KSR Postgame UK FB vs South Carolina 9/7/24

Published Sep 8, 2024, 1:58 AM

Matt and Billy recap the Cats' 31-6 loss to South Carolina.

Welcome everyone. It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show. I am Matt Jones. We got a lot going on tonight, so I'm going to We're going to talk about the Kentucky loss obviously to South Carolina thirty four to six. Really awful Kentucky football performance. But I also think you're on the public airways. We're on all over the state and there is a serious situation in the state that I'm going to do the best I can, at least during this hour and fifteen minutes we're on to keep you updated on, which is for those of you that don't know, in between London, Kentucky and Livingston, Kentucky, there is an active shooter situation where earlier today, I don't know, about an hour and a half ago. The reports are kind of varied as to how many people, but multiple people were shot close to from I'm going to read you the information I have. The issue occurred near Exit forty nine, which is I think that's the Livingston exit near Wilderness Road. They have closed I seventy five between Exit forty one and fifty nine and US twenty five in Kentucky. Nine oh nine are closed. Nine miles north of London. They have not they have not found the suspect. You know, there are other things that that I've heard, but I don't want to report just because you know, we don't know them for sure. But it is a serious situation in that part. A lot of you are driving home from the game, and if you are headed to southeastern Kentucky, there's a good chance you're going that way, and so I would say to you, you're not going to be able to go that way. They are advising people to pull off in Mount Vernon and then go And for those of you from that area down, if you need to go to London in that area down through Somerset and London, it's going to be a longer, but you really don't have any other way to get to that part of the state right now. So for those of you that are are heading in that direction home, which is pretty much everybody that would be from southeastern Kentucky, you need to know that and avoid the area. As for the people in the London and Livingstone Mount Vernon area advising the state home because as of now, and I'll tell you if this changes, there are no reports that they have caught the suspects. So police are on the scene. But not only that, apparently the Department of Homeland Security is on the scene. So I will update you as things come out. You know, we could sit here and talk the whole time without really knowing anything. I don't really think that's productive, so we will switch to football. But I don't in any way want to act like it is as important as what is happening down there. And you know, from what I've heard, kind of have a very serious situation. So keep them, keep everyone in mind as you're going home, keep what I just said to you about Rhodes in mind, and if we get any information during the show, we will give it to you as soon as we do. So putting that aside, the football game was awful. It was a thirty four to six loss that kind of I mean, I don't want to say this is the worst loss of the Mark Stoops era, because I feel like we've said that a couple of times in the last few years, and there comes a point if you keep saying it, it stops. It stops meaning anything. But I think the loss two years ago at home to Vandy is in the ballpark of this. But you know this might be worse because you didn't just lose, you got destroyed, and it's the second game of the season, and it's hard to feel optimistic about the rest of the season. And I think what makes this such an right now of the program is that the program has a lot of talent. You know, last year there were times in basketball where we said, look how much talent there is? Well, I mean you also have to say that about football. I mean they.

Have.

