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If all of you guys are having a great week, it is good to be back. Felt could to get some skiing in the northern Arizona. Here's the plan for the rest of this week. Obviously I missed a bunch of basketball over the course of the weekend. It's going to take me about a day to get caught up. But I wanted to get something out quickly, so this morning I'm just gonna do a short show. We're going to talk Celtics Thunder off the top of big deep dive into Celtics Thunder, and then I'm gonna talk a little bit about Mavericks Lakers from last night and this oh and to Lakers road trip. That's all we're doing in this morning's episode. As soon as I'm done, though, I'm gonna start diving back into film. We're gonna have a bunch of stuff coming out throughout the rest of the week, including tomorrow. We got just a ridiculous game between the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Oklahoma City Thunder to get into that one's gonna be a lot of fun. We also have a mail bag leader this week. 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So it's always fun watching two really damn good basketball teams because it's fun to watch teams that consistently do all the things that good basketball teams do, meaning they don't just real on their talent. You know, I think it's important for us to differentiate between super talented and super talented and plays good basketball. There are a lot of really talented teams in the league. I do think Boston is the most talented roster in the league, but I also thought they were the most talented roster in the league in twenty twenty two. They just weren't playing as good a brand of basketball. There was growth that occurred between then and now. It's too simple to just say, oh, they're that talented. It's an important thing to bring up. They are the most talented team in the league, but they also play one of the best brands of basketball that we see around the league. And same goes for Okay. See, they don't just rely on their talent. They hunt every single possible advantage, every single possible margin that will help them win basketball games. Just a couple examples to list, like pushing in transition off of makes That's an important thing that all good teams do, and it works, especially when they're cross matches, which is something that's happening in this game, right Like if Hartenstein's guarding Porzingis on offense, but Porzingis is guarding case on Wallace on defense, there's a cross match there, right, Like if guys are guarding different guys the opposite ends of the floor when the ball transitions, meaning like when there's a miss or when there's a steal, there is a moment where the guy that you're supposed to be guarding is far away, and so pushing in transition you can get a lot of cross matches. You can get initial advantages when a team just isn't back and you can maybe get them in rotation. Sometimes you'll get a complete breakdown and get a layup or dunk. There were several at the beginning of this game where both the Celtics and the Thunder were getting like dunks and easy shots in transition just by pushing off of makes. That's something that good teams do. You should you should push on a make because the entire purpose of why we run offense is to get an advantage. And if you can get an advantage without having to run offense, then by all means you should look to do that right. Generating advantages with basic fundamentals in the half court, So like quick moves off the catch, Derek White catching in the corner even though he's guarded, but just quickly ripping baseline and beating his man off the dribble suddenly Drew Holliday's going to wide open three at the top of the key right, or case On Wallace did something similar to Jason Tatum caught in the wing, just quickly racked to the right, I got in the lane and made like that lefty scoop shot that he made in the lane. Those are things that good basketball teams do, Like, Okay, nothing's open right now, somebody's got to create an advantage. When I catch, I'm ripping and I'm going to see if I can beat this dude off the dribble and maybe make something good happen off ball player movement Again, for both teams, guys are constantly cutting and relocating around the three point line, crashing the offensive glass out of the corner to get additional possessions ball pressure, Like, how often in that second half, in particular, do you see the Celtics end up in like a late clock situation where they haven't run anything just because okay See's pressuring the ball and not letting them get the ball up the floor quickly. It's always fun watching two great basketball teams go at it, and I really enjoyed watching the film and this one. I thought the story of the game, though, was okay C's ability to contain the basketball in the second half compared to the first half. I'll talk about containing the basketball a lot in the NBA because it's a concept that reminds me of lying play in the NFL. It's the push and pull that determines most possessions. Whether you can run the ball has everything to do with whether or not your line can get a push. Whether or not you can throw the ball has a lot to do with your ability to protect the quarterback long enough for receivers to get open so that you can make a throw down the field, right, Like I just the reason why I always fall back on this example is like I was a Dallas Cowboys fan growing up. All my families from the Dallas Fort Worth area, and like I rooted for that team in the mid twenty tens where it was like we were just running all over everybody and the game was just easy. We could go on the road to Green Bay, on the road to Pittsburgh and we could just run the ball down everyone's throat and it didn't matter, you know what advantages the other team had because we just could control the line of scrimmage. And then recent years it's the exact opposite, right, Like guys get hurt, guys retire all of a sudden. Tyron Smith, who was like the foundation of that line, is like just getting beat by quicker players, you know, and it just all of a sudden things start to break down. They don't look as good's. It is the push and pull that determines most possessions in football, and the same thing goes for basketball. Like if you are giving up straight line drives and guys are hard helping, and you're existing in rotation, and every player is playing with an advantage, the game looks really easy. But if you're containing the ball and you're not allowing dribble penetration, and you're not allowing and you're not getting into situations where you have to hard help, and you're not existing in rotation, and guys are constantly playing with a guy in front of them instead of a guy closing out at them, the entire situation can tilt in favor of the defense, and most of it comes down to can you contain the ball. In the first half of this game, Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and chrisops porzingis in particular through drives, power drives, trying to go through people and post ups. Just kept getting the ball into the paint, going through guys, attacking switches with seals, winning that physicality battle at the point of attack. Boston had forty points in the paint in this game. Thirty four of them came in the first half, and then in the second half started to win that same battle. It shifted towards ok see. Mark Dagenal