in order to stay in touch with each other, that kind of cemented things. And also you got to keep in mind, you know, this should be my therapy session but that that before COVID, I considered myself an extrovert, right, Like, I am an outgoing person. You all know, I'm a chatty kathy, Like you just have to listen to one episode to find that out. But you know now I find it a struggle too urge from my hut in the woods and talk to people. But at the same time, I'm not online anymore, so I'm becoming increasingly isolated. So I'm just letting y'all know that, so that as you listen, you can track my decline.
Some of us are some of us work on that occasionally here and there, like it is a muscle I eat. So I'm an extroverted introvert. I'm uncomfortable in social situations, but I do a lot of them. And things have been picking up, like in regular life in the acting world, and you know, all the stories that you hear and everything else. And like I used to be able to burn the candle at both ends in five places in the middle and to dip into my therapy session. I can't do that anymore. My therapist is like, is it Just like my therapist said that she realized she couldn't do that because she's getting older, and I said, I refuse to act that as an excuse, but because I'm not old yet, not dead yet, but I'm even like it's struggling. It's a muscle, and my muscles, my social and commitment muscles, have atrophied, and so I'm trying to build them back up. But it's exhausting in the meantime.
Yeah, I was talking with a friend of the show, shay Lee, who is in an upcoming production of Harvey, which you know, if you are a fan of Jimmy Stewart then you might be familiar with the film version of Harvey. She's doing, obviously the original staged version. And I was talking to her about how I very much misperforming, like I love performing, and it's been years since I've honestly, it's been six years since I've done any like stage performing type stuff, and part of me thinks that I'm that part of my life might be done, and that's really sad for me. It's not necessarily true. It's just hard for me to imagine taking on the task of auditioning and then if I land apart learning all the lines, going to all the rehearsals, like it's a huge commitment in a life where increasingly I have less and less spare time, and it's just hard for me to imagine doing it. And that's that's what I'm currently struggling with.
Yeah, I mean, I think I feel like everybody struggles with that to some degree. I always found that when I was doing theater, because now I focus primarily on film, but when I was doing theater in a couple of times, I've jumped into it since then, like you might be like, i gotta go to rehearsal and I'm going to miss hanging out with this person or this TV show or whatever, although missing a TV show is a lot less of a thing more, but I always found the experience of being there and being a part of that telling that story rewarding enough by the end of the day.
So it also like depending on the people you work with, you know, you develop those incredibly close bonds like you have show family, and that show family can be a really powerful thing. And I think for a lot of us there are certain years at the Georgia Renaissance Festival where that show family that became like our core group of friends who some of whom are still to this day like close friends. That experience is one that can really fuel you. Even if you're in a show that maybe you personally feel wasn't that good. Sometimes the relationships you have with your show family end up being more important than that.
Yeah. Yeah, speaking of this past weekend, I went out to Marietta the gathering, which is a little outdoor like Craft Fair, tiny dragon Con. They have cosplay contests. They had some random people standing on stage playing D and D with like a kid rolling the giant D twenty on the ground for them. They had like giant TV screens with Mario Kart that you could sit outside and play, and contests of like creator stuff, and then a whole bunch of boots and cosplay and stuff like that. It was a lot of fun. I saw several people I know from Garf and Slash Dragon Con vending there, so that was a lot of fun.
That's cool. I didn't even know that was a thing. But then also like, it's pretty far away for you. We haven't We didn't record an episode when I got back, did we.
No, we took the week off.
So yeah, the last time I was between the last time we recorded and this time, I flew to Doha, Qatar, to attend the Web Summit and and so like, I feel like I'm missed out on some stuff because I was out of the country for several days. Had I known about the Marietta thing, I probably would have loved to have checked that out.
I honestly it was. It was last Saturday, and I was like, what do I want to do for lunch? Is there anything I want to do today? And it just popped into my head. I'm like, oh, is this this weekend? And I checked. So I will try to be more on top of it next year for you, so I can give you a heads up if it's happening.
I appreciate it. Yeah, Like this year probably wouldn't have worked out because I was back in town Saturday, but I my body was back in town. I don't think my internal clock got back in town until like yesterday.
Yeah, but like, oh Christmas geek, Molly's Oh Christmas geek. She was there, Cap was there, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so and a couple other people.
Yeah folks, y'all don't know. But I love that we're just using this to catch up with each other. It's our now.
But here's the thing. I if you are local or if you're not and you have something like this in your area, I highly recommend it because it's it's kind of fun like dragon Con, but it's a lot more chill.
Yeah. It actually reminds me of the convention circuit the days before things like dragon Con, and there used to be a convention called magnum Opus Con before those conventions got really huge and rowdy. Magnam Opis Cohn was more of a party con. Dragon Con is kind of a party con. Magnum Opis Con was like, hold my beer kind of party con. But it makes me think of those days before when the conventions were a bit smaller. Often they were more focused, like they'd be focused on a specific property, maybe it's a bit Doctor Who or Star Trek, something like that. And part of me misses those days because the community was smaller and more tightly knit, and largely that was because science fiction, fantasy, horror, these genres were not really mainstream the way they are today. And that's not an old man saying things used to be better. They were just different, and some of those differences were cool because you could have these more meaningful, I feel connections with people. But it's also cool to go to something like a Dragon Con or a San Diego Comic Con, where you are in a sea of humanity of people who absolutely love the heck out of something. There's something really special about that too. So I don't want to say that one is superior to the other. They're different. You'll get different things out of them. But it is definitely worth exploring.
One of the most popular activities there because there were a few, like there was a giant, life sized hartest that made noises that you could take a picture with, you know, like I said, the games and the contests and things like that. Gaming area there was a whole bunch of gaming area too. Was there was a larp group and I don't remember which one because it's not when I'm familiar with who set up like a little sparring ring and was like fight our night, and so they'd give the kids Boffer weapons and the kids would go in and have a sparring match with the night. Yeah. Well, I mean they were usually trying to be pretty tactical because you know the thought of like fighting a night and they'd hit him in the le like oh you got my leg, and you'd go down on one knee, which is you know, kind of a hit location game, which are the kind of games I play. But what a great idea not to get kids into LARPing. But yeah, if I were a kid and I was like, oh, give me a sword and fight a night, one hundred percent so smart.
Yeah, now it makes me think of a Renaissance festival type event I went to when I was a kid. It was really small, one of those very small ones, but they had like a an archery area where you were using buffer archery arrows, which were I mean, these were in the old days where it was essentially like a tennis ball on the end of a dowel rod and you were firing at people in armor. But I got into trouble because I kept hitting this one guy in the the nethers, which I swear I wasn't aiming for, but it was like it was like his cod piece had a magnet in it and that the arrows were made out of the other part part of the magnet. Because I was like, I swear, I'm not aiming, like it's a heavy arrow, I'm aiming for his torso it's going down.
I'm sorry, Yeah, you do have to correct. So back when I played Kingskate. I took up archery, and you just had a bow and then you would you'd have basically a real arrow shaft with a quarter on the end of it and then thee the close open cell foam around it, and yeah, you really have to correct for the extra weight on the front of that arrow. And even still, I have a very good friend who also played that game. He was also a really good archer. Always if there was an arrow being shot, he was getting hit in the car.
It's just it's it's the way of things. It's just what you have to do. Well, speaking speaking of stuff that we've done since the last time we recorded, we like to talk about things we've watched, and as it turns out, both of us have watched a good deal of stuff.
Yeah, so I'll go I'll go through mine pretty quickly because a lot of it's not super new. Drop Out had a new season of Smarty Pants come out, and I watched the first one of that. I learned my husband's a monster. I love them. Still watching BSG, still watching White Lotus. I'm a little bit behind. So far, they haven't done the thing that's going to trigger me to go nope and leave I finished Pop Culture Jeopardy. I like the team that won. I watched the Oscars. It was pretty low key, which wasn't necessarily bad, but Pixar didn't win Best Animated Film for once, so that was cool. And I watched several and man, what an episode.