I've been told they believe they have more draft picks on this year's team than maybe they've ever had. And you saw some talent on the field that is individually pretty impressive, especially on the defensive line, linebackers, but it is clear that the offensive side of the ball is a disaster. Only forty four yards of passing. Vander Griff was three for ten for thirty yards, which is just abysmal, especially when you have three guys as good at wide receiver as Kentucky does, two of which have NFL prospects, and you can't even come close to getting them the ball. It is hard to know what percentage of the blame goes on Brock vander Griff. I think he didn't particularly play well, but Also, I think there's a line of the game he didn't particularly have much of a chance because the Kentucky offensive line, this is the worst offensive line I have seen. You know, I don't know. You you probably have to go back to either Stoops his first year or maybe maybe Joker. The offensive line was just atrocious and atrocious at every position. The blocking wasn't just bad on the offensive line, I mean, the running backs didn't block. Nobody blocked it. It's hard for me to make a strong judgment on Vandergriff because I don't even know how much time he ever had. It was a disaster. What was odd is it felt like they could run the ball up the middle. It felt like as a run blocking team they were relatively successful. But from a past protection wise, I don't I can't remember last time I've seen a Kentucky team get dominated like that. I mean, just absolutely dominated, which didn't really give you a chance to do much of anything. The play calling. Stoops, apparently on his radio comments at halftime, sort of called it out. Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of it, for sure, maybe the majority part of it. But at its core, that is just not a well coached group. Whether you're talking play calling, whether you're talking the the you know, coaching of Will Wolford who used to be here, went to Alabama and now is back. Whatever you want to call it, it's not good. And it's hard to see. You got Georgia coming in here next week. You know, you've got a team that's lost what two regular two games in four years coming here next week. So it feels like a low point. It feels like a definite low point for Kentucky football. I don't know what you do, because this is only game two, so you still got to play ten more games. Regardless, it is hard to feel optimistic about the other ten games. I mean the sort of things where we talked about the dream of what this season could be, that's out the window right Like, right now you're sitting there, going, let's try to be competitive next week, Let's beat Ohio and then let's see if we can regroup for old myth. I mean, that's and even that feels like it's way far away, right, I mean, how do you how do you get excited about where about where things are right now? There are This is probably the lowest I've seen our fan base about Stoops since he's been here, and to be honest with you, I get it, you know, I get it. I like Mark. I like Mark. I think he's done a great job here for the for the most part, and I think he's been the most successful coach in my lifetime. But he's put himself in a place where, you know what, he's gonna have to deal with this. And he has to because he made what I thought was the worst era of his time at Kentucky last year, which is after we lost to Georgia by about fifty, coming on and saying this fan base needs to pony up. Those words are going to haunt him. I had a friend at the game text me and say, there were people screaming that from the sidelines in the in the fans section. Reminds me of some of the stuff that was happening at the SEC Tournament last year with cal And when you say that, and I came and said that on the radio right after, I said, well, now you that wasn't the time and you're gonna have to live with that. And if you remember, I think the next week they lost to Missouri and now you come, you have the talent to beat South Carolina at home you have the talent to not be embarrassed in the first ever SEC game on ABC, first three point thirty game on ABC with Greg McElroy and Sean McDonough like a great, like big time announcers. You've got that town. And to be honest with you, people did pony up. There are some boosters that made Kentucky's nil very competitive, probably more competitive than a school on Kentucky's level is nationwide. They kept players here like Dion Walker, who was actually great today. They went and got a quarterback, kept Barryon Brown, kept getting went and got a Georgia former All American linebacker. They got a probably top two or three round pick in Maxwell Harriston. They went and got second you know, complimentary pieces. They kind of ponied up, and then you get this. So there's ten games left in the year. The people who say, oh, you got a fire of Mark stoops, that's ridiculous. Ten games left, like you don't do anything right now. But he made a bed in which he set a standard. He told the fans to do something. They did it and this is the result. You may remember last year after they lost to Missouri, I came on this postgame show and I said that I thought that Kentucky football had in the last two years had sort of an undeserved arrogant that after the ten and three year with Levis, they still walked around as if they were ten and three without being ten and three. Well, what's interesting is I didn't really get that feeling from the players. This year actually was kind of the clips I saw the players. I kind of liked the attitude they had, I liked the way the coaches talked. But so I don't know that I would say it's an undeserved arrogance this year. But there's like at there was like kind of a hostility that Stoops expressed at times about the fan base. That was sort of shown with that pony up statement. And I hope things can get back on track this year because there's still a long way to go and this is going to be a hard schedule. It's not clear how you even for certain get to six to win a Bowl. You know, Auburn lost at home to Cal today, so they're not great, and itither's Florida. You know, you got Van. I mean, there is a path to six, but like it's certainly not for sure, and you kind of wonder, is this the start of a decline that's hard to stop. I said on the pregame show that I thought South Carolina games have really been sort of the I don't know, they've kind of been the symbol for what Kentucky football has been under Stoops. Kentucky and South Carolina are very similar programs. They should be. They've got pretty much the same resources. South Carolina probably has some more recruits in their state, but they also have to fight with Clemson for those recruits. Kentucky's, you know, Kentucky's nile and fan base situation is probably similar or better to South Carolina's. And when Stoops. If you look at stoops era, most of his first big moments were against South Carolina. His first big win was a home win here against South Carolina. His first big road win was a road win at South Carolina. They won seven of eight games against South Carolina, so as they passed them, they sort of showed we are hitting a new tier of SEC football. Now, you wonder, is this the symbol of the opposite Three straight years of losing. Let's say you're right off the game where Will Levis got hurt. Last year they lost on the road due to turnovers and discipline. That was kind of symbolic of the team last year, and now this year they get absolutely destroyed at home by a team that nearly lost to Old Dominion, and you wonder, is this going to be a symbol of the rest of the year where this team's just bad and it's not clear where the program goes. So if South Carolina is a mirror to what Kentucky is today was a pretty awful sign. Billy's gonna open the phones eight five nine, two eighty seven. I'm going to I'm going to try to keep you up to date about the other situation as much as I can. Will We're gonna talk football. That's the easiest way to do this, and I understand there will be frustration. There should be. I say a lot that you know, Kentucky football is not Alabama or Georgia, but the days of losing thirty four to six to South Carolina should be behind them, and unfortunately today they're not. Eight five nine twenty two eighty seven. We'll take a break, be right back. It's a local toy dealer, Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show, Welcome back. It is the local toy Dealers KSR postgame show. We are right now trying to get someone to come on with us to just give the latest. I know it's the natural inclination of people online to be, as I say, sometimes the worst version of themselves, but also there are people who I think have tried just to make lighthearted jokes about the situation, and like, now's not the time I want you folks to think about. You know, there's a shooter in the area. They do not they do not have them captured. That's a very wooded area, and there are also twenty miles of people stuck on the interstate. So it is not and it's nighttime now. It is not a great situation. And so everyone should have say prayers for the folks that are out there and the cops and everybody dealing with it, because this is a serious situation right now, and hopefully we can get the latest here soon while we're on the air. All right, eight five, nine, two, eight oh twenty two eighty seven.

