Large Nerdron ColliderWe're back after our lengthy hiatus to talk about geek news and what we're excited about in 2025. This is our longest episode yet!
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor John Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the world around us and how very excited we are about them. We have missed you. I am Ariel cast In, and with me, as always is the amazingly awesome Jonathan Strickland.
I don't know if I remember how to do this anymore.
That's okay. I introed us, so we're already in it.
Yeah, you know what first take y'all who which before us? Before the hiatus. I'm going to be honest with you, there were a couple of episodes where we had to do it twice.
It depends on how much sleep I've had.
Yeah, and then and then of course we end up referencing things that have been cut out of the episode, and then everyone's like, why aren't they even talking about?
You know what? The real problem is the problem is is when I try to get clever and it's something into the intro, but I haven't figured out how or where to put it because I don't give it enough forethought.
Yeah, I always do my little weird response when you introduced me, and honestly, ninety nine times out of one hundred. I don't know what I'm gonna say until you're like, you're like saying my name, and I'm like, oh, no, say something. So but it is nice to be back. As Ariel said, we had been on a very long hiatus because we had holidays and travel. I went out of the country.
I went out of town a couple of times.
Yeah. So, and that's going to happen more, obviously, because we've got more holidays coming up. Ariel's going to be celebrating a birthday real soon.
We might we still you know, we record on my birthday this year. We might still record an episode if you're free. I just have stuff in that evening. Yeah, it's not I'm not partying. I'm doing actor work.
It bums me out though, because I invited her to a party and she can't go.
I know, I have an acting conference and there are people there that I should meet that I have not had an opportunity to meet before.
So you are doing the right thing. We're just all the poorer for it because we were gonna try and get together and do some karaoke and Ariel's voice is always welcome.
Well one, I'm poor for it too. Because I love doing karaoke with you. And two, I don't know, I've been I've been singing along to my Broadway playlists and it's not been pretty lately.
Oh listen, you don't have to. You don't have to to make excuses for me. I mean I have I have never been the strongest singer, but my abilities have atrophied severely.
So part of it is a few weeks ago, I went to a friend's birthday party, and I don't it was after Disney, so I don't know if something at Disney caused it, or I think the party caused it, or it was completely random. But after this birthday party, the next day, I woke up with horrible hives.
Oh my gosh, Like I had.
To be put on prednizone and stuff and so and so, like I'm working to go see an allergist to figure out what caused that, because that's new. Yeah, but it my throat still has not quite It's it's not COVID, I've checked. It's not of cold, it's it's allergy ish, but my throat hasn't quite recovered yet.
So wow, Well, I hope you figured that out soon, because as someone who suffers from various allergies. I know how scary that can be, especially like when you get if you get hives and then it develops into beyond hives, to things like you feel you're breathing tubes starting to swell up. It's it's serious stuff. I've been to the hospital more than once because of that.
I've I've definitely had like skin breakouts or lies.
But this was like all body.
It was all over my arms, on my ankles, on my chest and spreading.
Did you have did you were any of your soft tissues, like say your lips or whatever swelling up to.
I couldn't tell. I was so distracted by the thing. But I did definitely have like itchy sword throat, which is what I get with my normal food allergens. Right, And it's been hard because sometimes it does feel like my throat tightens. It's never to the point where I can't breathe, but it's one of those things that is hard to quantify.
Sure, yeah, I've I've had the experience a couple times going into anaphylaxis and it's no fun. And it's it's slow enough where it's not like it's not like it's instantaneous. It's a process, but it's a process that only gets worse until you start getting like any histamines pumped into you. So I hope that you get this figured out and that whatever it is is something that's easy to avoid and not tragic.
Yeah. Yeah, me, me too. Uh. I I have had like my lips go numb and tingly, and yet I've gotten lightheaded once.
But that's I told you. I'm sorry. The kiss was what it was. We're on stage, we're doing a show. We have to kiss. She goes all tingly and numb. It's just what I do.
That's more interesting than the actual story.
So yeah, yeah, because actual story is that our stage kisses were about as chaste as they possibly could be.
Which is how stage kisses are should be.
Yes, they should be that follow that. Yeah, when I hear those stories, and you even told me one once, but when I hear those stories, it is mortifying to me. I'm like, when you're on stage with someone, you need to feel like you can trust that person because that's that's your partner for telling a story, like trust is absolutely necessary for that and to violate that trust by like frenching someone on a stage kiss when you told me that, Oh my gosh, I got so upset and angry on your behalf. And you, of course had already processed it by the time you told me, but I, for me, it was the first time, and I just got real head up about it.
I mean, like, processing is a thing. If I think about it too much, I'll still get angry because part of my processing.
Is just like moving past the suppression then moving on.
Not gonna lieh but yeah.
Yeah, well, and you know, I've heard the same sort of thing from It's almost always the women I know who I've been in theater, like the experiences they've had, and I just sit there and think, like, what kind of crappy actor takes like takes that kind of advantage of their scene partner, Like it's it's so unthinkable to me. My thought process whenever I had a stage kiss was just like are you sure? Because I'm more of a character actor than like a romantic lead, but I'm ill, I will, I will happily do a stage kiss if you want me to, but like, are you sure you want that? And fortunately the people I've been paired with we've always been professional as you and Shae, friend of the show shay Lee. She and I had some stage kisses at a season at Fair and I've been lucky that everyone was super professional and like it was the same thing as doing anything else on stage, like shaking someone's hand or like, you know, stepping past someone. It wasn't ever, it wasn't ever anything more than that. And I just can't imagine someone being like, this is my chance, yeah, smooch a hawtie.
Well, And that's why I really love in Hollywood. This is not at all where we intended to go, but it's totally fine. It's why I love in Hollywood that intimacy coordinators are becoming a thing. Yeah, because at that, like you said, it's like making a hand or something. You know. I've there's Jessica I don't remember her Steinrock. She's she's a TikTok and Instagram intimacy coordinator. Her her content is amazing. I love it, but you know, she's like, it's like fight choreography. You know it should be specific, and you know they are working within actors comfort levels and things like that. But there are some actors who are like, I'm fine, I like improving. I don't need an intimacy coordinator, But you do even if you and the other actor decide that you're okay winging it a little bit because you want to make sure everybody's comfortable, and you want that in a mediary because you may not be comfortable telling your scene partner. But beyond that, when you choreograph a kiss or something like that and you talk through it and you make sure that it is chased, then there's not like a chance of getting extra feels. I mean, how many times in Hollywood do we hear about like this person in this part or and in community theater too hooked up and broke up with their current significant others because they hooked up and it's just it's not healthy.
Yeah, we had that. The stories are happening right now. Like if you look at if you look at any of the stuff around Wicked, you're gonna run into that. For good reason. I mean, we don't want to, We don't need to go into all that. But this is also why, like Ariel was saying, you know, catching feels being something that actors are just as prone to as other people. Some might argue more prone to it, which is why you know, Ariel and I did a stage kiss and Shaye and I did a stage kiss, and that's why Ariel and Shaye love each other. Now, it's just it's through they through a degree of separation, they've made out and you know it's my fault.
It is. It is really interesting because you know, one thing, you have to separate yourself from your character because you spend so much time in this other person's shoes. That's why it's so easy to conflate their feelings with your feelings, even if you're not a method actor, because you are still feeling something sure, and if it's imaginary.
If you're not, then all you're doing is is moving to point, saying something, moving to another point, saying the next thing, like you're just going through the paces and not actually acting.
I saw somebody talk about Wicked and they said that Cynthia Rivo on set, who played Alphaba, would literally step forward to get into character and step back to get out of it because that character goes to some pretty dark places. And so I found that very interesting. Everybody has their own like decompression.
Methods, but yeah, it's interesting. I'm curious about yours. Like I'm one of those actors who I can go I can go from backstage Jonathan to on stage character. Just as soon as I cross the threshold to go on to stage, like don't, I don't have that thing where I stay in character. When I come off stage, I go right back into backstage Jonathan, and then I'm fine to be on stage character again. Like it doesn't. You could argue, I'm also not a very good actor. So let's take that as a grain of salt.
I'm gonna argue that you are a very good actor. But whatever, thank you, You're welcome. I mean so, like for funny characters, it is easier if your character is in a light heart or even serious characters, if they're in a light hearted place, it's a lot easier to step back and forth. It's when you've got the big angry emotions or sad emotions, things like that. Yeah, and you have experienced.
That, yes, yeah, if you want to, if you want to play something someone who has very strong, passionate and typically angry or hurt emotions, it is much harder to just do the switch flipping from one to the other. Like, I totally get that, because again, if you want it to be genuine and not just the performance of emotion, which an audience can smell a mile away, right. We can all tell when someone's just faking it, like sometimes that's staged, like sometimes it's an important part of a story where you can tell that a character is faking that they are upset or sad or whatever. But if you are supposed to be, you want the audience to feel that you are, And so I can totally see it in those And for the most part, most of the stuff I've worked in has been light light theater.
We shall say, yeah, yeah, you know its Yeah, I do a lot of light stuff. I've lately had a lot of additions for distrap people, so it has been like a challenge because usually what happens is I'll step into that character, the tears don't come, which you don't need tears to earnestly portray upset or sad or heartbroken or whatever. You don't need tears half the time. Then when we show up on camera, unless you're in a super close up anyhow, but you know, usually I will fight with that emotion and then when I'm done with the scene, I'll go off and cry in a corner. Yeah, which I would rather cry on camera and get it out there.
But well, I want to say it was I could be wrong about the actor, but I want to say it was Mike Cocaine who was talking about the paw hour of a character who appears to be holding back tears instead of like a character who's just outwardly crying. And then a character that appears to be trying to stop themselves from crying or expressing an emotion can often have a much larger emotional impact on an audience than a character who's actually like outwardly sobbing.
Yeah. Yeah, because when you see someone trying to hide their emotions, that's what we all do every day. Yeah, but that actually leads into one of my thirty seconds or less stories because I got some opinions on it.
Okay, well we'll get to that, but before we do that, Like, this has been a long preamble, This is going to be a long episode. I can tell away. But well, let's talk a.
Little situate in very short bits so you get through the holidays.
Yeah, because who knows what, we'll be taking more breaks, but let's plan on recording next week unless something crazy happens. But we want to start off the way we typically do and talk about some of the stuff we've seen since the last time we recorded. Now, in my case, I could only remember a couple of things, even though I know I've seen more than that. But Ariel, let's talk about your stuff first, because you've got quite a bit here.