attributed it to lou Dort moving over to Jalen Brown happened in like the late first half, Jalen Brown hit like another like little right shoulder fade away in the lane. I think over Shae if I remember correctly, and next thing you know, it's Lou Dort that's guarding Jalen instead of Jason Tatum. I didn't. I think that certainly played a role, but I thought it was everybody, because there's just so much switching in this game. Like it wasn't just Lou Dort on an Island, it was really everyone in Oklahoma City, Jersey just competing and winning that battle. Kenridge Williams standing Jalen Brown up and getting the steal, Aaron Wiggins standing guys up, shake Gildas, Alexander winning some of those post up battles that he had been losing in the first half of the game. Case on Wallace holding his ground better than he had been then. Everyone pressuring the ball. Tatum and Brown were fumbling the basketball everywhere, so even when they did draw and help, they couldn't get the ball out quickly enough to the guys that could make them pay for it. They okay, So he started to dominate at the point of a the paint touches fell off a cliff, the quality shots fell off of a cliff, and Okac completely took control of the game. The stats that came out of that Okac defensive effort and in the second half were crazy. They allowed just twenty seven points, just six points allowed in the paint after allowing thirty four in the first half. Of the seventeen catch and shoot jump shots they allowed, fourteen of them were classified by guarded percentergy. Again, this is a team in Boston that generates sixteen unguarded catch and shoot jump shots a game which ranked second in the entire NBA. Believe it or not, the Chicago Bulls get over twenty. That's actually number one in the league. But a big part of that is like guys that you concede shots too. But Boston again consistently generates open shots against everybody. They only generated three unguarded catch and shoot jump shots against the Thunder in the second half. Boston could not generate good looks. And there's gonna be talk about shooting. And for the record, there is definitely a gap in shooting in this game. Like both teams attempted thirty on one catch and shoot jump shots total, but Boston made five in Oklahoma City made thirteen. Like they definitely shot better. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that's not the case. But nineteen of Oklahoma City's thirty one catch and shoot jump shots were unguarded. Only eight of the thirty one catch and shoe jump shots for Boston in the entire game were unguarded, including only three in the second half when Oklahoma City took control. So, like, if you leave that game as a Celtics fan or as a Celtics player, as a Celtics coach thinking they just outshot you, that would be a mistake. They outplayed you, got better shots, and then they outshot you on those better shots. And remember these things are all connected. You build rhythm, you start to make the contested ones. When you're getting open ones that you're also making, you build rhythm and confidence you start to knock down shots. The thunder were able to get out in transition off of their defense in the second half. They had just five transition points in the first half. They had twenty transition points in the second half. They forced Boston into ten turnovers in the second half, scored seventeen points off of them getting just five points in transition or off of turnovers in that first half. Again, twenty of your fifty points that you score in the second half, we're in transition. That's forty percent of their offense. Oklahoma City at twenty transition points, Boston at twenty seven points total in the second half, and then when they were in the half court. Shay was able all game to get consistent dribble penetration. Early in the game, he just made it clear, Like first couple possessions, he beat Jalen Brown cleanly off the dribble with the straight line drive twice in the first two minutes, did it to Jason Tatum a few times in the game. He just was able to beat everybody off the dribble. He's got this move. Shae has this move. It's like a between the legs dribble that flows into a dribble drive. But there's like a change of pace element to it, so like he'll be operating slowly off that dribble and he'll slowly dribble through the legs. But then as soon as he's ready to go, like he'll be slowly dribbling through his legs and as soon as that ball touches the right hand, he'll just explode forward and it's almost like a It almost like lulls you to sleep. But in addition to his elite first step, it just makes them really really difficult to keep in front. I thought his shot making was huge, especially at the start of the second half when he kind of like began things as Oklahoma City started to take control. And then I thought he made to play the game in the fourth quarter blocking Jason Tatum at the rim and transition and then down on the other end feeding Isah Hartenstein on the lob for that poster, Donk, what the hell? What a hell of an exclamation point for Oklahoma City to end that game. I thought he pretty clearly looked like the best player on the floor in this one. Again, Tatum will have another shot. These two teams play in mid March in Boston, and they might play again in the finals. That's certainly a possibility of maybe even one of the most likely possibilities. But round one for this matchup in the regular season went pretty resoundingly to Shay in my opinion. A couple other thunder guys I wanted to shout out. Lou Dort was just a physical, wrecking ball all game. He's fighting dudes off of spots, pressuring the ball, forcing turnovers, winning contested rebound battles. He's super valuable in this matchup because he's quick enough to beat Tatum in Brown to spots, but he's also strong enough that they can't go through him, which makes him unique in that, like those guys almost have to get off of dort in order to really create an advantage against this team. Kase On Wallace, the Sea started porzingis on him in this game. And again, the idea there is you're trying to make Kayson Wallace make above the break threes. Theoretically, that's like the idea behind it, right, and you know, first possession it worked like kase On Wallace like caught with you know, nine or eight seconds on the shot clock and just dribbled into a contested mid range pull up, you know, like a bad shot. But for the rest of the game he settled down and you know he knocked down to catch and shoot three. He was driving hard into openings like coming off of action, which is something I talked about with the Mavericks series last year, Like when you have a guy like Derek Jones, it's being guarded by Porzingis. Get him the ball so that he can go downhill and like in his screening action because Porzingis is going to struggle to navigate screens. Never did that. Kason Wallace consistently involved attacking in transition. That was a big thing in the second half. But also just like coming off of dhos and getting into the lane, making floaters, making scoop shots, attacking be a threat. When they put Porzingis on you like that, they're saying, we don't think you're a threat to score. That's literally the idea there. That's why they put Jason Tatum on centers typically so that they can switch that actual they actually started with Drew Holliday on Hartenstein in this one so they can switch, but