Who's up next, Chad?

Chad? How are you? Chad?

Hey man, I'm doing all right? Well, said home what you just commented? All my sons up at the game. He may be coming home this evening here a little worried.

Anyway to the game.

I called you.

After Stoop said something about the nil. You said it wasn't the right time, and maybe I agree with you, but it needed to be said, and I think I said it at the time. So now we've all done that. We all put our money where our mouth was. And I'm a realistic Kentucky fan. I'm forty five. I've been watching them since I was a kid. I bleed blue. I mean, it's a production every weekend that we grill out, we watch the Cats. We enjoy and I don't expect to win ten games every year, but I'll tell you what I do expect.

I expect us to be South Carolina.

I mean it's a total embarrassment.

It is. I mean, there's no way we lose to that team.

And I'm not saying Stoops has got to go, but I do think things have to be looked at.

Well, you lost three years in a row, and for me, and I don't know if you feel like this, it's not just that you lost tonight. I mean I would be I mean, be honest with you, I'd be frustrated if we came on here and it was I think at halftime it was ten to six, and I thought, we're gonna lose this game, like seventeen to thirteen, and I was gonna feel frustrated. But when it's thirty one to six against the South Carolina team that, if you look at their schedule, will probably struggle to go to a bowl like, that's frustrating. That's beyond frustrating. That's like huge disaster of a start to a season.

Absolutely, and that's exactly what's probably gonna happen, is I'm telling you after tonight, and I hate to be Debbie Downer, but I don't expect a bowl game.

I don't know.

I think that's I don't either. I mean, just look at it. They're gonna beat Ohio and Murray State, all right, so that's three. Vandy went and beat Virginia Tech, and so like the last time they played in Lexington, they beat us. So I don't think you can just chalk that one up. Auburn's coming. They lost to Cow so they're in a very similar situation to us. But you can't be certain we win at Florida it's on the road. Then look at the other games. What are you for sure win it. I mean Louisville, Do I think we have a chance to beat them, depends on how the season goes. But then the other games you're not winning unless something drastically changes. So you're exactly right.