Yeah. So Gastronauts is the dropout show. I've been continuing to watch that. They've been putting out stuff like every week. It's interesting when you said you often don't know what you're going to say until as I'm announcing you, because the host of Gastronauts admitted to a similar thing. She's like, I don't know what food pun I'm gonna do. Oh no, I have twenty seconds to figure it out. Yeah, they usually do great. So I watched that. It continues to be fun. It is hard. It's weird because again it's not always about pretty food. It's about meeting the comedic challenge. But the food usually always tastes good. I watched Last Fight Hotel, which was more of a Halloween feature. But I'm behind on everything where Titus Burgess is the host of a I might have already talked about this, so I'll keep it. Every host of like a hotel, and all of these chefs come in, they can only put thirteen items in their chest, and that's what they get to cook with for the entire week. Are those thirteen items.
And once they're out of something, they're out.
They're out. Yes, And then each challenge, like a celebrity chef comes in and asks for something like beef wellington. Well one chef only brought rice and chicken and herbs, so you still have to figure it out. There's there's a little bit of sharing allowed, but not much. And then when somebody does get eliminated, they have to go to room thirteen and basically write out their will for who gets what of their remaining belongings.
Oh okay, it's a.
Really fun show. It was like the chefs were great to watch. It was fun to see how they tackled each challenge and came up with new dishes with the same ingredients because you know, food waste is a thing, so it was kind of cool to look from that aspect. Titus Burges, who I love. He played Titus in the Incredible Can Be Incredible. Kimi Schmidt Unbreakable. Kimmie Schmidt, that's it.
She was also the song Yeah breakable, She's.
Also incredible, But yes, Unbreakable. Kimischmitt really committed to the incredibly socially awkward, kind of creepy hotel concierge, but was in a completely different story than everybody else in this challenge. The rest of it was a cooking show and nobody else had a character.
Did that add to or detract from your experience?
I would I think it detracted a little bit, because I mean, like even the celebrity guest chefs weren't playing care Like one or two of them played up the guest aspect, but it was pretty much everybody else acting like normal people and then him being way over the top weird, which in a comedy horror would be perfect. Like again, committed to the role. It was just fit different genre.
Yeah, that's it kind of makes me. It makes me curious if Alan Cumming is like that in was it like Traders or something like that. Yeah, there's that which I haven't watched yet, but he always comes across very like extra theatrical in the little clips I've seen, and I wonder if it's if there's like a similar situation going on there because I haven't seen the show, so I don't.
Know if it's like that or if he's just goofy like mikey Day and Is It Cake, which has a holiday four part series which was delightful. I watched that. I watched Dancing with finished Dancing with the Stars, I finished Vox Macana. All of those are great, highly recommend.
How emotional did you get for Vox Makana?
Not too bad?
Okay? Okay?
And Critical Role just released the Twelve Days of Grog Miss Little music video, which is hilarious.
I do not know about this, but I will be checking it out after the record.
Share with you. I started watching Chaos, which is the got canceled after one season Jeff Bloom play on Greek mythology.
Mythology set in modern day, an alternate version of modern day Greece.
Yeah. Yeah, the first episode was delightful. The rest of it is still very good, but has gotten much much darker.
Yeah, I only saw the first one. I remember, Oh, why can't I remember the actress's name? She played Cassandra and Chaos. She was Rose in Doctor.
Who Oh, Billy Piper.
Billy Piper. I remember. I remember seeing her and thinking, oh, this was not the kind of character I was expecting her to play.
Yeah yeah, so like again, I think it's really great. I love the play that they're doing. It just it gets very dark, but if you think about it real Greek mythology, it's incredibly dark, very true, incredibly dark. But I'm enjoying that. I just that's that's a preface. I realized that, you know, I'm part of the problem because I didn't watch it when it first came out, But they also didn't advertise it for it, like, the advertising doesn't match the show's tone to me.
Yeah, yeah, I think the advertising was there to try and intrigue people, but the downside of that was it didn't give you an accurate representation of what the show was like. So then when people did tune in, they were like, oh, this isn't what I was expecting, and then they bounced yeah.
And then I watched a whole bunch of wicked TikTok and through that learned about Swept Away, and then immediately learned that it's closing next week, which is sad.
Oh yeah, Swept Away, that's a from what I understand, that's a pretty emotionally intense show.
Which is probably why it's closing and hasn't got found its huge audience. But they've their TikTok game is delightful.
So you haven't seen Wicked, You've just seen a lot of Wicked clips, Yeah, like or like people doing the loathing dance over and over again.
Yes, I had one of my house guests because we had a couple of teenagers with us wanted to see it and we just couldn't find time to fit in a two and a half hour movie.
Film.
Yeah, I do intend to see it, and I do intend to see Red Ones. Still, it just hasn't happened yet. But yes, I I too have tried to learn the Christopher Scott Loathing dance and dancing through life because he is more like that. Honestly, the choreography is what has made me excited for the movie. I like, I've not seen the entire play. I've seen some like slime tutorials, and I've not read the book. But I am, you know, very familiar with the story. But Christopher Scott, so I understand where part two is gonna go. Christopher Scott's choreography is so inspired and perfect for each of the characters.
That it's just it's it's incredibly athletic too, like the ensemble. When I watched I saw. I haven't seen the film. I've seen the stage show multiple times. I don't know that. I like, I don't feel a strong draw to see the movie, which people will tell me I'm crazy for that, because everyone who all of our friends who have seen it have raved about it. But I don't know. It just hasn't really like, it hasn't inspired me to go make time and see it in the theater. I probably will, but like, I don't feel that draw. But I will say that the bits I have seen of people doing that choreography, I have been so impressed with the athleticism required because like this is I watched that and I'm just like man to think of how many takes they must have had to do and how exhausting that looks.
It's phenomenal that I mean, much like Beetlejuice when I went to see it on Broadway. That is kind of what's drawing me to see the movie. It wasn't the story. I like the Wizard of Oz and the Wicked story is just fine, although you know, a little a little bittersweet from my liking makes sense, But yeah, the choreography being so athletics, so inspired, the fact that so many of the actors did their own stunts. Uh, because they did. Cynthia Evo did most of her own stunts.
Yeah, she was. She was singing defying gravity while in a harness being flung around the soundstage.
Yeah. And Jonathan Bailey, I think, is a guy who plays Fiero. He might have gotten that name wrong from Richerton. He got strapped into a device and sings while going upside down and then right side up. Like, Yeah, that takes a lot of add muscles. That's hard.
Yeah. No, they from a from a performance standpoint, it's absolutely incredible. I just I don't know. Maybe maybe I would really dig it, but I almost feel like I've grown out of Wicked. So this happens to me with musicals all the time, where I will go through a phase where I really like a musical and then at some point it's usually very organic, so I can't point to a single like instance or time or whatever, but at some point I'll just be like, yeah, I used to like that, but I don't really care for it anymore. So like Phantom would be an example where I loved it when I was a kid, I can barely stomach it now. Lame is another example. There's a show that I loved as a teenager and then as an adult, I find it very tiresome. But like like Wicked kind of falls into that category too. Like I loved Wicked when I first saw it, and I still like some of the songs, But I don't know, I don't know that I would actually even go see a stage show version of it again now unless it was like with people I knew who were going to be really hyped for it, and then I'm really seeing it so I can observe their reactions more than the show.
Yeah, yeah, I get that, you know, Rent, I never grew into.
But oh my god, Rent, No, Rent can go okay, this is a family show. Rent, Rent can go flip itself?
Yeah, I mean again, I I you know, I had an interesting childhood. I started working full time pretty early so and going to school full time, but my choice. But you know, and as an artist, I'm like, you can. You can pay your rent and still do your art well.
And I also felt that that Benny, up until the point where he he puts Mimi in a terrible position, until he does that, Benny's actually the good guy in that show.
Yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot of people I know feel that way. A lot of artists I know honestly feel that way, and that's in no way to I know that paying right right now, especially right now, is exceptionally hard. So this is not making light of artists who do.
Struggle, but at least some of the characters in that show appear to be coming from money, and that like part of their self identity is that they have thrown off the shackles of mom and dad, who, by the way, as the show goes on, they leave messages that make it sound like they just love and support their kids. Oh, screw you, mom and Dad. And I'm like, hey, I know people who actually had horrible childhoods and really serious family trauma. So for this show to be like, all these artists are really self righteous and they don't want to pay rent, and they're real mad at mom and dad, who appear to only want the best for them, I'm like, screw you.
I Also, I'm also one of the few people where my favorite song from Rent is Seasons of Love.
Oh gosh, oh, I hate that song. No, my favorite. My favorite is one song Glory, which is a song about writing a song except the song that the guy writes ends up not being nearly as good as the song about writing the song. Yeah, yeah, it might as well have been tribute Tenacious D. All Right, well, let me talk a little bit about the stuff I saw. Yes, I saw Heredic, which is the thriller slash horror movie that Hugh Grant was in. Hugh Grant plays a character who has expressed interest in the Church of Latter day Saints, and two female missionaries go to call on him in an effort to convert him to the Church of Mormon, and then ends up being that the two women are they discover that they're being held against their will. They don't know it at first, they just get uneasy. They try to leave and find that they can't, and then Hugh Grant goes on to mansplain religion to them for the next hour and a half while they try to figure out a way to escape it. Actually, like, I really like this movie. It's gonna sound like I Yeah, it's gonna sound like I didn't because I've got I've got a lot of critical things to say, But I actually really liked it, and I love Hugh Grant's performance. I thought he was perfect but I also recognize things that I do in Hugh Grant's character, and it made me feel real bad about myself.
Yeah.
So, like, one of the things he does is he explains things through analogies, and so do I like tech stuff. If you listen to tech stuff, you've heard me explain things through analogies. Heck, if you've listened long enough, you've heard the same analogy used like twenty times. But Hugh Grant does it where he explains the concept using analogies, and he explains the exact same concept using two different analogies, but it's the exact same thing. Like in one he's talking about how he's essentially talking about how religions are all copies off of older religions essentially, So like he does this one way by comparing Judaism, Christianity, and then the Church of Latter day Saints with different versions of monopoly, right, Like he does that, but he also talks about he plays the air that I breathed by the Hollies. All I need is the air that breathe that song, and he says, you've heard this even if you don't know, you've heard it, because it's the same chord progression used in Radiohead's Creep, and in fact, the Hollies or members of the Hollies sued Radiohead for copyright infringement and ultimately were added on to the writing credits for Creep. Then he says, and then oh, I can't remember who it was, but someone else made a song. It was a much more recent artist, which is why I don't know, because I'm an old man and I'm out of touch. But much more recent artists made a song that also has the same chord progression, and Radiohead sued her, which is funny because Radiohead had already been sued by the Hollies.
So I don't know if it's this artist. I think, Was it Dosha Cat who made an entire album that is sampling other people's famous works?
No, I think, But it turns out like there's tons of videos online about this particular like legal case, this interesting legal case of the Radiohead ends up suing this other artist for copyrighted in fringement, which is interesting because Radiohead itself had been sued for that exact same thing by the Hollies, and there are lots of other songs that have the same chord progression by.
