LNC Cruising Out of Control

Published Jan 27, 2025, 1:56 AM

Jonathan talks about being on a cruise, Ariel talks about her Broadway connection, and both hosts darn near lose their minds because they're recording on a Saturday.

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Nerdon Collier Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the world around us and how very excited we are about them. I'm Ariel Castin and with me, as always is be a wonderful genre industry group.

Oh hoy, hoy, Ariel hoy HOI I am back from the sea. You are, Yeah, I hate the sea and everything in it.

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Yeah. We're recording this on Saturday, January twenty fifth. We usually record on Fridays, but I just got back from a cruise, a Disney cruise as it were, and so we decided we would record today rather than go, you know, like another hiatus. I've got a lot of travel coming up over the next couple of weeks, so we're going to work around that as best we can, because we feel bad that, you know, we had so much time off over the last couple of months.

Yeah. I also have a tiny bit of travel. But well we'll figure it out.

Yeah, we will get you your dosage of geekery one way or another.

Yeah. Yeah, who is on weekend already?

Yeah? Well, I mean it's it's in the afternoon on Saturday. We have been. We've been in weekend mode for a bit, so Ariel, before we started recording, before we even got on camera or anything, you had sent me a message and I was delighted to hear that you have started to watch Severance.

Yeah. I've been trying to watch it like all week since, maybe like last week even. But it's one of those things that were like, well, when we started, we want to sit down and pay attention to it, and you know, if it's late at night. I've been having some very late nights, so if it's late at night, you know, I don't want to be sleepy and only paying half attention to it. So we started last night. We got through the first three episodes. It is a lot of fun. It's kind of scratching that lost itch that I have of like I want to watch a show with a lot of mystery and bizarreness and not know what's happening.

Yeah, you're trying to figure out what's going on, what is significant, what's not significant, and what's funny is stuff that you will be absolutely certain is insignificant later becomes important.

Yeah, I assume everything's significant, but it's it is so well written. In my opinion, Yeah, I'm so glad you recommended it because I was a little on the fence. It sounded interesting, but I wasn't sure. But for being so bizarre, it's also the humor is incredibly relatable. I wouldn't call it a comedy, but there is a good amount of humor in it.

Yeah, especially especially character based humor. Yeah. Like like, for example, the brother in law of Adam Scott's character is such a new age weirdo.

I just I first episode and I'm like, how did a sister that cool marry that person?

Well, I mean you got to look at my relationship with my partner and then you say, all right, it happens in real life too, really cool people like my partner end up with total dufices.

Okay, fair enough, fair enough. You know, normally I would I would stop you from insulting yourself. But Becca is remarkably cool.

So yeah, yeah, Beca's Beca's the coolest, so cool uh.

So uh yeah, So I'm really enjoying it. Also, it's funny because last weekend I got together with some friends my D and D group, and we're going to try. One of them got a new RPG in called The Triangle agency and we're gonna try that. And it's about a bunch of people who are weird that work in this really weird meow Wolf Severance kind of corporation that go after anomalies but nothing's really explained and it's really bizarre and just so it fits right in. It's really helping me develop my character.

That's cool. Yeah, I remember when I first watch it, started watching Severance like I was coming to some certain ideas about what was going on, and by the end of the season, I was delighted to find out that I didn't anticipate the actual like some of the bigger reveals of the season at all. And that's my favorite kind of show where, Yeah.

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Don't want to give the writers too much credit because I'm also dense. So often I don't often I don't notice, Like sometimes I notice stuff, but it's like small stuff that doesn't actually pertain to the narrative. It's more like, oh, I noticed that they use this particular editing trick or camera trick, and unfortunately that pulls me out of the moment and I'm thinking more about the making of the thing instead of the thing itself. That was my big problem with Nosfaratu is not that Nosfaratu was a bad movie, but that it's like I could see the filmmaking happening in front of me, and that's what distracted me. So but yeah, no, Severance has has a great reveal, and I've heard mixed things about the second season. I haven't watched it yet, so I don't have a personal opinion.

But i've heard mixed things. I am purposefully stepping away from I mean, I'm still on social media, but I am limiting my time on there as a general New Year's resolute anyhow. Yeah, so just because I have limited time in the day and I want to spend it doing more productive things. But I still get on there and I've seen some interviews with people, so I feel like I have spoilers, but I don't for season two. But it's okay because as I'm watching it, I still don't know what's going on. I have a lot of theories. That's the other thing I'll say about it is I like shows that make you think, because I don't. Sometimes I like to be mindless, but sometimes I like to think, which is why I wanted to have a good attention span for Severance. But it doesn't feel like work.

It's fun, right, And my biggest hope is that the showrunners had a firm idea of what's actually happening from the get go, and that they're not doing a loss where it slowly becomes clear that they were kind of making it up as they were going along, because that's my biggest problem with Abram JJ Abrams in general is that I often feel like he gets really good ideas, he does not flesh them out enough before they start going into production, and the next thing he knows he's in a corner and he has to kind of cheat to get out of the corner or to find some sort of unsatisfying solution. And one way to work around that is flesh your ideas out enough so that you know where you're going to. It may be that the destination changes along the way, that's okay, but at least have an idea of where you're going. Don't be like Abrams and lost or was it who was it that did X Files? I can't remember his name now, but X Files was the same way right Like X Files was supposedly planned from the get go, but it became very clear as the Chris Carter, thank you. It became very clear as the seasons went on that Chris Carter did not have a real roadmap for where that's series was going to go.

I've only seen like four episodes of The X Files.

That's fine. I mean, if it's not your thing, it's not your thing. Like back in the day when that was on TV, it was such a revolutionary series, you know, But now we've got tons of stuff that is clearly inspired by X Files that in some ways is better.

I mean, I think that it's less that it wasn't my thing. Is I didn't watch it when it was new, so it does feel a little a little dated. And then also like I know so much, like even just watching Jeopardy, I know so much of what's happened in The X Files that it isn't a surprise to me anymore. You know.

There are a couple of episodes. There's one episode in particular called Home that to this day is one of the most disturbing episodes of television, like just broadcast TV, that I've ever seen, and it's one of my favorite episodes. It is my favorite episode of X Files. I remember when that came out because I was in college, which means you were in diapers. So not quite, but I'm making a joke.

No, no, Jonathan, I definitely was not in diapers.

Buriel was a late bloomer when it comes to body training, is what I'm saying.

I was an early bloomer in all things in child Actually I don't know about potty training, but like I started reading very early.

So yeah, well I'm merely joshing, but yeah, Home was what you certainly would have been too young to have watched Home. That was a dark and disturbing episode, but it happened. It did one of my favorite things in the world, which is where you pair like a really disturbing and violent scene with music that is kind of cheerful, and the juxtaposition of the two makes the scene more even more impactful like it to me, it hits way harder then if the music was like your your stereotypical horror music.

Because the comforting music makes you feel safe, and then they're invading on that safe.

Feeling exactly exactly, and it was. It was Johnny Mathis's song Wonderful, wonderful, Oh oh, such a such a incredible act of disturbing violence. Yeah, I highly recommend if you if you like creepy. Also, Home is one of those episodes that was a standalone, like it wasn't deeply connected to the rest of the mythology of the series, so you could, you know, you could watch it like it was just an episodic television show and not really be too out of.

The loop, too scary for me.

Per I think you can handle it, but I think it would be pushing your limits.