I mean this.

The not making the Bowl is a real, real, not only possibility. I think if you were betting on it now, it might be a proper ability.

Absolutely absolutely well, so you know, I hate to give up on so early, but still go catch. But yeah, definitely a tough Saturday, Thanks.

Matt, Yeah, appreciate it. I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Nebraska leads Colorado fourteen nothing, and it would be fun to talk about if we hadn't lost the fact that Notre Dame loses at home a twenty eight point favorite to Northern Illinois. If you get a chance you want to feel good about something, go watch the Northern Illinois coach's postgame speech on postgame interview on the field. It's like, for all the nonsense of college sports and college football and people say, oh nil, go watch that. That's still what makes the sport great. Are moments like those? Who's next?

Lance, Lance?

Go ahead? Lance? Yeah?

Man?

It just feels like to me and the suits here in the last few years, when the NL has become such a priority, that he's been so focused on getting the best position players rather than getting to the bread butter of what he does, and that's focusing on the offensive line.

You know, it's an interesting point. You know they've spent if you go back and you look at Stoops is the core of his good years. What have they had. They've had a really good offensive line, They've they've had one or two guys on the defensive line that are better than what we used to get at Kentucky. And then they've had a really good running back. Well, you look this year, they got the defensive line and they got the running back. Looks like we don't we haven't seen Chip train him yet, but Demi Sumo it looks like a you know, a really good running back, but the offensive line is just not there. And you may be right, some of the NIL focus on skill players and kind of taking the next step. They may have skipped the most basic step for Kentucky, which is a Stoops team which is gonna be conservative. There comes a point, by the way, with Stoops that you can't keep talking about your offensive coordinator. When you've had like six different ones and they're all struggling, there comes a point that maybe it is not investing in that offensive line.

Yeah.

Absolutely, he just we always know he wants to run the ball and when we're at our best, that's what we do. And the last couple of years we haven't been able to do.

That at all.

And today we were able to run the ball. But the pass protection was defintely horrible.

Yeah, well, I appreciate it, and you're exactly right. They actually, I bet appreciate the call. They actually did run the ball pretty well, honestly, especially up the middle, and so it feels like the run blocking is not the issue. But this is the worst pass protection. This is the worst pass protection. All right.

We have on the phone, Billy, who is this the mayor of London, Randall Weddle.

Randall Weddle, this is the mayor of London, Kentucky Mayor. Thank you very much for taking a second. You know, it's a lot of people listening to this that are heading home or trying to head home. Give people the latest on what's going on down there.

So you know, currently we don't uh, we've not apprehended the individual or individuals we have learned that or we're thinking that this is not just some random shooting. It's it's starting to sound like it was stew vehicles that got into an altercation then they started firing. So there there is more than one UH currently we we are we are thinking this. We're obtaining information from witnesses that are at the hospital. So we've had seven that is currently UH with minor injuries to more severe, but there is no one that has passed away at this time, and the one with the severest injuries, we were just told that it's it appears that they will survive from those injuries sustained. We're asking everybody UH to be vigilant. If they don't need to be out tonight to go home, it's important that they are if they are out, that they are being vigilant because these people have not been apprehended at this time.

Okay, so seven, so seven people shot, but no one has passed away yet as of this point.

No, they were three to four people shot, and when the firing started happening, there were some accidents, vehicle accidents because of that, so some of these injuries are sustained from car wrecks. Not everybody was shot, no, that is, but the ones that were the actual wrecks themselves were minor injuries.

Okay, all right, well that's a good update. But still the shooter is at large. But the roads all around London closed down? Is that correct?

No, the roads are not all closed down. Obviously, the scene on the I seventy five will continue for some time. They are routing traffic currently up to around Mount Vernon. So but if it gets wlowing through London. Correct. We were asking everybody to be vigilant. If it don't need to be out, please.

Go home, okay, mayor thank you very much for taking the time to call in.