The way, Dua Lipa does have the remix album, but I don't see Radiohead on the list.
Yeah, no, it's this was not a remix. This was a new original song, but it had the same not just the same chord progression, but a very same similar melodic line, like her melodic line sounds very similar to Radioheads creep. So anyway, Herodic's great. I highly recommend it. The ending is somewhat enigmatic, like it's kind of hard to say exactly what happens by the end of it, but I think that's fine because that's the way a lot of horror slash thrillers end. Like there's still questions. No, I don't think it's too there's some stuff in it that you would probably hide your eyes when it happens. There's some icky stuff in there. Not a lot, but there's some. I don't think it's too scary for you. I thought it was interesting, and I thought it also was a great film showing how scary it is to be a woman in the presence of a man. Okay, right, like to me like that because Hugh Grant, like at first is coming across as maybe a little sinister because strange man around women, but mostly harmless, and that that dial starts to move slowly as he has this conversation with the two young women. Also, the two young women both the actors were former Church of Latter Day Saints members.
Interesting.
Yeah, so definitely recommend it. I thought it was fascinating. The theater I went to was it wasn't full, but there were quite a few other people there, and it was a smaller theater. It was like the tiniest of the theater because all the other theaters were given over to Wicked at that point.
You know, I'm still happy to see theaters fill back up a little bit.
Yeah, I'll be talking about that in thirty seconds or less. And the other the other thing I've been keeping up with is what we do in the Shadows and watching their final season and a much easier to do now that I've got Hulu. But finally New Girl. Yeah, okay, well it's on the list, but the list wait till we get to our what's coming out in twenty twenty five list. Yeah, so what we do in the Shadows? You know what, I'll say this, I like, I've enjoyed the episodes I've watched, but I don't feel that the ones I've seen have been quite as strong as previous seasons. But I hear that there's an episode I haven't seen yet that is among the series' best episodes total, So I look forward to seeing that once I get to it.
Yeah, yeah, I need. I need to catch up on what we do in the Shadows. It's I have to be in the right mood for that kind of humor because sometimes it's very clever and sometimes it's a little blue. But also it's it's a little dry for Tony, it doesn't really grab him. So it's one of the shows I have to watch on my own.
Becca and I like, that's one of the shows that I'm not allowed to watch unless Becca's there. Unless I'm watching old episodes that we've already seen, that's okay, but I can't watch anything new.
I also watched because we put up our Christmas tree a couple days ago, we watched Emma Otter's joke Band Christmas.
Yeah, that's a classic. So let me ask you, this was Kermit in it or not?
Yes?
Oh wow, yeah, because there are a lot of cuts of him and Otter where they cut Kermit out, And I always complain about this because in the process of cutting out Kermit, I think it was a thing where it was a rights issue, right, like the rights to emit Otter went to one company and Kermit and the Muppets went to a different company, So you couldn't have Kermit up here in it is my guess, I mean, who knows. But for the longest time there was a cut of im at order where there's a joke that depends upon a specific line being said, but because Kermit was in the background, they would cut that line, but they kept the reaction of another character to that line, so it made no sense. Which is where Emmett and his mom are in the row boat and Missus Fox is being super snooty to them, and Emmitt's mom is trying to say something to missus Fox, and Missus Fox has already stopped listening, and she's walking away, and she's say, if you would just walk off the dock, you know, like she's just saying, like I say, go go take a long walk off a short peer essentially, and then one of the other characters like, hey, that's telling her Alice, Well, they cut out the part where she says walk off the dock, and they kept that that's telling her, Alice, but that's telling her what she literally didn't say anything.
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
I love that special though. It's it's a special place in my heart.
I do too. Sadly, we watched it right after National Lampoon's Christmas vacation. I've never been a National Lampoon fan myself. Yeah, I just never. I never watched it growing up, but it is It's like Tony's one of Tony's get get in the Holiday spirit shows because he did watch it growing up, and it's it's fine enough, not everything ages super well in it, but it is a little bit of a whiplash to go from that to emmett Otter.
Yeah, because em Otter is like sincere to a fault. Yeah yeah yeah. The River Bottom Nightmare Gang is about as edgy as they get. Yeah, it's funny to hear, like it's essentially the voice of Fozzy the Bear coming out of the leader of that group, and it's so weird to see Fozzy the Bear as a heavy I mean, it's not Fozzy the Bear, but it's it's Frank Oz's voice.
But yeah, especially if you are at any point distracted and just listening to it for sure.
Yeah, well, there we go. That's what we've watched. And now that we're almost forty minutes into our episode, we can talk about thirty seconds or less.
Well, this part will be only a few minutes. So yeah, I start, Oh yeah, I'm gonna watch Skeleton Crew this weekend. It's go happen. I say that because my first story is about the Mandalorian. They're releasing a four K Ultra high definition physical version of it, or they just have. They did on December third, and one of the things they include is a tribute to Carl Weathers, who was in it as he passed away. So that's pretty cool. You can watch a little bit of it on Collider's website. I love when streaming shows get a physical release because that way you aren't beholden to the streaming service keeping it for you to enjoy it for years to come. So this is pretty cool.
And we can call that foreshadowing because my first story is that Warner Brothers Discovery continues to twist the knife on fans as we learned about cartoon series that will be leaving the streaming service Max next year. Those shows include ed Ed and Eddie the twenty three eighteen Titans series, Green Lantern Animated series, the twenty eleven Loony Tunes show, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, and Static Shock. They're all scheduled to get dumped once again. Streaming services giveth and they taketh away.
In a bit of whiplash like you could get in a women's wrestling show. Betty Gilpin is going from cartoons to Glow. Is taking over for Cole Escalat in O Mary on Broadway, which is a very comedic story from the viewpoint of Mary Top Lincoln. Betty Gilpin was on Glow and Missus Davis and she will be doing the role January twenty first, twenty twenty five through March sixteenth, and then somebody else will be taking over, probably because they're actually going through June and Darry cool Well.
Character actor extraordinaire Walton Goggins recently shared a picture of him in the makeup chair from the second season of Fallout. Goggins plays the character of the Ghoul. Presumably he spends an awful lot of time in that chair, but he very clearly, through the use of some very gruff language, shared that he wouldn't have it any other way now, because this is a family show. I will not quote him, but I will paraphrase him, and he said, golly, it's nice to be back.
I am so excited. I loved the first season. I can't wait for season two. See something I didn't love as much but a lot of people did was season one of Wednesday on Netflix. But season two has wrapped. We've gotten some first images from it, and interestingly, Jenna Ortega, who plays Wednesday, has taken over some producer type roles, so she's rewriting lines and adjusting the story how she thinks fits her character. Some of the things that they've done is they've made it a little darker for season two, leaning a little bit more into the horror, and they've gotten rid of any romantic love interest for Wednesday, which is kind of cool.
Yeah, she doesn't need it well. Paget Brewster will be starring in a sci fi mystery podcast series in the Audible. It's called The Signal, which interestingly is also the title of a horror film I was an extra in, but this series is not related to that movie. Instead, it's about a mystery surrounding disappearing data from space telescopes. And what might be the cause, and it almost like a pretty cool idea with lots of conspiracy theory stuff going on. It'll be interesting to listen to Paget play a serious character and not a socialite who consistently pronounces words in very weird ways.
It'll it'll be weird but fun. The creators of Evangelian and I think it's pronounced fully coolly fl cl are coming out with a new Gundam anime called It's spelled gq You you you you you u X.
I'm sorry, I'm just thinking about how I would try and pronounce that.
It's pronounced the gee quacks g quacks qu But it's yeah. It's about these teenagers in a high school who live in outer space and do like these clan fights in mecha suits. I will say one of the tip I've had some of my friends say that there's not a lot that really harkens to Evangelian, But the character designer for this new one from g Quax is from Evangelian, and I can tell because the mech looks very similar to an evasuit. And then also one of the main characters looks very much like Asuka from Evangelian but I think it looks really cute.
Well, there's a new poster for the third season of the Wheel of Time series. But since I've never read those books, nor have I watched the series, I don't understand the significance. So I'm just gonna describe it to you. So there's a guy with really close cropped hair, and he's carrying a woman through a desert landscape, and there's lots of spears sticking up out of the sand with the pointy bits up in the air, so they clearly weren't thrown because that the pointy bits would be down in the sand. I'm not sure what's going on, but it's a nifty poster.
Awesome. He also got a new trailer. I watched the first two seasons. I can explain it better than most of my friends and what happened, And I've never read the books. But I also am not like chomping at the bit to c season three, Doctor Who the Christmas Special came out with a trailer. The trailer looks great. It's got a lot of fun actors, including Nikola Coughlin in it. It looks kind of like a fun zadied Whibbly wobbly sort of an episode. However, there are some I don't know if you would call them internet trolls, because I kind of vaguely had this thought too. There are some people who are like, oh my gosh, the doctor's crying again, because he's cried almost every episode and that makes it lose its poignancy. And I kind of feel the same way. But also, if the actor wants to cry, let him cry. Maybe I'm just jelly.
Yeah, So this is what you were talking about when we were having that discussion about crying versus trying to look like you're holding back tears. All right, last one, Molana two and Wicked pulled a heck of a cop at the box office this past weekend and had an assist from Gladiator too, which made the Thanksgiving holiday weekend take a really firm one for the film industry, and it gave them something to be thankful for. Domestic revenue topped four hundred and twenty five million dollars that breaks even pre COVID records for the Thanksgiving holiday weekend box office year over year. However, revenues are still down for the film industry. There is some hope that the last push through December will close the gap. Who knows, maybe Craven the Hunter will do it.
Yeah. I actually got really irritated at a news article online because they were like the they titled it this is clickbaity headlines. I hate they titled it the animation industry is in trouble. But the article was about how well like recent animation stuff has done at the box office, and so I was like, you're just being a butt.
Yeah, like your story is literally saying the opposite of what your headline claims.
Yeah.
Oh.
And then Jenna Ortego walks off the set of Wednesday, and the story was because they've.
Wrapped Yeah, because if she's stayed there, they'd be like, what's going on? I got nowhere else to go.
We can't pay you for staying on set when we aren't filming.
Now, this isn't a real house. You need to leave, all right. So now let's talk about some of the stuff that's coming out next year. This is not an exhaustive list. It's a long one, but it doesn't have everything on it. And I just want to get from Ariel what she thinks and whether she's excited or not. Some of these are going to be things that will be like a second or third or whatever season of a show, and if you haven't watched them, that's totally legit. I think the first one's going to be that case, which is I did these by chronological order, with all the t b D like the ones that haven't yet been slated at the end. So at the beginning. We've got Severance season two on Apple TV that comes out January seventeenth, twenty twenty five.