Okay, I will skip that one if I go back to X Files.

Oh it's so good though, Well.

We'll see, we'll see. There's I have to finish Severance first, yes, but also I am caught up on pop culture Jeopardy. I will say this one. I expected it to be a short season, like eight episodes, and it is absolutely not. There's like eighty one teams wow, and then they go to the quarterfinals, and then they go to the semifinals and then the finals. So it's a nice long run of episodes, which I really like. And then the other cool thing I think they're doing is there's been a big debate among some of my friends groups of whether it's better to release weekly or to release all it once and allow for a binge. But a shorter subscription period, and they are releasing three episodes a week, so at least during the initial rounds, which gives you the feeling like you're binging, but also makes you come back every week. And I think that's incredibly smart and I'm quite enjoying it. Although this week was not my week for pop culture Jeopardy, I didn't know many of the answers. I felt a little silly.

Well, I mean, three a week to me, makes perfect sense for like a game show, you know, because traditionally you would get those like one a day, right, Jeopardy Monday through Friday. Right, So uh so something like that to me feels like it falls right in with the traditional release of game show formats.

Yeah, so what did you watch?

A whole bunch of whole bunch of Disney stuff and Marvel stuff? Because I was on a Disney boat, And I mean, technically I could have seen movies I have not watched before, like Mowana Too, but I.

Didn't, or Elements Question.

Elementals but I didn't, or Mufasa but I didn't. Instead, I watched a bunch of stuff I have seen before. So I watched a bunch of the Marvel movies older ones because they were there. I'm being honest, Like it was when I was just kind of hanging out in the room and relaxing, and you know, I didn't want to go around and do stuff in the on the ship. I was watching lots of them. But what was funny was that I'm sure I noticed this at the time, but I forgot about it. I was watching ant Man in the Wasp and was delighted when someone I know shows up on screen and even had a couple of lines, and I was like, I totally forgot she was in this movie. I'm assuming I noticed it, but I'd only ever seen it once because the Becca's afraid of insects, so she will not watch the ant Man movies, Like that's just a no go from the beginning, and and so I've only seen them once each until now. Now I've seen ant Man and ant Man in the losp twice.

Yeah.

One like, I think that's Sueila Sueila el Atar. She played Agent Pearson. Yeah, so she's a local writer and actor here in Atlanta. She's actually done quite a bit of stuff on screen. But I've known her for years and years and years, and one of my favorite things she ever did wasn't a movie. She wrote a touching play about her relationship with her father and she anchored it to their shared love of Doctor Who. And her father is from Egypt, so she's a first generation, you know, American citizen and her parents were from Egypt, are from Egypt, and actually that's I believe she's in Egypt right now visiting family. But yeah, so she had this great play that talked about her relationship with her father and related it with their love of the show Doctor Who. And it was very very sweet and funny, and uh, it just it was nice to remember that. Like seeing her on screen, I just had this big flashback to that show she did years ago. But anyway, yeah, I didn't watch anything new. I just saw a lot of Disney stuff. They did do three stage productions on the ship while I was gone. So they did Tangled, a stage production of Tangled, which was adorable. They did a stage production called Twice Charmed, which is a retelling of Cinderella, and it's the premises what if at the end of Cinderella, if Lady Tremaine and the Stepsisters were visited by a wicked fairy godfather and they were able to turn time back and destroy the Slippers before the Prince could meet Cinderella, before he could you know, find her. And it's funny because I've seen that show now three times and it's changed each time. They've they've gone back and they've reworked it. Uh And honestly, the second version is my favorite. This one was. This one was still still good, still entertaining, but I think the second version, which had more of the Stepsisters in them, and they're my favorite characters. Yeah, that was my real favorite. This one had a little less of the Stepsisters and a little bit more of Gus, Gus and Jacques the Mice.

I mean, that's fine. I don't dislike Gus gust In Shock, but the Anastasia and Drazilla Drizilla Drizilla are delightful. Yeah, you're delightful. I will forget. That sounds I want to hear about the third show too, But that sounds wonderful. It sounds so wonderful that I'm not mad that it's not what I expected it to be, which was the life of the two Princes into the woods when they weren't singing agony.

It's funny because there is kind of a moment like that in the show, because there's when Cinderella's prince is searching for her. There's one point where he encounters snow White. It's just done as a joke, but he encounters snow White and she he says, I'm looking for my princess and she turns so she says, yes and it's not it's not you. And she said someday my prince will come. And then she just starts bursting into tears and runs off stage. But then there's another bit where where the duke is saying because he's talking about being in love with Cinderella and dukes saying, Prince, you fall in love every week. I mean last week it was the Duchess so and so, the Countess so and so, and do you remember the two sisters from Arundell? And he says, let it go, Duke, and it's just very meta, you know, tongue in cheek Disney humor. We also later encountered the actor who played Franco. He was super nice, very very talented, performed her great singer, a lot of stage presence. He really played like he ate up being a villain. It was fantastic. So he was awesome. And then the last show they do is called Disney Dreams, which is I would say an original show, but it's it relies heavily on established Disney music, and it's about a little girl who's who's about to go into middle school, so not that little, and she's, you know, on the verge of growing up, and Peter Pan visits her in order to teach her how to continue to dream, essentially to make believe even as she gets older, because she's worried that she's going to lose that she's been told by one of her friends that you know, when you grow up, you stop doing these silly, childish things. And then he takes her through a journey that has her meeting all these different Disney characters which allow for the production of different songs from different stuff, and in this one that included the Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Cinderella, a little bit of Frozen as well, and Becka and I were like frozens knew what did Frozen replace? And we cannot remember for the life of us. So I'm going to have to look it up at some point to figure out what section did they take out so that they could put in a Frozen segment. But they actually do have a beauty in the B section two and they also have a little bit of Lion King, so yeah, it's weird. I'll have to look it up. We did figure there was a previous version where they had both I Just can't Wait to Be King and Circle of Life. This one just had Circle of Life, which is one of their showstopper numbers. Anyway, if you ever go on a Disney cruise and you're on either the Magic or the Wonder, Disney Dreams is their signature show that is produced just on those two ships. The Fantasy and the Dream have a different one called Believe, which is not as good.

Gotcha, gotcha? Well, that sounds like a lot of fun, and honestly, spending the week watching some fun Disney and Marvel stuff sounds delightful.

Not a bad way to spend the week, if I'm being honest.

Yeah, not a bad way at all. I guess at this, Oh I did mention. Well, no, I'll get to that later because I think it's in our It's in our thirty seconds or less, so I'll get to that point later. Y'all just gonna have to be an expense in suspense expense, suspense, wake up brain for like another two and a half minutes.

Yeah, because we were kind of heading right to that thirty seconds or less already. I mean, we've we've been gabbing for twenty minutes without ever really getting it into anything other than how awesome Disney cruises are.

We talked about severance for a good while. We did, you know, and I think conversation. I love running through trailers because I do have friends who listen to I have friends who listen to this show. Everybody's my friend who listens to the show. But I have people who, like I see on a regular basis, who listen to the show and they're like, I didn't know about this, thank you. So I like running through that. But I also really like discussing stuff because then it opens up the door for other people to give their opinions on it, and I enjoy that.

So yeah, so let's get to a part of our show where we don't discuss anything. We just rattle through a bunch of stories as fast as you can. And it's called thirty seconds or less, And I think, Ariel, you are first.