Okay, thank you.

All right, So there you go. There's the latest time. It obviously not you know, you don't want to see any incidents, but not random, which I think actually probably in this situation is good news. All right, what's next? Less? Less, go ahead? Less?

Oh yeah, hey, Matt, that's good to talk to you. I've never called in before. You're a fellow Bell County from Warrior.

Middleburgh, Middlesbrough. That's right, Well it's Middleburg where when you're in Rome you pronounced it as the Romans do. I was born and raised in Bell County, but I left there in nineteen sixty four. And I'll share this with you. I've been welcome and WelCom fan all my life. And I'm seventy seven years old. I remember when Cotton Ash played and very personal and and the restaurants and gosh, well this.

Is football now, last, let's not go we don't go to football.

I'm waiting for basketball now.

Well, but that's that's not what we do.

But go ahead, yeah, no, Just regarding this team, it's to me, I've you know, I remember John Ray and of course then Frank Kirsty gave us a lot of hope and had done well for the few years he was here. And but then we've had some some I guess unfortunate hires to say the worry.

But let's what about this team in this game? All right?

Well, it's going to be a long season. I just I just think we're not versatile enough. There's not a jumbo package or a third and one or a fourth and one or whatever. You know, you've got to have some innovation and and they've got the athletes, but the offensive coordinator, you know, They've gone through a few of them this past few years. But I think, to be honest with you, hate to say it. Stoops is a good guy. I've made him before and missed some of the coaches, but I'm not good feelings it's probably time to be looking at another direction.

Well, Las, thank you very much for your call. I appreciate it. You know, I think they're going to be. There are people that feel that way, you know. I look for me, I'm not nearly there yet, just but it's two games in the season. As I said last year during the cal Parry season, it doesn't really do a lot of good to talk about that right now because it's like it's not gonna happen right now. So it's more for me about can you get something out of this and can you not produce just embarrassment after embarrassment, which is something I never would have thought. I would have said it one thirty today, three thirty today, But that's how bad this game was. And you know, there's a part of me that wonders if we will look back and go you know, there were a couple moments where things turned around the I think the pony up statement and now this you know, you wonder if you like you're starting to see steps of a decline, that will be hard to uh to flip around. Who's next?

Alan?

Go ahead? Alan Allan? Hey, hey man, how you doing doing good?

Listen?

I don't I don't think it's so much about comments this, that, and the other from the past this year at this point, from what I've seen so far, is if this O line doesn't step up and be at least halfway decent, we are in bad shape. Because South Carolina, I like so or Miss made it seem like, oh, we may have a problem, but we had hopes. But South Carolina showed us like, if this O line doesn't do anything, then we're in trouble.

Uh No, I agree with that. I totally agree that. I don't know how they get better, though I appreciate the call. I mean, they got dominated almost positioned by position. You know, I'm trying to think. We had MENSI get beat play after play and then have two straight illegal formation penalties. We had Cocks get beat a couple times in a row. Marcus Eli as well, Jagger gets hurt.

Uh.

You know, it's hard to find a bright spot, to be honest with you and I do think, look, we were we were losing this game either way, but the fact that we you know, we took for granted for a long time with Benny Snell and Chris Rodriguez and even with Will and like it was third and one, Billy, it was a first down every single time, and they had a third and one and a fourth and one and they didn't get it. I think Stoops kind of panicked on that fourth and one. He basically admitted that in the postgame press conference. But the bigger issues that you can't get it right, that you can't get it, you know, they go ahead.

I was just gonna say, I don't understand how bad how this offensive line could be that bad, illegal shifts, illegal formations. It's like they weren't even being coached. And they welcome back to Eric Wolford after they backstab Stoops a couple of years ago.

Let's just watch them back.

I'm I'm really the Eric Wolford thing is interesting. I think I called him Will earlier, but Eric Wolford, you know, he did like kind of backstab Stoops on the taking the Alabama job with the timing, and then he uh he done Alabama. I don't think their fans liked him a lot, and now you get back here and just an absolutely dreadful I mean, just a dreadful performance that I just can't remember a time the offensive line's played worse. What's next?