I'm excited to watch the first season of that so I can be excited for the second season.
I loved the show. I loved it. It is weird. It is a weird show. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If I'm being totally honest. It's got sort of a dreamlike quality to it. And I am so excited to finally see the second season.
I was super I watched all of legions so I can do weird dream.
Like Yeah, this one just well, anyway, you'll you'll have to we'll have to talk about it after you've seen it and kind of get your thoughts on it. Okay, how about Your Friendly neighborhood spider Man, which comes out January twenty ninth, twenty twenty five. This is an animated series.
Yes, yes, very much. I have live. Unlike a lot of series where the ogs were more my thing, Spider Man is one where the more stuff they come out with the better.
Again, yeah, animated, as I understand it this version. Spider Man's mentor is Norman Osborne in this one. It's like an alternate because one of the multiverse kind of things. Which that's an interesting take, all right. How about Captain America Brave New World comes out Valentine's Day?
Well, talk about the second trailer. I want to be excited about it. The tonal shift, even within the trailer kind of is jarring to me.
I'm excited about it because it's making me think Captain America The Winter Soldier like. It's given me feels that are similar to what that movie was all about. And that's my That's still I think my favorite. That might still be my favorite Marvel film. I'd really have to think about it, but it might be still my favorite. So I'm hopeful that this will be in that same category. How about Paddington in Peru also comes out Valentine's.
Day, Yes, but I won't see it in theaters.
Okay, so then we know that if you're going to a movie on Valentine's Day, it's going to be Captain America.
Okay, so oh, most definitely, if I go to a movie on Valentine's Day, it's going to be Captain America. That feels so romantic.
Yeah, yeah, You're going to just be looking at at Captain America and the Red Hulk going kiss, kiss kiss.
I guess that's the problem for me is the first half of the trailer. We'll talk about it now because you asked that'll cut back on later stuff. The first half of the trailer feels more like Jack Ryan, and then the second half feels like they threw in a third act giant villain again.
Which could be the case. Like we've talked about this a lot about how antagonists and villains in Marvel have been consistently one of their weakest efforts. Right, There's only a few villains who have really stood apart and like kill My being one of them, for example, But a lot of the villains end up being essentially a copy of whoever the hero is but bad. How about the Snow White live action film which comes out March twenty First, we have a trailer about this too that we'll talk about.
Yeah, I'll just say no, I'm not excited about that. We too want to talk about the trailer.
I will also say no, I'm not excited, and yes, we will talk about this, because why are you making new songs? All right?
No, that's that's not my problem with it.
But also yes, it's it's just one of many new problems I have with it. But honestly, one of my problems not the casting. That's not my issue. Well maybe maybe Galgadot for the Evil Queen, but that's that's not our here there. Okay, how about Daredevil Born Again that comes out March twenty. Okay, you're excited for that one? Yes, gottcha.
Even the bad seasons of Daredevil I enjoyed on Netflix.
So yeah, I still need to watch season three. I realize I had watched the first two, but I never watched the third one, so I need to do that.
So Daredevil, Oh sorry, not Daredevil, Deadpool and Wolverine. The spoiler if you haven't watched it yet, tune out for the next ten seconds. I think did better with elektra than season three of Daredevil, but that's okay.
All right, well, all right, how about a Minecraft movie April fourth, twenty twenty five.
Now we'll talk about that trailer too, But now I'm not super.
Yeah, this is more than that was the no answers are giving you prequel or a prelude to our discussion about these trailers when we get into them. All right, how about and or season two April twenty second.
I have to finish season one.
I haven't watched it, so I got burnt out on Star Wars.
Later in the season, it does get better as things start to move, Like there was one or two episodes on these are really good, and now I'm like, eh, I forgot that I need to finish. I was like, I'm five episodes in and I'm done now, No, I thought I was done. If I was done with it, I'd be like, hey, cot there, yeah, okay.
How about Thunderbolts May fifth? Eh, really, I might be a little marveled out, that's fair. That's how I am with Star Wars. But I say Thunderbolts I felt was one of the stronger Like the most recent Thunderbolts trailer, I feel is one of the stronger trailers that Marvel has put out recently I felt I do feel met about a different Marvel property that's on this list.
I mean, so when Marvel and Dizzy brought out the trailer of all the Marvel stuff coming out, I was pretty excited about a lot of it. Thunderbolts looks fine. I love much of the casting. I just the story hasn't grabbed me yet, and I'm sure, like Wicked and many other things, once I watch it, I will quite enjoy it.
Yeah, all right, Well how about the live action Lelo and Stitch which comes out May.
Yes? Interesting, Yeah, I really changed my tune on this one.
Yeah, I think my tune. My tune is still is still the meh, But I mean.
I don't think it's necessary, but I think it'll it'll land better for me than a lot of the live action action.
Okay, yeah, because like I am really not excited about live action Mowana, let me tell you I'm not.
But the little the actor, the actor who plays Lelo is so precociously cool.
Okay, Well, maybe I just need to take another look at the trailer and have my heart melt like honestly.
She's not in the teaser, she's it's interviews.
I've seen on some gotcha, Yeah, because the teasers just him smashing a sand castle, right, yeah, And of course, like Stitch in the live action Lelo and Stitch looks more or less like Stitch from the animated because I mean he's a CGI character. He's just a CGI version of an animated character.
So yeah, but I well, we can talk about it now and take it out of our lineup if you want. It's in our lineup. Okay, So the leload Stitches or he just he smashes a sand castle that looks like the Disney Castle and then he licks the screen. I think it works because I'm going to leave it in our lineup for show notes, but we can skip it when we get there. I think it works because Stitch is not a lion or a poodle or a human being that has to realistically evoke realism. It's it's already a made up creature. So yeah, I think that hit him and CGI works a heck of a lot better than a lot of their other stuff.
Right where you talk about the live action Lion King and you're like, what's live action about this? Shot? It? You shot it against actual settings, but all the characters are computer animated.
And maybe because maybe because I haven't seen Stitch interact with people, this is the reason. But it's not giving me Uncanny Valley again, because what is a stitch actually supposed to look like?
Yeah, it'll be the question will be how realistic does that interaction look once we get to that those clips, because like, like I think back to who framed Roger Rabbit and it was phenomenal, what a good job they did making the rabbit appear to have a physical presence in the environment. But then there are other ones where like it's human beings interacting with cartoons and you never get the sense that these two things were literally in the same space at the same time.
Yeah, heck, half the time it's a superhero jumping up a building wall and it doesn't look like he's actually interacting with a building wall.
Craven oh yeah, oh yeah. Or the end of every Marvel movie, right like once you get to the big fight at the end, it just becomes a PlayStation game. Yeah, all right, Well, how about this one Mission Impossible the final Reckoning comes up May twenty third. Yeah, same, I haven't seen the other ones.
Yeah, I've seen like two mission impossibles, not the first two.
I've seen the first one, and I've seen one of the brad Bird ones, which I thought was quite good. But I do feel that all the Mission Impossible movies typically have the same plot, which is, someone else, either within our own organization or a similar US organization, is trying to kill us. That's who the bad guy is. It's our own side spoiler. That's like for every mission, to the point where you're like, why do we even have these organizations? All they're doing is trying to kill each other. How about Karate Kid Legends?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Ralph Maccio's in that one.
Even if I in, so is Shiaki Chan. Even if I weren't excited about this, I would have to be excited about this. But I am genuinely excited about it.
Okay, well that made sense. How about how about Alio the next Pixar film June thirteenth.
I think it looks really cute.
It does look really cute. That's the one where a little kid gets abducted by aliens who then mistakenly believe him to be a representative of all of Earth.
I shared the trailer with one of my friends and they said, oh, that could be irritating or upsetting or done poorly if they don't lean on something the right way. And I don't know what they were talking about, because it just looks adorable to me.
Yeah, maybe they're just talking about how child abduction in general is a tough Maybe. I'm I'm like, I've seen so many movies that start with a kid getting accidentally snatched up, and I'm like, that's like a standard of the Navigator. Yeah, yeah, I drawn to this all right. How about How to Train Your Dragon the live action film in June thirteenth.
It looks for a shot for shot remake. It looks beauty again. It looks beautifully done in a way that it doesn't give me too much Uncanny Valley, and we do get to see the people and the dragons interact. I think the casting is exceptional, don't. I'm torn on this one because I think it looks really pretty and I think that everybody's investment and love for the property that is involved in it really helps me like that that provides excitement, right, But yeah, I like the original movie, but I've seen the original movie.
So yeah, this doesn't look like it does anything new with the material. Like you said, it looks it looks shot for shot the same. And that's the issue I have. It's like, why would I see Gus Van santz Psycho film, which is a shot for shot remake of the Hitchcock film. I could just watch the Hitchcock film.
Yeah. Now, like again, maybe that's the first trailer. Maybe the first trailer is to bring in the people who love the original property. You know a lot of kids will see that and go I love How to Train Your Dragon, my nieces and my niece and nephews, for example. Maybe the second trailer will show that they've brought something new in.
Yeah. I think maybe the second trailer will convince people to buy ticket to Orlando's Epic Universe so they can go ride all the How to Train Your Dragon ride. There.
There's a water ride in Universal does water ride's the best?
There's a water ride, there's a roller coaster, and there's a drag a flying dragon ride.
There's also a dragon drone which is really cool. Yeah, it doesn't break.
Down, y'all. I gotta tell you, I'm looking forward to going to Epic Universe as long as I can avoid the Harry Potter stuff.
Yes, yes, Amen, All right.
How about twenty eight years later June twentieth zombie movie.
I mean, I liked twenty eight Days and twenty I liked twenty eight Days Later a lot because I thought it was more suspenseful than horrific for the most part.
Really really scary movie though.
Yeah, really scary, but the kind of scary that I can do.
Also, that was the movie that introduced me to Killian Murphy, and holy cow, that guy is a phenomenal actor.
Really is. Wasn't Christopher Ergleston also in that?
He was in Children of Men? The movie that you love so much.
Was Christopher Egleston and Children of Men? Yeah, I have blocked that out of my memory. Hold on, he was, like I thought he was in either twenty seven, twenty eight days or twenty eight weeks later.
Now he might be in He might be in twenty eight weeks later.
I have to.
I'm wrong though. I'm wrong though, because I'm mixing. I'm mixing him up with Clive Owen.
So okay, yeah, I would saying he was not in twenty he was not in Children of Men? He was, however, in twenty eight Days Later?
Was he was he the soldier?
Yes?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Okay, this is the reason where this is where we once again gently remind our listeners that I did have a near stroke this year and my brains are all messed up.
No, that's look, I have no excuse, and I'm just as bad. Yeah. I like twenty eight days later. I think I enjoyed twenty eight weeks later, but I don't remember much about it, so I haven't seen enough about twenty eight years later. But if it's as good as the first two, I will enjoy it.