Yeah, tonight's episode episode seven, I think it.
Was maybe maybe we might be up to the last episode this week.
Yeah, so we we haven't seen the one that as usual, we haven't watched the one that goes live today because we're working. But yeah, I also caught up on that. It was. It was a hum dinger of an episode.
Yeah. It it didn't hit any of my X, but it hit some very like emotionally sensitive places for me. I was kind of surprised, not angry, but surprised.
I was also like genuinely impressed in a way it was taking me out of the show, but also I was genuinely impressed with the cinematography of that episode. Like there's some really creative choices and some incredibly difficult shots that were done, like real shots, not they didn't fudge with CGI or anything. Yeah, were really technically hard to do, and I was extremely impressed from a technical perspective, even though, like I said, it kind of took me out a little bit because if I'm like, if I realize I'm saying, wow, that's a great shot, I'm no longer thinking I'm seeing a story. I'm thinking I'm watching a television production. Yeah, it's subtle, but it does happen well.
And then and then this episode dropped such a hint on stuff that's happening a couple of them, but not enough to actually figure out what's going on that. Yeah, I mean I was also trying to figure it out.
We're all pretty sure that kir is actually a goat. That's really what it seems to be.
Now, it's it's a really just keefer and they forgot the fat.
But you also watched the first couple of episodes of a new series on Disney Plus, as I.
Understand, Yeah, Devil Dare Double ol.
Dare Devil Dare where kids get together, they blind the kid kids, and then they compete in various physical challenges.
Yeah, so over the over the week, I think on Tuesday, Daredevil Born Again the first two episodes dropped and I watched those. I was a fan of the Netflix show, and it felt like the Netflix show. I mean it didn't feel rehashy it. My husband is debating even whether it's in the same universe, though.
I would wager that it is. I don't know. I haven't. Did you watch all there were three seasons of Daredevil.
I did. I didn't like the later seasons, but I want to say I watched only the first two.
I don't think I ever. Did the third one come out after the Defenders or after?
I don't remember. I think it came out before, before or during. I've watched all of Daredevil. The only thing that I have not finished watching out of all of the Netflix Defender stuff, which is for those who don't know Daredevil and Jessica Jones and Luke Cage not Nick Cage and Iron Fist.
And which I almost called iron Claw.
Yeah, the only thing that I oh, and I guess Punisher. I only watched the first season of Punisher.
Yeah, I haven't. I'm way way behind because I've only watched I saw the first two seasons of Daredevil, and I saw the first season of Jessica Jones, so I didn't see any of the rest. Like I didn't watch, I didn't. I didn't get through a full season of Luke Cage. I liked what I saw, I just dropped off of it. It was in the first season. I didn't ever watch any of Iron Fists. I haven't seen the Defenders. I haven't seen any of The Punisher other than like his appearances in Daredevil. Yeah. So like as much as I really liked that first season of Daredevil, I was a bad fan and that I didn't follow any of the restless stuff.
It was it was the TV that my husband and I could agree on watching together for a bit because I liked so much. This is not a dig on him at all. I like so many different genres and shows that it is impossible to like all the same things as me. On the other hand, Tony is a lot less affected by some things that I have a harder time watching, so a lot of times he'll go down and watch a show without me, or I'll watch a show without him. But this was something we could agree on together. We've gotten we found a lot more commonality in our TV show watching stuff, but there's still plenty of stuff that I like that he does and vice versa normal right, the only I think everything was better in its first season, Every single show exception of Iron Fist. Iron Fist for me was kind of a dud of a show. Didn't really care for the lead either. However, the final scene of I think it was season two, I don't know if it got three seasons. The final scene of the final season of Iron Fist finally did something where I'm like, if that was the story, I would be in because it's hilarious and so, you know, we talked about I think the last the last show we did two weeks ago, that they might be bringing the Defenders back. They better pick up from that spot in Iron Fist if it is in fact in the same universe as a prime Marvel Universe DCU MCU, because otherwise me But back to Daredevil, it was good. It was interesting. It's we know from the trailers that it's Matt Murdoch has kind of given up the mask, and also Kingpin Wilson Fisk kind of gets elected to be mayor. So you know, for some people, maybe a little bit close to current events, but not not a one for one, it's not they didn't. This show was made, you know, months years ago, so very well done, very well acted, a little slow, but that's all I can talk about because they don't want to ruin anything.
Yeah, because I still I have not watched Daredevil yet, and it's not through lack of interest. I actually really want to watch it. It's just that this week has been very busy for both me and my partner Becca. She you know, she's she's had a lot of late nights at work, so by the time she gets back with me trying to get back into the swing of the Eastern time zone, they're just there was no way to watch an episode. It was too late, right, Like, Yeah, so we're hoping we can maybe check it out tonight, but we'll see. It's okay for me to jump in with the stuff I've watched.
Oh yeah, I said I was going to be quick and then I absolutely was not, so please.
Well, I also watched Severance, as we've already talked about, I started. I watched a couple more episodes of High Potential. I've talked about that one I think two weeks ago. But I also watched a bunch of stuff that has been out for a long time, but I had not dipped my toe in, So I watched the first I got through the first full season of Mythic Quest, and I'm now into season two. That's the Rob mcalhany series that follows a company that's in the computer game business. They make an MMO called Mythic Quest, and it's very silly. It's very much a send up of the video game industry and all the stuff that surrounds the video game industry, including like streamers and that kind of stuff. That being said, they've also included a couple of episodes that are sort of tangentially related to the main storyline, but only like one of them in the first one called Dark Quiet Death, is barely connected to the main story at all, and yet it's one of the best. It's my favorite episode from season one, and I like the show, but that episode in particular was really powerful, a strength, particularly emotional, kind of tragic, interesting, well worth watching. Like I don't put it as high up as a long long time from the Last of Us. That episode, I think is still the best episode of TV I've ever seen. This is not that good, but it's approaching that for me.
But don't you don't expect that from a show like Mythic Quest, which is largely dark comedy.
Right, Yeah, And there's still quite a bit of comedy in a dark, quiet death, but it's it's tinged with a lot of sadness. If you're an empathetic person like me, it's gonna hit you hard. And also if you care deeply about things like creative passion and control over your your creative endeavors, if you care about that kind of stuff, it'll hit you hard because it's really it's all about the balance you have to take between pursuing your creative vision and making concessions in order for that to be a reality, right, Like, ultimately it comes down the balance between art and commerce, which is an incredibly we'll talk about that more in this episode, but that's an incredibly challenging thing to do, Like how do you balance out the desire to create art versus the need to cater to commerce in order to make that a possibility? And sometimes you make the wrong choice and you don't know it's the wrong choice until after you've made the decision and then it's too late. That's kind of what A dark quiet Death is ultimately all about. And they did a really good job handling it, especially considering that it's you know, that's short form TV. It's not like they had a full hour to tell that story, so highly recommend, even if you just watched that episode, because you can watch it outside the context of the rest of the show, because it really doesn't cross over into that very much. Highly recommended. I watched a bit more of Harley Quinn the animated series. I got through the first season. I'm into season two. I'm enjoying that. I started watching Resident Alien, the Allan Tutick series.
What do you think about that one?
I like it, actually I do. What do you not like it? No?
So like in the first season, I think in like the first couple of episodes, the alien is doing the thing where like this puckered in this puckered and this part was left unaffected, and I thought it was a bad attempt at a crash joke that was not creative and landed poorly with me. And that kind of like felt from there on. The humor kind of felt.