they do it with both heart Holiday and Tatum. But like the idea is, they want the Seas want to switch ball screens with your normal ballscreen partners, and they want to take your weakest defensive offensive player and put Porzingis on him. Case on Wallace had to make him pay, and he did. Made six shots in this game. Aaron Wiggins, this dude is such a pro. He's sneaky. One of the older and more experienced guys on this Thunder roster. But he just plays in his role. He defends, he rebounds, he makes quick decisions off the catch. He's been one of the more reliable catch and shoot guys for the Thunder this year. The Thunder just really resounding statement in that second half against the Celtics. On the Celtics front, I didn't think Tatum was bad, but I didn't think he was very good either. His biggest job on this team is to get the defense in rotation, and he just wasn't a to do so. He had just one assists, which was his lowest total of the season. And again, the Seas just didn't generate open looks in this game, and that was the main reason why shots didn't go in. Right. If you're not gonna get open looks, they're probably not going to go in. This particular matchup will test Tatum's ceiling. Should these teams meet in the finals, Tatum is going to have to in this matchup consistently get to matchups. He likes beat that matchup and generate easy shots. If he doesn't, the Thunder will beat them, and he's capable. Here's a lot of size advantages on the floor. But he's got to do a better job than he did in that second half of getting compromising Oklahoma City's defense to generate quality shots. Jalen Brown is just the tail of two halves. Like first half he's going through guys and causing problems for the Thunder and the Paint. But then in the second half it's a lot of the old Jalen, a lot of like losing his handle against pressure, tough shots, election, a couple of really bad turnovers in the fourth quarter where he's just driving into the teeth of the defense and getting swiped, just like kind of old school stuff that we used to deal with with Jalen in the past. Right. Porzingis, on the one hand, his post up mismatching looked good. They went to him three times against Thunder. Smaller players in the post scored every single time. But the Celtics defense could not get stops against Oklahoma City with Porzingis on the floor. They had a one twenty two defensive rating with Porzingis on the floor in this game. So in the big picture, this is good for the league, you know, especially with where I was at a few a few months ago, Like not even like one month ago, I thought Boston was on a tier by themselves at the top of the league. Now it feels like we have three completely legit teams in our contender tier, in our top tier contender tier, and they're all good in different ways. Like Boston is the hyper versatile, older, more experienced team, right they've won a championship. Cleveland is the insanely good offense, and Oklahoma City is the insanely good defense. Right. Those are like the three calling cards, but all three of those teams have different approaches to win it. Each team has a weakness, like Boston doesn't look as sharper as focused as they were last year. But I think this okaysee in Cleveland run is gonna be a wake up call for them, and I think Boston's gonna play much better in this next portion of the season. Oklahoma City's shooting is still super unreliable. Even after shooting the lights out last night, they're still just twentieth and three point percentage on the season. Cleveland has some entry points into their defense with a couple of small guards, and they're not a good defensive rebounding team. I think they're twentieth or twenty seconds. I think they're bottom ten in defensive rebounding, so, like all teams have their weaknesses as well. This is why I would say, like, there's no point in taking regular season victory laps Oklahoma City. You're about to go on the road to Cleveland. You can absolutely lose that game, right Like Boston again is gonna play you again at home. It's gonna be a different type of game. This is This is a battle that's gonna be determined in the postseason. This is not a battle that's gonna be determined in the regular season. All three of these teams can beat each other again. Cleveland absolutely could beat Oklahoma City tonight. Like this can go a bunch of different ways. I will say though, again I used to view Boston in a tier by themselves on top of the league. I no longer feel that way. I feel like Cleveland and Oklahoma City absolutely deserve to be on the same tier with them. Moving on to Lakers. Maps interesting game in the first half, the Lakers weren't really all that locked in, but this is a MAVs offense that has struggled to score when Luca and Kyrie have been out, and so the Lakers still kind of had a lead there in that late first half, but I thought the Lakers lost this game in two particular stretches. First was the Clay rundown in the first half, and the first three that he hit wasn't bad defense, but it was conservative defense. He's running off of a screening action towards the left wing. Max Christy's trailing him, sprinting as hard as he can. He's a little detached, but he's trying, and Ad like he could show up at the level. Probably should because it's Klay Thompson, but like I think at that point he hadn't hit a three yet and he would have given up an easy pocket pass if he had stepped up, So Ad just kind of token half shows basically, like, let's see Clay can make the shot, and he makes a shot, so whatever he makes the first one, it's a relatively tough shot. He gets a conservative defensive look. But the next two threes he hit were just total defensive breakdowns, like Ruey guarding I think Spencer Dinwoodie on the play and Austin Reeves is being guarded by Clay and there's a two man game. It's obviously a switch It's just that should be a switch. Every single time Austin thinks it's a switch. Ruey just stands still and Clay slips out of it and knocks down to three. Just a complete defensive breakdown from Ruey. Ha Chamura gives up a wide open three to Klay Thompson. He hits it, and then the one that he hit in the left corner in transition was Lebron's fault. He just the rim was already accounted for. His job was to spray out to shooters. He should have been on Clay in the left corner. He wasn't there, and he knocked it down. So gives up a shooting run to Klay Thompson. They immediately go on this run. It's in twenty one to three run spanning halftime. Now, all of a sudden, the Lakers go from up by six to down by twelve. But then the Lakers play a nice stretch of basketball and they cut the lead down to five, and they promptly give up another shooting run to Jaden Hardy once again started in something that was a conservative look. It was his own look. Ball gets swung to the left wing. Jaden Hardy is the right read to try to beat the zone, and again the zone is designed to concede that sort of thing. He knocks down the shot whatever, But on the very next possession, Max Christy just loses him in the same spot. I think he's trying to check a cutter's like Max to Klebo was like cutting down the lane, and Max was like trying to hit him, but he like went way underneath him, like like way in the paint. And as a result, Jayden Hardy's just wide open for three on the left wing knocks it down again again. He had just hit one from the same spot. It's