Cool. How about iron Heart? This is the other Marvel Disney Plus series about Rary Williams.
Yeah, yeah, what.
If I were to tell you Sasha Baron Cohen is in this series, and he's rumored to play a certain character who's been teased in two other Disney Plus series and became an obsessive part of fandom, and maybe that's who he's playing.
He's playing.
Mephisto.
He's playing magical mister Mistopheles.
That's the rumor is he's Mephisto, but there's no there's no confirmation on that. I think also it would be weird that that would be iron Heart where he shows up as Mephisto.
I think that would be good casting from a fisto. I don't like Borat, but he was really good in Limis. But I again weird for Ironheart. I think the actress is fine in that I think I think that that character development was so rushed in Black Panther two, which was I didn't dislike Black Panther two. I'm in the minority of that. I thought it was a perfectly fine movie. I just I felt like it wasn't the strongest introduction for the character. So they've got a little bit of ground to recover.
Yeah, especially since it's been so long since Wakanda Forever. Right Like, if Ironheart had come out six months nine months after Wakanda Forever, then that might have been really great timing. But this, this feels like they've lost a lot of momentum.
Honestly, I think it, and I realized that this maybe couldn't have happened, But I think iron not should have come out beforehand.
Yeah, maybe, because that way you wouldn't be introducing a brand new hero character at the same time you're introducing a new antagonist and also having to establish a new Black Panther. All right, Well, how about Megan two point zero June twenty seventh. Oh, come on, not even if she does another viral TikTok dance.
I that's the only thing I've seen of Meghan.
Yeah, it's really the only thing worth seeing a Meghan in my opinion, I've seen the movie. I'm like, this is fine. It's a it's a very by the numbers horror movie. Like it doesn't do anything surprising that dance, which by the way, makes no sense in the context of the movie. There's no reason for her to do it, Like, it literally makes no sense. It's just done to be a marketing thing. But it was the most effective moment in that film.
There are other movies about Ai that hit a similar vein that I have been more excited for. Can I name any of them at this exact moment?
And no. If you want to see a movie that has a very similar energy to Megan but I think is a better movie, go see Annabelle okay or Abigail Abigail's whichever one's thought about the little girl who's a vampire.
Yeah, yeah, it's Abigail's.
Annabel's the doll. Annabel's the doll. See here's the thing, guys. Earlier this year, I don't know if you know this, but I had my brain strampled.
John, you already told us that.
Shoot, well here's the reason I keep telling you that. So earlier this year, I had my brain scrambled.
Okay, a little bit of ASMR that people probably will hate.
You've already told us that. Fair enough.
No, it was funny because I was watching After Midnight last night with Oscar Montoya and I can't remember her name, and I can't remember Chris Flumming, and one of the opening remarks was it was an old episode. One of the opening remarks was about how you don't want They were talking about Elon Musk's androids.
Oh yeah, the robots, Yeah, the robots.
Yes, yeah, And they were talking about how like you don't want kids to become attached to that, and they used Megan as a reference, and I'm like, no, no, I didn't watch Megan, but I did really get attached to the Electric Grandmother.
So, which, by the way, still to me is a creepy little made for TV movie.
It is. It is heartfelt but also incredibly creepy. Yeah, like incredibly it's scary at points.
Lightly it kind of makes me miss that era where children's programming could be kind of scary at times, Like I like, I like children's programming that has a bit of an edge and doesn't treat children like they are precious little fabrige eggs and if you do anything that is remotely tense, there will they'll they'll just crumble into a billion pieces. Because I'm proof that doesn't happen.
It was. It was scary at points because you didn't know what was going to happen, and also like there were some some sad bits too, but it wasn't sinister ever.
No, the unsettling, I think is a good word for some of it. Yeah. That was one of my favorite made for TV movies as a kid. Well, okay, let's get back to our list. How about Jurassic World Rebirth on July second.
Yeah, but I feel like I need to watch the.
First one first, don't you mean the first few? Yeah? I have more than one Jurassic worlds. Yes, there's like three.
So I thought Rebirth was the cartoon about the kids who got left on the island.
And this is Jurassic World. Rebirth is a new live action Jurassic World movie. Yeah.
Nope, I take it back. Nope.
Yeah, I'm same here, all right. How about Superman July eleventh, Yes, yeah, tentative, Yes for me. I mean, obviously we haven't seen any trailers or anything, but I trust James Gunn, so I do.
I it'll be interesting because uh Snyder's version in Man of Steel was this nice guy who kind of fell into the cynicism of the world, right, which is not super Superman. James Gunn still has a cynical world, but he wants Superman to be the hero. I think the cast is phenomenal. They are introducing a lot of characters, which I felt like in Black Adam and Suicide Squad was a little rough, but James Gunn has done that well before. And then there are personal reasons I can't talk about that. I want to see it.
So so Ariel knows people who are in the movie, is what she said. Okay, so probably the I mean, yes, that's what it means.
I mean, I certainly know in the movie. Because we live in Atlanta, I know a lot of actors.
She may know victims three through seventeen. We don't know.
That is entirely possible.
Yeah, we're not saying that she knows Superman's best buddy or anything. I don't.
I don't and if I did, I wouldn't know.
And you know, as much as I advocated for Timblet to be cast as Crypto, it didn't happen. So he's not Superman's dog.
I wanted to be Lex Luthor, but you have to shave your head and I refuse.
Yeah, and plus, it was conflicting your desire to be the thing, which.
Is a totally different I would rather be the thing.
Which which we already know you're not. So yeah, all right. How about how about the Smurfs movie comes out July eighteenth? Okay, how about how about the Fantastic Four First Steps? That's July twenty fifth. By the way, how about same for both smurf I don't care about this smurst movie. I obviously am very curious about the Fantastic Four, even though it's gonna have like multiverse energy going on. We already know that because it's set in a alternate version of Earth from the rest of the Marvel films. Presumably they get pulled over into the main version of the Marvel Earth by the end of it. Maybe that's what their first steps are. It's their first steps into the.
New I love the pleasant Ville vibes that they're toying with.
So yeah, I can't wait to see a trailer. Yeah, is what comes down to. How about the Naked Gun reboot? When leam Neeson on August first.
Hmm, undecided, fair enough. I like, I was never a huge fun of the naked fan of the Naked Gun movies. There there is a low level of Hey, I know this is happening before other people, before it's made the news channels. It makes me a little bit excited about it.
So I I loved a Police Squad, which was the TV series that inspired that that came out before Naked Gun. Did same characters, same team that made it. That series to me was brilliant. It also didn't last very long at all. There's like, I don't know, like six episodes or something. I don't know how I feel about this. Then again, Leslie Nielsen was known as a dramatic actor rather than a comedic actor before he started doing stuff like Police Squad and Make a Gun an Airplane. So maybe maybe it'll be great, but I'll I'll need to see more before I can make a call. Meanwhile, Ariel's seeing that I'm being beamed into utter space because sunlight. Sunlight is coming through my window.
It's fine, you're You're about to become the thing, and I'm gonna be incredibly jealous.
I thought I was becoming like a jj Abrams Star Trek movie from Lenz Flair.
I mean, maybe are you made of red matter?
I mean, who knows what? How how about Eyes of Wakanda, this is the animated series on Disney Plus. Okay, that's August sixth when that comes out. How about Marvel Zombies, which comes out October third?
Undecided?
I'm very excited for Marvel Zombies.
It's the two Marvel Zombies episodes we've gotten within what If have been very good. Yeah, I think it's two, but but I don't know if I need an entire series of it fair enough, howeverriendly.
How about tron Aries, which is supposed to come out October tenth me I'm curious. It's been enough time since Tron Legacy that I've forgotten how boring that movie is that I might be able to be able to watch it. I love moments in tron Legacy. There are moments in that movie that are some of my favorite imagery, and like Michael Shehan's performance as like the club owner in Tron Legacy is amazing, very David Bowie love that, But then the rest of that movie is just kind of I mean, the original Tron is also a bit of a slog if we're being honest.
But yeah, I mean, so the problem is I saw Tron Legacy. Well, first of all, it was over ten years ago, but I saw it the night before I got on a Joco cruise, so it kind of got overshadowed.
Ah, gotcha, how about get back to my list? Predator bad Lands November seven.
Sure, I still have to see Prey, but yeah, yeah.
I need to see Prey too. Honestly, there are more Predator movies that I have not seen than there are that I have seen, because I've only seen the first two and I've only seen the second one once.
They do not all hold up at all. But Pray apparently was very good. Or Eat Love Predator, is it right?
Or Poka Predator yeah, which sounds like a game you find at a carnival that you should not play. Hey, you want to come play Poka Predator? You know what? I like my limbs where they are, I will stay away.
I'm good.
How about Wicked Part two November twenty First, I know.
More than I was, but still less than to see Wicked Part one, just because I know how it kind of ends.
Also, I mean, we've talked about this. I've talked about this times. If you are familiar with the musical, there is no denying that all the real bangers, the really memorable songs are all on the front half of Wicked.
There's that love songs in the second.
Half, Yeah, that no one remembers the name of except for like Diehard theater kids.
It's a good song, though good.
But it doesn't it doesn't have the stickiness of like popular or low or what is this feeling? Or dancing through life?
So the problem is that spoiler again for people who listen who haven't read the book, the book has a very sad ending.
The book is far more cynical than the musical is.
The musical still doesn't have the happiest of endings in my opinion, And there's one character that doesn't have a happy ending who is one of my more favorite characters.
If you're talking about the sister, we know she doesn't have a happy ending. She's killed by a house dropped on her.
I'm talking about bach.
Oh no, his his ending's fine. We know what happens to him at the end of Wizard of Oz. He's good, is he though? Yeah, yeah, he's fine. He's fine. It's not happy, but okay, I mean better than the alternative? Uh?
True?
That is true. How about Zuotopia two, which comes out November twenty sixth, Not interested? Wow, that was quick.
I liked the first one. I don't need a second one.
I just rewatched the first one a couple of weeks ago. I was on the Disney Cruise and I watched it while on the Disney Cruise, And yeah, that movie is. That movie has got a lot of cute parts in it still kind of a weird like message going on through the whole thing. It flips around a lot. It makes me wonder what the point of Zootopia two will be.
Yeah, I just I just personally didn't like I liked the characters, but I didn't connect with any of them enough to want to know where I went from there.
Yeah. Well, at least it's not a movie about the sloth character, because that would last seventeen hours. All right. How about the wonder Man series, which comes out Okay, you're interested in that, Yes, even though it's not Nathan Fillion playing the main character.
Oh more, because it's not Nathan Phillian playing the no shade to Nathan Fillion, but uh yeah, I like. I like when they bring in not as used actors.