That way across the board. I can see what you're saying, Like I think of it. I think of it as a slightly less zany take than say Third Rock from the Sun, where the idea is that there's this alien life for him, that is, in this case, he was not sent to Earth to study humans that's not the purpose. He's forced to be a human because his mission is to actually wipe out humanity, but his ship crashes before he's able to deploy his weapon, and so he's posing as a human while he's still intent, at least in the first season, he's still intent to carry out his mission, and so his observations are things that he wasn't expecting at all, Right, Like he was never intending to pose as a human being, just has to in order to try and complete his mission. And yeah, I get that, Like there's some of that crassness, but Alan Tudick's performance is still really entertaining, and I actually really like the ensemble cast a lot. I think everyone is doing a pretty darn good job on that show. It is a little weird because all the humans are pretty quick to dismiss how weird Alan Tudick's character is. They accept it way easier than you think a normal human actually would. That's a little weird.
Yeah, So I think I think part of the problem for me, And I've watched a season and a half of it, maybe a full two seasons, I don't know, but so I've got I watched the entire first season and a good part of the second season because I had a bunch of friends who liked it. I'm like, Okay, well, maybe maybe it'll grow on me. I made a friend watch ten episodes of Lost once to try to get it to grow on them. They quit just at the point where it got good. But you couldn't skip those first time. But the cast is great. I think their acting is good, and I like their chemistry together. Again, you said some of them are quick to dismiss how weird things are. It's a writing thing for me. It just doesn't quite hit. But I think part of the problem is I was also I also started watching it at the same time I was watching Doom Patrol, another thing that Alan Judic was in, because he's in everything because he's a very talented and lucky guy. And so it was like, I'm watching Doom Patrol and that humor very much hit for me, and so it just didn't quite compare.
Sure, yeah, I can see that, Like, I'm finding it entertaining enough to stick with it. Right. It hasn't become one of my favorite shows, but it's one where I'm like, I'll keep watching this. On top of that, I watched the movie Wolf's while I was on my flight to Qatar. No wait, that was coming back from Katar?
Is that the French one?
No Wolf's is a film on Apple TV Plus. It's got Brad Pitt and George Clooney and they're both playing fixers. So like the Wolf, the wolf from pulp fiction, right, they're the they're the guy you call it. You've never seen pulp fiction.
I've seen like five minutes and I fell asleep.
I mean, we'll have to watch it sometime. It's you know, it's it's it's an important movie in pop culture frame. But anyway, the wolf is who you would call if let's say that you know you unexpectedly murdered somebody and now you need to clear up all the evidence so that the police don't figure out that you you unalived a person. You call the wolf, and the wolf comes in and knows how to clean a scene so that you know there's no evidence left behind. That's essentially Brad Pitt and George Clooney both play characters who do this. They are unaware of one another. At the beginning of the movie. They both believe themselves to be the best at what they do and that no one else can do what they do, so's there's a lot of like conflict when they come into contact with one another because they both kind of have this chip on their shoulder of being really good at it and they can't believe anyone else could be as good as they are, and yet they both are forced to work together to deal with the aftermath of a scene in a hotel room. That's all I'll say, because it's worth watching. It's entertaining. It's not like the best film I've ever seen or anything. It's largely carried by the performances of Pitt and Clooney. But it is fun to watch.
I think I remember us talking about that trailer when it came out. Is it more entertaining or less entertaining than The Gorge?
I'd say it's more entertaining than The Gorge.
Fantastic.
I thought the Gorge was fine. This is better than fine. Would put it as good, uh, And that the parts that are really really fun are because of Pitt and Clooney and their chemistry. They're just they're great together, and of course they've worked together before multiple times. So yeah, I recommend checking it out if you're just looking for something to watch. Oh, and I also watched the first couple of episodes of Reacher season three, or as I like to call it, Toxic Masculinity, the series, which I'm just really watching at this point to see one man meat mountain fight another man meat mountain. It just hasn't happened yet, but you can tell it's going to.
You need protein in your diet, so there you go.
Yeah that they're this, Just watching this will give you an excess of protein. So can't recommend it really because I find it. I don't know. I find it to be a little too juvenile, power fantasy ish for me, but I don't know. I'm still watching it. I have no I have no good excuse.
Yeah, yeah, I mean you don't. You don't need an excuse to watch things.
John Maybe not. I can't justify it though, Okay, but anyway, Yeah, that's that's what I'm watching. And now we are half an hour into this episode.
Yeah, I mean you said we were really just using it to catch up, but I mean it's all geeky stuff.
Yeah. We also we really whittled down a lot of stuff, Like we had our lineup was about twice as long as it is right now. But then we were like, we made some decisions some stuff we felt was kind of on the cusp as far as whether or not it's really geeky some stuff. It was like, this is a final trailer, but it's a trailer for something we've already talked about the earlier trailers, and not enough has changed for us to keep it in here. So y'all are getting the cream of the crop, which is why we're dithering around so much in the front half.
Yeah, I will say, like I am anticipatory for the things that I'm going to watch this week to talk about next week.
So yeah, yeah, so that's also going to be it. We're going to be probably much more animated, perhaps even literally next week.
Oh wait, literally animated.
Yeah, who knows. Okay, we've got fans out there, they might animate something.
Oh that's true.
I was. I don't have any actual plans. I'm not I haven't been cast as a voice actor in anything that was not me. That was not me coyly suggesting that, hey, you should check out Harley Quinn season six.
I wouldn't put it past you, though, but I would be mad that I didn't know before our listeners.
You would also be mad if you had found out that I got cast in something and like your agent didn't bring you up the opportunity.
I mean, so, yes, there was one character in Darreed Nevil that I'm like, I could have auditioned for that, but it's fine. The person playing the character is delightful and I like them a lot. And I am still new and I'm getting my agent. My agent kicks butt. I have had an over abundance of blessings of auditions this year. Yeah, so I'm grateful for every single one. Yeah, I'm grateful for a really goofy, funny one that was fun, So thank you, I am. And I've got another one. I've got a film tomorrow, So I am incredibly grateful. I don't think my agent listens to this podcast, but if he does, you're awesome.
I just like giky things so well. No, yeah, And my comment was more about like, if I landed a gig and you didn't know about it, and you didn't even know the gig was a thing, that would be that would that would that would feel bad to you? Right? Like I would not I would not do that if I, if I had the opportunity, I'd be like, hey, Ariel, I got this crazy, you know, ask and did you even know about it? I wouldn't spring it on you on the show, though.
That would be funny, Yeah, for sure, I mean it would be funny. I would be mad, but not like real mad mad. Sure, yeah, not green mad, because that's cool. Okay, So I guess it's time for thirty seconds or less.
All right, let's let's do this. I believe you will start us off.
I do. And it just really shouldn't even belong in thirty seconds or less because I don't want to diminish someone's passing. George Low passed away. He is the voice of space Ghost. As the voice of space Ghost, you know, a big big in the geek community. I know a lot of friends that have worked with him that really loved him. I've even had good experience of experiences with him back when I worked information services at Dragon Con. He brought us doughnuts and asked us who our daddy was, which was hilarious. It wasn't in a creepy way. It was in a fair very fun cute way. But he was always very nice. The few times that I've been able to interact with him, he was only sixty seven. So it's very sad to hear about.
Yeah, yeah, very prolific voice actor, So yeah, sad to hear that. Well. On Entertainment tonight, the Russo Brothers talked about their upcoming Avengers movies for Marvel. They revealed that Robert Downey Jr. Is taking his role as Doctor Doom very seriously, apparently going so far as to craft a deep backstory for his character. It's nice to know that the actors are sometimes putting in more thought behind their characters than the studio does sometimes.
Next more Marvel news, Daredevil obviously hasn't dropped its whole first new season, but we already had news about season two. I guess you know skip thirty seconds ahead if you don't want anything about anything. We have learned that the actress who plays Karen Page will be in season two. That's all. That's all I'm gonna say.
Cool. Well, as millennials quiver with excitement over the thought of another film in the Shrek series being on the way, one gen z actor is getting ready to call the big Green Ogre Daddy. That would be Zendaya, who will be voicing Shrek's daughter in the upcoming film so far, we don't really have any details as to what the plot is going to be, but Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, and Cameron Diaz are all slated to return way to make.
