Large Nerdron ColliderIn this episode of LNC, a live actor will speak back to Ariel and Jonathan on the podcast. Or maybe that won't happen. It will depend on our budget. But we will talk about a Stranger Thing play in London, a long YouTube video about the failed Star Wars Hotel at Disney World, and much more.
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Nur John Collider the podcast. It's all about the geeky things happening in the world around us and how very excited we are about them. I'm Ariel Casten, and with me, as always is the splendiferous Jonathan Strickland.
With this, mate, I mean, I am.
We have our video on today. Yeah, you're going to do something cool.
When have I ever done anything cool?
Like every Day of your Wife?
Oh, you're too kind? No, no, no, nothing cool. We were just talking before we hit record about the fact that we're going into Memorial Day weekend and that I had foolishly booked a whole bunch of vacation travel with my family, and that it means I will probably have to wait a while before I can see Furiosa, which I am very anxious to actually go see.
Yeah, I want to see that. I've got like a list of movies that have been like I want to see this in the theater, and I've seen very few of them. So American Fiction and then The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare I wanted to see in the theater, and I think it's still playing at some AMC's, but we are not getting paid to say that.
But yeah, but.
I haven't seen it yet. It's not in it like I thought it would stick around longer, but it's not in a lot of theater. Theaters turn over quickly right now, and Fall Guy I still want to see. I think there's one other one and now Furiosa.
So it was just last night when someone was telling me that I really needed to see Fall Guide. They like, have you seen Fall Guide? And I said, no, Like, it just wasn't high on my list. It looks fun, no shade against it, but like, there wasn't something about that that was drawing me to it more than like, I'm sure it's a very entertaining film and maybe I would really love it. Everyone talks about how it's a love letter to stunt coordinators and stunt performers, which is awesome because they certainly deserve adulation and recognition. But yeah, I just I don't know. I thought the trailers looked fine, but nothing about that film grab me. To be fair, though, the action genre is the hardest one to get me excited about it. If it's just like an action film, if it's like sci fi action like Furiosa, I'm more often on board. But I've already seen the greatest action film that was ever made, so everything else is like die Hard. Diehard is the greatest action film that was ever made, not a Christmas movie. We've had this discussion, We had this, we did a whole episode about it. It has, it has you know what, I'm not going to make the joke because I'm making the joke in my third seconds or less cool, So I'm going to save it till that.
I will say The fall Guy is based off of like the old eighties TV series.
Yeah, I think it came out, maybe it even started in the late seventies. I remember that show being on when I was a kid, but I don't think I ever if I ever watched an episode, I have no memory of it.
Yeah, I mean same here. But I do like stunt work, you know, I wanted to do stunt work for a while. I still kind of do, like I want to stay you know, maybe I won't be able to do high falls or as many like roles or whatever, but I still like stunt typework, you know, fighting and things like that. But it didn't really grab me until the trailers. Like the concept didn't grab me, but the trailers, the chemistry between Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt, it just seems so fun and it reminds me of the same sort of like vibe I got from Day After Tomorrow.
So yeah, I was really amused. I've been on a kind of furio Press junket devouring a course recently because I mean, obviously, whenever a film comes out, the stars are sent to go through the dog and pony show of appearing on all the different outlets and answering the same like twelve questions over and over again. And one thing that I thought was interesting, which I did get to hear this story multiple times, is that Anya Taylor Joy did not know how to drive, nor did she have a license when she took on the job of Furiosa. And she said the very first thing she learned to do as a driver was a like a drift move where you're you're gunning the accelerator, you hit the emergency handbrake and you turn the wheel as hard as he can and do a one to eighty. And I'm like, wow, that's a For me, it was starting the car and putting it into reverse.
Yeah, that's that's also a mean thing to do to somebody on like the first time behind a wheel is just let them pull out front ways.
She still doesn't have her license, or at least she didn't when she was doing the press junket, like, she still has not actually taken her driving test, but it's funny to know that she was, you know, helming and a film that heavily involves car stunts in particular. But yeah, it's also I watched the lad Bible TV interview between her and Chris Hemsworth's the one where they are asking questions of the two people and they have to choose whether they agree or disagree with the statement they have like a glass of water and the table is divided up between strongly disagree on one side and strongly agree on the opposite side, and you put the glass wherever you feel. And I could not pay attention to the questions because they were in their wide shot. I was just marveling at how tall Anya Taylor joyce stiletto heels were. They were like insane.
Yeah, I wore really tall heels for the first time in years at a family wedding last week?
Was it last week? God? So you were approximately eight feet tall.
I was approximately eight feet tall, which you know, I didn't want to outshine the bride. I certainly didn't. The bride was stunning, amazingly stunning, my cousin in law. But but like my feet were tore up, like the pandemic has made my feet a whimp. So I guess maybe she's lucky to have stayed in the film industry where she has to wear shoes regularly, because.
Yeah, I couldn't imagine walking around in those They just they looked they looked like they were a punishment to me.
Now, I mean there is a chance that she wore like flats or sneakers to the studio and put on heels when she got there.
Possible, Yeah, entirely. I mean it's hard for me to imagine Anya Taylor Joy as being at all casual, only because she has become so known for being very very much on like the cutting edge of fashion, Like that's kind of been her brand. Like you ever see her anything, She's always wearing something very fashionable and unusual, and I'm sure that's not her twenty four to seven, but she has cultivated that image to the point where it's hard for me to imagine her and anything like dressed down.
Yeah, yeah, I get that fun times. Yeah, I hope to see it too. Well, if you don't get to see it and I don't get to see it because my husband's iffy on it, then maybe we can go see it together.
That would be awesome. I would totally go see the movie with you. Yeah, Well, touch base when I get back in town. So typically before we get started on thirty seconds or less, we about what we have watched. But Ariel, you've been traveling a lot and doing lots of extracurricular activities, so I imagine you've had very little time to devote to watching geeky stuff.
Yeah. When I got home last night from my extracurricular stuff last night two nights ago, I watched the latest Smarty Pants on dropout. And then other than that, I did watch the first half of Bridgerton, which dropped. And I will say it's not my favorite, Like I expected it to be my favorite season and it's not quite hitting me as amazing as I wanted it to.
That's a bummer. Are you still enjoying it at least?
I am. I am still enjoying it. And some of the costumes are amazing and some of the costumes, I'm like, what are they doing? Like some of the costumes are obviously like avant garde or you know, like the kind of fashion that you don't off of the runway.
Right right, you would never see this anywhere other than like the met Gala or something.
Yeah, And some of the dresses lean more that way than just one or two then you know period piece, which is fine because it's a fantastical period piece, right, you know, they play with that and that's that's part of the fun. And some of the dresses, I'm just like, why did you make that choice? I don't like it, but you know, I can't say i'd do better because I didn't do the fashion for the show. Some of the dresses that though I would like, I want in my warrobe. And it is fun. It's fun.
It's just not it doesn't quite meet your expectations.
Yeah, And I think part of the problem is the Queen Charlotte series, which was a spin off that I didn't expect to like as much. I absolutely loved because it dealt with the mental illness of King George and their relationship in such like a kind way that it was just really good, really really good.
I want to say friend of the show, shay Lee is that's where her entry point has been for the whole series, which is interesting.
Yeah, I mean you can watch it before watching any of Bridgerton. And I do think it is a stronger piece of work than Bridgerton. One of my actor friends was saying that I think Shonda Rhymes actually wrote Queen Charlotte. But it's just it's a really beautiful piece of acting and work. And yeah, but also like part of the problem is the first half of Bridgerton is only of this season of Bridgerton is only four episodes.
So right, well, I'll pass along your note to one of my coworkers, who is the executive producer on the Shonda Rhyme's slate of podcasts. Yeah, I have never had any contact with anyone from that side, so I'm only like adjacent to greatness. So well, don't don't.
Don't wrap me out.
I love look well, no, I mean I'm in about the compliments of the Charlotte series.
Okay, yes, yes, do that, because like I was about to say, you know, just just because something doesn't hate me in a favorable way doesn't mean it's not a good show. Well, and that would want to be a part of it in the future.