Yeah, the there is. There is some early footage stuff for this. We also get the return of Ben Kingsley as Trevor Slattery, the character from Iron Man.
Yeah, and also from Shaunch.
And Shaun che Yeah. So he's like, I wish that Madison would become the new Trevor right and start showing up in More. Like you just get Madison with two inins and a y, but it's not where you think showing up and like all sorts of stuff. So here's hoping that she does. Yeah, I'm holding out hope. All right. How about Avatar Fire and Ash December nineteenth. No, Yeah, have you seen any of the Avatar movies?
I saw the first one a whole bunch because I saw it with multiple people.
Huh.
I love the flights of passage righte Animal Kingdom. I just reaffirmed that last month.
That's the closest I've come to seeing an Avatar movie is the Flights of Passage. Right, I haven't seen any of the Avatar movies. Such a good ride. The ride is very well done, but I feel absolutely no connection with the environment or the characters, like none of them mean anything to me. Okay, we have now reached into the section where I've got some series, but they aren't specifically slated yet, so some of them may get slipped into late twenty twenty five, maybe even twenty twenty six. But here we go. Stranger Thing season five, Yes, cool, I still haven't seen anything after the first season. Black Mirror season seven.
Okay, I haven't seen anything past the second episode, and I skipped the first.
Yeah, that first episode is a doozy Okay, No, I don't recommend it. It really upset me. All right. Silo season two.
I haven't watched season one.
I hear it's good, but I haven't watched it either. Sandman season two No, No, okay, Sandman, I fell off of I didn't finish it. I should finish it. I watched probably six or seven episodes, but I didn't get all the way through the first season.
There were two episodes I absolutely loved, and I think book has both kind of dealt with death the character, yeah, who is by far the strongest character in the series.
Yeah, it's same is true in the comic book, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, and then and then I liked, but I liked Dead Boy Detectives better.
Okay, how about Fallout season two?
Yes?
Right, very excited for that one, especially if they end up going to New Vegas. That would be great. All right, Wednesday season two, maybe, maybe that's fair. Last of Us season two, Yes, this one's a tough one for me now.
Yes, No, I love the first season exception of that one episode so much.
Yes, the cannibal episode, that's the one that you had trouble with, Yeah, which is understandable. There's not just cannibalism, but also like sexual assault. Yeah, spoiler alert if you haven't seen The Last of U season one. That's a great, great series, Like it is heavy as hell, but the there were some incredible surprises in that show that still, to me mark like a high watermark for television as an art form that I don't think most other shows even come close to.
I fully agree, And at least season one put in enough moments of human connection that really really one gave you a chance to breathe within the series and also really made you more invested in the story and the characters than some other post apocalyptic shows have done.
Totally okay, And finally, we have Welcome to Derry, which would be a Stephen King mini series that explores the history of the town Dry which is the setting for it.
I really liked season one of Castle Rock, so.
Yes, interesting. I don't know that I care to learn anything more about the history of penny Wise. I think I'm cool.
Yeah, I don't penny Wise prequel I am not into, but I really liked Castle Rock, so if they could do something similar, I'd be for it.
Yeah. Castle Rock For those who do not know, Castle Rock was a fictional town in Stephen King's writings, and I say was because famously in his novel Needful Things, he blowed it up real good and on like he was like destroying the town that he had been using as a setting for multiple books. I want to say Koo Joe was set in Castle Rock, and several other stories and novels were set there. But yeah, Needful Things, the town destroys itself. Spoiler. If you haven't read Needful Things, a book that's like forty years old. But yeah, interesting, I don't know. I guess I'll have to wait a little bit longer to see more about Welcome to Darry before I make a determination about whether or not I want to see it. All right, those are all the series and movies that I had made note of. Again, not an exhaustive list. There are other ones out there that didn't touch on, but just to kind of get a temperature check of where we are. The biggest feeling I came away with is, holy crap, a lot of stuff is coming out next year.
Yeah, and I got to catch up on a lot of stuff.
Still, I know it's kind of like it kind of takes a little steam out of my engine, if I'm being honest, because I'm just like, oh my gosh, look at all the things I need. It's a great problem to have. Look at all the entertainment I have to get through.
Yeah, yeah, No, I love it, you know, from an acting standpoint, obviously, I love that there's a lot of stuff. I I guess this kind of ages me, but I miss the era of like new show season.
Like in September or whatever.
Yeah, or where everything had a time slot so you didn't you could make time for more things.
Yeah, like there is something to say. I mean, honestly, there's some shows that have chosen to publish week to week that I got kind of into the habit of watching them when they were coming out as if it were broadcast television. Agatha All Along was like that for me, Like I was watching that essentially at nine pm Eastern when as soon as it went live.
Yeah, And I have friends who hate that because they consume media in a bingeful way, and I understand that. And you know, if a show doesn't get finished, so they'd watch an episode or two like it forget about it because they liked bin shows, and then the show would get canceled because.
They because they because they didn't bother to watch the show that they loved, and they killed it, is what you're saying.
Yeah, because they forgot about it and then they watched it after that month window to determine whether a show's going to succeed or not, and I've done that too, So this is not shade to any of them. It's just again why the streaming models are still struggling to find their footing.
I tried to do that with New Girl, but they kept making them I know. All right, Well, let's talk about some of the stuff that we have in our actual lineup now, some of which we've already touched on. But first up is, they did release the first eight minutes of Craven the Hunter. That's part of the Spider Man Extended Cinematic Universe. It is also, you know, a movie that Ariel and I I have both been rather skeptical about that. We like the people who are in it, we like the people who are involved with it, but and it didn't. It wasn't coming across as cringey as Madam Webb or Morbius, but it also didn't particularly look great. Did those first eight minutes change your mind in any way?
I was originally going to watch the first eight minutes at two time speed for comedy sake.
So that you could watch the first four minutes.
Yeah, I didn't. I did slow it down. It was better than the stuff I've seen from Morbus and Madam Webb. I don't understand why Aaron Taylor Johnson took his shirt off.
In the very cold to show to show his physique. Obviously obviously like there's no there's no in story explanation. The story is entirely we have to show how jacked this guy got.
For the part, It's fine, it felt the first state minutes felt nondescript.
I I mean, it's obviously meant to show you, Hey, this guy is has superhuman strength and speed and agility, and he also has some sort of warrior code where he's going after particularly bad people, so much so that he's willing to get himself incarcerated in a maximum security prison. And I guess, what's supposed to be Soviet Russia. I mean, maybe it's just supposed to be Russia. But here's what made me laugh, Ariel. So you know, there's this music that starts playing at the beginning of the movie, and it's a male chorus and they're singing in Russian. Right, do you know where that's from? Because I do no. So as soon as the music starts, I recognize it and I look at I go, what the heck? They literally just lifted the theme to The Hunt for Red October. This is not a Russian hymn. It's not a Russian like a traditional Russian song. This was a song that was composed for the film The Hunt for Red October and played as like it's called the Hymn to the Red October, and I'm like, you took a different movies essentially theme song and put it at the beginning of your movie. And it's not in an attempt to draw any kind of parallel with The Hunt for October. It's literally like it came to me as, Oh, you're too lazy to compose your own music for this, so you took music from what I'm guessing is a better movie. I actually love The Hunt for October, so I'm guessing it's better. But yeah, that was the thing. I saw that and it made me laugh because I'm like, really, you took the Hymn to the Red October as you're opening music, and I knew it was all going to be a hard sell from there because I was already they already got on my bad side by reusing music from a different movie. And then I watched the stuff and I thought, this is really standard. Let's show this guy is a total badass by having him take down bad guys. It gave me a lot of like Reacher vibes, that kind of thing without telling us anything useful about the character apart from the fact that he's very strong, fast, and agile, that's it. And then he speaks Russian and yeah. So by the end of it, I was just like, eh, none of this has convinced me that this movie's gonna be something I want to watch.
So I was like, Okay, this is maybe not as cringey as the trailers made it look. And then he started patting the sabertooth tiger, and he did the very best with it that he could.
Like the dead tiger. It's a tiger rug, it's not an actual tiger.
It may not have been a saber to it was.
Just a tiger.
But yeah, but so yeah, so like again doing the best they can. But that was just so silly to me. But you know, if it was meant to be silly, it's completely out of tone of the rest of the scene. And then he jumped off of up the building and that felt very fake to me. And then but at that point I was watching at one point two five speed again, and then.
Well, of course it's going to look fake. Then let me tell you, when it's played at normal speed, it looks totally realistic, does it. No?
No, okay, and then he runs into the storm that he planned would be there three days after his incarceration.
Yeah, and the plane, the plane he's going to escape on, is hidden by this massive snowstorm and the Yeah, you're right, that makes no sense because it is supposed to be three days after he's been taken into custody. Yeah, so so how did he know exactly where a blizzard was going to be that would hide his getaway?
Does he also control the elements?
Who knows?
Anyhow?
They haven't defined any of his powers.
Really anyhow, I handwave a lot of that stuff in other movies. The trailers were so cringey to me that it didn't super save it. I thought the acting was fine. I thought the acting was fine.
Yeah, it's just like I don't know who cares? Yeah, right, like like it's it's it suffers the same problem that I have with all the other extended Spider Man movies, which is that these characters aren't quite interesting enough on their own without Spider Man to anchor a film, And yet that's what they've tried to do over and over again. Yeah, like, well, you know what, the most interesting thing about Venom is Spider Man? Do you know what the most interesting thing about Craven the Hunter is Spider Man?
So the first Venom movie, albeit it could have could have been condensed down the villains. I didn't care about. The odd couple relationship between Venom and Eddie Brock was delightful to watch. I didn't need Spider Man for that.
But it just doesn't make any sense because the whole reason why Venom looks the way Venom does is that Venom bonded first with Peter Parker slash Spider Man and became his symbiote suit, and that without that, there's no reason for Venom to look the way he does.
Yeah. Like I said, I handwave a lot of stuff.
Yeah, all right, well let's move on. We talked about how neither of us are interested in the Snow White live action film. We got a full trailer for that live action film, and yeah, this didn't I mean, if anything, this made me more reluctant to see the movie.
Yeah. Again, it's not the casting. I don't even mind. Gal Gudo is the evil Queen. She looks very much in some of the shots like she got pulled directly from the cartoon.
You're right, she looks like the character.
She I mean, like she is very fair, and the queen was supposed to be a very beautiful person.
And yes, contestedly, she looks like the character. That looks and acting ability are two different things.
But I think she's I don't think the trailer probably did her justice. I think she can play a villain just fine. Some of the costuming I felt was felt cheap.
Yeah, it turns out that if you, if you really faithfully, even with some sub liberties taken, if you faithfully adapt the snow white dress into real world outfits, it does. It doesn't look very convincing to me.