I am in Broadway news a show called Dead Outlaw is coming this spring. I'm talking about it because my childhood acting friend, Andrew Durand we used to do community theater together, is the lead in it. He was also in Shocked, a lead and Shocked, and he was also in Head over Heels. But he is playing Elmer mccurnie, who is an outlaw who then dies and then his corpse becomes famous and goes on all of these adventures. So if you ever wanted a wild, wild West version of Weekend at Bernie's, then this is for you. I've heard that the music is great. It was off Broadway last year. I'm just absolutely delighted for Andrew. He's so talented, and I know any show he's in is he is at least going to shine. So I'm very very excited for it.

Yeah, and if you want a slightly more recent reference than Weekend at Bernie's, let's say Swiss Army Man. That's another fair You know, I still haven't seen that boy. Daniel Radcliffe puts on a dead amazing performance, all right.

Ah.

Dark Horse Comics has dropped Neil Gaiman in the wake of abuse allegations brought against him by eight women. So far, the comic book publisher has been producing a series of comic book based off Gayman's Nansi Boys novel, which is a spin off of American Gods. This comes after news already broke that Good Omens is not getting a full third season, but rather a ninety minute film that wraps up the story without Gaman's involvement, and Disney has paused production on a film adaptation of the Graveyard book. No word on what effect, if any, this is going to have on the other few Gayman productions that are out there. We'll see.

Yeah, I wrote my next title, Joe Russo declaring soccer war on Ryan and Rob. How's that for clickbait? So most people know that Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhoney own the Wrexham football team. Well, Joe Russo, one of the Russo brothers from all that amazing Marvel stuff, has decided to join the board for Sheffield United, so which is not the same team as Wrexham. So it kind of feels like he's declaring soccer war, all though I'm sure they're all friendly. Joe did go to a Wrexham game with Ryan and Rob, so fun.

That is fun. Well, back in two thousand and two, Paul W. S. Anderson directed a film adaptation of Resident Evil. That's where he met his future wife, Milla Jojoviovic he then or Mila Jehovivic. He then kept making movies in the franchise, and she kept starring in them, which is why I joked that he's her agent in some ways. But those movies only bear a passing resemblance to the video game source material. Now there's a reboot series in the works with the whitest Barbarian. You know, Zach Kregor at the Helm Studios are currently in a bidding war over this project, which is said to be more faithful to the video game source material.

Yeah, very interesting. I'm tentatively excited about that. Okay, if you looked at the list, We're going to go over Oscar Noms later in the show. But if you looked at the list and went, man, I haven't seen many of those movies, well, you're in luck. If you live in New York, Boston, Los Angeles, or San Francisco and are near an AMC, you can join a one or two day marathon of watching nine of the ten films. That's that's a long long time. There's a one of them is a twenty four hour marathon, and one is a two day marathon. And the twenty four hour marathon starts on March first and wraps up with Wicked at ten ten the next morning. So that's a long day. But if you're committed to the Oscar movies, have fun.

I am curious which one was left out?

Oh oh it was Amelia Perez.

The one that beat Wicked. Okay, all right, Well, Ryan Gosling isn't just Ken Maybe he's can Nobe, well not Kenobi, but some sort of Star Wars character. Ryan Gosling is reportedly and talks to star in a Star Wars film held by Sean Levy, the guy behind Dead Bull and Wolverine. Also, he played one of the punk bad guys in a terrible movie called Zombie Nightmare. You should check that out. There are a few details available about this Star Wars film, which Levy first began writing back in twenty twenty two. We do know it's not going to be connected to the Skywalker saga, which is kind of a relief really if you ask me.

Yeah, now we have to do a Barbie Star Wars mashup, you know that, right?

Sure?

Okay, next in Star Trek News. Going from Star Wars to Star Trek Section thirty one, which was supposed to be a TV show about Michelle Yoh's character in an alternate universe and then got turned into a movie, is not getting great reviews at best. I've heard that there are too many ideas squished into too small of a space. But it is only ranking thirty one percent on Rotten Tomatoes, and the only Star Trek property that has ranked less is Star Trek five, the final front tier. So that's a little sad.

Yeah, O man uh, but yeah, like movies with too many ideas, and it have been a thing recently. I feel like Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice had the same issue. Well, back to Star Wars Now and back to the Skywalkers. George Nolfi, who has written screenplays for movies in the Bourne franchise as well as Ocean's Twelve, is the latest in a long line of writers connected to a Daisy Ridley centric Star Wars movie called New Jedi Order. Previously, folks like David Lindeloff, Justin Britt Gibson, and Stephen Knight worked on versions that then got scrapped. The delays mean that this film, if it ever does get made, is going to happen after the mysterious Levy film mentioned earlier, a.

Very interesting uh Aggers Eggers No, if we're about to talk a lot about him in three seconds or last, if you didn't watch nast for Rucu not so too. That's fruit by the foot in the theaters. You can now watch it at home if you're like me. If you want your shouldn't be sexy scary film viewing in the privacy of your own home, you can do that now, along with Saturday Night and Sonic three.

I already did watch it at home. Ha ha ha. That's what That's what I get for being part of the WGA. Well, turning from vampires to wear wolves. Egger's next project is a quote thirteenth century werewolf thriller end quote. According to the Hollywood Reporter, it's titled Werewolf. But there's a U in there, and it's well, it's it's not where you think, no, it really it totally is where you think two ys and one in Yeah, you know, Eggers, the bitch wasn't weird enough spelling, I guess anyway. He co wrote the screenplay with Sean that's Sjo with the little both thingy over, and he's an Icelandic writer. He collaborated with Eggers on The Northman, and that's all we have to say about Robert Eggers, right areel No.

So there was rumor that he was going to make a Labyrinth movie, and those rumors apparently have been substantiated. He is making a Labyrinth sequel with TriStar, also with Chris and I think Elaine Columbus who did like Home Alone and Gremlins and things like that, and also two of the Henson children. So we don't know if it's going to be musical. We don't know if any, if any of the characters will be returning. We know when the news first came out, Jonathan and I and my husband Tony, we all in separate conversations but all tied together debated over who might be the Goblin King. But now we don't even know if the Goblin King.

Is going to show up. So yeah, but if you do need an otherworldly human character to serves and antagonists, I think Tilda Swinton still has my vote. I think that was that was one of your suggestions, and I was like, yeah, that's really good. All right. Well, The Hollywood Reporter projects that Captain America Brave New World is on track to open it around ninety million dollars over Valentine's Day weekend. That's against a reported one hundred and eighty million dollar budget, which is a big chunk of change, but notably, that is smaller than a lot of other Marvel films. Now, in some ways, this is the film that's going to test the near future of Marvel movies after several previous movies failed to perform well at the box office, excluding Deadpool and Wolverine of course.

Yeah, speaking of things that will surely do well in the box office, Scary Movie is having a sixth installment in twenty twenty six. I said that with a tongue in cheek intenation. If people did not pick up on it, Yeah, I think it's inspired because we've been getting a whole bunch of new screen movies, and Scary Movie is a whole bunch of horror movies, and Scary Movie is just to spoof on all of those things. So there's a lot of new content for them to riff on.

Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if they have a bunch of AI stuff in it, right, because we had so many AI horror movies coming out, Like, it would shock me if that isn't one of the elements that they lampoon in Scary Movie six, the Scary Movie franchise. Actually, just the movie movies in general have a really terrible track record with me. There's like a couple that I find passively entertaining and then a whole bunch that I just find miserable, Like it's just not a fun experience.