I would never tell an artist like, hey, your art is almost as good as I hoped it would be. I would never do that. That's like the biggest jerk base move in the world. So so I watched one thing that's very, very geeky, and I was very pleased to see this pop up on YouTube because Jenny Nicholson, she's a video essayist's.
I did watch this vaguely. I didn't think the.
Star Wars Hotel video, Yeah, but I watched.
I watched it on like one point seventy five speed while I was working.
Okay, so you you got through it magnificantly faster or the bit that you watched, you got through faster than I did because I watched it on normal speed. And this is a more than four hour long video. So Jenny Nicholson does these video essays, some of which are on the super long side. Most of them tend to be like her older stuff is all like around half an hour, but she did a few pieces that were longer than that, Like she did a really good one on the Evermore Park that was around three hours. I think, Well, this was about favor well it was more like a it was not favorable. I don't think you can say. I think it was more like it was more like, here's what was promised and here's what ended up happening, which is very much the way the Star Wars Hotel one is, which is about the Galactic Star Cruiser experience, which was built at Disney World as like a two day, two night experience, like it was a cruise. You're not actually on a boat, you're inside a building. It's made to look like a star cruiser. But it was priced like a very very expensive cruise, like even more expensive than a Disney cruise, and Disney cruises are expensive. And so it's Ginny Nicholson's experience. Like first she gives like a full rundown of the history of it, the development of it. She talks about her experience. She talks about like, you know, she and her sister paid around six thousand dollars to stay there.
I think she says, two dollars per minute per person.
Yeah, and a lot of unfortunate things happened on her specific visit that some of which were you could argue Disney's fault, some of which had nothing to do like for example, the day when they got to go to Batu. It was one of those days in Florida where there's just a downpour, and obviously Disney has no control over that, but it does. It does end. If they did, that would be weird, but it has a huge impact obviously on the quality of your visit. But like they were seated at a table for dining that was that had like a column or a stanchion in between them and their the sort of staging area where all the story stuff unfolded, which meant they couldn't see anything. And so her takedown, it's not even a takedown. Her criticisms largely are about how for the price you were paying, there seemed to be a lot of gaps as far as the quality of experience you could have. And it's a fascinating video. It is kind of heartbreaking, especially if you really like Disney, because it seems to be indicative of some long standing issues that that Disney fans have been noticing in the parks in general. You know, everything from ticket prices continuing to go up to turning the fast pass system into a paywalled system with very popular rides behind a second paywall like it's it's kind of an indictment against Disney's current business practices as far as the parks go. But I think it's incredibly well done.
Yeah, what I saw of it, I thought so too. I was surprised when she said that, like, there were up charges she could have got. She could have gotten bigger rooms or paid more money, or there were a bunch of like the captain's table for dinner and all this other stuff that she wasn't told about. And I understand, when you've got something that expensive and exclusive, you may not fully disclose all your prices up front, but I would think that the upsell would be big on it.
Well, that's the thing that you know. One of her big criticisms is that the marketing was just I think part of the problem was that Disney did such a terrible job with marketing early on, like to the point where they were getting ridiculed for it. They made them gun shy. And part of them being gunshy is that they announced the prices before they really gave many details on what the experience was like. And as Jenny says, like, that's kind of the opposite way you would think you would do it. You would think you would build up what all the experiences are. First, get people excited, then they're a little more receptive when you hit them with the bombshell that this is going to set you back at least five thousand dollars, and that's if you're getting the cheapest room. So you know, it's it was definitely crazy that Disney would have all these add ons and then not appropriately alert people. Apparently they sent emails out, but a lot of people didn't get them, including Jenny, so that was a big part of the problem. And she said, like there were certain ones. It's not that she was eager to spend more money, but there were certain things that she would have spent more money on if she had known about it, because it would have meant she would have had a better experience, like if she had gotten the captain's table, for example, she would have been able to see what was going on during dinner.
Yeah, it is interesting though, because I did have friends go. We've well, we've had some like mutual acquaintances go, mutual friends go, but I had some of my LARP friends go. A couple of the people who were like the owners of the LARP company that I had been a part of for so very long, went and loved it so much that they were planning to go back and bring their kids and like had the absolute best time. And these are people who have spent years curating art and performances and LARPs. And I say that because they also helped produce films and dance shows and music and like, so people who are in that world and they really loved it. So it is. It is interesting. At first I thought maybe Jenny didn't have like the right mindset, but it certainly seems through the parts of her documentary that I watched that she did.
Yeah. Well, and she's also a form Disney cast member.
Oh I didn't know that.
Yeah, she worked at Disneyland and she I mean she, let's be fair, she has an axe to grind with Star Wars because she loves Star Wars and then she didn't like the sequels. But also, this is not talking out of school. There's a whole video about this. The place she worked in Disneyland was a place that got cleared to make way for the Star Wars Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland, So like the whole area where she used to work doesn't exist anymore. So like I am playfully saying that she has a grudge against Disney. It's not really true, but she did say that after she worked there, she was moved into essentially customer satisfaction and like she's like, yeah, then my job was just having to sit there while people came up and yelled at me about their vacation.
But that's not very magical at all.
But before that she was in there was a petting zoo that was at Disneyland, and she worked the petting zoo, so she really loved that. And then that's because it had such low traffic. That's where they said, well, this makes sense to get rid of this and make way for the Star Wars attraction. Yeah, so anyway, that's a If you haven't ever seen any of Jenny Nicholson's stuff, you can check it out. She has a very quirky kind of delivery style, especially in her older videos, because she gets a little like she gets a little breathy, like she's talking about this thing and she doesn't really know why it's like that, Like that's kind of her delivery and some of her earlier stuff. I think it's quirky. Some people might find it irritating. I don't know, gotcha. I like her work. She does really she does a really good job at synthesizing information and then communicating it. So I really respect that.
Yeah, in a very fun way. At first, I thought I confused her with Jinny D, who is also kind of quirky and also a delight to watch, but not the same person.
Before we moved to thirty seconds or less. Have you seen her video about the evangelical church in Canada that does Easter plays but they end up appropriating copyrighted characters and stories.
But I have seen I have seen things about that church on like TikTok and social media and things like that.
She's got another like it's like a super because she goes through all the ones she had access to, and that video is I have to watch it in chunks, not because it's so long, but because it sets off my cringe alert so much that I have to like pace myself.
Yeah, I don't think the execution of those are very good, And more so, I don't think they got the licensing rights to use the like.
Hamilton, not at all. Well, the ones thing and that upsets me. Hamilton, I didn't see, but she did like like the ones they the ones they were talking about were things like they had one where it was Back to the Future, they had one that was the Avengers, they had one and.
One that was Rocky Horror Picture Show meets. I think Little Shop of Horrors or something like.
That wasn't in her video, but that sounds amazing.
I will be sending you some links, my friend. Maybe it's a different organization that does it, but similar.
It could be this one. This one is, like I said, it's an evangelical church in Canada where uh, the biggest, the biggest cringey thing that they do is that it's a very white church and occasionally they have people playing non white characters and it comes down to extreme stereotypes.
Yeah, that's not good. That's not good.
No, not good, not a good thing.
Yeah, but I have had my fair share of laughs at a couple of places that do to have done stuff like that. Maybe it's all the same place. I don't know. I'll have to look that up and I will be sending you some links later.
Sounds good. I look forward to seeing bits of the fact that it could be two very different churches also delights me. All right, Well, now that we've got that very long tangent out of the way. I suppose we should move on to thirty seconds or less because we actually have quite a bit to talk about.
Yeah, and the first is the will they won't they? Of Margot Roby's Pirates of the Caribbean movie is on the will day side This week, apparently, Jerry Bruckheimer said that Disney would like to make both the one that she is working on with Christina Hodson of Birds of Prey, as well as the one that Jeff Nathanson of A Young Woman in the Sea is working on or is set to work on, which is great news. I don't know if we need that many Pirate of the Caribbean world movies, if it's going to be a fractured EU like DC is now like other worlds Pirates. But we'll see, kay, or we will.