Shrek creepier than Darty was.
I was so proud of the title I made in our lineup, whereas like Ariel's gonna hate this yep.
In twenty twenty, we got news that Tiana from Princess, which is a movie I've only seen half of. I need to sit down.
And watch it.
Along with the ampersion of group stuff anyhow, was going to get a TV show on Disney Plus. While that got pushed back and push back and push back, and then the other show that it was slated to go with, the Malana Show, got turned into a movie. And so now the show has been turned into something that's going to be more of like a short form format, whatever that means. And we don't know when that's coming out. It's not completely gone, but it's dwindling.
Yeah, don't be surprised if this ultimately dies on the vine, which would be a shame but is a possibility. Well. John Francis Day and Jonathan Goldstein are screenwriters known for working on Dunges and Dragons, honor among thieves, as well as a project called Game Night. Now they are hoping to avoid jail by taking a chance opening a different kind of community chest. By that, I mean they've been tapped to write a film based off the board game Monopoly. Hopefully this turns out to be more like Clue and less like Battleship.
David Arquette, who like Dewey and Scream one through Cinema, will be back for Scream seven.
I haven't.
I've only seen through Scream three. The third was my favorite. I know that's can like it say yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Apparently Dewey dies in one of the screams, so we don't know he's gonna be back.
Yeah. I was actually curious about that. I have not seen all the screen movies, but it was my understanding that that character had perished. He almost always gets real messed up, like stabbed a whole bunch, and then comes back the next next fell being a bit more limpy than he was before. So I am curious to see how this works out well. Employees who are working in production management at Walt Disney Animation Studios have successfully ratified their first union contract with the studio, according to Variety, and it sounds like it was pretty much needed. Production managers are going to see a twenty four percent raise, Production supervisors will get a twenty nine percent bump, and production coordinators will get a thirty five percent pay rise. Solidarity, whoop.
The last I think this is the last one. This is the last one. I don't know how I'd feel about this if I were an actor. But Jim Carrey's highest grossing movie of all time is now Sonic the Hedgehog three above Bruce Almighty and The Truman Show and Man in the Moon, which was great. It has come in with a total of four hundred and eighty five point seven million dollars so far. On the one hand, I would if I don't know how Jim Carrey feels about it. If it were me, I'd be like, I wish these other things that meant that were like more poignant did better. But on the other hand, yay, I'm in a successful movie.
I don't know. Well, let me put to you this way, Ariel. You know what's different between the money that he got from Sonic versus the money he got from Man on the Moon. What nothing? It all spends just the same. Okay, okay, yeah, the money it's all the same. I mean, I guess from an artistic level you could get there, but from a business level, you're like, you know what pays for another yacht?
I mean true, because I think he had retired and then came out of retirement to do it because yazah, I need the money.
Uh yeah, Well, let's talk about some of the trailers and stuff we got. And first up, we got a trailer for the second season of and Or. I still have not watched season one, but I will say the trailer for season two one it looks tense as heck. It also looks real slick, like super high production value, like on the level of one of the Star Wars movies, which you know, as much as I like Mandalorian, I felt that that was maybe a half step below the Star Wars like film production value. This looks like it's on the same level. Like it actually looks better to me than Rogue one Dead. So I was really impressed by the production stuff. And I mean, like, the trailer is really intense. It is odd to have a modern song playing against a Star Wars trailer that kind of threw me out of things. But other than that, I thought it was pretty good.
Yeah, I still need to watch the latest Star Wars show, the one about that's essentially the Goonies. I watched the first episode and enjoyed it, and then got distracted by a million other things. I have watched some of V and Or season one. I'm slowly getting through it, like ten minutes twenty minutes at a time, and then I'll realize that I've been playing on my phone the entire episode and have to go back and watch it again. It is getting better the later it goes on. I just found the pacing too slow, and I like a good noir, but I found the pacing too slow, and there wasn't enough to make me care about the situation the characters were in at the start. It also had some issues with like Boba fet with like going back and forth with flashbacks, which wouldn't have been a problem if I hadn't kind of gotten singed by it from Bubba fet.
That's fair.
Yeah, but it is getting better. It is tense. Can I give you a synopsis of what's happening? No? Season two looks good, though I will say that it didn't feel as tense. The trailer didn't feel as tense to me as maybe it did to you, I would wager, but it looks very good, and you're right. The production value is very high, and I think that the trailer does something fixes something that I have been struggling with in Star Wars a little bit.
Which is.
I want to see Star Wars stories that are outside.
Of the Skywalkers. The Skywalkers.
Yeah, so I'm happy for all of those, and especially the ones that aren't prequels though, and ors a prequel, but but it's a prequel to a prequel, but it's Star Wars. The newer stuff, I feel like has been putting in a lot of like modern slick industrial feelings, stuff that we had some of it in the original series, more of it in the three prequels, and then some I guess some more of it in the latest trilogy of Star Wars. But it is always felt disjointed to me. So it feels like I'm stepping from a Star Wars world to mass effect to suburbia, and and getting all of those tones to fit together hasn't been something that I felt like Star Wars has done super well, even though I fully accept that they all exist in this universe long ago and far away, but this trailer does it really well.
Yeah, No, it is tough because the original trilogy set so much of the tone, and it's set in an outer rim environment, right, Like all the planets that we see in the original trilogy are supposed to be on the outskirts of the Empire, so that can explain away. Oh yeah, it's a worn down sector, like everything. All the ships are old and you know, like the Millennium Falcon is kind of a patchwork, and the X wings and stuff all look like they've been hobbled together by a rebellion, because that's what's supposed to be. But we never really saw the other worlds where things were more slick, so those felt more out of place, especially for me, like in the prequels, where everything felt new and like fresh out of the box, and that was kind of odd compared to the first trilogy. But it is fair to say that all these things can coexist in the same universe. It just felt weird because we never saw any of that. Other than the fact that the Empire ships looked fairly new and pristine. We didn't really see any of that in the original trilogy, so it fell out of place. I guess this series for me would probably have the same problem that all prequels have for me, which is that you know what's going to happen, Like you know what the ultimate ending is for these characters, like we've already seen that, so they can't be put in any situation where you don't know if they're going to make it out because you know how their story ends already, And that does make it a bit of a challenge. But it looks like it's well made, so that at least I'm very excited about. Don't know, maybe it'll be enough for me to watch it, because like I'm so burnt out on Star Wars. It's like I still haven't seen Mandalorian season three, let alone any like I haven't seen Osaka or whatever her name is, Ahsoka. I haven't seen any of her stuff.
I'm much further behind in all of my Star Wars. And I was excited about like the Accolade, and I haven't gotten.
To that either. I haven't watched that either.
That falls into the place of Tony was super into The Mandalorian with me and Boba Fett kind of and and or both kind of hit us as like, so getting him to watch New Star Wars with me is a little bit more of a challenge, and then I have to find time to watch it by myself.
Yeah. Well, as far behind as I am with Star Wars, it's nothing, nothing like how far behind I am with Doctor Who. But we did get a trailer for what they are now calling season two of Doctor Who, because screw you, that's why.
It's season two. So I think it's because cheety Gatwa Doctor has been on Disney Plus. So Disney kind of is now the forerunner, at least in the US for Doctor Who. I don't remember if it's also in the UK. I think it's still a BBC thing over there. But you know, in the UK they call it series and over here they call it seasons. So technically I guess it's the first seed. It is the second season of gott was Doctor, so it's kind of correct.
Yeah, it's just so confusing because if you're talking about seasons the way you would in a sane person, thirty nine right, like, like, how do you because we already renumbered the seasons with Eccleston's Doctor right like that was kind of seen as a full reboot, even though it was a continuation, like he was not the first doctor, he was like the eighth or ninth, ninth I think. So. Yeah, just very confusing for people like me who just if you're trying to tell me about something that's happened in the Doctor Who, continue and first of all, don't bother. I'm not interested enough and it's going to take you way too long to try and do it in a way that even makes sense to me. But secondly, this numbering system makes it even worse.