Yeah, I agree, it goes close to like we can we can we can talk about this a little bit more because it's the last episode and three seconds or lest so technically we're done, So technically we don't have to be beholden to it anymore. Like it falls into that shark Nato category, like because it is such self referential humor essentially or referential humor, not self referential, but it and it knows that it's dumb. It it plucks a whole lot of low hanging fruit.

Yeah, there are movies that can do that that I find funny, Like Airplane I still think is a very funny movie, even Airplane two, which is I don't think is as good as the First Airplane and it does repeat a lot of the same jokes, but it's still pretty funny. Or the Naked Gun movies or the Police Squad series upon which the Naked Gun movies were based, those all, to me often succeed where the movie movies frequently fall short, Like a lot of the movie ones. To your point, they'll make a reference and that's the extent of the quote unquote joke, Like it's not even it's not even a joke. It's just here's a thing that you recognize out of context, and that's it. Hahahah yeah yeah, And it's so it's such lazy writing. The first Scary Movie had moments that I thought were pretty funny. The Second Scary Movie had one moment that actually made me really laugh. And then I can't remember if. I think I may have watched the third one, but I didn't even know that we're a fourth and fifth one out there. I do know that the other movie films that I've tried to watch, like I think there was like Epic Movie and date movie and all that kind of stuff, they're just terrible. Like I was, I think I said at one point, this was years ago that they should just stop naming them and just call it generic lampoon movie and then put the year at the end.

I mean, maybe they'll listen and they'll get that idea, and if they do, they owe you royalties. Yeah, I agree. I don't know if I've ever watched any of the scary movies all the way through, but I've certainly seen enough clips. Yeah, every once in a while there's a really funny joke and then it's just and a whole bunch of stuff that just doesn't land for me.

So well, Yeah, and a lot of the humor in those is incredibly crude, which is it's fine if that's your thing. Like, I get that they're catering to a particular demographic, and I don't begrudge that demographic their humor or whatever. But like I think about Airplane, it did have some Airplane has some crass jokes in it. Don't get me wrong. There's some really kind of crude and crass jokes in that movie. But for the most part, it's just silly, and that's what appeals to me. Like, I'm a silly person, so I like silly humor.

So yeah, there's only one show that leans really heavily into the crude and crass, far too much for me that I still enjoy so much that I enjoy rewatching it. And I feel shame for that because it is so crass, but the storytelling is really well done, and it's done in a clever way, often so.

Well. Now you have to tell me what it is. You can't just I don't want to, but you have to. You have to.

Okay, it's future man.

I'm not familiar with this one, so you're safe with me.

Okay, it's it's the guy who played Peta in Hunger Games, Josh Hutchinson, and it's it's a Seth Rogan production. What tells you about how like crass? And it's really raunchy and it's really crass. There's a lot of like sex and potty humor jokes, like a lot, and it's gross. But then it's also it also deals with a lot of time travel uh cliches, and it's very funny in the way that it does it, and the characters have interesting arcs to them that I enjoy. Like, I enjoyed the story, I hated all the crassness and the rudeness. I'm not suggesting this show to anyone. I'm just using it as a point of like, you can do that in a way that is still compelling, or you can do it in a way that is it's you're just watching that and it's just taking up time.

Right. Yeah, there's nothing, there's nothing of more substance behind it or of value. And yeah, I feel like again like a lot of those movie movies fall into that really lazy writing category. And you know, no shade on the people who wrote it. I guess other than you know, maybe, I guess if you don't have to put forth effort and you can still make money, that's a great job to get.

And I can. I am horrible at writing, so I can't even say that they didn't put forth effort.

It's just well, I'm good at writing, and I can say that.

Okay, well you do that.

Well, well we'll now move. We'll now move from Jonathan slagging off actual produced Hollywood writers because I am not one of those, and we'll talk about some trailers and stuff that we saw. So first up.

Well, first of all, I want to say, most of these have in parentheses after them, may not fit. Can cut if you want. I'm surprised he only cut one, and it wasn't the one I thought.

Well, the one I cut was only because it was a trailer that's actually been out for several months, because I almost added it to one of our episodes, like two weeks ago ago. But it was because it's the same It was the exact same trailer that's been out for months. It's just that we didn't notice it, which is can I get a witness? Which does look like it's a pretty compelling movie, but at this point, like that trailer has been out for so long that I mean, it's possible that people listening to this have not heard of it. But yeah, it's a kind of a sci fi like sci fi is like in the background, there's a sci fi world that this is happening in, but that's not really what the movie's about.

Kind of also supernatural, fantastical.

Vaguely yeah, and about things like grief. And it's in a world where people have essentially elected to be euthanized once they hit the age of fifty, which means this is this is my last six months right here.

Ariel so glad it's not true.

Yeah, it's not true. It's essentially like Logan's run except that they made the age limit higher. But but yeah, and again like that's just the backdrop. That's so so go check out. Can I get a witness? We talked about it anyway, You can check out that trailer if you like. But that's technically not in our notes, although I'm sure Ariel will add it before we get to the point where.

She I'll do that. Also, there was a new trailer for I don't remember it was. It wasn't Utopia, it was something.

Else, Nutella. It was a trailer for Nutella.

It's Utopia, it's just spelled differently Newtopia, which was the zombie girlfriend broke up with her boyfriend but is now trying to get back to him.

Oh the Yeah, it's like a Korean film or something, right.

Yeah. Yeah, they came out with a new trailer too, so I'll we didn't put them in our lineup, but I'll add those two just for anybody who wants to watch them.

Groovy. Well, the first trailer we actually have in our lineup is kind of what if John McClain of Diehard fame was a window cleaner and also a woman when stuff went down in a high rise building.

Yeah. Yeah, it's called the Cleaner. It stars Daisy Ridley, which is one of the biggest reasons I put it in our lineup because you know, it stars a Jedi essentially, And yeah, it's interesting. She's like an agent, but she's also she heard cover as a window cleaner.

I don't think it's a cover. I think she works as a wind I think she works as a window cleaner. And her connection is that she's former Armed Forces but for whatever reason, dropped out or left the Armed Forces and took a job as a window cleaner and happens to be cleaning the windows of this building when a group of baddies end up taking over the top of the building for some reason.

Yeah, you know, it kind of looks like generic action but with a Jedi and with a die Hard esque feel.

So yeah, And I'm curious about what the bad guy's motives are because in the trailer, it seems like what they're saying is they are targeting rich people and exposing the crimes these rich people have committed in the pursuit of their wealth, which makes me wonder, Okay, is that going to just be the cover they're using a lah die Hard where Diehard looks like it's going to be a terrorist thing, but really they're just bank robbers essentially. Yeah, so I'm guessing it's going to be something similar to that, because otherwise you're running the risk of the audience being on the bad guys side.

Well, I mean also figure if they are doing that, if they're doing this thing that some people might perceive is not a bad thing in the pursuit of them also becoming rich.

Like yeah, if, like I said, if their true motives are uncovered as being you know, selfish, I can understand that. If that's not what's happening, and like they really are these anarchists or whatever, I have a feeling that right now public sentiment might be more on their side. Uh yeah, it's just an interesting direction to go. So I'm guessing that it has to be a cover story and that their actual you know, motivations are more selfish.