a defensive breakdown. You can't be like, you can't be detached from the guy who just made a shot in that spot. And then on the next possession, Gabe and Max switch, presumably so that that mistake doesn't happen again, and then Gabe makes the exact same mistake. Kleba cuts into the lane, Gabe tries to get up underneath him to check him, and they just swing the ball up to Jaden Hardy and he knocks down to three again. I literally couldn't believe it when I was watching the tape, Like you just switched presumably to patch up this defensive bright down, and then you made the exact same defensive breakdown right after that. On the next possession, Ad smokes a little floater in the lane. Quentin Grimes dribbles into a transition three where Ad does not pick him up, knocks down to three. All of a sudden, the leads back up to fifteen. Two stretches, two brief stretches with a bunch of defensive breakdowns where you completely lose control of the game. This MAV's offense has definitely struggled with the injuries. That's to be expected, but they're still a tough team. I've said this before, but I think the Mavericks have the second best roster in the Western Conference in terms of total talent on both ends of the floor. They still have a ton of defensive personnel and they have plenty of ball handling to run a coherent offense without their stars. If you don't bring your a game against Dallas, you absolutely can lose. And the Lakers made several runs in this game. They played beautiful basketball for stretches. I think Lebron's playing really well right now. It's kind of crazy the level that Lebron's playing at right now, I feel like he's getting wherever he wants and generating quality shots whenever he wants. He's getting a lot of rim pressure. He looks better athletically than he did at any point in the season. But as a team, they just have way too many defensive breakdowns. Again, there's a difference between breakdowns and weaknesses. A defensive weaknesses is like you do your job, but the guy scores anyway because they haven't advantage. So like PJ. Washington and Spencer Dinwoody driving through Austin reeves or Dalton connect and getting buckets. Those are weaknesses Austin, usually on the road, usually when he's been playing every night for a couple of weeks, we'll have a night like that where he just doesn't hold up very well and teams attack him. Generally, in the big picture, Austin holds up pretty well, but he has nights like that sometimes where teams can go through him. Dalton obviously not a very good defensive player. Those are just weaknesses. That kind of thing I think you can account for and plan for in a defense. The best defenses in the league still give up about one hundred points per one hundred possessions. So it's not like you can just stop teams and strangle him. You're gonna give up points with your disadvantages and your mistakes, but you have to limit them as much as possible. Breakdowns are fundamentally different. That's like I didn't do my job and now this guy's wide open. That is unacceptable. Those are the kinds of things that you have to fight against. Those are the things that will cost you games. You lost this game with two shooting runs from Klay Thompson and Jaden Hardy that centered around defensive breakdowns, guys just not doing their jobs. And so as I look in the big picture, like in the three losses since the Dori and Finney Smith trade, the Lakers have a one to twenty six defensive rating that's abysmal. But then you watch them and it's like the third quarter run against Houston, there's quarters stretches for five to six minutes where they look awesome on defense. The same team that's giving up a one to twenty six defensive rating in these three losses in those same games has looked very good defensively for stretches. That is a clear sign that this is an execution issue. And there are many reasons why Anthony Davis still doesn't look quite like the same defender he was even a year ago. He's getting lost around the rim a lot. That was weird at the end of the Houston game, how everyone's just going right. Adam shang Gun's is going right at him, Jalen Green's going right at him, Fred Van vliet'z going right at him, and they're just shooting over the top of him and scoring. Like hey, dude, like I say, you're the best defensive player in the world. That's a standard, that's a standard that we hold you too, and you're not living up to that standard right now. Right the Lebron still has his lackadaisical moments, but it mostly comes down to the breakdowns for me, guys like Ruey who are just not good at tracking, guys on the perimeter who just are lost within this scheme at times. And then Max like again, like Max has all this talent and he's always playing hard, but he's prone to a lot of breakdowns on defense, in large part because he's a young player. Young players make mistakes and so like interestingly enough, I think the Lakers are trying to be good when I was frustrated with them in the early part of the season after that Miami Heat game. What specifically bothered me was the letting go of the rope for weeks on end, bad games happen. Even last night, I was not all that worked up about that game. As a Lakers fan, I do think Dallas is dangerous. I know they haven't won a ton since the guys have been hurt. I think that's a good roster. I think that's a team that'll beat you on a bad night. And the Lakers had a bad night and they lost. But in the early part of the season, it was like, you're two and five and you're on the road in a very winnable game against the Heat team that had just lost to in a row, that's spiraling in their own way, and you quit in your first shift, Like that tells me you don't even want to be good. Ironically enough, and this is where it's been weird, because I've never seen this from this group in the last couple of years. Over the last month or two, three weeks, however long it's been since Lebron came back, they actually look like they want to be good. They've it looks like they've been humiliated or they've felt their purpose. Finally, I don't know what it is, but mentally, it looks like a very different team than they did in the first fifteen games or so. They look like they want to be good. It's not about the one, it's about stringing this together. JJ Redick is preaching constantly about attention to detail and trying to work these things out. Lebron after the Houston game, said I want to be a great team. When I heard that, I'm like, Okay, he's parenting the same thing. JJ Reddick just said, clearly, these guys want it and they're trying, but they're not there yet. They got a long way to go. There's still way too many breakdowns. And then, lastly, when you're relying on guys like Ruy, like Max, young players that can struggle with attention to detail, mistakes happen with those guys, which is why I've been advocating for bringing in more veteran options, preferably at the two, so that on nights when those guys are making mistakes, you have an option you can go to that has a higher floor, that can avoid those sorts of mistakes. I'm gonna be talking to some Lakers today with Yovann. I'm actually about to hop off of this and go to see him right now. But when I'm done with Yovann, make sure you guys head over to his channel to check out that episode, and then we're gonna have yovonn On next week to talk more Lakers. 