It does actually make it harder to find on Disney Plus Disney Plus if you're listening, it is confusing to find new episodes of this series of Doctor Who. I would say that you could start with Shooty. There's a couple of characters that they introduced earlier on you know, and of course there's a bunch of backstory you miss, But you could start with this doctor's story if you had interest. Not saying that you do that being said, even though he's not my favorite doctor, this trailer looks really good.
It does. It looks high in our it looks exciting. Again. Production values I think are probably the highest they've ever been for Doctor Who. I think it's fair to say, like Doctor Who has something of an infamous reputation, especially in the early seasons, of being adorably low budget, like they're telling great stories with great actors with no money, and sometimes that is evident on screen to a point where it's almost comedic. And then once the reboot happened, they got you a pretty big boost in budget, but still, you know, not like crazy high budget, just better, right, And then this most recent one looks like to me, at least, it might be the most money that's ever been poured into Doctor Who.
Yeah, I will say not. They weren't always telling great stories. Some episodes of Doctor Who are just crap. They're not crap. They are not good to me. I'm sure some people enjoy them, but I'm just like, this is such a dumb story.
I can't. I can't.
But this trailer for this season, yeah, very high budget. It's got some interesting new like things in there that I'm excited to see how they explore. It doesn't rely too heavily on past nostalgia either. There might be a couple of things in there from the past that true Doctor Who whites are going to be like, oh that none of them pinged me. I'm a little bit rusty on Doctor Who, I will admit, and you know, a little bit distracted. I've been very busy the past couple of months. But it looks really good. I'm excited to see where they go. I immediately like he's going to have at least partially a new companion this series, and I love her already.
So.
I am excited for this. I am more excited for Doctor Who than I've been in a while.
That's great. I love hearing I also I love the shot of the cartoon character emerging all the cinema screen. That to me was like like peak, it peaked my interest.
I'm more excited about that than anything else I think. I hope it's a good episode.
I hope that the closest I can compare it to as far as interest goes. And I haven't watched the other one, by the way, but it's the episode with Neil Patrick Harris playing the toymaker or whatever. Like I was interested in that because of Neil Patrick Harris, and then it's clips of it. It was like, maybe I need to check this a little bit.
Yeah, you know, Neil Patrick Harris is fun. It is it was fun in the conclusion, but it relied heavily on former Doctor Who knowledge, like old school doctor Who. I'm not even talking about ecleston on. I'm talking about prior to eccleston knowledge.
Yea, that's the character or something. Yeah, he was.
He was playing a character that showed up a long time ago and kind of referring to things that even I had to remind myself what they were. So it was fun, but it wasn't amazing.
Yeah. Yeah. And if you're like me and you ever try to rely on something like a wiki to help get you up to speed, let me just save you the trouble because if you read any wiki related to Doctor Who, it's like you're reading something written by a person who themselves is disjointed out of time because you can't follow anything.
You go through like twenty rabbit holes to try to find your answer, and then you can't find your way back.
Yeah, it's a fool's errand don't do it. Also, Ariel would tell you not to go and see Asterix and Obelix because she felt it was the worst trailer she's ever seen.
Uh, okay, it's at least the worst trailer I've seen. In a good while, and I will say it's the worst movie I've ever seen. Children of Men and Sucker Punch Fight that out.
Children of Men is a great movie.
It's no it. You know what you are allowed to enjoy Children of Men. It left me so hopeless that I questioned why I even watched it. It was just depressing to me, that's all. And I didn't even think poignantly depressing, like I The plot was forecast throughout the entire movie, and then I was left with no hope.
I still feel that your vision of the end of that movie and mine are fundamentally different than lest.
It up to interpretations, I understand, I understand.
I'm not saying that you're wrong about it. I'm just saying it's obviously one hundred and eighty degrees from what my interpretation.
Which is interesting because usually I'm a little bit more optimistic than you.
I would say, yeah anyway. So, but besides your wrong take on Children of Men, you think.
I use their context clues to figure out what the end meant. There was no hope in the movie. Why would they give me any of the end? No, So, the problem with Asterix's abe, as you talked as you mentioned when we were talking about this not on the air is that it's this trailer was translated from French, which means that some of the jokes and the timing maybe don't hit quite as well. Some of the voice acting doesn't quite line up with like the mouth the mouth movements, and that does hurt it. However, the trailer has a whole bunch of false starts. The trailer is very long. There's a whole bunch of false starts, and then there's a bunch of like talking with little to know like background music to make it feel exciting, and then they bring in the background music later and it barely even focuses on on Asterix or Obelix. And I'm just like, so the end joke is the only one that maybe in the trailer is the only one that maybe has a little bit of humored in it to me, and that one is so out of context that even it fails, I could just tell that maybe it's clever.
Well, and let's clear, okay, So Asterisk and Obelix are a comic strip, a French comic strip, and it follows these galls g a U l s who live in what is now France, in the middle of the Roman Empire, but they are kind of independent, They're resistant, you know. And so the story of Asterisk and Obelix is usually about how these two heroic characters, Asterisk, who is this tiny, little but incredibly strong or incredibly clever warrior, and his buddy Obelix, who is not as clever but is like insanely strong, big old buffoon of a character. They're little misadventures in this world and a lot of I think the charm of it is reliant upon the French sense of humor, which is not the same as American or English sense of humor. And I've seen a lot of Asterisk and Obelisk stuff over the years. None of it has ever worked for me, Like it's just it's not my thing. Like I've tried multiple times and this is like dating back to the eighties and it just never even as a kid, it never worked for me. And this trailer, I wouldn't say it was worse than any of that, but it wasn't necessarily better either. The animation looks like it's, you know, pretty good, but yeah, it does. It doesn't appeal to me either, I think for people who are fans of it, they might find more in this than I would, But yeah it didn't. I didn't have as strong a negative reaction as Ariel did, but it didn't interest me either.
Yeah. That's really all I gotta say about it. But I do have a lot to say about the trailer for The Bondsman, which is Amazon show that's coming out next month next month, Wow, starring Kevin Bacon, where he is a guy who dies and then is brought back to hunt demons. It reminded Jonathan and I of different shows, but I think equally in a positive way.
Yeah. So he plays a bail bondsman in life, and so the whole joke here is that he dies and then Hell essentially employs him to be a bondsman for Hell, where his job is to go out and wrangle up demons that have escaped Hell so that they can be returned to their rightful place. Now. To me, this reminded me of a show that came out in the mid two thousands called Reaper. This was I think on the CW had Ray Weiss as the devil. The plot of that was that this young man finds out that his parents had agreed to hand their firstborn son over to the Devil in return for well, it doesn't matter, but they had promised him thinking that they were incapable of having children. They thought they had pulled one over on the devil. Turns out they're wrong. Kids born. He grows up, finds out that he's been promised to the devil, and what the devil wants him to do is to hunt down escaped souls from Hell. So similar premise. They're souls, not demons, but they're all really bad people, that's why they were sent the hell in the first place. That was like serial killers and stuff, so kind of similar premise. But Reaper was more of an overt comedy, whereas The Bondsman looks like it has just a lot of humor incorporated into kind of a supernatural procedural. Yeah not quite a zany.
Yeah to me, it looks like supernatural, but where the main character is Bobby, who is the guy who kind of sent brothers on a bunch of missions for a while, kind of like their mentor, although that actor is also great. My new theory is that it's actually Valentine McKee from Tremors who has taken on an alias, and this is and moved away from Tremorland. I've only watched the first movie and it scared the snookers out of me when I was little and I watched it, I was I was only seven when it came out.
I was about to say, like, Tremors scared.
You, Like, yes, I haven't watched it again since.