You know. It's an interesting you say, it's an interesting direction to go. But this was started on a while ago, So like movies.

And then we get like this next one opus. It's making me think of, what's the movie that came out not that long ago.

It just started streaming Blink twice?

Is that the one where it's the young women who go to the Yes. That one also on my list to watch soon. Yeah. When I saw that it was on streaming, I'm like, oh, I got to check that out because I was interested when the trailers hit. I just never made it to the theater to see it. Opus looks like it's a slightly more trippy kind of variation on that, Like what if the Menu and Blink Twice had a baby and John Malkovich was there and he was like a cult of personality rock star character.

Yeah, Like the official write up is he's a legendary pop star who mysteriously disappeared thirty years ago, and then a journalist gets surrounded by his cult of sick offence on like an island or something.

Yeah. Yeah, So, like it's this story about a incredibly famous performer who just drops off the map and then suddenly re emerges and invites a bunch of people to come see like an exclusive listening a party for a brand new album, and you know, he hasn't produced anything for like thirty years, so this is a really big deal. I'd be like if suddenly well, first of all, it'd be like if all the Beatles were alive, and secondly that they got back together and just did an album and didn't tell anyone until they invited everybody to come and listen. And but one of the people who for some reason is invited is this young journalist and she immediately thinks something hinky is going on, and something hinky does appear to be going on.

Yeah, the journalist is played by. We talked about John Malkovich being kind of the I guess villain of this movie. The journalist is played by. I've heard her name pronounced a couple of different ways, and I meant to look it up before we started recording, so I apologize if I've mispronounce it because I didn't look it up. It's io a debois at a biri. I always thought it was io a deboiris no at a bierri. That's it. But any how, she was sid on. She is sid on the bear, so she'd been doing a lot of stuff lately. She plays a character named Ariel. That's not why I put it in the lineup, just putting.

That out there. Yeah, it's the trailer looks good like, it looks very creepy. It does look creepy and very trippy. It makes me want to see this movie. It's like, oh, this this kind of feels like something that would be interesting to me. Whereas our next trailer for a movie called Drop is one where I was like halfway there but they didn't stick the landing.

For me, this is one that I thought you might cut.

Well. I kept it because like, there doesn't well one, it's it's a thriller horror movie and it does involve technology, so it's one of those things where we're like, well, there's definitely geeky elements here, but it also I don't know the premise. It's to me like if the name m Night Shayamalan had popped up at the end of this trailer, I would not have been surprised.

Yeah. So the premise is there's this woman who has a single mom basically, and she gets a date with someone via basically like a tinder called I think it's called Drop because you drop your pictures in your files and things to them and messages. And she goes on this date and really seems to be hitting it off, and then a I guess a serial killer.

Breaks into a serial killer slash cyber stalker.

Yeah, d breaks into her home. And threatens her child in the babysitter who is it looks like a very good friend of hers if she doesn't kill people and kill the guy that she's on a date with. And then at some point she's hanging out the window, which gives another level to the meat to the title drop because she's in a high rise.

Yeah, there's a bit in the trailer where her date explains that the only way anyone could be dropping like meme photographs, which is how the at least one of the people responsible for this are communicating to her, Like, I get the feeling there's got to be at least two people, But he says the only way that works is if they're within a certain radius of the phone, So they have to be somewhere in the same general area as the two of them, So they don't quite narrow that down as far as I can tell. But because the killer also shows a feed from the camera system back at the woman's home, that's what makes me think there's at least two people involved in this, and the fact that they're targeting her date for some reason, Like you get the feeling that this ultimately is an assassination attempt on this dude, and the reason will be revealed at some point in the movie, and they want to use her as the assassin by blackmailing her into doing it.

Yeah, you see, I kind of got the impression that he might be the bad guy, which is probably some strings that they're trying to pull. They want to make you suspicious of him and everyone. You said you wouldn't be surprised if the name m. Knight Shyamalan showed up on it. I wouldn't have been surprised if there were like jigsaws behind it because it's a Saw movie, because that's the kind of like, these people do these horrible things.

But what lesson is she supposed to be learning like Saw? At least the argument is that all the people that Saw is torturing have at some point in their past made a terrible decision that was harmful to others, and now they are forced to make some sort of ironic choice related to that.

You're right, they don't show that in the trailer, and I haven't watched many Saw trailers, but I feel like they probably didn't show that in the first Saw trailer.

Well no, because it's kind of a reveal. But I'm just trying to imagine what this seemingly nice woman who's a single mother has done that would merit her being punished, Like, Oh, it turned out she forced her son to watch Teletubbies.

Maybe her husband is really alive and told her not to date anybody else after his passing. I'm sure that's not it. It might even be in the trailer. I'm gonna be real honest. I didn't rewatch this trailer after the first time.

So, yeah, so I watched everything just before we started recording, because of course, I was gone for the whole week. I couldn't watch anything that wasn't connected to Disney. They really indoctrinate you on those boats. But yeah, so I just watched all this stuff. But yeah, I thought it was an interesting premise, but I don't know that it's enough to carry a film, And I'm more than happy to wait for this to come to streaming and to hear what other people's opinions are before I decide whether or not to spend my time watching it.

Yeah. Same, I added a second horror movie for you, Jonathan.

Yeah, you were really really thoughtful. Actually, there's a few movies on this list that kind of fall into the horror category or like they're buddying up to horror. But this one is Hell of a Summer, which is a finn Wolfhart is behind at least partially behind this.

Right, he's at least one of the characters of it.

I think he's also I think he's actually also one of the writers for the film.

Oh, he's a director for it.

Yeah, director. So Hell of a Summer. It's a horror, like a slasher horror slash comedy movie about a summer camp and a bunch of counselors get there and they start doing your typical counselor things that are on the forbidden behaviors list, you know, like smoking, drinking, fooling around, that kind of stuff, and then a slasher is on loose and starting to kill people. But there's jokes.

Yeah, it's it's it's like if you made wet Hot American Summer Oh, slasher film.

Yeah, No, it's it's kind of like that, And it's not it's not set in like the eighties or anything like that. It's it's set in modern times as far as I can tell. But it's so weird to say modern times and say it's different from the eighties.

Yeah, at the same time, you know what I'll say, and maybe again, I watched this a few days ago and you watched it today. There was a little bit of like sex potty humor in it, but not too much, not as much as I would have expected from.

Not so much in the trailer, but I'm guessing in the film there's more. But yeah, it's One of the characters is a twenty four year old who apparently can't let go of this camp. He likes to come back and serve as like headcounts, and I feel.

Like they're making fun of Brennan Lee Mulligan for that one.

Maybe his mother is disappointed in him for holding on to this camp out for so many years. And at one point the other kids all say like, he's got to be the killer. He's fifteen. He's like, I'm twenty four.

I mean, I think, you know what, I think it's really great if you went to a summer camp and it had a good influence on your life to go back and volunteer when you're an adult personally, But I can get how kids wouldn't get that.

You know, Yeah, it looks cute. I would definitely check this one out. This one is one of those where I'm like, okay, I would watch this one.

Yeah. It Also it also gave me Stage Fright, which is another camp slasher film vibes, which you haven't seen yet.

Correct, No, I have not seen Stage Fright.

Okay, yeah, if you have it.

Is it?

I don't?

Is it any good?