Or we won't. Yeah, Well, stay tuned, we'll find out when you do. If you watched one The Vision, you know a central part of that show is the mystery of how vision is there in the first place. By the end of the series, we have a new vision. He's stark, white and freshly filled with visions old memories before he flies off. Now we know that in twenty twenty six, we're getting a Disney Plus series featuring Vision, and Paul Bettany will be back to play him. Terry Matalis, who helped star Trek Mcard, will be the showrunner.
Y'all can't see that. I'm I'm gluten at that because I love Paul Bettany's vision. Jonathan needs to hurry up and finish Sandman because season two is on its way, and we just got a drop of the new characters they're introducing into season two, which, to be fair, a couple of the characters they already well, they show us all the characters they've already introduced, and then they introduce the character of Delirium, Destiny and the Prodigal which close your ears for ten seconds if you don't know and you don't want to know, is destruction. And yeah, it looks they look pretty good. When I saw the picture of the first glimpse of Delirium, I was like, that reminds me of my friend because she dressed up like Delirium for Halloween a couple of years ago.
Wow. Well, Darren Limkey, who wrote the film adaptation of Goosebumps, will be writing a film inspired by the legendary exclusive club at Disney called Club thirty three. The wait list to join that club is long and limited, and it is mad expensive, like it's thirty three thousand dollars up front and fifteen thousand dollars a year for Club thirty three at Disney World. So my guess is that this is going to be a movie that really shows how the rich lead an exclusionary existence compared to the rest of us, and we should eat them. But the Hollywood reporter says it's going to be more like Clue. Wow.
No, that is interesting.
I I have complicated feelings about Club thirty three.
Maybe we'll move it into the actual conversation next week if you're still feeling those feelings. Horror Inc. Who are the original owners of Friday the thirteenth. I'm already scared because my voice cracked, y'all Horror thirteen or Horror Inc. Lord help me. I have not had enough sleep. We've already hit thirty seconds. So they're doing a bunch of more jacent stuff, including games, igmersive experiences, merchandise, and a prequel series called Crystal Lake that's going to be on Peacon.
Yeah. This was so I know We've already hit the thirty seconds, so I'm going to go ahead and do this anyway. This was actually a big deal because this is one of those things where there were disputes with the rights because the pre series. The title was held up in a long time because whether or not they would have the right to call it Crystal Lake was a question, and that was something that had to be settled eventually. Sounds like it has been okay. Yeah. Fathom Events and DC Studios are bringing the long awaited documentary Super slash Man The Christopher Reeves Story the theaters on September twenty first, twenty twenty four, and there will be an encore presentation on September twenty fifth, which was Christopher Reeves's birthday. The documentary details the life of the late Christopher Reeve, who was many things besides what I would call the best cinematic Superman to date in my opinion, because he was also in Noises Off.
Very interesting. Todd McFarlane and Scott Silver have been working on a Spawn movie. That's not really news, but we did get news. They have been writing and rewriting and reworking the script into something that they like, which great if you don't like the script you've made. Work on it some more, but they're hoping to have it done so that they can get a studio partner before Joker fally Ad comes out in October.
Well, here comes that joke I have warned you about earlier. As Stained would say, it's been a while since we've seen old Geralta rivio on the screen. Henry Cavill famously stepped back from The Witcher in twenty twenty two in order to not be Superman. Instead, Netflix named Liam Hemsworth the new Gerralt, and Netflix just gave us the first look of Liam as the Witcher in a very short clip on X in which we get to look at his back for a while as he's walking, and then he stops and then he turns around a little bit. This was less interesting to talk about than to watch, and it wasn't interesting to watch.
Dexter is getting a prequel series, Dexter Original Sin Now they have cast the leads for it. Patrick Gibson will be playing Kid Dexter, Christian Slater will be playing kid Dexter Daddy and that sounds creepy his father, and Molly Brown will be playing Dexter's sister Deborah. When you read the synopsis of Dexter, along with the fact that he's a kid, it's much more creepy even if you knew that from the original series. But if you're a fan, you'll have more content coming soon.
Honestly, I thought they should have gotten the kid who played Sheldon and young Sheldon to play young Dexter.
He's I mean, he's not really a kid anymore.
No, but like Dexter doesn't. I mean, the first time we see Dexter, he's clearly in his late twenties, early thirties something like that, so we still have room there, Okay. In Pet's cemetery, Fred Gwinn said, sometimes dead is better, But Gwen is also Herman Munster and the Munsters, and it seems like Munsters just won't stay dead. Rob Zombie did a poorly received reboot not too long ago. Before that, we got a TV series called Mockingbird Lane that lasted maybe two episodes, and now James Wand has been tapped to bring it back again, this time as thirteen thirteen, which will quote live and breathe within the Universal Monster Verse end quote.
Yay, I mean, I love classic Universal monsters.
Yeah. Maybe just look at how great they've been doing with those in the most recent films.
Yeah, and I thought it was dead and now we're getting a park, So maybe maybe the entire Dark Universe park will just all be monsters.
That would be I mean, I do like the theme song that that theme song rocks.
Yes, yeah, okay, probably shouldn't sing it on the show. Dave the Diver really bizarre but kind of relaxing game is treading into deep waters. They have now released a Godzilla DLC where you get Godzilla and Abira I guess Eberra, the lobster one that you can fight, and they'll fight each other and you can find like weird like tokens that are related to them. If you like the Dave the Diver and you think it needs more kaiju, you can download it until you can download the DLC until November twenty third. If you don't and you just want an innate, creepy fishing game, go check out Dredge.
Yeah, which had a crossover with Dave the Diver, which is great. It's fantastic. Yeah, both of those games are great. By the way, Dave the Diver and Dredge are both fantastic and they did do a crossover and no, I have not played the crossover, but I have played both the games.
Dave, the Diver is just so weird.
It's so many things. Yeah, it's well, it's I think it was made in Korea and it has like a Korean sense of humor, which is like a ven diagram where it overlaps American sense of humor. But it's not a perfect circle.
Yeah.
Okay. A documentary titled Frank Miller American Genius is getting a one night only showing on June tenth and Cinemark theaters here in the United States. I take issue with the title of that documentary, but I'll be good. Miller has worked on iconic comic characters from Batman to Daredevil, as well as his own creations. Silent Thomas, who's the CEO of Frank Miller, Inc. Directed the documentary, which I'm sure is even handed and fair.
There's there's I can't I can't tell your tone in that.
But I'm going to assume heavy dose of snark.
Okay, That's what I thought. Last for me on the thirty seconds or last least thirty seconds or last is that Atari has acquired in television entertainment, and by that I mean the brand in the games, not the actual LLC. So they're going to have access to the catalog of the television games and things like that, which includes Donkey Kong.
I will say this, So when I was a kid, I had an Atari twenty six hundred, and then I got I think it was my cousin's old in television and a whole like box of games. And this was after the video game crash in nineteen eighty three, so there was no there were no new games coming out for that system, like the whole thing had folded at this point. So I ad Atari really and I was really impressed by the Intellivision games because I felt like they were a real step up from the Atari twenty six hundred ones, even though I hated the intelevision controller with a passion. It was terrible.
Yeah, so they do have good games. Donkey Kong, Pac Man, Pitfall.
They had. They had their Dungeons and Dragons. I had that one. I had ad and D yeah that one. And I remember the game that I'll never forget was be Sevan Taine Baler because it had vocal simulation on there where you would have voice in there, which was crazy because if you had played Atari twenty six hundred, you just heard like bang bong, like those were the sound effects. But this one had had voice in it, but it was super like modulated and weird something, and they had to speak really slowly for you to be able to understand what they were saying. So that's thus the May seventeen Balmer.
I think that is that's amazing. I love it. I think the in television games that I played the most were River Raid and pole Position.
See those were both Atari games, as I recall, but maybe they had them on television too.
Well maybe maybe Google has already updated them all. I might have played pole Position on my Commodore sixty four.
Yeah, because because river Raid was probably my favorite Atari game that I did not own. River Raid and Pitfall two games that I thought were incredible and I didn't known either of them. Instead, I had Et the Extraterrestrial. Yeah, Who's that guy?