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If all of you guys are having a great week, it is good to be back. Felt could to get some skiing in the northern Arizona. Here's the plan for the rest of this week. Obviously I missed a bunch of basketball over the course of the weekend. It's going to take me about a day to get caught up. But I wanted to get something out quickly, so this morning I'm just gonna do a short show. We're going to talk Celtics Thunder off the top of big deep dive into Celtics Thunder, and then I'm gonna talk a little bit about Mavericks Lakers from last night and this oh and to Lakers road trip. That's all we're doing in this morning's episode. As soon as I'm done, though, I'm gonna start diving back into film. We're gonna have a bunch of stuff coming out throughout the rest of the week, including tomorrow. We got just a ridiculous game between the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Oklahoma City Thunder to get into that one's gonna be a lot of fun. We also have a mail bag leader this week. 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So it's always fun watching two really damn good basketball teams because it's fun to watch teams that consistently do all the things that good basketball teams do, meaning they don't just real on their talent. You know, I think it's important for us to differentiate between super talented and super talented and plays good basketball. There are a lot of really talented teams in the league. I do think Boston is the most talented roster in the league, but I also thought they were the most talented roster in the league in twenty twenty two. They just weren't playing as good a brand of basketball. There was growth that occurred between then and now. It's too simple to just say, oh, they're that talented. It's an important thing to bring up. They are the most talented team in the league, but they also play one of the best brands of basketball that we see around the league. And same goes for Okay. See, they don't just rely on their talent. They hunt every single possible advantage, every single possible margin that will help them win basketball games. Just a couple examples to list, like pushing in transition off of makes That's an important thing that all good teams do, and it works, especially when they're cross matches, which is something that's happening in this game, right Like if Hartenstein's guarding Porzingis on offense, but Porzingis is guarding case on Wallace on defense, there's a cross match there, right, Like if guys are guarding different guys the opposite ends of the floor when the ball transitions, meaning like when there's a miss or when there's a steal, there is a moment where the guy that you're supposed to be guarding is far away, and so pushing in transition you can get a lot of cross matches. You can get initial advantages when a team just isn't back and you can maybe get them in rotation. Sometimes you'll get a complete breakdown and get a layup or dunk. There were several at the beginning of this game where both the Celtics and the Thunder were getting like dunks and easy shots in transition just by pushing off of makes. That's something that good teams do. You should you should push on a make because the entire purpose of why we run offense is to get an advantage. And if you can get an advantage without having to run offense, then by all means you should look to do that right. Generating advantages with basic fundamentals in the half court, So like quick moves off the catch, Derek White catching in the corner even though he's guarded, but just quickly ripping baseline and beating his man off the dribble suddenly Drew Holliday's going to wide open three at the top of the key right, or case On Wallace did something similar to Jason Tatum caught in the wing, just quickly racked to the right, I got in the lane and made like that lefty scoop shot that he made in the lane. Those are things that good basketball teams do, Like, Okay, nothing's open right now, somebody's got to create an advantage. When I catch, I'm ripping and I'm going to see if I can beat this dude off the dribble and maybe make something good happen off ball player movement Again, for both teams, guys are constantly cutting and relocating around the three point line, crashing the offensive glass out of the corner to get additional possessions ball pressure, Like, how often in that second half, in particular, do you see the Celtics end up in like a late clock situation where they haven't run anything just because okay See's pressuring the ball and not letting them get the ball up the floor quickly. It's always fun watching two great basketball teams go at it, and I really enjoyed watching the film and this one. I thought the story of the game, though, was okay C's ability to contain the basketball in the second half compared to the first half. I'll talk about containing the basketball a lot in the NBA because it's a concept that reminds me of lying play in the NFL. It's the push and pull that determines most possessions. Whether you can run the ball has everything to do with whether or not your line can get a push. Whether or not you can throw the ball has a lot to do with your ability to protect the quarterback long enough for receivers to get open so that you can make a throw down the field, right, Like I just the reason why I always fall back on this example is like I was a Dallas Cowboys fan growing up. All my families from the Dallas Fort Worth area, and like I rooted for that team in the mid twenty tens where it was like we were just running all over everybody and the game was just easy. We could go on the road to Green Bay, on the road to Pittsburgh and we could just run the ball down everyone's throat and it didn't matter, you know what advantages the other team had because we just could control the line of scrimmage. And then recent years it's the exact opposite, right, Like guys get hurt, guys retire all of a sudden. Tyron Smith, who was like the foundation of that line, is like just getting beat by quicker players, you know, and it just all of a sudden things start to break down. They don't look as good's. It is the push and pull that determines most possessions in football, and the same thing goes for basketball. Like if you are giving up straight line drives and guys are hard helping, and you're existing in rotation, and every player is playing with an advantage, the game looks really easy. But if you're containing the ball and you're not allowing dribble penetration, and you're not allowing and you're not getting into situations where you have to hard help, and you're not existing in rotation, and guys are constantly playing with a guy in front of them instead of a guy closing out at them, the entire situation can tilt in favor of the defense, and most of it comes down to can you contain the ball. In the first half of this game, Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and chrisops porzingis in particular through drives, power drives, trying to go through people and post ups. Just kept getting the ball into the paint, going through guys, attacking switches with seals, winning that physicality battle at the point of attack. Boston had forty points in the paint in this game. Thirty four of them came in the first half, and then in the second half started to win that same battle. It shifted towards ok see. Mark Dagenal attributed it to lou Dort