Hoops Tonight - Reaction to Kyrie Irving trade by Dallas Mavericks & Brooklyn Nets

Published Feb 5, 2023, 9:22 PM

Jason Timpf reacts to the breaking news trade that Kyrie Irving has been sent from the Brooklyn Nets to the Dallas Mavericks to join Luka Doncic in exchange for Spencer Dinwiddie, Dorian Finney-Smith and draft picks. Jason dives into how this trade impacts Kevin Durant's future with the Nets, plus how missing out on Kyrie may affect what the Los Angeles Lakers do to support LeBron James the rest of this NBA season. #volume #Herd

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Enter your email in code hoops that's h o O p S for twenty dollars off. Download game Time today, last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. All right, let's talk some basketball. So you know, Dallas was second on my list in terms of teams that would be desperate enough to go after Kyrie. I was looking at Dallas, Miami, and the Lakers, Lakers being the most desperate. I had read a bunch of intel that the Lakers were primarily concerned about the long term structure of kyrie salary after the season, wanting to get him to a two year extension so that they can line it up with Lebron rather than doing that four year deal that Kyrie wants. I would imagine that behind the scenes, Dallas has made some sort of inclination to Kyrie that they intend to sign him to that type of deal, being that they were willing to give up this type of asset. It's super interesting on a bunch of different levels. So the way I want to look at this is we're gonna start by looking at it from Dallas's perspective, Then we're gonna look at it from Brooklyn's perspective. Then we're gonna look at it from the Los Angeles Lakers perspective as they now have to pivot to other options before the deadline. So for Dallas, I love this fit. Now. The reason why I didn't love it as much as I did for the Lakers is I thought it over mid overnight made the Lakers a championship contender when you look at everything else that they had on the roster. Kyrie being I would say, he's probably been like the seventeenth or eighteenth best player in the world this year. He's having a damn good season. I went over his numbers yesterday. I'm not gonna do it again. So adding him to what Lebron and a d do, the way they all complement each other, the way Kyrie specifically impacts their weaknesses. I thought it made a ton of sense and it was a team It was a move that actually put them over the edge in my opinion, so I thought it was worth the assets for Dallas. I look at it more as a long term play. Kyrie's skill set compliments Lucas perfectly because he's more of a professional shotmaker from all these different spots of the floor. Lucas more of an offensive engine type of player. We've seen that specific partnership work before with Lebron James, and one of the big reasons why it's been working with Kevin Durant this season is Kevin Durant is having an underrated offensive engine type of season as a pick and roll shot later and drawing double teams and allowing the team to play four on three off of them. Kyrie in a lot of cases has been a guy that they've gone to at the end of games as that type of shot maker. Now you're gonna see Luca's usage drop. I've been talking about this NonStop. Everybody's been jumping to conclusions with Luca as a young kid in his early twenties about the type of player he is, that he's the kind of guy that you know wouldn't play well with other stars, and all he does is dribble the clock out and take bad shots and blah blah blah. You know, the bad, the the unfair, unrealistic picture that a lot of people that don't like Luca paint of him. And what I kept saying was that we've never even seen him try. This isn't James Harden playing James Harden ball alongside Chris Paul. This is gonna be a little bit different. He's gonna be allowed to be more selective, He's gonna be allowed to work off the ball more. They're gonna allowed They're gonna be able to add wrinkles to their offense that they haven't had in the past. Most importantly, when you limit that usage, it allows Luca to be more selective about taking bad shots, and it allows you to lighten his workload, which will allow him to have the legs necessary to be effective, especially at the end of games. So the fit I like a great deal. Defensively, it's gonna be a little tricky, and that's where we're gonna I'm looking at the future because giving up Dorian Phinney Smith their best three and d Wing, the guy that in a series would guard a Lebron James, the guy that in a series would guard a Kawhi Leonard. Losing him is going to be devastating to them in the short term. I think Spencer Dinwoodie it's more of a kind of a similar swap for Kyrie's skill set in roles, So it's not that big of a deal. But Dorian Phinney Smith is a big loss. And this is a team that already is suffering with front court depth with Maxi Cleland being out with the muscle tear and and JaVale McGee just hasn't really worked out for them this season. They are thin on the front line, and so they're gonna be at a massive physical disadvantage in every single series that they play this year, and I don't think they're capable of winning the championship as a result, especially with the type of teams are gonna have to go throughout West that have massive physical front lines that are going to be a pain in the ask for Dallas to deal with. But in the long run, we've been talking about how Dallas, you know, like a lot of teams that are in their predicament where they have this young star that's too good to get high draft picks. You end up having to find weird like methods to obtain another star. We saw this with Lebron the first time around in Cleveland. He was winning too much for them to build through the draft they have with some of the other teams that we've seen in NBA history, But they went and got a guy. So now this summer they can focus on building out a roster that complements those guys in their place style. They can work on finding the physical workload carriers that will allow Luca and Kyrie's otherworldly offensive talent to carry them. So don't get too disappointed if Dallas loses this year. I would expect them to with those physical disadvantages. But if you're a Dallas Mavericks fan, you should be very excited about this because you now have a perfect complementary co star. It was only thirty years old with Luca. That brings some specific skill that that that even Luca isn't particularly great at, and I think that that's a great foundation. They just need to build out the front court around them to be a realistic championship contender. But this was step one and they got it done. So tip of the cap to the Dallas Mavericks. A bunch of teams got cold feet. The Lakers