Is a delightful game to have said that you owned.
Sure. Yeah, the one that everyone says killed the video game industry and ended up ended up being in a big a landfill.
Landfill. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about that on one of our Business on the Brink episodes.
Yeah we did. Uh.
I never owned an atari or an in television. I just had, like I said, my Commodore sixty four. And the game I played most is a game that I had to look up to make sure it existed because no one remembered it called Space Taxi.
For me, it was there was a Texas Instruments game. I had that for a while. I thought I had imagined called Hunt the Wumpus, but no, it really existed. Kind of like mind Sweeper. It's one of those games where you have to kind of guess where what's in the tile next to you based upon clues, and then you make a move and if you're wrong, the Wumpus eats you. All right, well let me I still have one more thirty seconds or less. Oops, No, it's fine, Like we're thirty five minutes into this, sucker, let's go ahead and close out thirty seconds or less. So in nineteen seventy seven, Steven Spielberg directed a science fiction UFO film. It's called Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and I loved it. Spielberg says his next project is going to be going back to UFO Territory. Now, we don't know very much about the project except that David Kupp, who was the screenwriter on the original Jurassic Park, is going to be working on this, adapting an original story from Spielberg himself. The Universal Pictures already hasn't slated for a May fifteenth, twenty twenty six release.
Wow.
Yeah, that's like that's a deadline, right, Like you don't even have a cast or maybe not even a full script yet, and you're like, yeah, this movie's coming out on this date, so get get to work.
Yeah, that's wow. We also had another story that should have been in thirty seconds or less, but we found out shortly before we hit record, which is that Knives Out has announced the title of their third movie, which is Wake Up dead Man, which my brain is just picturing Don't Wake Daddy.
Yeah. Well, and I was talking to Ariel before we hit record that it was so funny that I have just started to kind of see Glass Onion stuff pop up in my recommendations for things like YouTube and stuff, little clips from that, which I mean, I've seen the movie, but I'm getting like little clips recommended to me. And it made me wonder, like huh. I wonder if they're going to make another one. And the last thing I had seen was that everybody attached was interested in the possibility of making another one, but that Ryan Johnson was still working out the story. So I guess that all got worked out.
Yeah, I guess, so yay, yay, hey yay.
I hope like Glass Onion is one where I enjoyed watching it when I saw it, but I think I liked the first movie better. Even though I liked I liked all the actors in the sequel, but I felt like the first movie was a better story, or at least that's that's how I felt. Part of it may have been just that I kind of my brain rejected the concept of purposefully destroying the Mona Lisa spoiler alert by the way, for Glass Onion.
Anyhow, I honestly like I must have been so upset by it that I forgot.
Yes, I forgot. That's the climax of the film. It's the thing that brings the villain down in the end. But moving on, We've got some trailers and stuff to talk about. One we saw a trailer for a documentary that's coming to Hulu on June thirteenth. It's called Brats and it's not about the dolls.
Which I thought it was, so I was not looking forward to watching the trailer. No, it's fine. Yeah, I was like, if we really hit that point, I mean, we need a documentary on the doll But.
You like the Barbie movie.
Yeah, but the Brat's already in that.
Yeah, it's true. That's one of those if you don't know, you'll never realize. It's a reference thing.
Yeah. But also I guess I should have realized that you spelled it br ats.
Yeah. I didn't put the Z in there or the Z. Yeah. This is about the Brat Pack, the group of young actors in the nineteen eighties who mostly were in things like John Hughes films, and it's sort of them reflecting on their celebrity at that time, and also just what the term the Brat Pack did to their careers and to the perception of them as people, which I think is really interesting because you're like, a lot of these folks, not all of them, but a lot of them went on to have really notable careers in film and television and have done lots of stuff since then. So it's interesting to see them now, you know, so many years later, like forty years later to talk about this stuff.
Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of them that well, first of all, some of them I didn't realize we're in the brat.
Pack, Like Rob Loow No, yeah, Rob Blow, you're right blow Okay.
I was like, is that the correct low? But yeah, Like I didn't realize he was in the brat pack.
Yeah, because they're not. When I think brat pack, like I think of, uh, what was it not sixteen Candles and not Pretty in Pink Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club is always the film I think of with brat pack, Like that's the movie that comes to mind. But the brat pack was it can insisted of a group of folks that span lots of different movies around that same general time period, and they all kind of fell into that you know, teenage comedy drama type stuff. So like Fast Times at Ridgemont High, I would argue would probably fall into that category two, although that was probably a little later. But yeah, I think the little trailer for this looked fun. Like I liked hearing people kind of reflect on it and hearing their perspective because it's something I had never heard before. So it's really interesting.
Yeah, it's positive and not positive, and it looks I mean it just it feels very It gives the same vibe as like class action parks as far as like the way people relate to it almost to me interesting. Yeah, I don't know why. I think it's just because some people are like, oh, yeah, I didn't like being called a brat and I didn't I didn't like it at the time, or I didn't like that these things happened, but also like it launched our career and like just like the the very honest seeing all of the sides of it.
Yeah, yeah, as it And because these were movies that were really popular when I was a kid, some of them like obviously dealing with stuff that was a little bit beyond my own experience because you know, I'm probably about on average, probably about five years younger than most of the members of the Brat Pack somewhere around there. So like it's a little different for me, but still really interesting and I'm looking forward to seeing it. Since those films they shaped a lot of stuff that would follow, right, Like, yeah, you could argue there'd be no Ferris Bueller's Day Off if there hadn't been you know, pretty in paining sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club, that kind of stuff. So like, when you start looking at the evolution of comedies featuring like teenage characters, a lot of that has its roots in this particular era of cinema.
Yeah, there is an interesting point in the trailer where John it's just a brief clip of John Cryer saying I wasn't a part of the brat pack, and how is I hope he was kidding because how is Ducky not a part of the brat pack?
Yeah, I think it's gonna be kind of a cheeky, little like murky kind of thing, and it's not reflective of his actual feelings. That's the implication I felt. But I won't know for sure until it comes out, And obviously I won't know for sure until November because it's going to be on Hulu. Yeah, yeah, and I have to wait till November. But to add Hulu to my Disney Plus subscription.
Yes, even though a lot of those movies were kind of before my time and I didn't get to appreciate them as a teenager, when they can, I'm out. I do look forward to it too. I don't look forward to the next thing we're going to talk about.
Yeah, this is I don't want to watch it. I when I saw that there was a trailer for this, I at first was excited because it's a trailer for a documentary that's coming to HBO, a three part documentary that premiere is on June second, and it's called.
Is it an actual documentary?
Yeah? Yeah, No, it's about the Texas Renaissance Festival. It's called Renfair.
Sorry I interrupted you.
Yeah, it's ren Fair and this is a documentary. It's not Did you think it was a scripted show.
I thought it was like a mockumentary.
No, it's a documentary. It's a real thing. Oh well real in air quotes because documentary I think should also be in air quotes. Because if you watch this trailer, anyone with like even a minor amount of media awareness will sense that this is something that's being kind of put into performformance mode. It's not like a documentary as in some kind of objective view of reality. It's clearly played up quite a bit. I said, it feels kind of like a Game of Thrones for very very low stakes, but ultimately it's about this guy who started a Renaissance festival and I believe it's supposed to be Texas, and the fact that he's getting on in years, and there are these three different people at least in the documentary, who knows how many in reality, but three people who are all kind of vying to be the new owner of this because the assumption is that the current owner will either want to hand it off or won't be around for very much longer because of various health issues, I guess. And yeah, it it feels like a lot of it feels very fake, fakementary, yeah, or even just plain fake, like it is not a mockular. It kind of feels like a documentary in that it's way too produced then your typical documentary would be. But yeah, I was like.
Also, people's reactions just don't feel real. And I I know that Renaissance festival circuit people are interesting. They usually feel real to me.
Yeah, there's there's definitely, Like I said, everything feels feels fake. Like I said, it does feel like Game of Thrones, but for you know, very super low.