Yes? I watched it on a bad movie night, so it's that kind of good.

Got it? Maybe I'll check that out at some point next week. Got a trailer for season two of School Spirits. I have not watched season one of School Spirits, so I don't know what's happening other than there are ghosts that are haunting this school and mysteries are happening.

Yeah. I also haven't watched season one, not because I haven't had interest, but because there's so many things on my list. This is the one. We talked about it when season one came out. It stars Peyton List from Cobra Kai, where she's a girl at a school and then she dies and realizes that there's a whole bunch of kids who are kind of like stuck at the school because that's where they died and they have unfinished business. But in season two, it looks like she may not actually be dead. It looks like maybe one of the ghosts that had been inhabiting the school took over her body, and so her spirit is displaced, which I think is a cool concept.

It is, but it does raise the question of what has her body been up to ever since, I mean, she got displaced.

It looks like they are going to cover that based on the trailer a little bit.

Yeah. Interesting. I don't know that I'm gonna watch it, but I'm still interested to learn more about it. And I say that as someone who has still not watched the first season, nor do I have any idea of what happened in it.

So yeah, next we get I guess this is one of another movie that kind of side buddies up to horror, which is we got the UK trailer for the movie Elevation.

Yes, this is where it says like from the people who brought you a Quiet Place, and like, well, of course it is because it's the same story, except instead of being quiet, you have to be above eight thousand feet or else the monsters get you.

Yeah, and the monsters look the same, look at least very similar to the Quiet Place monsters. I actually watched this UK trailer of Elevation on zero point twenty five speed to try to get a good look at the monster. So really trippy.

It's like the opposite of how you usually watch these horror trailers.

It was so weird. But yeah, they look it looks like a fun, scary alien movie. It doesn't look super unique, you know. It's it's a number of people they get to talk in this one. It has vague like Last of Us feeling vibes, but it's got Anthony Mackie.

And then Marina Bakeran.

Yeah, yeah, is it Maria, But it's not Marina Bakeran.

Is it not? I thought it was when I was watching it, but I'm really bad at recognizing people.

It might be it might be right, Yeah it is Marina Bacheran. I get her confused. There's maybe there's an Italian actress who I get her confused.

Oh you're thinking you're thinking of Oh, I'll get it in a second. Hang on, it's uh, all right, now, I got to look it up because but I know who you mean, because I know you mean Monica Balucci.

Yeah, I get her confused with Monica Balucci. Yeah, there's no reason for it just the mb in their names.

But well, they're both gorgeous brunettes too.

They are, and they're both really great actresses. But here's the thing is, I look at the character and it's a good design for an alien. It looks kind of like a dinosaur panther mix with like tentacles.

Yeah. It made me think of a displacer beast in D and D.

Yeah. But my question is, if they can't stand high elevations and their take and they're killing out like urban areas, why why are they on Earth? It feels like our structure won't fit their needs.

An excellent question that I would also pose to m Night Shyamalan in his movie Signs, where his aliens are allergic to water and our planet is covered by that by like seventy eight percent of our planet is covered in the stuff that kills the aliens.

I guess, I guess I have that question about a lot of aliens because like alien design, we don't have to go I put maybe a discussion about alien design in here. But like whenever there's an invasion, it feels like an invasion movie. It feels weird when it doesn't feel like this would be a good like it feels like the aliens should look at our ecosphere and also our infrastructure and go, m this isn't the place for us and leave.

Yeah. Yeah, like a lot of the movies where apparently Earth has been picked to be the source of something, whether it's energy or food or whatever, and you look at it, you're like, really, because we've been doing a great job of messing all that stuff up for the last several decades, and you might be better off somewhere else where people haven't done that. I feel like this movie, like I like the people involved, I like Anthony Mackie, and I like Marina Brackern. But but like you were saying, it feels so similar in concept and tone to so many other movies we got, you know, whether it's what was it bird Box or A Quiet Place or that one where you know the people had to tie themselves to their like go don't let go, like all of the or the one what was the one with Nicholas Cage and those two sons, Like there's like all of these movies that have these similar concepts behind them of there's this monstrous or or several Arcadian you know, several monstrous beings that will get you if you don't follow these rules. And I'm just I feel like they all are telling the same story.

So and here's the thing. I liked a quiet place. You know, there are definitely some big plot and you can't think about them too hard, but it was a fun ride. I like a lot of alien movies. But yeah, it feels like we've been getting a lot lately and that they're pretty similar and now.

We're getting so it's like there was that maybe this is going to be the tail end of that trend for a while, because I just feel like it's kind of played out and now right what we're in right now is the height of the AI as bad guy like trend. Yeah, and I'm worried that's going to stick around for a while. But I'm just like, I get it. I agree AI is potentially very dangerous. None of your stories are really telling me anything I don't already know, and they all seem to be the same story. Like it feels like someone wrote one treatment and like twenty different writers wrote a screenplay based off that treatment, and those are the movies we're getting now.

Yeah, Yeah, I almost went into this conversation about the AI that we had is not really the AI that's being portrayed, and some people would argue it's not even really AI. But that's a conversation for a different time because I haven't done enough research on it.

Yeah, I mean well, and yeah, artificial intelligence is complicated. That's all we really have to say for right now. Well, let's talk about this trailer that you have included, because I guess reading is geeky.

It is. It is if you want some like thematic whiplash. The next trailer I added, it's a super short one. It's for like a BBC show movie, TV movie I'm not sure, called Miss Austin. It follows Jane Austen's lesser known sister and her burning some of Jane's Austen's like private letters to keep her life more private, Jane Austen being the person who wrote like pride and prejudice and sense and sensibility, which I would wager are geeky.

Yeah. Also, you find out Jane Austen has tentacles, yes, and she can't go above eight thousand feet.

Yes, and she hears you if you whisper. You know, it's just if you're looking for something delightful and periody, because I think period pieces very easily fall into the geeky sphere. Then this might be a fun, happy calm, like a cozy thing to watch.

Yeah, yeah, I think it certainly deserves a place in our lineup, because as much as I'm joking about it, like, if there were a fun series about you know, like C. S Lewis, or about Lloyd Alexander, you know, anything like that, I would be interested in seeing those. So yeah, absolutely I think it belongs here.

Now, Okay, if there are any TV producers out there, I would totally watch something on C. S Lewis. I know that most people know him from like Chronicles of Narnia, but some of his other stuff is really.

Cool, So yeah, my Chronicles of Narnia is really cool too.

Yeah.

Yeah, just because it got produced a lot doesn't mean it's bad.

Which I think. Isn't there another one coming? Isn't Greta Gerwig doing a Narnia series on Netflix?

We talked about, Wow, we might have. We might have, but you know me, my brain is Swiss cheese.

So if it hasn't been dropped, but I doubt it would be because.

It's hard to say, just because like studios have gone through so much tumultuous change over the last couple of years, really ever since the pandemic. It's hard to keep track of which projects are still in production and which ones were set aside.

So google ai AI over you So take that into account with accuracy, because it's not always, says Greta Gerwig is adapting The Chronicles of Narnia for Netflix, and the film will be released in theaters on Thanksgiving Day and then on streaming on Christmas Day. It's untitled of this year, twenty twenty six, next year. Okay, I'm guessing the production of that has got to be extensive.

To oh sure. That's why I was like surprised. I was like, oh my gosh, it's been in stealth mode.