had a chance to put three top seventeen players together and they got cold feet. Dallas didn't, so they get the good player as a result. Now, looking over at Brooklyn, my guess is Kevin Durants not super pleased about this. Now, you can make a case that you know these were this was as good of a win now deal as they could have gotten, right Because like roy O'Neil's basically their primary three and D type of defender, but he's a little bit undersized. Dorian Finney Smith gives you a longer defender. So when you're going against the Kawhile Ennards and Paul George's of the world are out east, it's more of the Jayson Tatums and the uh Jalen Browns of the world that like to shoot over the top. Dorian Finney Smith is gonna be able to bother the guys more than, you know, than Royce O'Neil can't, So there's a lot of benefit there. He can shoot the basketball pretty well. He's a little streaky, like a lot of role players are, but I like that fit really well. Spencer Dinwoodie perfectly fine complimentary ball handler. But what made Brooklyn so good was the pairing of Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant in the way the two of them together could consistently break down the defense. The ceiling, the ultimate ceiling of Brooklyn was both Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. And now you have turned them more into like the two thousand eighteen Calves, where Kevin Durant is at the top of his game, might be the best player in the world, just like Lebron was in two thousand eighteen. And they're gonna be able to beat a lot of teams, but eventually they're going to run into somebody that has just has more shot creation and more talent, and they're not gonna be able to handle it. You know, if they run into a physical matchup like uh, like the Milwaukee Bucks or the Boston Celtics, they will not win the physical matchup. But if they had Kyrie and Kevin Durant, they could hope to potentially over come that with supreme offensive skill. And the Nets lost a lot of offensive skill in this trade, So I don't know if it happens before the deadline. Likely not because we haven't heard anything about it, but we'll see over the course of the next couple of days. But my guess is this leads to another Kevin Durant trade demand after a disappointing playoff exit this year. They'll be fun, they'll be interesting, but they're not beating the Bucks. They're not beating the Celtics, they're not beating the Sixers without the high end offensive talent that they had with both Kyrie and Kevin Durant moving on to the Lakers. I feel bad for Lakers fans. I thought this was a huge missed opportunity. Yes, in a vacuum, you could make a case that they dodged a bullet, but this is not in a vacuum. This is Lebron James in your twenty the Russell Westbrook problem, the pull up jump shooting problem, the backcourt offensive skill problem, all wrapped up into one with the urgency of Lebron's rapid aging. And so you have to take on abnormal risk to solve your abnormal predicament that we're in. And whatever that risk was, I thought was mitigated by the fact that you'd be piecing together a top seventeen player in the NBA with Lebron James and Anthony Davis with a skill set that compliments them extremely well and a good set role players around them that makes sense, like, for instance, like Trey Brown Jr. Hard working guy that's not super offensively skilled. When you in Gabriel, you know Ruy Hutcher, Murmer, these kinds of guys, Dennis Shrewder, Patrick Beverley, these these kind of guys in this roster, the offensive limitations become very apparent. But if Kyrie Irving's on the roster, suddenly you don't care that they don't have the offensive skill because you want guys like that that are just impacting the game with their effort and their physicality and what they do on the defensive end of the floor. Because Kyrie brings this supreme offensive skill and he's a pull up jump shooter. What do I always tell you guys about pull up jump shooting. Spacing doesn't matter because they're shooting over the top of the defense. So I thought it was a massive missed opportunity. I don't know if it was just Genie Buss trying to get out of the luxury attacks. I don't know. If it was Rob Polink being incapable of piecing together a three team deal that sends the requisite pieces to the nets. I don't know what happened, but given that they only got two seconds and a first, I feel like the Lakers botched this and that's unfortunate because it was a big missed opportunity. Now what do they have to do. They have to do something, They have to pivot. They still need that offensive skill in the backcourt. I still look at Toronto and something involving Gary Trent Jr. I I really like the idea of a professional jump shooter or someone who shoots off the dribble, someone who can run ball screens and get the guard, the defensive guard to chase over the top, which will allow that guard to get downhill and open up things with the four on three on the back end. I hope that they find somebody like that before the deadline. But it's concerning because if they weren't willing to shell out the necessary picks and compensation and things along those lines for Kyrie, what makes you think they're gonna be willing to do it for a lesser player. And so that's really discouraging. But hey, we got you know, three or four days here, and Rob Polink has got a piece something to get there, because you saw once again last night down the stretch of that game, that lack of ball handling and shooting in the backcourt continually becomes a problem. Dennis Shrewder. I like him. He's had a good season for the veteran, for a veteran minimum contract, he's been fantastic. But you know, down the stretch of that game, he made a bunch of key mistakes, turnovers, in ability to finish around the rim that position. Being upgraded to a real offensive weapon changes the dynamic in the geometry of the Lakers in a way that makes them a lot more dangerous in the playoffs. Right now, they're just like a puncher's chance team if Lebron and a d just go on another worldly run. But if they bring in a legitimate backcourt weapon that has the that offensive skill that they need, that's when they become a serious championship contender. So I'm disappointed that they couldn't get it done with Kyrie, but they're gonna have to get it done with somebody here in the next couple of days. Al Right, guys, that's all I have for today. Like I said, I promise when we get back and when we get past the trade deadline, it's gonna be all basketball down the stretch. We're gonna learn about all these teams and I'm hoping from one hell of a playoff run. As always, I appreciate you guys rocking with me, and I'll see you guys when I get back in. Down the volume.