Stakes produced by the Tiger King.
Yeah, that's that was how I worded it. It's like Tiger King, but Renaissance festival.
That, Yeah, you just needed to say that.
I would definitely say that if you want to watch something that is about a Renaissance festival that's produced with kind of a quirky love for how dorky renaissance festivals are. And I say that as a former Renaissance festival performer. Renfest, which was Mary Joe Pell's series best known as Mama Forrester of M S. T. Three K, she did a whole Renfest comedy documentary kind of thing, and although that's more of a tell it like a comedic TV series proposal that she did, but it definitely felt more like a love letter to the craziness that is Renaissance festivals, unless of this overproduced Tiger King nightmare.
That being said, some of the cringy things in the Renfest trailer that was called Fairnfair Trailer are kind not completely inaccurate sure oftentimes, which is also upsetting. Right, So, I think it's great to have a love letter to renaissance festivals, but there's also a lot of things in that culture that could be better.
Well. Yeah, Like again, going back to Jenny Nicholson, the piece she did about Evermore, I feel could easily apply to a lot of Renaissance festivals too, And she doesn't get into sort of the issues that certainly existed when you and I first started at the Renaissance Fair here in Georgia. The atmosphere, both on stage and backstage was a bit more body back then, which is not to say that it was better or worse, but it certainly wouldn't be appropriate today. And arguably you could say it was never appropriate. Ever, it was just not frowned upon back when we started, Like there was a lax attitude toward that kind of stuff, which was really not for the best, I would argue. But she doesn't really touch on that as far as Evermore goes. But she does touch on other issues things like, you know, entertainment and whether or not they're being fairly compensated, that kind of thing, And I feel like a real documentary about a Renaissance fair would need to go into that too, like how are the entertainers in your fair compensated? If they are, and if they're not, how do you get away with that that kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, I do feel like ren Fair touches on some of the inappropriate body behavior stuff in the trailer it'll be interesting. I don't know if I can bring myself to watch it. The next thing on HBO I actually look forward to watching isn't really something that belongs on the show, but it's the Great Lilian Hall.
Yes, yeah, I sent you the trailer for that because when I saw it, I was like, Wow, this looks like it's going to be really effective on an emotional level. But that's a story about an actor who is kind of looks like it's like almost like Alzheimer's, right, Like it's like a Alzheimer's or dementia or something. Yeah, it's some sort of degenerative function that's that's hitting her, that's affecting her ability to to just function generally, but specifically function in her role as an actor on the stage. And it definitely looks like it's gonna pack an emotional wallop. I mean, there was a line at the end of that trailer that was getting me to the point where I was like, there's dust in this room because my eyes are starting to get weepy.
I definitely cried during the trailer, and I know someone who's in it in a pretty decent sized role, and I was like, I look forward to watching you, but I need to, like, I will need to buy stocking Kleenex because I couldn't even make it through the tra trailer.
Well, the next thing we have on our list is sticking with the historical historical element. A trailer for my Lady Jane. And in this case, we're talking about Jane Gray. And this is a fictional retelling. It's like an alternate history series that premieeres on June twenty seventh. And it's an interesting trailer because I mean, it's a very much an alternate history to the point where people are behaving and talking in ways that are not at all historically accurate.
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say something, Jonathan, and you're gonna lose respect for me. I don't really know who Lady Jane Gray is.
You don't know who the Lady Jane Gray is, Okay. So she was kind of sort of queen for nine days, okay, and then she wasn't at all, like not just not queen, she was she was not anything anymore.
I don't know.
Yeah, so she was, yeah, and it was she was a teenager at the time. Yeah, she took the throne in the mid sixteenth century and was uh, descending from King Henry the seventh, so not the not the eighth, but the seventh, and so she was like I want to say, King Henry the eighth was like her granduncle. Uh. And anyway, she was she was kind of tapped to be regent because of a lack of anyone else to do the job at the time, and you know Edward had died. She effected was queen and then she was jailed in the Tower of London and then then she was executed. So yeah, very sad story about this person.
Did she do anything to be executed or was it just.
A power play she was, Yeah, she did something to be executed in that she got to be queen.
Okay, gotcha, gotcha?
Yeah, No, it really was a power play kind of thing. Yeah. She was technically charged with high treason, but that was because of her her husband, the Lord Dudley, was seen as a usurper. So her husband was seen as someone who was trying to make a play for the throne through his wife, and so kill them all was the way to go with that.
Sometimes people's methods are really not good. And I apologize. I apologize already, Like over halfway through this episode of People, I am running. I'm very little sleep, so I'm listening. I promise you I'm actively listening. But sometimes things are not sticking in my brain. So if I seem a little off, that is why.
Oh no worries. Yeah, this super Wonka Doodles. It's her story. Her historical story is one of tragedy. The series appears to be like, this was a terrible thing that happened in history, so we're just going to rewrite it and make it something totally different nice, which kind of makes me think of the completely made up Adventures of Dick Turpin in a way, except this doesn't look quite as silly. This definitely has some dramatic elements to it, but it has comedic ones too.
Yeah, it reminded me of that. Or I haven't watched it yet, but Renegade nell On Disney.
Yeah, I still need to see that. I friends of ours watched it and really liked it, and I still haven't watched it.
I've heard good things too, my sister. I at least heard her response to the first episode, which was it was really good but actually sad, which I didn't expect. But I like that there's giving Jane Gray a chance to rewrite her story because you know, she didn't get to be in the musical six because thankfully she didn't have to marry King Henry the Eighth.
Oh but Henry the Eighth was many things, but marrying his own grand niece was not one of them.
Thank goodness.
Yeah. Well, next up, we got a little little teaser trailer thing for Stranger Things The First Shadow, which is not a spin off Netflix series. It is a stage show that is now mounted at the Phoenix Theater in London. It actually opened this week on the twenty third of May, which, as we record this is yesterday.
Yeah. I think it looks like a fun play.
It definitely. It's giving me because it has like the same sort of effects and stuff like. It seems to be a very effects heavy sort of show, which you would expect for Stranger Things. It's giving me Back to the Future musical vibes, though it's not a musical.
I could I could see that. I yeah, I could see that. I also haven't seen Back to the Future the musical, but.
Well, as you can imagine, the DeLorean in that show is kind of like like it's not like it's the main star or anything. But that's the thing everybody goes nuts for when it's up on stage because it is such an impressive theatrical effect. I have a feeling that this show kind of has those as anchors as well. Yes, I gotta see.
I mean Beetle Juice also had a lot of cool like and yes, Harry Potter the Curse Child. Yeah, for all of that property's problems. Apparently this stage show has some crazy amazing effects.
Yeah, which you know, we can trace that back to everything, like back to the Phantom of the Opera or Starlight Express like that kind of stuff. But you know, obviously it's far more sophisticated now than from the early eighties and everything. But what did you think of this trailer? Because I had a thought, but I don't want to I don't want to affect your opinion before I say it.
Also, we should say that this play is Cannon, So even though it's not a spin off show, it is Cannon in the Stranger Things universe. I think if Jonathan didn't already say that, now I'm saying it if he did.
It's also it's also I would argue a prequel because you're seeing children who are also part of the experiments because the main one in Stranger Things is eleven, and one of the characters in you Know the First Shadow is labeled as one.
Yeah, I you know, I liked it. I think it looks fun and engaging. Any show could, you know? Being on being in theater, there's a lot of things that you can there's a lot of stage magic that you just know and your brain translates into, oh, yeah, that's what they're doing. That's cool. I feel like this is one of those shows that if I were fortunate enough to go to London to watch it, I would really be kind of amazed at the all of the stage craft. And I'm sorry, that's where my head goes. I think the acting looks good. This is one of the kids from It Isn't It Isn't.
When I was listening, I was like, at least some of these people are clearly English actors doing an American accent, because it doesn't sound right to me. Let me, let me double chuck.
Nope, he was not from it at all. He just kind of reminds me of one of the kids.
From from the most recent films.
Yeah, but okay, So to be fair, when you're like this is one of the prior kids are You're not caught up on Stranger Things, right.