Oh you should. It is a great entertaining monster movie.
You would also tell me to watch Killer Clowns from Outer Space, and I did.
Watch that link. Tremor is not good. Trimors will not scare you. Now you like monster movies, Trimmors will not scare you. It's not a scary movie. It's an entertaining movie.
Okay, Okay, I will rewatch Tremors. But also, this is my new theory, is that it's a continuation of that.
Yeah, I think. I think in the realm of scary, Tremor's ranks below Gremlins. So if you can watch, if you can watch Gremlins and get through that, okay, you're fine for Tremors.
I think I'm less worried about being killed by Gremlins than by sandworms.
Though you don't need to be worried. Listen, we're not living in Frank Herbert's world. We're fine, We're not going to be devoured by sandworms.
The other interesting about Bondsman is I could not get my husband to watch Supernatural, like he saw enough of it because I watched it when he was around, but he never sat down to watch it with me. But he is interested in watching this new.
One, so yeah. Well, and a lot of that I think also falls on the shoulders of Kevin Bacon, who's just an amazingly charismatic actor. So uh yeah, I think this looks like it could be really fun to watch, so it's definitely one of those that I'm interested in checking out. I certainly feel like I could watch an episode of The Bondsman and not be left with the question of why did I just watch that, as opposed to say Reacher season three.
Yeah. Also shout out to Beth Grant who is in this, who's also an incredibly funny actress, so it's ay a good cast.
Next up, we got a trailer for what looks to be like a low budget kind of thinker sci fi film called The Silent Planet. The basic high concept premise is that criminals who have been judged guilty sometimes are sent to distant planets where they are to serve out their sentence in isolation and also do like manual labor, So think about things like old chain gang kind of stuff, except it's them solo and they're supposed to be completely isolated from anyone else. But in the Silent Planet trailer, we see two convicted felons who encounter one another and then the story progresses from there.
Yeah, they both think that they're innocent. One of them is maybe crazy. I will it looks good. The trailer calls it like hearkening back to old sci fi, old classic sci fi, which it definitely has that vibe of, like they went to some desert and ran up and downhills for a while.
Well, I think it's more about like it's it's more about ideas than it is about technology.
Yeah, it does like it looks interesting to me. It looks like an interesting story, I will admit though, because I actually saw this is like the first I saw a teaser for this, I think one of the weeks we weren't filming, so we didn't get to talk about it. When I first saw the teaser, I thought it was for the CS Lewis film because C. S. Lewis has a sci fi trilogy that Hideous Strength, Perlandria and Out of the Silent Planet. But I was also confused on why it would be the third one first, because I always wanted to be Eve in Peralandria, one of my dream roles if they ever well.
I mean, the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe isn't logically the first of the Narnia books, and yet that's the one everyone always.
Adapts, which is very true, but it's not. It's a different story. So I still had my chance at being in a C. S.
Lewis movie, but you don't have a chance of being in Miss Austin because that's already been filmed.
Yeah I missed Austin.
Yeah, you totally did Miss Austin. We talked about this previously. We had an earlier trailer married We had an earlier trailer for this that we chatted about briefly, and in fact, I even thought about removing this one from our lineup, but then I was like, nah, this is actually a much more comprehensive trailer than what we got before. What we got before was more of a teaser, but this is about Jane, Austen's sister traveling to Jane's home in order to find and retrieve letters that were sent to her and that she had written so that no one else gets hold of them, and also to allow herself to reconnect with the sister she has now lost, because it's after Jane's passing, and it looks like a really well done period piece. Looks like it's one that's very reverent toward Jane Austen's work and her relationships with her family. So if you are a literature geek like I am, this I imagine will appeal to that part of your personality.
Yeah, they make it seem and this would make sense that a lot of Jane Austen's stories were kind of based off of her real life family life, at least in this.
Project they do.
But it looks, it looks delightful, it looks heartwarming. The person that they've cast as Jane Austen is just so effervescent, Like I she makes me want to watch her, which I'm excited about. Similarly, it's not on our lists, but there's also a trailer that dropped this week called Jane Austen Wrecked My Life about a relative of Jane Austen, like down the Line more Modern Day. Yeah, so very funny.
That should be a double feature.
Then well I might make it one.
Yeah, that would be that would be an interesting thing to compare one, compare and contrast the two films.
Yeah.
Also, you'll be shocked to hear, dear listener, that we have another trailer for a woman in the yard to talk about, and even more shocked to know that I wasn't the one who put this on our list.
Yeah, and I know that Jonathan just said we were going to take out trailers that we've already talked about. This one gives us a whole lot more information.
Yeah, before we were just getting like, there's a family, African American family that has a mysterio woman draped in black lacy cloth sitting in the yard, and that she's clearly some sort of ghostly presence. But that was all we got from the teaser. We got a lot more in this trailer.
Yeah. Yeah, And I will say that I added this because I knew Jonathan was interested in this film. I actually didn't watch the trailer until today, but it is a great trailer. You're right, Jonathan. He had mentioned that it was really good the entire beginning, like thirty seconds of it, which seems short, but it's really a good long time sets up the lovingness and everyday life of the family involved, and it's beautiful.
It also establishes that they have recently suffered a loss in their family. The father has recently passed away, presumably from a car accident, and that sets up the fact that you know, you have this family now that's trying to heal itself and support one another. And then it introduces the mysterious and supernatural threat of this draped figure in the yard. It also sets up that this ghostly presence has a particular ability that I thought was pretty darn cool.
Yeah, she can control shadows, which is it seems like maybe her main ability is so like at one point in the trailer, the family is closing windows because if there's not light coming through, she can't use the shadows to get them. I also which it also means it's much more of like a suspenseful movie than a super At least a trailer is more suspenseful than super gory.
There's like a little bit of blood.
Yeah, But it also is interesting to me because in this trailer, the woman in the yard says that she has been called and she can't. She is there to help. She has answered a call for help, and she can't leave until she's done it. And it definitely seems but it also makes it feel like there's some sort of like twist to it.
Yeah. Also, I love that they establish a like call phrase for the ghost. Today's the day very creepy and yeah and menacing without it being you know, like just overt. And as you say, there could be an interesting twist here, although the stuff we see in the trailer does certainly look like she has harmful intent. I'm I'm very excited about this. I love a good ghost story. I love films that are I don't believe in ghosts, but I love ghost stories. And I love a good ghost story movie where you know, tension and atmosphere end up playing an enormous part in getting the story across. This looks like it's doing that, and I'm excited about it.
Yeah. I'm now all of a sudden creeped out because when you are editing the episode the other week, there is somebody that whispered and I swear it's.
Not me.
In the background.
I think I think it was you, And the more we listened, I think it was you muttering about like something like come on. Not so we thought that there was a voice that said Karma and it did not sound like Ariel, but it was. It was spoken while I was talking, so it wasn't me and and like I isolated it and it just sounded like Karmel. But I think it was you saying come on, because it was when the leaf blower was going on outside.
Okay, okay, So hopefully there aren't ghosts because I would be super creeped out sitting in this room right now.
They are. They're just on aeriel side because it was on her track, not mine.
Yeah, it is. It is interesting to me. I am interested in this. I'll probably have to do like a does the Dog Die or Common Sense Media or something like that beforehand to prepare myself for what I will be watching.
Although I did survive Hard.
Eyes, you know, which was fun and goofy, but which is now streaming, Jonathan, if you wanted.
To watch, Oh, I'll definitely have to check that out, thank you.
Yeah, but it is like the first horror movie that I can at least recall that has made me genuinely invested in the family involved in the trailer, I'm rooting for.
A big thing. Yeah, yeah, which is weird also because we've seen no shortage of trailers that have kind of a similar concept behind them, Like you know, I'm thinking of like, what was it Arcadia with Nick Cage or whatever, or the Tethered one, whatever that one was, but you know, don't let go. Yeah, it is all those movies that were variations on a quiet place. It's really what they were. But this one, I think I agree with you. It felt more genuine and relatable to me.