moving over to Jalen Brown happened in like the late first half, Jalen Brown hit like another like little right shoulder fade away in the lane. I think over Shae if I remember correctly, and next thing you know, it's Lou Dort that's guarding Jalen instead of Jason Tatum. I didn't. I think that certainly played a role, but I thought it was everybody, because there's just so much switching in this game. Like it wasn't just Lou Dort on an Island, it was really everyone in Oklahoma City, Jersey just competing and winning that battle. Kenridge Williams standing Jalen Brown up and getting the steal, Aaron Wiggins standing guys up, shake Gildas, Alexander winning some of those post up battles that he had been losing in the first half of the game. Case on Wallace holding his ground better than he had been then. Everyone pressuring the ball. Tatum and Brown were fumbling the basketball everywhere, so even when they did draw and help, they couldn't get the ball out quickly enough to the guys that could make them pay for it. They okay, So he started to dominate at the point of a the paint touches fell off a cliff, the quality shots fell off of a cliff, and Okac completely took control of the game. The stats that came out of that Okac defensive effort and in the second half were crazy. They allowed just twenty seven points, just six points allowed in the paint after allowing thirty four in the first half. Of the seventeen catch and shoot jump shots they allowed, fourteen of them were classified by guarded percentergy. Again, this is a team in Boston that generates sixteen unguarded catch and shoot jump shots a game which ranked second in the entire NBA. Believe it or not, the Chicago Bulls get over twenty. That's actually number one in the league. But a big part of that is like guys that you concede shots too. But Boston again consistently generates open shots against everybody. They only generated three unguarded catch and shoot jump shots against the Thunder in the second half. Boston could not generate good looks. And there's gonna be talk about shooting. And for the record, there is definitely a gap in shooting in this game. Like both teams attempted thirty on one catch and shoot jump shots total, but Boston made five in Oklahoma City made thirteen. Like they definitely shot better. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that's not the case. But nineteen of Oklahoma City's thirty one catch and shoot jump shots were unguarded. Only eight of the thirty one catch and shoe jump shots for Boston in the entire game were unguarded, including only three in the second half when Oklahoma City took control. So, like, if you leave that game as a Celtics fan or as a Celtics player, as a Celtics coach thinking they just outshot you, that would be a mistake. They outplayed you, got better shots, and then they outshot you on those better shots. And remember these things are all connected. You build rhythm, you start to make the contested ones. When you're getting open ones that you're also making, you build rhythm and confidence you start to knock down shots. The thunder were able to get out in transition off of their defense in the second half. They had just five transition points in the first half. They had twenty transition points in the second half. They forced Boston into ten turnovers in the second half, scored seventeen points off of them getting just five points in transition or off of turnovers in that first half. Again, twenty of your fifty points that you score in the second half, we're in transition. That's forty percent of their offense. Oklahoma City at twenty transition points, Boston at twenty seven points total in the second half, and then when they were in the half court. Shay was able all game to get consistent dribble penetration. Early in the game, he just made it clear, Like first couple possessions, he beat Jalen Brown cleanly off the dribble with the straight line drive twice in the first two minutes, did it to Jason Tatum a few times in the game. He just was able to beat everybody off the dribble. He's got this move. Shae has this move. It's like a between the legs dribble that flows into a dribble drive. But there's like a change of pace element to it, so like he'll be operating slowly off that dribble and he'll slowly dribble through the legs. But then as soon as he's ready to go, like he'll be slowly dribbling through his legs and as soon as that ball touches the right hand, he'll just explode forward and it's almost like a It almost like lulls you to sleep. But in addition to his elite first step, it just makes them really really difficult to keep in front. I thought his shot making was huge, especially at the start of the second half when he kind of like began things as Oklahoma City started to take control. And then I thought he made to play the game in the fourth quarter blocking Jason Tatum at the rim and transition and then down on the other end feeding Isah Hartenstein on the lob for that poster, Donk, what the hell? What a hell of an exclamation point for Oklahoma City to end that game. I thought he pretty clearly looked like the best player on the floor in this one. Again, Tatum will have another shot. These two teams play in mid March in Boston, and they might play again in the finals. That's certainly a possibility of maybe even one of the most likely possibilities. But round one for this matchup in the regular season went pretty resoundingly to Shay in my opinion. A couple other thunder guys I wanted to shout out. Lou Dort was just a physical, wrecking ball all game. He's fighting dudes off of spots, pressuring the ball, forcing turnovers, winning contested rebound battles. He's super valuable in this matchup because he's quick enough to beat Tatum in Brown to spots, but he's also strong enough that they can't go through him, which makes him unique in that, like those guys almost have to get off of dort in order to really create an advantage against this team. Kase On Wallace, the Sea started porzingis on him in this game. And again, the idea there is you're trying to make Kayson Wallace make above the break threes. Theoretically, that's like the idea behind it, right, and you know, first possession it worked like kase On Wallace like caught with you know, nine or eight seconds on the shot clock and just dribbled into a contested mid range pull up, you know, like a bad shot. But for the rest of the game he settled down and you know he knocked down to catch and shoot three. He was driving hard into openings like coming off of action, which is something I talked about with the Mavericks series last year, Like when you have a guy like Derek Jones, it's being guarded by Porzingis. Get him the ball so that he can go downhill and like in his screening action because Porzingis is going to struggle to navigate screens. Never did that. Kason Wallace consistently involved attacking in transition. That was a big thing in the second half. But also just like coming off of dhos and getting into the lane, making floaters, making scoop shots, attacking be a threat. When they put Porzingis on you like that, they're saying, we don't think you're a threat to score. That's literally the idea there. That's why they put Jason Tatum on centers typically so that they can switch that actual they actually started with Drew Holliday on Hartenstein in this one so they can switch, but they do it with both heart