Though, I am not. I never got past the first season.
So this will be a slight spoiler for you, Jonathan. I just wanted to double check myself to make sure I'm correct. The main character of this story is the kid who eventually becomes Vekna.
Oh wow in the season. I did not know that that was one of the kids that that that.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's a spoiler. You can edit in a giant spoiler alert if you.
I mean, no, You've only just spoiled it for me. I don't know if any of our listeners have also not watched beyond the first season, but it's just spoiled for you, know, your beloved co host, who's here on?
You warn you that?
It wasn't a warning it was it was you weren't warning me so much as you were alerting me that you were going to spoil it.
Okay, Well, I'm sorry.
Who's an editor for this show? Who edits? Yeah? So, no matter what, I was gonna have to hear it.
I guess that makes sense, so maybe so, But I mean, in season four this, this is something that they talk about okay throughout the season. But yeah, so it's it is just telling that character's story. It's telling Henry Kreole's story, gotcha. But it's still totally worth the watch. I actually quite enjoy I think season two was my least favorite season of Stranger Things, but they all feel so very different to me.
Yeah, I it's I need to get better about this because the list of things that are that I kind of put off to the side and then just never went back to is so long. And it's not that I don't want to go back. It's that the longer I wait, the more it feels like it's work. Right.
Yeah, well, I mean so like in some of the things, it's hard because you're like, well, I'm going to go back to this, but then I'm going to have to go back to it again in another you know, six months.
Or yeah, or I need to start over because I don't remember all the threads anymore.
So, like I didn't finish season of one of Lost in Space, and I wanted to because I also want to watch season two, but now I have to go back and watch all of season one. I did not. I haven't seen the very last episode of Lock and Key, and now I'm afraid I have to go back and watch all of the final season. To watch the final episode.
It correct me if I'm wrong, Ariel, And maybe I am, but I could have sworn, didn't you like hold out against watching Stranger Things for a long time because you were worried it was too scary.
I I tried to watch the first episode by myself like twice, and it was too scary. And finally it hit like a saturation point in our culture where my partner, who I love and tries a lot of shows with me, but a lot of shows if like the first of the second episode don't grab him. Because I do have vastly more interests than he does, I don't make him watch it. You know, I made him watch almost the I made him watch the entire first season of Doctor Who with me, and he didn't like it. So I haven't made him watch anymore. And he wasn't interested. He had watched the first episode two and was like, it feels like one of those shows where they're like, hey, remember this nostalgia. I think he had got burned by oh okay, well, like the first episode is all about like, hey, things were wacky when we did it back debt then and then here's all the creativity of how we make an ad and then it kind of left all of those things and just, uh, just turned into a drama show. So I think he was a little bit wary because of that, and then just the whole like, hey, remember all this nostalgia thing. He was like, that's not really good story. But he sat through the first season with me and ended up liking it that like the more you went into it, kind of in the same way I feel like Fallout the first I liked the first two episodes, but I definitely feel the show gets exponentially better as it goes along. So he eventually watched it, and then he really enjoyed it and ended up watching all the seasons with me and has even gone back and watched the seasons without me. But I can handle it now, But when it first came out, it was not knowing what to expect. It was too scary for me to get into. Kind of like I had to watch Scream one twice because the first time I couldn't get through the beginning part with Drew barrymore understandable.
It's a pretty intense sequence. Well, if you're in London and you go to the Phoenix Theater and you catch Stranger Things the first shadow, let us know what you thought about it, because I don't I don't currently have plans to be in London anytime super soon, so I don't know that I'm going to be able to catch this.
I wouldn't hate being in London super well.
Neither would I. I just don't think it's going to happen.
Yeah.
Yeah, so we got we got several more things to get through and I want to get through them, so we're going.
To We'll do it.
We'll do it quicker, quicker, Yeah, we'll see. But next up, we have a trailer to what If, an immersive story which definitely gets set in the MCUs what If Animated series universe kind of thing, but it's not something you're going to be able to watch on television or on your smartphone or on a tablet. The only way you get to experience this is if you're one of those people who shelled out at least three five hundred dollars for an Apple Vision pro headset because it's an augmented reality series. Boo.
There are other augmented reality headsets you could have and play it on. That's just mean.
Yeah, I mean, on the one hand, Apple needs to have like various applications custom made for the Vision pro to justify anyone purchasing it, because yeah, why would you buy this incredibly expensive piece of technology if there's nothing to run on it. It's like buying a video game console but there are no video games out for it. It would make no sense, right, So on the one hand, I get it, Like I get the incentive for Apple to have this happen. I'm guessing they must have dumped a truckload of money over on Disney's front lawn, because otherwise, why would Disney spend the time and resources to make this for what they know would have to be a small audience, Like we're talking at most around half a million people who have one of these things.
Yeah, yeah, you know what, though I would, I wouldn't. I bought a VR headset in December, and I didn't buy an Apple one. I don't own any Apple products. I'm gonna be all honest here. Yeah, I'm an android girl.
But in more ways than one, she actually has a robot brain.
Yep, you can hear the whir of the servers inside. Uh, this is going to be the future, saying uh yeah, No, I like, I get it, but also I don't get you know what, I don't get paying more for Apple because I'm a cheap, cheap girly. I'm like, then I can only use proprietary things to Apple. Yeah, and it's more expensive and I have to update it more often, and I'm like, that's just it's nope. I know a lot of people love Apple, and I have a lot of actors who are like, oh, you should switch to Apple because it's easier to edit these things. You've got all these tools for like your auditions and stuff, and I get that, not to.
Mention that your text messages won't be popping up in blue anymore. Yeah, yeah, because the whole I message thing. No, I'm the same way. I don't. I'm a I'm a PC Android kind of feller. So I don't have Apple either. And there is definitely an Apple tax that you pay on top of stuff, Like, they make great products, but they're expensive for what they are already, and then they get more expensive because it's Apple. The vision pro is one of those things where I feel they're still trying to argue it's a solution that's still looking for a problem. Like I don't think a lot of people have tons of use cases where an augmented reality headset would solve a real issue they have. It would just be another way to do stuff, which I don't think is a strong enough argument to get people to buy something that's that expensive. Now, for the longest time, everyone has said, well, the Vision Pro is like, that's like the debut product, and the later ones will be scaled down, they won't have as many features and they'll be less expensive. But the question is will that version still be interesting enough for people to actually buy when they know they're not getting the full thing? Right, Like, it may be that, yeah, i'd get the Vision Pro if it weren't thirty five hundred dollars, if it were closer to like a smartphone, then maybe i'd buy it. But if you tell me, okay, we've got you a version that you can buy, but it's lacking all these other features that are only in the Vision Pro, then you're like, well, now you're trying to sell me something that's not as valuable to me.
At that point, spend a fraction of the money and get a decent VR headset like a Medaquest or Yeah. I understand you may not want to buy a Medicquest because you may not want to support that company, but you know there are other headset companies out there that are less expensive.
Yeah, but the the trailer does look neat like it's It looks like it would project the view of animated characters within your actual environment. There's a bit where someone's doing the hand gesture of swirling their hand in a big circle to create a portal a Lah Doctor Strange or Wonger's which makes me wonder if if it means you're going to get the MCU's premiere party girl to show up, because that would be awesome. That would be awesome.
But yeah, you are the No, you are the the MCU's premiere party girl in that game.
Yeah, my name is Jonathan with a Y. But it's not where you think. But yeah, I thought, I thought the trailer looked interesting, but it's a I think it's almost a non starter because it's the Apple Vision pro. I just I can't imagine there's going to be a large enough audience for it to have any sort of follow up and it means that most people are never going to experience the story, which is kind of a bummer.
Yeah, it looks like the people who worked on it did a really good job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no shade on them.
Yep. Sadness, Well, let's go from sad to scared because those are similar emotions.