Yeah, they really took the time to build the relationship first, which is great.
It's great.
Unlike the next trailer.
I was about to say, we got to see so many deep relationships in our next trailer. So our next one is for a Western called gun Slingers. That the most notable thing I would say, I think the thing that ninety nine percent of people who see this trailer or walk away from is that Nick Cage is being like ultimate Nick Cage at his Nick cagiest in this trailer where he's playing it looks like a preacher. He's got smoked glasses that have the lenses are like in the shape of across the darkened part is in the shape of a cross over each eye. It's kind of playing like a Western preacher or maybe like a Ormer Gunslinger now Western preacher character, because supposedly the story is taking place in a town in the Old West where every single person in the town is wanted.
I mean, I'm sure like it's like in prior to the Caribbean, the Island of Tortuga, where it was kind of like the Yeah I.
Was supposed to be like, yeah, was it Tortuga? I thought, yeah, I guess it was. It wasn't Port Royal. I don't know, it's been so long, it's been too like that was the was that the first It was the first film, wasn't it. I just I can't keep them straight in I can't tell you.
I can't tell you.
But yeah, this movie's trying so hard to be like stylized and cool that before we recorded, like earlier this week, when when we were first chatting about the stuff that was on our lineup, I compared it to Boondock Saints, a movie that I think of as pure style over substance, Like that's one of those movies. Yeah, that's one of those movies where if someone is telling me that that's one of their favorite movies. My reaction is, I want to get out of this conversation as soon as I possibly can, because this is you and I are just not compatible. I'm not saying that someone who loves Boondock Saints is wrong. I'm saying that I do not see the world the same way they do, and so I need to get away. This feels like like, oh, let's do something as stylized as Boondock Saints, but not make it look as good.
Yeah. Yeah, And it's interesting because got other It's got Nicholas Cage, Heather Graham, Stephendorf, lots of actors who have done lots of good stuff. Everybody feels like they're in one movie, except for Nick Cage, who just feels like he's in a different movie.
Also, the trailer doesn't do us any favors because rather than have a scene play out, even just a short scene where characters are sharing you know, sequential lines of dialogue, all we're getting are excerpts of people saying the quote unquote cool line. So like like there's no scene where we're getting like like two people talking about what's happening or why things are important. Instead, it's like the super cool ironic line you say, after you just gunned down somebody, or you're threatening to gun down somebody, and that's it. Like there's no like, it's all cliche, and I just it did not do anything for me. Maybe that's not the fault of the movie. Maybe that's just the fault of the company that cut the trailer, but it does not give me confidence for the film.
Yeah, maybe I really did it because it's another example of Nick Cage being bonkers. I mean, Western is kind of one of those geeky things. A lot of times will include Western, but it's just Nick Cage really committing to a role and mean not understanding why or what he's committing to in it.
Yeah, it does make me wish that Nick Cage had been in Sam Raimi's film The Quick and the Dead. That would have been fun. Also, rest in peace Gene Hackman, because he was in The Quick and the Dead and was an amazing bad guy in that movie. That. By the way, if you haven't seen The Quick and the Dead, that is a bonker's Western.
I don't think I have.
Oh my gosh, very young Leonardo DiCaprio is in that. Yeah, it's The Quick in the I don't know that they can call it a good movie, but it is entertaining.
Gotcha, Well, can I say that I still like westerns if I haven't seen it?
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, No, No, The Quick in the Dead is such a weird and Bonker's Western, Like, you could go your whole life watching other types of Westerns never seeing The Quick and the Dead. It's no, that's not going to take the shine off of you. Now, if you had said and you said, yeah, I've never seen Unforgiven, and I'd be like, oh, well you should that.
Yeah, I mean I've seen a bunch of really.
Old western Well, Unforgiven is probably the best modern Western I have seen, also having Gene Hackman as the villain rest in Peace, Gene Hackman brilliant and Unforgiven great movie. But anyway, Gun Slingers does not look like it's gonna be anywhere in the same universe as Unforgiven. But maybe that's just a bad trailer. Will I will withhold judgment, but maybe don't have confidence.
Yeah, well maybe see, maybe it'll surprise us like Barbie, I doubt it. The next thing we got was a trailer that Jonathan found for a new HBO series called The Parenting.
It's a horror comedy. I included it here because I see what they're doing, but it's not working for me, probably because the comedy, I feel is just too brash and too rude, like I like, I like movies that have blue humor in them if it's done well. And again, this may be the fault of the trailer, but I watched this and I'm like, man, none of this is none of these jokes are landing for me, Like part of it is reliance on shock humor, and it's hard to be shocking considering all the types of entertainment we've had over the years, right, Like, it's hard to do something now that's going to shock you as much as stuff that was like pop culture five years ago, because we've really kind of pushed the limit, especially with show things like on HBO.
So maybe maybe at that point you find something other than shocking to do, like.
Good right now? Yeah, right right? And of Kudro's in this, and I feel awful because I'm like, I didn't like her in Time Bandits, and I don't think i'll like her in this either.
Apparently she is really good in the one where she's married No Good Deed. Apparently she's really good in that one where she's married to Ray Romano and they're trying to sell the house by the same people who did the other movie that had Linda Cardelini or the other shit that had Linda Cardelini in it recently.
You're not going to get any help from me. But I remember, I remember No Good Deed. I remember because that's like the all the different families that are related to this one piece of real estate, and like their their stories are sort of independent and sort of intertwined with each other. From what I understand. I haven't seen it, so I can't say from catching experience, but yeah, the parenting, it's it's kind of like a demonic possession slash haunting type of supernatural horror setup. Uh, and then throw in like, what would happen if you were to combine The Exorcist with something like American Pie but not as not as sex raunchy, you know, as American Pie is, but that's sort of kind of brash sense of humor, and then combine that with the storyline from something like The Exorses and Ghosts. Oh, the series on well, I think of that. I think of the BBC version, but okay.
I never saw the BBC version.
Oh my gosh, it's so good. Uh, the American one's fine. I think the British one's better, although your mileage may vary. I know other people who feel that the British one the characters aren't as relatable, and I can understand that a little bit more distant because it's that British approach to humor. But anyway, yeah, the parenting. I thought this was going to be something to be right up my alley. I love horror, I love comedy, and I love a lot of people who are in it. Ryan Cox is in it, you know, Lisa Coutro is in it.
Norris Edie Falco, Parker Posey.
Yeah, there's some great, great people in it. But yeah, this trailer just did nothing for me.
Same same I actually forwarded onto my husband. I was like, I don't think this is for us, but I'm sharing it with you anyhow. Yeah, it kind of fell flat for me, unfortunately, But maybe this will If stuff with this kind of shock humor falls flat, maybe we'll get some more creative stuff coming out of it.
I mean we did. I think we there's no shortage of really creative work out there too, like some of it. I think, you know, we've even seen examples of I mean, our flag means Death leaps to mind, like that was a series that I couldn't have imagined coming out. Even Ghosts, the American version of Ghosts, I wouldn't have pecked, because like the BBC one, I felt was fun, but it was the premise is easily translatable. The execution of the BBC one is something where I'm like, oh, this wouldn't work as an American show, But then the American version takes a slightly different tone than the British one does, so it works ultimately because they made some good decisions on where to deviate. But yeah, I think we go ahead, No, you go ahead. I was just gonna say, I don't think there's any shortage of non raunchy humor out there, Like even the shows like Mythic Quest, which have elements of that in it, have plenty of other stuff in there too.
I get like it's a it's a this happens all throughout history, you know, Humor changes and boundaries change. But sometimes I'm like, we don't need to push d envelope.
Further, there needs there needs to be an envelope there in order to push against. If there's not an envelope, then what are you doing?
Yeah? Do we ever get a US version of Space?