Joey's next, Joey, go ahead, Joey?

Hey?

Good even, counselor how are you doing good?

Hey?

I was up on brother in law's house Washington this game, and at the end of the game, I was thinking this stuff.

Where do we go from here, counselor where where do we go from Yeah?

I don't know. I mean I think the first thing you have to do is try to figure out how to be moderately competitive next week, because you know, look, just as a practical matter, let's you know, we played Georgeorgia could beat his fifty to nothing, like, oh like they could. So if you go and get beat fifty to nothing, and how many people you think are gonna be at the Ohio game the next week, right, I mean it's probably not. It's probably not gonna be a lot. So, like you need to at least make a statement that the wheels are not just off. And you know, is there a worst team you could play in the country in that moment than Georgia, you know, because it's not just that they have the talent, they're disciplined and well coached. You're not gonna catch them in a weird So I don't know if I was trying to be optimistic. If I was trying to be optimistic, i'd say this next week kind of doesn't matter because you're gonna lose either way. You beat Ohio and then you go down there and say, our chance to get the season back is against Old Miss. Now do I think that's likely? No? But do I think that's probably the way you got to look at it? Yes?

Do you think quarterback sellers is like, hey, how do you like these goggles?

Now? Kentucky, Well, I don't think he played particularly well. I mean, like, you know, he had two really good receptions, but they were both because of busted coverages by our secondary right, so I you know, and he had a third busted coverage where he missed and threw an interception to Tyd Bryant. I mean that was a busted coverage too. He should have completed that pass. So you know, I don't think he played particularly well. They won that game because their defensive line destroyed us. It is I appreciate.

So do we have a large crowd next week?

You know, yes, but it might be a lot of Georgia fans. I appreciate the call. I mean I will have a crowd. I mean it's Georgia. It's the number one team. I don't know if they're number one? Are they number one in the country? All right, the number one team in the country. They're really good. They'll bring a lot of people. I think our fans will still come. I don't know about the next week. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. It's a night game. Yeah, as somebody who owns a bar. I'm sitting there thinking, like, you know, do we just need to move on to basketball. I don't think we're there yet. But I'll tell you what. If we're sitting here next week and we're on the radio at twelve thirty at night, I may be sitting there going and we've lost fifty five to nothing or something, then I don't know what happens. What's next?

Garrett?

Go ahead, Garrett, Hey man, how are you doing, sir? I'm good, good, good. Well, first off, let's.

Just talk about like those random just balls that just bounced right towards South Carolina.

I mean, we had true, but the true, but to be fair, they bounced towards us too. Now, wait, man, hang on, I'll let you finish, and I'll let you finish, but before you say, well, random balls bounce towards them, random balls bounced towards us. We fumbled the ball three times before South Carolina did and recovered all three. So yes, they had three balls fumbled that they recovered, but we had three even before that. You are correct, You are correct.

What I would say is that I would think that the what would have suited us better in that game was just like we literally looked like we were sluggish and slow getting to the line and getting plays out there. If we could have just sped that ball up a little bit faster, it might have helped our offensive line to not just have to sit back there and just wait on getting just pummeled left and right.

Would you agree with that statement?

Uh?

You know? Maybe? I mean, I I here's the thing. Do I think Gavin whims At, for instance, and I appreciate the cause a better quarterback than brought Vander Griff Not necessarily, but it might be the case if we can't protect If we can't protect him, that you might have to look at that because he's more mobile. I mean, part of the problem was vander Griff, even when he wasn't being severely pressured, I think he felt like he was and he would start running backwards. It was I mean, I think he got the situation, and you know, in some ways you can't blame him. You get hit over and over and over, and you get people in your face that like he almost immediately was heading, was back pedaling, and just he didn't you know, he didn't have a chance. I'm not saying he played well, but I don't know that I can definitively judge the guy when you know they were in the backfield every play. Who's next, Matt, Matt? Go ahead, Matt, Matt.