But I have like her take on the Barbie movie was fantastic, so I'm really looking forward to see what she does with the story. I think she's a good director.

I hope Ryan Gosling is mister Tumness.

That would be amazing.

I'm just tumbness. We also got a new trailer for Mickey seventeen. This is the send in the Clones movie.

Yeah, it has nothing to do with Mickey Mouse no.

Yeah, we talked about this once before because we watched we saw the teaser a few weeks ago.

Yeah, so the original teaser didn't give us a whole lot of the overarching story beyond there's this guy who signed up to be cloned whenever he dies to do like grunt work, and then one day he finds another of his clones. There's only supposed to be one of them at a time. This second trailer gives us a little bit more story into like his personal connections with other people and kind of the the trajectory he goes once he finds out he has another clone in trying to maybe get out of this crappy life he didn't fully read into before he signed up for.

Yeah, it really made me wonder why is there a policy to eradicate all versions of a clone if there ever are two of them? And what you were just saying just made me think, Oh, maybe it's so that you can't have someone be like, oh good, someone else is here to carry the bag and I can go off and live my life without just being an expendable body thrown into some deadly situation so that the company is able to profit from it.

Yeah, I have. Christopher Pattinson has done a lot of stuff and I haven't seen all of it. Christopher not Christopher Robert Rober Pattinson, Okay, Christopher Robin.

No, Christopher Robin went to the hundred Acre Wood and found another Christopher Robin there and they had to fight to the death. Well, Winnie the Pooh watched.

It was in a honey jar, a giant honey jar. Yeah. No, Robert Pattinson, He's done a bunch of stuff. I haven't watched a lot of it, but of the things I have watched, I think this might be the most excited I've been for one of his properties.

So, yeah, this it's striking me as one of those kind of quirky science fiction thrillers with like a pretty big sense of humor behind it too, Like it's I don't think it's an outright comedy, but I think there's a lot of humor, almost like satire humor that's feeding into it. So I'm definitely intrigued because if it's handled well, I think it could be another one of those, you know, sort of satirical science fiction films that gets a decent following something like like a I mean not nearly as violent as RoboCop, but something along those lines.

Yeah, I agree, Okay, more thematic with lash.

Yeah, we go from I didn't have time to reassemble the trailers to put them in an order that made sense.

Look, I expected to do it, and then I saw you in here. I'm like, I'm just not going to mess with the order because you're going through it. So if you hadn't been in yet, I was going to re order it, but I didn't get there. The next is for we got a second trailer for Queen of the Ring, which is the female wrestler story that we talked about the other week. Still looks good.

Yeah, yeah, it gave us a little bit more of the story behind it. You also, if you are someone who follows wrestling at all, will hear a very familiar name being mentioned in this A certain it's actually the father of someone who became known as the head hauncho of wrestling in the eighties, nineties, and two thousands. Yeah, Vince McMahon Senior would be that name. But yeah, you know, I think there's going to be a little bit of revisionist history in here, like it's meant to be. Let's tell the story that was never really told. But I think it's also going to perhaps elevate the impact that these people had on the business, because if we're being brutally honest, women in wrestling were pretty much buried for decades, Like they had a real moment up through the seventies and into the early eighties, and then you know, largely because of what was then called WWF, they were relegated to being valets and managers and eye candy for the audience, like to the point where the role of women in wrestling for a lot of the late eighties into the two thousands was largely dehumanizing and pretty despicable in my opinion.

So while I think that we're getting past that now, me.

Too, Oh yeah no, because there now there are pay per views where women are headlining the pay per view and putting on just as good, if not better, of a match than the men are. And they've always been capable of doing that if they were given the right amount of time to train and prepare and to work on their craft. But for a long time that just wasn't the case. Like there were women like lead Up and Victoria, Trish Stratus and others who kind of change that game in more recent years. The thing that, like, I think the story is important. I think it needs to be told for Queen of the Ring, But I also would caution people against feeling like, oh, this is what established women their place in professional wrestling, because for a long time that just wasn't true.

Yeah, you know, I based on a true story. Is is always based on a true story. But you know, it does go into her dealing with with trying to get like rights and on the business end of things, and you know, even if the outcomes are a little different, I'm sure that struggle was very true and real.

Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, And I'm sure that like, like, there's some great points that are made in this trailer where someone like her son says to her at one point, your name is the one that shows up on the tickets, not the promoters. The promoter's name doesn't show up on the tickets. That's not what selling the tickets. You're selling the tickets, which is totally true. Like, you know, the wrestlers were the ones that people were coming to see. They weren't going there because they heard oh so and so promoter put the show together. No one cared who the promoters. Were they cared who was showing up to wrestle?

Yeah, yeah, that is true. I'm still looking forward to it.

Yeah, me too, Me too. Like I said, I think that the story itself is still important and I look forward to seeing it.

So now we're going to go from a Queen of the Ring to something called small town Big Story that when I saw it, I was really surprised. Wasn't a Simon Pegg property.

No, it's a Chris o'dowelled property. So he's Ireland's version of Simon Peg.

Yeah. Yeah. It stars Christina Hendricks, who is from Ireland but then goes and lives in the US for a long time and becomes a TV producer and then goes back to Ireland. Tell me if I'm misremembering this. Goes back to Ireland and then a bunch of like weird supernatural stuff starts to happen.

Well, whether it's supernatural or not remains to be seen, but she does return to Ireland in order to run a production of something you never In the trailer, you don't really find out what the production is, but you know she's also taking opportunities to check in on her ex, who still lives in this small town in Ireland. And meanwhile, this small town is also a site where weird stuff is happening, primarily that weird stuff being that birds occasionally just drop dead out of the sky.

Yeah. The only thing that makes me feel like it's supernatural is that at one point in the trailer she asks, uh, shamey shit, I don't remember the other the leading male if he's going to tell people about their past, and it shows them young making out in the woods on a very specific day when like bright light appears out of the sky, right.

So, like, is it Aliens? Is it? Is it one of those chapter and one of those Irish helicopters we hear so much about. Is it leprechauns? We don't know. But yeah, also that could just be a memory where like the memory itself has been, you know, changed over time. We don't know. Like this is a series that is going to be on I think sky in the UK and in Ireland. I'm not sure where we'll be able to see it here, but it looks charming. It definitely is one of those things where it's a small town filled with quirky individuals kind of thing.

Yeah, it does say that we're going to be able to watch it this year in the USA online, but I don't know where. Maybe Sky can we watch Sky Atlantic in the USA.

I don't think so, but I think it would probably be on some other partnered service like Hulu or Amazon or something or Netflix, who knows.

I hope that we get to see it, much like I hope eventually the Australian Office comes here. Yeah.

Yeah, Okay, Well, I feel like that story's over. Now we have a movie that doesn't belong in our lineup at all.

Really we can take it out then.

Well, no, we can keep it, like because you said it's sweet and it's uplifting, and I agree. I just don't feel it's geeky.

I you know, I think it's I think it's geeky because it does deal with the impacts of social.

Media well and of estrangement from family. And also, I mean, it's the kind of movie that I could easily envision you in, Like if you had told me that you had auditioned for this twice, I would not be surprised at all.

That's very kind of you, Jonathan.

Yeah, I don't know why I said it like that.

I don't know why you said it like that either, I'm.

Also the editor, so I get to decide what stays in and what goes.