I don't even think it was that faithfully adapted.
No, they took some liberties, they made the skirt much shorter, gave.
Her long sleeves. Yeah, yeah, uh it yeah it whatever. The biggest problem, Okay, the second biggest problem I have is all of the animals are CGI. And I understand that we're moving away from using live animals in productions because it can be cruel. I don't have a problem with that. They look so CGI. And when you've got real life people and you're trying to make real life animals but you make them look like cartoons, it doesn't work for me. And then why the heck are the dwarfs CGI, and why are they so creepy looking?
And why did they put a new song in? That's what really throws me off. I'm like, oh, snow Light, but it's a new song. There are.
I just I don't feel like a new song is necessary, But I'm fine with it. Honestly, the Dwarves look really bad. They look way worse than if they had just tried to authentically recreate the cartoon Dwarves. So there are plenty of people little people. I don't know if that's the correct term.
That's what I hear a lot of people is the generally accepted.
Term, Okay, that are actors and would love roles specifically for them.
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's lots of discussion around that about the use of dwarfs as as like a separate kind of race where instead of it being like dwarf ism. You know. Yeah, there's a whole discussion there that I don't feel qualified to weigh in on.
But I don't either. It's mainly from watching some people who who fall into that acting category, who are like why in Time Bandits did I was called in to audition for it? I'm a little person and then they decided not to go that route, and I was so excited to have this role.
Well, don't worry about that because that didn't get redecked for a second season.
So again I am I am in no way qualified to talk about that, And if that really is a problem, I understand them shying away from it.
But well, I also thought that this isn't so much an objection as it's just a I don't know if this fits, not that it not that I don't think it's uh, you know, that's ultimately a bad choice. But they make it look like there's a lot more action in this film than there was in the original animated movie. They I think part of that is to give snow White more agency, to give her more control over her situation, and to have her be an active participant in her story and not be so passive, which I don't think is a bad thing, right, because in the original story, it's a young woman who gets knocked out by a poison apple and then has to wait around until a prince wakes her up again, and she doesn't she doesn't really do much like snow Light doesn't do much at all. It's all the people around her that do things, so I can understand wanting to change that. It just feels like doing that while also trying to be while trying to reference the original animated film. That's where the disconnect is for me. I would rather they tell a new version of snow White. They fully separate from the animated style, and they you know that you can still have the same you know, plot elements or whatever, but don't feel like you need to make it so that. Oh I recognize that because I've seen the animated movie. Leave that stuff out, because otherwise it feels like you're trying to shoehorn story elements that don't fit in the mold that you created when you made the animated film in the first place.
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I I hope that this brings well, the thing is, I don't even like the story of snow White that much. I was like, I hope it brings a new generation of kids to enjoy the movie. But I the story, but I don't think it's a great story.
Yeah.
I mean, they'll probably give snow White more agency in this one, but still.
Yeah, I feel the same way. And I also, I mean, like, to me, it's just I am so tired. I understand why they're doing it, but I'm so tired of Disney going back to releverage ip that they've created in an effort to tap into nostalgia and the love people have for classic Disney stuff rather than try to establish new things. But we've talked about this before about how sometimes Disney does try to establish new things and it doesn't always work out.
Yeah. Well, and they aren't always super into nostalgia. Look at Muppets forty.
Okay, so this is you referencing the fact that they're bulldozing the Muppet Vision four D in order to room for Monstropolis at Disney Hollywood Studios.
Yeah. Yeah, Which I went to Disney at the beginning of November and almost didn't do Muppets forty, and I almost didn't do Rock and Roller Coaster. I love Rock and Roller Coaster, but one of the people that went with me was like, I don't really like riding it because last time they rode in the very very back, which is a super rough ride.
Yep.
But if you ride in the front, it's delightful. So so we rode in the front and it was much better. But I'm really glad I did because as soon as we got back. Like the week that we got back, Disney said, hey, we're shutting down Upets forty and rock and Roller Coaster kind of but.
Rock and Roller Coaster is getting a re theme, and I mean we've Aerosmith is the band that's currently associated with the Rock and Roller Coaster. Aeriel's throwing up the shaker right now, which was cut out of that video. But my favorite thing about that video is that Ken Marino, of the state and wet hot American summer and everything, he plays the studio engineer. Yeah, in that I am so hopeful that they bring Ken Marino back when they do the rethving. I would love to see Kid Marino back as that character.
Me me too. When we wrote it, they had it had been broken down for a while, but we were so close to the door and it was the last ride we'd be able to do that night, like the park had closed, exception for the second show of Fantasmic, which happens thirty minutes after the park closed. Don't understand, but anyhow, we stayed there because they weren't saying we're shut down for the night. And I'm glad because that means I won't get to write it again. Likely before they reskin it. But ken Marino was just sitting in the in the sound booth working. We didn't get to do the entire show because of the breakdown.
So it's just him like doing busy work and that's it.
Yeah, so we're all yeling, Hey, thanks for the backstage passes as we walked through.
Yeah, ken Marina like, I love I love his work in the various things he's in. So yeah, it's fun to see. I really hope they bring him back. But yeah, the idea is that the Muppets four D is going down. There's no talk yet specifically about what's going to happen with that film, but there has been at least some indication that it will live on in some form somehow. We just don't know how. That's important historically because any Disney fan or Muppets fan probably knows this. But that's the last project Jim Henson worked on voicing and controlling Kermit the Frog before he passed away, So it's the last time the original Kermit appears. Every Kermit after that is someone else performing the character. And I'm an og Kermit guy because I grew up in the seventies and eighty so for me, the preservation of that film is important because it represents the last time this brilliant puppeteer and storyteller played the character he made famous well.
And then like the building, like the actual theater is a replica of the Muppet Show theater.
Yep, and they even have in theater effects so that it's not just the stuff you're watching on screen. You've got like Statler and Waldorf who are in the box. You've got the Swedish chef running the camera as I recall, yeah.
Yep, and then the projector, and then you've got an actor who comes out as sweet Ems and interacts with you. And ye watching that again because I thought, I remember, I'm just kind of walking out with a flashlight and going no. It's such an involved role and the person who did it was so into playing that character. It was at least made me believe they were Yeah.
So yeah, I sad to see that go. Uh. I understand why they would choose to take it down because every time I've gone in recent years before they announced that it was going to go away, it was maybe at most a third full, like it was never a full house, So I get it, Like if it's not going to capacity, then you know, you could dedicate that space to something that could swallow up more people so that maybe Slinky Dog Dash isn't a four hour wait. I love that ride, but only if you don't have to wait.
For it, and only it's not during the day because it's the surface of the sun. There's no shade, and you swallow.
Bugs the It is definitely a hotter ride in the daytime. I prefer the nighttime because the lights are really cool. But yeah, but yeah, they're they're going to They're going to reskin Rock and Roller Coaster with the Muppets and some unannounced musical partners, like so presumably it's not just going to be Doctor Teeth in the Electric Mayhem. But you know, this is something that people have been calling for ever since they had the Electric Mayhem Disney Plus series, So they would be great to reskin Rock and Roller Coaster with the Electric Mayhem. Sounds like they're not going to leave it to just the Muppets. There will also be other artists involved. Who knows who that'll be, probably Chapel Road.
I don't know, that'd be great. So here's the thing, Like, I am really sad for Muppets forty to go away, because I remember that from my earliest Disney days and it was so it was so cool. It was so cool, and I love the Muppets. That land has been that area has been kind of you know, they close the Muppet Store, which was great. Yeah, I was kind of worried that they're getting rid of Muppets altogether, because like the lab at Epcot also has been greatly diminished.
They also used to have Doctor Strange, they head of Doctor Bunzen, Honey and Beaker moving around for a while at Epcot, and that hasn't been I think that.
Was a part of the Brew Labs or whatever they are. There's still a little bit of Muppet stuff. There are still some videos during the food and Wine festival in there, but yeah, not nearly as much, you know, Pizza Rizzo whatever. I know some people love it for nostalgia. It's not good.
It's not good.
No.
Even the Christmas store back over where the Muppets stuff is, even that was not always open, at least since the pandemic.
So I've seen a lot of stuff on social media talking about how it's it's really like an urban planning error. The way the way that people flow around the park with Galaxy's Edge and Toy story Land, and that they kind of because they closed the back lot tours and the Streets of America. It closed off a flow of traffic where normally you would just go through that area. Yeah, now you have to purposefully go to that area. And people saying that if you kept the Muppets four D there, you put the the monsters in the Art of Animation because there's a lot of room back there. Yeah, and then that would can and then that would connect it with Toy.
Storyland, so a Pixar area of the park.
Yeah. That being that being said, I do hope that re skinning Aerosmith to be Muppets. I hope they bring more Muppet stuff into that and that that revitalizes that area. Maybe they can open the Muppet Store back up over there, because my favorite shirt came from there. Of all times, a couple of them, but but also I gave you one of them you gave to me, and one of them I bought, which was like Beaker. It was just a multi colored beaker ringer tea that I don't have. I still have the one you gave me, but I don't have the Beaker tea anymore. And my Muppet My My Animal Drummer shirt with the lightning bolts down the back also came from there. Most of my favorite Disney shirts came from their, exception of one from Indiana Jones. But but Rock and Roller is right next to Haunted Mansion, which did also have a Muppets version. Wasn't there a Muppets Haunted Mansion?
Yeah, but what do you mean Rock and Roller coaster is next No, it's next to Tower of Terror.
Next to Tower of Terror. I'm sorry, I was getting scary build I'm getting my Disney scary buildings mixed up.
I got confused because Rocket because obviously haunted mansions in the Magic Kingdom. That's why I got super confused.
Well just ignore that last fact. But there should be a Tower of Terror Muppets version. That would be great.
Yeah, I think that would be great. Honestly, like if they were to reskin Tower of Terror, because that's what they did in Disneyland. They reskinned it to be Guardens of the Galaxy. That's what it's, the Guardians of the Galaxy right in Disneyland. I think it would be a shame to lose the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror stuff, but there have been times where they talked about that license not being renewed if they were to reskin that where they made that a Muppets hotel, and that's the reason that the elevator doesn't work so great because it's a Muppets hotel, like the Hotel and the Happiness Hotel in the Great Muppet Caper. That would be hilarious. Uh not that, not that I expect them to do that, or if they are doing it, it won't be until like twenty thirty five or something. But anyway, that's the that's the Muppet stuff. Next up, we have news that I thought was really exciting, which is that there's going to be a theatrical staged version of Smegadoon. That's the Apple TV series that the you know, in which two people accidentally get stuck in a world that's a musical and it was a very funny show. The first season I thought was okay, the second season I thought was much better. But there's going to be a stage adaptation of Smigadoon and it's going to be up for just a short time at the Kennedy Center in d C. So it's not going to be there for very long. Alex Brightman's going to be in it.