Okay, no, Matt, We'll go to big Cat.

Big Cat eight five, nine, twenty two eighty seven. Go ahead, Hey, Matt.

I play a lot of inlay football, and how Bush called the game today. The Jets sweeps and stuff aren't gonna work like they were.

Say did you start that sentence with that? You play a lot of uh of in of football on the video games, and so you think that's that's that's the way you're prefacing it. Yes, me, me and my buddies play a lot in football, and okay, how you.

Call the game, you cannot run the jet sweeps after a while, they they do not ball for it. And bush Hannon was not.

Calling the game right.

He was running the jet sweeps in on that second I think it was second or third down and it was second and one. I think it was second and one. They did not fall for it ended up being third and eight and it costs to That was.

A big play. I agree with you. That was a big play. And yeah, that was a big play. I appreciate the calling and they I don't understand. I didn't understand that second one you jet sweep. Now it's third and eight and you're out of the drive. I agree with you, that was a big mistake. I do like Billy though that he's qualified because he plays a lot of NCAA twenty five.

Well so am I. Then maybe I could coach better than step.

I think it is important to remember that that's a video game. This is this is real life. I'm not saying your point was wrong. I just think next time you don't start it with I play a lot of two K. Maybe you say like that'd be like, you know, I watched now Scar Race, I drive around a lot on Man of War.

I can turn that.

I feel like I know what's happening at Darlington if I'm not two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. We're gonna take a break and be right back. It's a Local Toy Dealers KSR post game show. Welcome back. It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show. London police say thirty two year old Joseph Couch is a person of interest in the shooting in Laurel County. That's according to l e X eighteen news, and he is believed to be armed and dangerous according to eli X. So like I said, just give you the latest as it as it comes out. You heard from the London mayor earlier. He's also, since being on this show, made up a public statement as well that was basically similar to what he said on here eight five nine twenty two eighty seven. Cats pretty terrible, terrible game on the text machine, people are writing. One person says Matt. I'm frustrated we stayed through all the delay of hours last week we got there early, like they said this week he said, don't even get me started on going into the game, which was a complete disaster, longest lines I've ever seen, including last week, All that, and then you get that performance that is not what you want. The other person writes, Matt, I'm pleasantly surprised you knew what Darlington was. How did you know that these people act like I don't. I didn't watch I watched NASCAR before before that person was even bored.

Yeah, come on, that's that's a beauty.

Yeah, what do you know? You know everybody knows Arnhart and Gordon. Do you know Sterly Marlin? Do you know Kenny Schrader? I bet you don't know Kenny Schrader. How am not handsome? Harry Gant? I was watching when they were driving? Don't you talk to me about what do you know about NASCAR? I watched Darlington when it was originally on the schedule, along with North Wilkesboro. Yeah, it's back on the schedule now too, but they took it off for a long time.

Don't talk to me, Terry Lebonni, you got anymore?

You know? Let's see, I'm trying to think about the cars you had that you had the Bowdines. You had Todd Bodine, Jeff Bodine, Brett Bodine. They were brothers. They didn't like each other, billy like in real life. I don't know. They just have beef. So they'd wreck each other on the track and then they'd they'd go to the stands and the mom would be like they got along at Thanksgiving and then and then they'd go wreck each other on the track. You had the Bowdines to Lebanni's Bobby and Terry. All right, who's up next? Luke? Luke? Go ahead, Luke. By the way, if you have old I'm talking eighties and nineties NASCAR drivers seven seven two seven seven four five two five four, we'll add a little levity to the situation. Go ahead.

Uh yeah, don't really know what to say after that.

You could talk about the football game. It's okay, No, that's what I mean.

The football game a complete and utter embarrassment.

I mean just just awful.

I mean just everything is awful. I mean, da gumm.

We completed eight passes and two of them went to the other team, and one of the only touchdown we scored was for the other team.

On offense I mean just embarrassing.

I mean what, I mean, what the hell?

Where the hell do you go from here?

I mean, this is you know, you're staring at a four win season.