Holiday and Tatum. But like the idea is, they want the Seas want to switch ball screens with your normal ballscreen partners, and they want to take your weakest defensive offensive player and put Porzingis on him. Case on Wallace had to make him pay, and he did. Made six shots in this game. Aaron Wiggins, this dude is such a pro. He's sneaky. One of the older and more experienced guys on this Thunder roster. But he just plays in his role. He defends, he rebounds, he makes quick decisions off the catch. He's been one of the more reliable catch and shoot guys for the Thunder this year. The Thunder just really resounding statement in that second half against the Celtics. On the Celtics front, I didn't think Tatum was bad, but I didn't think he was very good either. His biggest job on this team is to get the defense in rotation, and he just wasn't a to do so. He had just one assists, which was his lowest total of the season. And again, the Seas just didn't generate open looks in this game, and that was the main reason why shots didn't go in. Right. If you're not gonna get open looks, they're probably not going to go in. This particular matchup will test Tatum's ceiling. Should these teams meet in the finals, Tatum is going to have to in this matchup consistently get to matchups. He likes beat that matchup and generate easy shots. If he doesn't, the Thunder will beat them, and he's capable. Here's a lot of size advantages on the floor. But he's got to do a better job than he did in that second half of getting compromising Oklahoma City's defense to generate quality shots. Jalen Brown is just the tail of two halves. Like first half he's going through guys and causing problems for the Thunder and the Paint. But then in the second half it's a lot of the old Jalen, a lot of like losing his handle against pressure, tough shots, election, a couple of really bad turnovers in the fourth quarter where he's just driving into the teeth of the defense and getting swiped, just like kind of old school stuff that we used to deal with with Jalen in the past. Right. Porzingis, on the one hand, his post up mismatching looked good. They went to him three times against Thunder. Smaller players in the post scored every single time. But the Celtics defense could not get stops against Oklahoma City with Porzingis on the floor. They had a one twenty two defensive rating with Porzingis on the floor in this game. So in the big picture, this is good for the league, you know, especially with where I was at a few a few months ago, Like not even like one month ago, I thought Boston was on a tier by themselves at the top of the league. Now it feels like we have three completely legit teams in our contender tier, in our top tier contender tier, and they're all good in different ways. Like Boston is the hyper versatile, older, more experienced team, right they've won a championship. Cleveland is the insanely good offense, and Oklahoma City is the insanely good defense. Right. Those are like the three calling cards, but all three of those teams have different approaches to win it. Each team has a weakness, like Boston doesn't look as sharper as focused as they were last year. But I think this okaysee in Cleveland run is gonna be a wake up call for them, and I think Boston's gonna play much better in this next portion of the season. Oklahoma City's shooting is still super unreliable. Even after shooting the lights out last night, they're still just twentieth and three point percentage on the season. Cleveland has some entry points into their defense with a couple of small guards, and they're not a good defensive rebounding team. I think they're twentieth or twenty seconds. I think they're bottom ten in defensive rebounding, so, like all teams have their weaknesses as well. This is why I would say, like, there's no point in taking regular season victory laps Oklahoma City. You're about to go on the road to Cleveland. You can absolutely lose that game, right Like Boston again is gonna play you again at home. It's gonna be a different type of game. This is This is a battle that's gonna be determined in the postseason. This is not a battle that's gonna be determined in the regular season. All three of these teams can beat each other again. Cleveland absolutely could beat Oklahoma City tonight. Like this can go a bunch of different ways. I will say though, again I used to view Boston in a tier by themselves on top of the league. I no longer feel that way. I feel like Cleveland and Oklahoma City absolutely deserve to be on the same tier with them. Moving on to Lakers. Maps interesting game in the first half, the Lakers weren't really all that locked in, but this is a MAVs offense that has struggled to score when Luca and Kyrie have been out, and so the Lakers still kind of had a lead there in that late first half, but I thought the Lakers lost this game in two particular stretches. First was the Clay rundown in the first half, and the first three that he hit wasn't bad defense, but it was conservative defense. He's running off of a screening action towards the left wing. Max Christy's trailing him, sprinting as hard as he can. He's a little detached, but he's trying, and Ad like he could show up at the level. Probably should because it's Klay Thompson, but like I think at that point he hadn't hit a three yet and he would have given up an easy pocket pass if he had stepped up, So Ad just kind of token half shows basically, like, let's see Clay can make the shot, and he makes a shot, so whatever he makes the first one, it's a relatively tough shot. He gets a conservative defensive look. But the next two threes he hit were just total defensive breakdowns, like Ruey guarding I think Spencer Dinwoodie on the play and Austin Reeves is being guarded by Clay and there's a two man game. It's obviously a switch It's just that should be a switch. Every single time Austin thinks it's a switch. Ruey just stands still and Clay slips out of it and knocks down to three. Just a complete defensive breakdown from Ruey. Ha Chamura gives up a wide open three to Klay Thompson. He hits it, and then the one that he hit in the left corner in transition was Lebron's fault. He just the rim was already accounted for. His job was to spray out to shooters. He should have been on Clay in the left corner. He wasn't there, and he knocked it down. So gives up a shooting run to Klay Thompson. They immediately go on this run. It's in twenty one to three run spanning halftime. Now, all of a sudden, the Lakers go from up by six to down by twelve. But then the Lakers play a nice stretch of basketball and they cut the lead down to five, and they promptly give up another shooting run to Jaden Hardy once again started in something that was a conservative look. It was his own look. Ball gets swung to the left wing. Jaden Hardy is the right read to try to beat the zone, and again the zone is designed to concede that sort of thing. He knocks down the shot whatever, But on the very next possession, Max Christy just loses him in the same spot. I think he's trying to check a cutter's like Max to Klebo was like cutting down the lane, and Max was like trying to hit him, but he like went way underneath him, like like way in the paint. And as a result, Jayden Hardy's just wide open for three on the left wing knocks it down again again. He had just hit one from the same spot. It's a defensive breakdown. You