He's really good at playing heels that pull it my heartstrings. So yeah, not that I'm going to go see Schmigadoon at the Kennedy Center, but he's.
I mean, DC, It's only an hour flight or so. I mean, it's not bad.
Yeah, but I don't playing tickets for me my friend are expensive.
Oh well, I get you. I've been buying tickets recently. But then I also am a frequent flyer, like I'm a medallion member, so.
I'm not I'm not, and like my husband does work in the private jet industry, but we see absolutely no benefit from that. Well, I mean beyond like a regular paycheck.
Sure, sure, what you mean is no, no, like, like you know, it's not like flight benefits. Yeah, you don't get to go jetting around the world for free or something.
But hopefully, like so, I think hopefully it will do well and we'll move to New York.
Yeah, I mean, if this ends up getting a really good reception, it could be one of those things that ultimately gets further development. I wouldn't be surprised if whatever formance en ends up being workshopped further because I'm very curious. I'm guessing that it'll be some sort of truncated, summarized version of the first season, because the second season wouldn't make sense without the first season, because it's a continuation. Yeah, and that means condensing like a mini series of episodes into a like two hour play, which I'm sure you could do. Like, there's a lot of stuff in that first season that you don't aren't it's not necessary for you to have it in your story. But at the same time, you're like, there are a lot of fun little songs that we're all poking fun at classic you know, musical show tunes and and you know, motifs and stuff. So I am definitely curious. If I get a chance, I will go see this. I love DC anyway, so it would be nice to be able to do it, But I don't know that I'm going to have the time.
Our friend Kate is going to go see it. I was trying to talk Tony into going up to DC to watch either, well I don't think either Bigger or drop Out Improv and then maybe doing a double feature, but I don't even know if they overlap, So.
Next up, we had the Lelo and Stitch teaser, but we talked about that already, so I fear we could just move on, move on. We got a trailer for Dexter Original Sin. I don't know how he's still alive, but whatever.
I mean, it's a it's a prequel, right.
Is it? Okay?
Well then yeah, did you not watch a trailer?
I did watch the trailer, but honestly, I wasn't paying that much attention.
So, yeah, Dexter is like this college boy. It's when he first gets the job.
Oh okay. I saw that Sarah Michelle geller Is is guest starring in it, which is exciting to me.
Yeah. I think the kid that they can't kid, he's a young adult that they cast as Dexter, is a really good casting choice. He looks he evokes the character very much to me. But the further I got into the trailer, the more and more I'm like, Nope, this is just still too dark and upsetting to me.
I mean that's kind of the point. Kind of the point. Yeah, it's you don't you don't tell a story that that has a serial killer as the protagonist that have it be light and fluffy, I.
Less believe Christian Slater as John Lithgow.
Is he playing that character?
Well, I don't know. Well, no, he's not. He's playing Dexter's dad. I just keep thinking I was.
Wanna say John Lifthgal is not Dexter's dad. John Leftgell is another serial killer who uh there's like a whole cat and mouse between him and Dexter throughout the whole season.
He plays Dexter's dad. So that's my bad again. I didn't watch much of the series.
I watched some of the original Null Dexter series, but I never watched it all the way. I never finished it. I didn't actually get to the season where John Lithgal was in it, but I heard a lot about it and heard that he did an amazing job, which no big surprise. John Lithgal is like he's he's a phenomenal actor.
Yeah. I almost included something with him and Jeffrey Rush. It's a scary movie, but I couldn't get through the trailer because it's it's not it's not like sci fi in anyway. It's just upsetting.
Well, speaking of upsetting trailers, Minecraft, the actual full.
Length Minecraft trailer was better than the teaser. It kind of gives you a really weird story about Steve who really wanted to work in the mines as a kid.
Yeah. No, I at that beginning. As soon as I saw that, I was like, what can you read the room? Because forced child labor in mining operations is a real world problem right now?
Yeah, yeah, but there.
Are blood diamonds, there are rare minerals where like children are being forced, yeah to work in minds, maybe this is not the right energy to bring to this this movie, But.
The rest of the the rest of the movie just looks like how to play Minecraft tutorial that kids would absolutely love, So I'm less against it.
I got a little confused. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. Okay, I know I wasn't paying enough attention, But it sounded to me like Jason Momoa was saying he was a different video game that got pulled in.
Wasn't paying attention. I thought he said he was a mailman.
He's a garbage man. He said something that he says something like so and so the garbage Man or whatever, Best Game nineteen eighty nine or something like that, And I'm like, wait, is he the personification of a different game, and somehow he's been pulled into Minecraft. I don't know the answer to that.
I did not hear game.
It's entirely fairly possible I hallucinated it, let's be fair. I don't know if you know this areal, But earlier this year, I had this medical thing where it was kind of like a stroke and my brain's got scrambled.
Okay, yeah, no, you you that sounds vaguely familiar.
Maybe I brought it up once or twice.
Maybe Garrett the garbage Man Garrison Minecraft wiki.
I like that you're looking this up. I couldn't be bothered.
He wears a shirt with characters from the video game Hunk City Rampage.
Maybe that's it. Maybe maybe then there's like a line he says about the game Hunk City Rampage.
He was a video game World Champion in nineteen eighty nine.
Okay, that's what I didn't hear properly, Like I thought he was talking about. He was like he had won the title of best video Game. Not he was a video game player.
Yeah, it made no sense. I didn't hear it either, and I meant to look it up and I never did, which is why I looked it up now, because I knew I was not going to remember as soon as I get off this microphone.
Yeah, I will say that the bit that I thought was cute was the bit with the inder pearl, which is a thing that in Minecraft if you find one and if you throw it, you will teleport to wherever it lands. And they have a cute little little comedic site gag with Jason Momoa and that, and I was like, Okay, that's cute. None of the rest of this is at all making me want to see this movie. It feels very cringe to me. But then also, if kids like it, that's awesome. But the kids love it.
I don't think it's meant for us, but I do kind of. I'm like, maybe I'll watch it on two time speed when it comes to TV so that I can learn how to play Minecraft better. I'm not great at it.
I used to. I'm sure I've told this story before too, but I used to do a fundraiser thing for Children's Hospital charity for every year where I would do twenty four or I think one year it was twenty five straight hours of me playing Minecraft and people who donated, depending on how much they donated. I would build a tribute to them in the Minecraft world nice. And so the more you donated, the more precious materials I would have to gather in order to build whatever the tribute was. And yeah, that was a lot of hard work, but it was fun. Next up, we've got the trailer for Captain America Brave New World we talked about already, so we're going to.
Move on scoop. Next, we have a trailer for Grand Theft Hamlet, which is not at all what I expected it to be.
Yeah. The story is, these two actors end up forming this crazy idea to do a production of Hamlet inside Grand Theft Auto Online, up to and including holding auditions for characters in Grand Theft Auto Online, and like all the it's almost like a documentary about all the trials and tribulations involved in making this happen. Not to say like this is like a true life documentary kind of thing, but it looks delightful.
It does, it does. It's not just Hamlet being done in Grand Theft Auto. It's yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, it's also very funny to think about a situation where you have people gathered to do auditions and then someone just whips out a flamethrower and starts torching everybody else. That's one way to get the part.
Yeah, there's a bit in the trailer where one of them is like, please don't kill each other, Please don't kill the actors.
Yeah, and then we get a trailer that I did not get a chance to see. I ran out of time before we started recording, which is kind of a a crossover to another show that you and I hosted, Yes.
Which is the entirely, entirely the reason why I include this. This is kind of a documentary done by the same people who did Quiet on Set, which is a very upsetting documentary but needed called Greed and Glitter. The Lisa Frank's story and the reason why Jonathan says it ties to our other show. We used to do a show called Business on the Brink. I think a lot of our listeners know that already, but if you didn't, we talked about the make or break moments of businesses and Lisa Frank at the time and still is kind of making a resurgence. So we talked about why Lisa Frank kind of went the way of a Dodo for a while, and it was because it was a really bad working condition apparently, and the trailer for this for this documentary kind of confirms that. In fact, one of the people they interview goes, it wasn't all rainbows and unicorns.
Yeah. So if you don't know who Lisa Frank, like, if you don't.
Know what that is, I guess that's important.
Yeah, it's a brand that you would associate with things like trapper Keepers and stuff like that back in the eighties and nineties where it was all this lots of very colorful gear that I always think of, trapper Keepers, that's the one I always do too.
Yeah, that's my go to, yeah, school supplies.
Yeah, so it's all those like glittery, shiny stuff or the very very very late eighties early nineties designs like those zig zags and blotches and stuff that became became like a go to decorative theme for those those years. I don't know why, but they did.
Neon rainbow baby leopards and dolphins and unicorns.
Yeah. So that's Lisa Frank. And so this is a documentary about that that company and what happened. And so just I know you're all out there dying to know. No, Ariel and I are not getting residuals for this, even though I suspect they listen to our podcast that's what them to do the show interesting.
I doubt it, but that would be really cool if they did.
Honestly, Yeah, I doubt it too, but I like to talk a big game.
Yeah, it is a really interesting story. It's just because it's so like surprising, I.
Guess, yeah, No, it's it's the it's the real story behind the scenes is so in conflict with the brand perception, right Like that's where that's where the interesting parts come from. So well, that's cool. I'm glad that we were able to include it. And I'm just going to tell you straight up here, Ariel, if people want to reach out to us to ask us things about what we've talked about today, what they're going to have to do if they want me to answer, is they're going to have to watch every single movie and series I was quizzing you about earlier. And once they can do that and prove to me that they have done that, then I'll bother answering their question. But if they have other, you know, questions that need to be answered and they don't mind if it doesn't come from me, what can they do?
Oh you turn the tables, my friend. They can reach out on social media on Facebook and threads and Instagram. We're a large nerdrun Collider. We're also that on discord. You can find the invite to join the discord on our website www dot large nerdron collider dot com. We're technically on blue Sky, but I don't really use it, and you can email us for anything long form that you'd like to talk about, suggestions, please, you know whatever. We are large nerdrum Pod at gmail dot com. We do love hearing from you, and sometimes I'm slow to answer. If you say anything to Jonathan and he doesn't check it, I do tell him and he will sometimes relay messages.
It depends how grouchy I am that day.
Yeah it's not you, it's him, but but that's it. We really do love hearing from you. We love that you listen to our show and talk about geeky things with us. And until next time, because whoa, this has been a marathon. I have been Aeriel, I don't have something witty.
Here, and I have been Jonathan. If I can drag this out for a minute and fifty seconds, we will hit two ours no, never mind, Strickland.
Okay, yeah, but also you're going to have to edit out some of my goops.
So oh, we'll see. The Large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin McLeod of incomptech dot com