No? Thank goodness, Space, Space, I think needs to just exist as it is as a perfect two season show.
I thought you were saying thank goodness because you've soured to it.
Oh no, I still love Space. I actually just got the Blu ray set, like literally, my partner gave that to me as a Valentine's Day gift, And yeah, I love That's a show that specifically appeals to my generation. Though that's a very gen X show, not that other generations can't enjoy it, but gen xers, particularly gen X geeks, like that show is like it's perfect.
It is aged, not spaced, but Coupling has aged about as well as Friends has to me. But I enjoy it infinitely more.
Yeah, that's fair. We also to end out our segment. I really thought this was going to be a shorter episode, but I think that every week and I'm always proven wrong.
Well, I'm sorry, I was being more of a this week.
So that's good. Though, that's good. I like you being more verbose and not having it just be the Jonathan Show where I take over and don't let you talk. I don't. Every time I edit this, I feel really bad because I'm like, oh, I didn't let.
I Well, the problem is, like I like listening to you, and I'm also bad at telling when to interject things, and so wait till you're done, and sometimes you're like, come on, coming.
Off, except that you've figured out that I've got this circular breathing thing where I don't even need to inhale or keep talking. But yeah, our final trailer, we almost didn't include this, but we we put it in at the last second.
The trailer came out like two hours ago, three hours ago.
Now, Yeah, so we got an actual trailer for the series The Studio. It's Seth Rogan.
Is that name, Seth Rogan. Catherine O'Hara is in it.
Catherine Hahn is in it as well. Yeah, this is the series where Seth Rogan plays a character who becomes the head of a studio and so he's really balancing out how do you how are you playing the part of a producer? What's your actual role as far as getting films made? And he's running into the challenge of that art versus commerce thing which I was talking about before. And that was interesting to me because everything I've seen leading up to this, all the promotional material I've seen for the studio.
Like the as Apocalypse or whatever it was.
Yeah, it suggested to me that this was just going to be a satirical comedy about the industry, about the film industry, and that was all there was to it, which is fine, Like that would have been fine, But the trailer surprised me because it introduced a lot of heart, which I was not expecting.
Yeah. Yeah, And I think Seth Rogen's such a great person to play the lead character because he is someone who is known for doing a lot of a lot of like comedy and a lot of stoner comedy and a lot of blue comedy, but he can do other stuff, and you know, I think probably comes from a very real place for a lot of the actors in this we were talking about earlier.
Yeah, So, like he actually in the trailer talks about wanting to to satisfy both motivations, like his own personal motivation to help a true work of art film get made, like for that to be the product of his work while also being a huge box office success, and people in the industry are essentially telling him that's impossible. You can do one or you can do the other. You can either do something that's going to be wildly successful and make a billion dollars at the box office, but it's going to be crap, or it's going to be like popcorn and there's no real substance to it. Or you can really make an artistic piece, but no one's gonna bother to go see it, and it's laying bare this juxtaposition that a lot of the industry seems to work on. That being said, we all know there are films that have managed to be both ye where they've managed to be a success as well as have something artistic to say. It just feels like that's the exception, not the rule.
Yeah. Yeah, and sorry, it's the doll Apocalypse.
Oh yes, yeah, the Apocalypse the pooping zombies.
Which you told me not even to watch. And if the show were just that, I would be out. But this new trailer, I'm going to watch this when it comes out on March twenty six. Yeah, I'm very excited about it. Also, Brian Cranston's in it.
Yeah, the list of people, Like I imagine the guest star list on this is going to be like just really star studded, because again they're going to be poking. I think everyone in the industry likes referencing the industry occasionally. Like I've talked about this before. If you watch award seasons, if there's a film that has a fairly high profile that's about the film industry, it always does well during award seasons. Same thing with like theater too, right, how many shows can you think of are about show business? So many that it's I guess it's right what you know, But same sort of thing here, but again like also making fun of the whole studio system and the role of producers and how cynical everything gets, Like I would be shocked if there's not like an ongoing thing about figuring out how to make a movie play better in China, for example, because that's such a huge thing in Hollywood, right, is not just making a movie that's going to do well domestically, but because China represents such a potentially huge market, how do you make something that's going to do really well over there, even if it means you're making decisions that hurt the movie domestically.
If it's the film and TV version of Mythic Quest, it should be pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I'm not going. You were right about the guest list. I did pop into the IMDb while you were talking, and well, I was also listening. But the guest list is going to be insane like the guest star list.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one. This will definitely be a series that I will check out, especially now that I know there's heart to it. Like I was already interested because it looked funny and there's some incredibly funny people attached to it, but knowing that there is at least this core of like idealism and hope that I definitely want to watch it, even if ultimately it just is like watch that hope as it slowly reins the.
Way I think. I think the thing that we've learned from this episode of LENC is that the way to get Jonathan and I are interested in a show is to show the humanity in it.
Yeah, it turns out that a little humanity goes a long way. Maybe it maybe it means that we're both craving things that have more of humanity on display, like that that that softer side, that sweeter side of humanity. Don't know why that would be. Not gonna lay any commentary here. You can all read between the lines.
I hope. I hope more people do, though, because I'd like to get back to.
Some of that.
We we we were in a real stretch of of super dark and grim for a while.
Oh yeah, kind of are yeah, Like like I I appreciate the artistry that went into Walking Dead, but I could not stay with that because it was just so bleak and hopeless. Same with Game of Thrones, Like it's just I can't, y'all. I need more than just abject misery and a story where the most decent people are the ones who suffer the most. I can't do it anymore.
Yeah. Yeah, Well, we also can't do this episode anymore because we're out of stories. I mean, we probably could, but we probably shouldn't.
Yeah, we got stuff we gotta do, we do h.
And also I know you have to edit this, and I'm so sorry.
That's all right?
So uh, I guess do I even ask if people want to get in touch with you, do you want to give something? Or do I just tell them to go through social media? And I'll pass it along.
I mean, obviously, there are ways to get in touch with me. Yes, I have no Facebook, Yes I have no Instagram. Yes I'm not on Twitter. Yes I'm recording this on an old tape deck where I've hit record and I'm just holding it up to a speaker. These all of these things are true, But there are still ways to get in touch. For me, the best way is to write in long hand a very thoughtful letter. Address it to me care of large nerd on collider. Be ornate in your handwriting. If you can do calligraphy, that is appreciated, not required, but it will mean that I'll answer it more quickly than if you just scribble something down. You're going to want to seal that letter with a wax seal using an emblem representative of your family line, maternal or paternal. I'm not picky, but it does need to actually reflect your family line in some truly meaningful way, So not just an initial of a last name or something. It needs to truly represent who you are as a person. If you put both on there, maternal and paternal, that's going to get you to the front of the line. Once you have done all of that. I'm going to need you to dip this letter in paraffin wax, and once that's done, you will need to set fire to the letter and allow it to burn completely down by itself. Don't extinguish it. If it extinguishes on its own prematurely, that's fine, but otherwise you just have to let it completely burn down. Then collect all the pieces of the letter, whether there's like solid pieces or it's just ash, and put that all into a glass bottle. Now, it can't just be any glass bottle. It has to be cobalt glass, so it as to be that dark blue glass. Put a cork stopper on it. You're going to need to go out into the closest wooded area near you with a piece of twine and that bottle. You're going to find a tree that just stands out from all the other trees. You know, maybe it just looks a little strange. Maybe it's a species of tree that's unlike all the ones around it. You'll know it when you see it. On the lowest brand. I'm going to need you to tie that piece of string around the neck of the bottle and hang it from that limb. And then you're going to sit down at the tree. You're going to say, answer me, answer me, answer me, just like that three times you're going to leave. There will be a windy night that night that will blow against that bottle. When you come back the next day, the bottle will be open, the cork will be gone, the ashes emptied from the bottle, and next to you will be me, and I will say, there's a lot of work. What's your question?
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