can't be like, you can't be detached from the guy who just made a shot in that spot. And then on the next possession, Gabe and Max switch, presumably so that that mistake doesn't happen again, and then Gabe makes the exact same mistake. Kleba cuts into the lane, Gabe tries to get up underneath him to check him, and they just swing the ball up to Jaden Hardy and he knocks down to three again. I literally couldn't believe it when I was watching the tape, Like you just switched presumably to patch up this defensive bright down, and then you made the exact same defensive breakdown right after that. On the next possession, Ad smokes a little floater in the lane. Quentin Grimes dribbles into a transition three where Ad does not pick him up, knocks down to three. All of a sudden, the leads back up to fifteen. Two stretches, two brief stretches with a bunch of defensive breakdowns where you completely lose control of the game. This MAV's offense has definitely struggled with the injuries. That's to be expected, but they're still a tough team. I've said this before, but I think the Mavericks have the second best roster in the Western Conference in terms of total talent on both ends of the floor. They still have a ton of defensive personnel and they have plenty of ball handling to run a coherent offense without their stars. If you don't bring your a game against Dallas, you absolutely can lose. And the Lakers made several runs in this game. They played beautiful basketball for stretches. I think Lebron's playing really well right now. It's kind of crazy the level that Lebron's playing at right now, I feel like he's getting wherever he wants and generating quality shots whenever he wants. He's getting a lot of rim pressure. He looks better athletically than he did at any point in the season. But as a team, they just have way too many defensive breakdowns. Again, there's a difference between breakdowns and weaknesses. A defensive weaknesses is like you do your job, but the guy scores anyway because they haven't advantage. So like PJ. Washington and Spencer Dinwoody driving through Austin reeves or Dalton connect and getting buckets. Those are weaknesses Austin, usually on the road, usually when he's been playing every night for a couple of weeks, we'll have a night like that where he just doesn't hold up very well and teams attack him. Generally, in the big picture, Austin holds up pretty well, but he has nights like that sometimes where teams can go through him. Dalton obviously not a very good defensive player. Those are just weaknesses. That kind of thing I think you can account for and plan for in a defense. The best defenses in the league still give up about one hundred points per one hundred possessions. So it's not like you can just stop teams and strangle him. You're gonna give up points with your disadvantages and your mistakes, but you have to limit them as much as possible. Breakdowns are fundamentally different. That's like I didn't do my job and now this guy's wide open. That is unacceptable. Those are the kinds of things that you have to fight against. Those are the things that will cost you games. You lost this game with two shooting runs from Klay Thompson and Jaden Hardy that centered around defensive breakdowns, guys just not doing their jobs. And so as I look in the big picture, like in the three losses since the Dori and Finney Smith trade, the Lakers have a one to twenty six defensive rating that's abysmal. But then you watch them and it's like the third quarter run against Houston, there's quarters stretches for five to six minutes where they look awesome on defense. The same team that's giving up a one to twenty six defensive rating in these three losses in those same games has looked very good defensively for stretches. That is a clear sign that this is an execution issue. And there are many reasons why Anthony Davis still doesn't look quite like the same defender he was even a year ago. He's getting lost around the rim a lot. That was weird at the end of the Houston game, how everyone's just going right. Adam shang Gun's is going right at him, Jalen Green's going right at him, Fred Van vliet'z going right at him, and they're just shooting over the top of him and scoring. Like hey, dude, like I say, you're the best defensive player in the world. That's a standard, that's a standard that we hold you too, and you're not living up to that standard right now. Right the Lebron still has his lackadaisical moments, but it mostly comes down to the breakdowns for me, guys like Ruey who are just not good at tracking, guys on the perimeter who just are lost within this scheme at times. And then Max like again, like Max has all this talent and he's always playing hard, but he's prone to a lot of breakdowns on defense, in large part because he's a young player. Young players make mistakes and so like interestingly enough, I think the Lakers are trying to be good when I was frustrated with them in the early part of the season after that Miami Heat game. What specifically bothered me was the letting go of the rope for weeks on end, bad games happen. Even last night, I was not all that worked up about that game. As a Lakers fan, I do think Dallas is dangerous. I know they haven't won a ton since the guys have been hurt. I think that's a good roster. I think that's a team that'll beat you on a bad night. And the Lakers had a bad night and they lost. But in the early part of the season, it was like, you're two and five and you're on the road in a very winnable game against the Heat team that had just lost to in a row, that's spiraling in their own way, and you quit in your first shift, Like that tells me you don't even want to be good. Ironically enough, and this is where it's been weird, because I've never seen this from this group in the last couple of years. Over the last month or two, three weeks, however long it's been since Lebron came back, they actually look like they want to be good. They've it looks like they've been humiliated or they've felt their purpose. Finally, I don't know what it is, but mentally, it looks like a very different team than they did in the first fifteen games or so. They look like they want to be good. It's not about the one, it's about stringing this together. JJ Redick is preaching constantly about attention to detail and trying to work these things out. Lebron after the Houston game, said I want to be a great team. When I heard that, I'm like, Okay, he's parenting the same thing. JJ Reddick just said, clearly, these guys want it and they're trying, but they're not there yet. They got a long way to go. There's still way too many breakdowns. And then, lastly, when you're relying on guys like Ruy, like Max, young players that can struggle with attention to detail, mistakes happen with those guys, which is why I've been advocating for bringing in more veteran options, preferably at the two, so that on nights when those guys are making mistakes, you have an option you can go to that has a higher floor, that can avoid those sorts of mistakes. I'm gonna be talking to some Lakers today with Yovann. I'm actually about to hop off of this and go to see him right now. But when I'm done with Yovann, make sure you guys head over to his channel to check out that episode, and then we're gonna have yovonn On next week to talk more Lakers. 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