Yeah. I made Ariel watch another horror trailer, this time for a movie called Never Let Go, which is coming out in September. September twenty seventh, and really scary and Yeah, it looks interesting like there's obviously been some sort of apocalyptic event that looks like it might be paranormal in nature, like there's there's stuff in the woods and it wants to get you and when you. It centers around a family. Halle Berry plays the mother, and she has two boys, right and yes, And whenever they have to go out and forage for stuff, they each tie a rope that leads back to the house and they're told to never never let go of that rope, thus the title, and as the trailer reveals, things do not go as planned.
Yeah. It I can't really tell what exactly the bad guy is in it. It does feel very super natural. It kind of gives me like, I didn't watch Arcadian, but I did watch the trailer for it that Nicholas Cage one with the two with the two boys. Yeah, maybe I'm just reminded of it because of the like they they also hole up in their house and it's a family of three with a parent and two kids. Like that meets bird Box well in.
A little bit of a quiet place too.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like there's almost a subgenre of movies that all kind of belong to the same general family like that. Like, it's interesting to me when movies do this, particularly in the horror genre, where you'll get into these cycles where it's not the same story, but you can tell like they're dealing with similar premises. So in this case, it's the small family post apocalypse, depending upon each other. There's something out there that's gonna get them. But like a few years ago, the big subgenre in horror was you think your host's house is haunted, but guess what turns out Grandma lives in the water.
I don't like that either.
Well I didn't say it was good. I just said like, there were a ton of movies that had someone's living in the walls of your house as the actual thing, Like it's always done in a way where it's supposed to be. You're supposed to think it's paranormal, but it turns out Nope, it's a dude living in It's Bruno living in the walls of your house.
Well, okay, okay, that I don't like. I don't now every time I hear a noise, Jonathan, because I avoid horror.
Generally, you're either gonna think it's someone in the house or there's something outside that's gonna get you if you're not tied to your home. Yes.
Yes. Also, when I was trying to remember the name Arcadian, I looked up Nick Cage horror movie and apparently there's one where he's an FBI agent chasing a serial killer coming out this year called Long Legs, and those pictures scared me.
I'm sad. I looked at You've got to be careful to Google when we're in the middle of recording.
But I like doing it. It makes me seem like I'm smarter.
Than I Well, let's move on to something that I feel you'll have a lot to say about. Because we watched we got the full trailer first trailer for Beetlejuice the sequel, So Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. What did you think of this trailer?
Three times?
Three times? Yeah, it's fine.
Now, Yeah, I liked it. I liked it more than I thought I would, and I felt like Michael Keaton brought his energy up from the teaser trailer.
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny that they I wish they didn't repeat a gag that was in the first movie. There's a specific gag that they repeat, and when I saw that, first I thought, well, I wish you hadn't shown this in the trailer, and second I thought, well, I kind of wish you hadn't done it at all, because it starts to remind me of like those Mike Myers movies, like where he'll do the same style of physical comedy in every movie that he's in.
Yeah, yep, I think I know the gag you're talking about. And I had the same reaction.
Yeah, the whole, the whole, like you want to see the whole scary thing, like you know what I'm talking Yeah.
Yeah, they did it in the play, and I loved it in the play because I'm like, well that was cool. I didn't you know, that was a cool stage effect. But yeah, when I saw it in this, I'm like, oh, you've already done that. But honestly, my biggest concern with the trailer is that there's a lot more like Sandworm action, and uh I think it's CG. It feels more CGI than and I could just be in a sleepy delirium in the trailer. It seemed more CGI than like stop motion to me. Yeah, and I didn't like that as much.
Yeah, there is a certain charm, a janky charm that comes with stop motion animation, and uh it, I do prefer that to CGI. Certainly. I'm amazed that they didn't do some sort of gag that made it feel like a poking fun at Dune, considering how big a hit Dune has been, and just like the whole sandworm thing with Dune, I'm amazed they didn't do a joke. But maybe that'll end up being in the movie, who knows, or maybe they'll resist that urge. I hope they do.
Yeah, I hope that the movie's surprising me too, and we don't know what happens.
Yeah, Yeah, it's other than Lydia's daughter Astrid appears to not have much of a concern about her mother's warnings, which is pretty typical of you know, kid who's going through their own kind of existential crisis. I mean, goodness, dos Lydia did the same thing the first film, So yeah, I'll be I'm eager to see it. It's I think I liked it more than I expected. I still feel like this is a movie that they had come out ten years ago, I would have been far more eager to see it.
Yeah, yeah, I think I agree.
Okay, Well, what about the trailer for the series Phantasmas, which is scheduled to come out on HBO on June seven.
I don't think it's for me. I think there's too much literal, potty humor in it.
There's a bit where they actually touched the water in a toilet.
There's several toilets in the trailer, and I'm like, there's too much focus on toilets. It just I don't know. It looks bizarre and quirky and weird, and I love that, and I love all the guest stars they have in it. It just also feels like it might be a little raunchy for me.
I'm still trying to get like a handle on like, how surreal and dream like is this series going to be, because the trailer makes it look really really kind of surreal to the point where it may not be able to hook me just because it's not concrete enough. The premise is just weird. The main character is looking for a gold oyster earring and somehow these stories are a result of that. And yeah, it's very dream like like I said, And.
The character has like some sort of really bizarre synesthesia.
Yes, yes, yeah, and they actually kind of communicate that about how how numbers have weight to them and that kind of stuff. Yeah, I will probably give it a shot, but if the first episode is so far out there that I can't really feel like I've got got an anchor point, I don't know that I'll stick with it.
Yeah, I look forward to hearing your review because it's the trailer. I watched the trailer and I almost put it in our lineup, and then I was like, I just don't know.
Yeah, I just don't know.
So I'm glad you put it in there, and I look forward to hearing your review about it, because I'll probably based on whether I give it a shot, off.
To me like if it if it feels makes me feel more like it's like this is the movie equivalent of a Meo Wolf exhibition that I'm like, I'm in, I'm ready to see it. But if it's if if there's even less to grab onto than a meow wolf exhibit, which is not a lot, Yeah.
I mean like there's a lot to grab on at Wolf, but it's hard to get it in order.
So yeah, it's yeah, because it's I mean, that's the downside to it being kind of like a free flowing experience where you have no idea in what order people are going to encounter the story, and uh, you know, for some people they might encounter the story in such a way that's really compelling, and other people just be really frustrating. So we'll have to see. Uh. We got a couple of stories here that are sort of about trends and predictions for films that are going to be a hit at the box office, And in one case, we're talking about a movie that seems to at least imply that maybe people aren't so burnt out on superhero films as they thought they were.
Yeah, which is AMC has selled more day one tickets than they have for any other R.
Rated movie already for what movie, Ariel, you have to say.
Oh do I got people can't read my mind? Steppool, it's Steppool and Wolverine.
Yeah. Yeah, so this that's been doing gangbusters business, Like the whole thing of getting people to buy tickets ahead of time, Like that's been a for a while now. It's not that big of a surprise, although I don't remember it being so far out as this, Like this is when it's more than a month out from when the movie comes out. To me, that's a surprise.
It's just about two months now. So it comes out July twenty fifth, which is in two months tomorrow.
Yeah, so that's to me, like that's a long lead up time to buy a ticket to a movie.
It is. And you know, like like I get it because I am more excited for Deadpool and Wolverine than I have been for other things. And part of that is, you know, Hugh Jackman's coming out of retirement as Wolverine. Yeah, not that the actor has retired. And it's fun and it's interesting, it's novel because we get to see how they poke fun at Disney, right, and like how far they can push that line so I get it, and I get the appeal there. I don't know if the movie will hold up to all of the hype. I hope it does.
Yeah, and part of me thinks, like, oh, maybe I should go ahead and buy a ticket, because like, I don't want stuff spoiled for me for that movie. I want, like, if there's going to be a big surprise cameo in that film, I want to be able to see it and just experience it without having read about it. Thanks. Yeah, thanks, But yeah, if there's a big if there's a big twist or a big reveal or a big cameo, like if Robert Dunny Junior shows up as Iron Man and part of that movie, then I would definitely want to see it, right. I would not want to hear about it and then see it. So part of me is wondering if I should also take the plunge and buy a frickin' ticket to this movie that doesn't come out for two months. But I don't always know what I'm doing next week.
So yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'm in the same boat. I did see an article where they're like this, this MCU character makes a surprise appearance and blah blah blah and this new trailer and I'm like, no, it was in the first trailer, and you're fine and shut up.
It's one of those clickit articles.
Yeah, it was really annoying, and one.
Where one where they don't tell you who the surprise cameo is until you're like five paragraphs down and you've scrolled past four different ads and.
It's barely a cameo and it was in the first full trailer. So whatever, You apparently know what I'm talking about.
Un An Man. Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's clearly ant Man's giant body in the trailer.
I mean, he mentions it. But to me, saying, hey, we think this is going to be a really big box office because of how many pre sale tickets we've already sold, and being transparent about that makes a lot of sense. Inside Out is also saying it's going to have the biggest box office inside Out too in forever, except for they're not explaining how they're getting those metrics. So to me, that feels like they're saying, if we say it, it'll happen. If we tell people it's going to be the biggest box office event, people are gonna be like, I can't miss it and they're gonna buy.
T I mean, my guess is that it's similar in that they're tracking pre sales, and what they're doing is they're extrapolating how many ticket sales they think they're going to have day of based upon how many tickets have been pre sold. But that's just a guess. It's not clear. We're doing this from an article that was in Deadline about how there's these predictions that Inside Out to is trending to be this big hit for Pixar, which would be a nice turnaround for the company because the last couple of movies they put out have not performed super well at the box office.
Yeah, but the only like, the only concrete information we have as to how they're getting these figures, which you're right, it's probably those things we just don't know, is that they did premiere the first thirty five minutes of Inside Out to a CinemaCon and apparently it got a good reception.
But then, you know, no big surprise. Those are delightful characters and Pixar's very good at animation. So the question is will those delightful characters and animation translate into an actual box office hit. I mean, like, was it Elemental? Is that what the name of the other one was? Yeah, like that one. The trailers look cute and everything, and it felt very Inside Out meets Zootopia ish to me, but folks just didn't go see it.
Well, it wasn't marketed well because they made it feel very Zootopia meets Inside Out ish, and apparently that's not what the story was at all, So they're they're bad on that. Sometimes marketing is so dumb.
Yeah, yeah, And that brings us back to the Jenny Nicholson video about the Star Wars Hotel and how bad their marketing was for that. Yeah. I mean, I hope Inside Out too does well. Is not a Pixar film that has me particularly excited. I'm sure it will be very entertaining, but it's kind of like if they brought out another Toy Story movie, which I know is another one's in development now, but if they brought another Toy Story movie out, I'd just be like, Okay, Like the first two movies in the Toy Story series kind of were enough for me. I thought the first one was great as a joy of discovery, Like I wish I could go back and watch Toy Story for the first time again, because that was one of those movies where it was so much fun entering into that world for the first time. Toy Story two, I felt, had the super emotional, gut punch story of Jesse that I really enjoyed. I didn't hate three, but I didn't love it, and for I just got bored as I was watching it, so.
I didn't. I mean, we've talked about this. I didn't watch four. I think three was my favorite.
But which is that's cool, it's necessary, that's cool. I don't know. Three just didn't work for me that well. But but like.
Once, it's a giant chase scene.
Yeah, well, you can only have so many fury roads out there. Uh. But yeah, I think I'd be more excited seeing an all new Pixar.
Good Dinosaur too.
That's not all new, that's very old and was terrible the first.
Time Bad Dinosaur.
I can't. I can't say for sure that all new one would be a hit because Good Dinosaur was a thing and Elemental was a thing. But yeah, I don't know. I don't wish them ill, but I guess it's a good thing that the box office is kind of recovering. I still don't think we're past where we were before the pandemic, but it's definitely better than immediately after the pandemic.
Well, part of it is like we had a lull because of the pandemic, and then we had a lull in movies because of the writers and actors strike, and now the IATZ is looming, So movies haven't really had a chance to catch up, and I don't think they are going to for a little bit.
Well, yeah, and I think the delay from the I think the writer and actor strike stuff, I think that's we still I don't think have seen the biggest gap from that, because just of how long post production typically takes. There's probably a good gap coming up.
We haven't seen it yet. But as actors as acting community are feeling.
Oh absolutely, I'm just saying audiences probably aren't as aware yet. I mean, they know it's going to come. Something that you might not know is coming if you go to see a screening of Megalopolis, is that there's gonna be a point in that movie where a real life human being is gonna stand up in front of the movie screen and talk to it, and it's gonna talk back.
To them, it's one line.
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it would be really that big of a deal or important, and yet it's there. So we talked about Megalopolis in a recent episode. We talked about the trailer and how it was gonna screen. It can and it did, And based on the things I have read, it seems like the most frequent reaction has been one of either I don't know what I just watched, or what I just watched was a bad movie, but I'm very much intrigued by it, or man, that was a bad movie.
Yeah, that's what I've read too. I I'm sad by that because there's a lot of really great actors who I like who are involved in it, like Adam Driver and at Aubrey Poza and I and Natalie Emmanuel. But and I don't want them to be involved in a project that they look back on and go, oh why, But it just yeah, this movie, what the heck is going on?
Yeah? It kind of sounds like this is one of those those cases where an auteur filmmaker is able to get everything they want and it turns out that that's not necessarily a good thing. I am long maintained actually that sometimes constraints and restrictions are the best thing for creativity because you have to find ways around them. And Coppola funded this with his own money, Like he sold off part of his winery in order to make this movie, which I mean that is a huge constraint obviously when you're spending your own cash, But it meant that he didn't have anyone to answer to, right, there's no studio demanding he'd do things one way or another, And it sounds to me like maybe that isn't the best for this particular project. But as we said, like, there's even a point in the movie at least there was it can where an actor stood up with microphone in hand and had a very brief interaction with the characters on screen, so that you had a live theater component to this film, which raises questions like would that be necessary for every screening of this movie? If not, would you feel like you were missing out on something? If you weren't missing alan something, why was it in there in the beginning?
Yeah, I can't imagine that they're going to keep that in for regular Like, there's no.
Way can you imagine can you imagine going to a theater in rural Georgia and hearing someone with a rural Georgia accent trying to interact with these characters who are inostensibly a futuristic New York city that's now called New Rome. It would be so weird.
Yeah, I agree. And there are lots of like there's a theater near me Springs Cinnamon Tap that does a lot of like interactive fun stuff with movie hosts and things like that. One of those people, a lot of them are afters. A lot of them people that you and I mutually know. But you know, you can do that for a screening or two, but not every screening for every day, although the movie's very long, so maybe you could only play it twice a day.
Yeah. Yeah. I recommend checking out some reviews of this film written by people who attended the screening and can just to kind of kind of hear what their impressions were, because since neither of us have seen it, we can't give you our opinion. We can only pass along that other people have said that it was real weird and that I didn't come across anyone who actually liked it. I think there might have been a few people who appreciated the audacity of it. But that's not the same thing as enjoying the movie.
I feel like the Vogue article that you linked to this show note gives a really good, thoughtful review of what they saw.
Yeah, and in that case, the person who saw it, they enjoyed the experience. They didn't like the movie, but they found the experience of watching the movie somewhat entertaining, particularly based upon how the people around her were reacting to the movie.
Yeah. Yeah, So once I am finally able to sit down and update the website, hopefully over this long weekend, you will be able to. I mean, you can look it up on Vogue, you all know how to google. But I will include it in our show notes on our website www dot Larger Drunk Collider. I could probably speculate about this movie for a lot more time, like is it going to beat out Soccer Punch for the movie that I like watching the least? Or Children of Men but.
Still a great movie.
Soccer Punch.
No, Children of Men. I know that you and I have a fundamental disagreement about that movie, and.
That's fine, But but this has been another epic episode. So uh, we're gonna We're gonna sign off and I'm going to get myself some nappy time that.
It's probably for the best and out of consideration for you, Ariel, I'll just say that this week, there's nothing special you need to do in order to get in touch with me. If you have any questions, you know, just go to your local forest and scream it into a tree.
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