But yeah, this is a story about a woman who has a bad relationship with her father and they become estranged, and then she tries to look them up one day but finds a different Bob Trevino, Bob Travino being the name of her father, and they end up connecting and she kind of ends up getting a surrogate family that's really understanding and carrying out of it. John Leguizamo plays the other Bob Trevino. It it just looks heartwarming, and I just there's so much horror movie out there that I wanted to promote a heartwarming movie as well.

That I think is totally legit. Like this does look like a very sweet movie about with familial trauma, finding friendship, being supportive. Like John Legzamo's character seems like a genuinely good person who is concerned for the well being of this person he's never met, and like, you know, I feel like that is the sweet kind of story that is nice to get, especially in a time where a lot of people are feeling like untethered and disconnected and afraid and you know, ends anxious and all of those negative things like having something where and this is you know, supposedly based off an actual story, like something that actually happened, although I imagine great liberties were taken in the process. But like a story about someone reaching out and showing support to a total stranger because they recognize that need is there, as well as someone who's going through their own struggles and trying to find a way to reconcile them. I think that's going to resonate with a lot of people.

Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely going to see this one. I'll probably see it in the I think it's coming out in theaters and if so, I'm going to see it there because I want to support more movies like this.

That's totally cool. Our last story is to talk a bit about the Oscar nominations that came out. Now, obviously we've already had the Golden Globes, which is from the Foreign Press Association or actually now I think it might be called something else because there was that whole like organizational change of Golden Globes. Anyway, the Oscars, obviously, the Academy is all based off the Academy of emotional pictures. So we've got the nominees for stuff, and a lot of geeky properties have some representation in the various categories. For instance, Best Picture includes The Substance, which is, you know, a horror movie with Demi Moore, Wicked which is a horror movie with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Rivo, and Dune Part two which is a horror movie with Florence Pugh and Timothy show In Zendaya.

Yeah. Yeah, and that's just Best Picture. Nostatu also gets some nods. Sing Sing which isn't necessarily geeky, but is kind of because it deals with the impacts of theater on people's lives, it gets a nod or the actor from that gets a nod. Yeah, all kinds of stuff. Gladiator too, which I guess is geeky.

Yeah, I'm guessing that gets like some technical nominations. I don't expect that design. Yeah, So Cynthia Arrivo got a nomination for Lead Actress, Ariana Grande got a nomination for Supporting Actors. Demi Moore got the nomination for Lead Actress. So again, like some more geeky representation there. If you started going to animated features. You've got Inside Out Too, which was like the top performing box office film or one of the top ones for twenty twenty four. I don't remember if it actually came out as the number one or not, because Mowana Too did really well too, I can't remember. I remember Disney had like three of the top four spaces.

One of those was Wolverine and Deadpool, right.

Might have been, but I think it was Deadpool and Wolverine. Oh that one, Yeah.

You know, they're like, that would be that would be brilliant if they gave us a second one that was from the other perspective.

Wolverine and Deadpool. Yeah, well, then you would get you would skip out on all the Deadpool or all the rather all the Wolverine variants, because you would just be following the one that eventually pairs up with Deadpool.

Uh.

We also got let's see. Other animated films that were nominated include Wallace and Grammet, Vengeance, Most Foul, as well as The Wild Robot, So those are up there. Doune also got a nomination for Achievement in Cinematography. Nosferatu did as well. You know, costume design, like you said, as Gladiator two which is up against Nosfaratu, which is up against Wicked. That's a heck of a group right there. You've also got You've also got a couple other movies Conklave and a complete unknown in that category. But I kind of want to see a face off between Gladiator too, Nosferatu, and Wicked.

Yeah, that would be really cool. Uh it is. It is the only year that going into Oscar season, I have seen more movies in the theater nominated than my friend who holds her Oscar party every year at.

The get Go. Yeah, her Oscar party. I have never actually I think maybe I went to one, but yeah, she's a mutual friend of ours, holds this big Oscar party and she tries typically to catch every single film that's been nominated for Best Picture before the Oscars so that she has kind of a working knowledge of them before the Oscars are announced. And then she even does like a little thing where everyone writes down their pick for what's gonna win one award. I always think that's tricky because I am convinced, and I actually I'm not just convinced. I know for a fact that members of the Academy often will vote on stuff that they either haven't seen or they haven't seen all of them, so they only like, I've seen two of these movies. I'm going to vote for one of the two I saw, or I'm voting for this one because it sounds like it would be better.

Yeah, yeah, you know, and she still might see a bunch of these movies. But usually when they announced the OSCAR nominated movies, she's like, I've seen this many and this year I've seen more than her.

So which ones have you seen?

I saw? Wicked?

Wicked? Yeah, Wicked?

What's the other one that I saw? I'm scrolling down now because yes, doune too. Okay, she hadn't seen either of those.

Wow, so she hasn't seen any.

She saw one and for which one? But it wasn't those two.

Yeah, I have not seen any of these at all.

For sure, you saw the Substance.

It's on my list to watch, but I have not yet seen it. So yeah, I have not seen any of the one. But then like I've been pretty you know, slow on catching movies for the last few years. If we're being honest, like I've seen a few, I've made the trip out to the theater to see. If you and I've watched a couple at home, but it's it's uh, I've really fallen behind, which is great for someone who hosts a pop culture podcast.

Well, but it's nice because sometimes we talk about things that fill off of other people's radars too, and so when we bring it up, it kind of gives it a little bit of a resurgence.

And the nice thing is is that in a couple of weeks, I'm going to have two fourteen hour airplane rides and I'll be able to watch some stuff and catch up on things.

If you watch things that I can also stomach to watch, let me know, and I'll try to watch them too so we can have an educated conversation about them.

I'll let you know after I ride the first flight when I find out what's actually available for me to watch.

Yeah, for sure, for sure, that's it. You know. As always, we actually had a lot of discussions this time. There were a lot of things to talk about, but yep, a lot of a lot of just Gavin as well, and I like that. So I like talking with you, my friend.

Thank you. I have missed doing it. Over this past week. I had very limited connectivity while I was on the boat.

Yeah, sometimes you need to disconnect. But if people don't want to disconnect and they want to connect with us, how do they reach you, Jonathan.

Well, to reach me, you're going to need to take a little stroll through the woods. And you're just going to walk through the woods and sort of enjoy the experience and listen to the sounds of nature, which will not include the crumpling of paper, but might include you know, burdyes, singing in the trees and such. And as you walk through, you're going to see like another person kind of up ahead, sort of somewhat blocked from your view because of the trees and brush and stuff. So you're going to keep walking thinking, oh, well, that must be Jonathan. I can ask him my question, And as you get closer you realize, wait, that's not Jonathan, that's me. It's another me. And you're going to get right there where suddenly you see the other you has pulled out a knife. And then you'll hear here, catch this, and a knife will be coming flying at you from the woods. But but you know in a way where you can actually catch the knife.

Not the.

Oh i'm stabbed kind of way, and you're gonna pick up that knife, and then you're gonna see Winnie the Poohs stroll out of the woods and say it's a honey pot. And then the two of you, you and your clone are gonna have to fight it out. Whichever one of you wins will then have your arm raised in the air. It may not be you, by the way, it might be your clone, but don't worry. Your clone's gonna have the same question you did, and you're gonna look over and see who raised your hand in victory, and hey, it just happens to be me, so you can ask me then.

Wow, that was impressive, Jonathan.

Thank you.

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