If you win four games, Matt, I mean, I don't want.

To talk about a new coach because I just don't think that's really productive after week two. But frankly, if you win four games, I mean, that's.

That's gonna be hard to car Well, I.

Think what's worth Here's the thing. Okay, so I had this conversation on ESPN, not about Kentucky but about other programs. Here's the thing about the anile are in years past, if you had a really bad season, your job to convince your team and the fan base you could turn it around, and those were entities that you well, actually you didn't even really have to convince the fan base. You really only had to convince your team because ultimately it would be like what can you do on the field? But now you have to be able if you want to turn it around to get money for nil, right, like you're so you can. Programs can get in a death spiral where you lose, which makes people want to give less money, which then makes it harder to win, right, and that combination can just spiral out of control. I think you're gonna see that happen to programs because you know, take in college basketball. I don't know if you saw eight of the ten programs in college basketball that had the highest funded NILS at least what they were reporting were programs that got new coaches. Why, because there's excitement around it. So if you go out and win four games, you're gonna have to go upgrade your roster. And to your point, how do you upgrade your roster when people are gonna be like, why am I giving you money? We just went four and eight.

I agree with you completely.

As somebody who is a season ticket holder, I just put all of my tickets up for sale.

I am not going to another game. I will take a cart and.

A cigarettes and a thirty pack of beer.

At this point four you're gonna regret that you would. You're gonna regret not going. I mean, I mean it, like, let's remember how old are you, by the way, so you you you remember there were many years everybody went to games assuming they'd lose all of them. But I understand maybe I was there when I was there. Yeah, well, that's true, but it used to be that, used to be every year games like that. But yes, but you don't think you'll go again. You don't think you're gonna go again.

Not this year, not this year.

I'm not putting them up this year.

Yeah, I'm not gonna this year.

I've just you know, I've thrown in the towel.

It is what it is.

I can always watch from my couch. And plus, with the money that I sell him for, I can tell, you know, put that towards the wedding for me and my fiance.

Yeah.

I don't know that you're gonna get that much. I don't know what you're gonna get that much for it, but I appreciate the call. All Right, So we got would you like to hear some drivers?

I'm getting bombarded with them, so yeah, let's hear some more.

All right. Well, first of all, I said random ones. You can't say Rusty Wallace, like that's too good. I want to hear and Ricky Rudd. Okay, Ricky Rudd is a good one. The Tide Ride, all right, this one, now, this is a really random one. Dave Marcus. Dave Marcus was like when I was watching Billy. He was like sixty and he would still raise and he would come in last like every time, and I liked it. We used to say Dave Marcus was driving up in the right lane with his left turn signal on, just telling people to go with his arm out the window, Billy saying, going around, going around. I think he was. Now, if I'm right about this, this is gonna be very impressive. I think he was number seventy one. Will you look up and see if Dave Marcus seventy one? How about that memory? Wow, that guy had the audacity to say I didn't know what who, I didn't know what Darlington was, and I knew Dave Marcus was seventy one. There was also Billy Swerving Ernie Irvin because he wrecked so much.

That's a great NASCAR name.

Jimmy Spencer. He was really fat and they used to talk about how they thought his car was slower. No, I'm kidding, I'm not kidding. Look up Jimmy Spencer. He'd cuss a lot to who's next? Dale? Dale? How are you Dale?

I mean, I've been better, Matt.

But it's good to talk to you, brother. Good talking to you as well.

First, of all, nobody has addressed the fact that Bull Kenny went up and beat a team in Ohio, Yes ranked team, and that's a very positive thing for Kentucky football.

Like across the state, there's no hang on on that point. On that point, there's no official record because they haven't ranked high school teams nationally for a long time, but it is believed to be let me finish, it is believed to be the highest ranked win for a team from Kentucky ever nationwide. Boyle County beat the number twe Boyle County beat the number twelve team in the country tonight by three touchdowns in Ohaio.

So go ahead, shut them, shut them out in the second half, shut them out in the second half. And if you go back and watch that stream, those Ohio announcers were so complimentary of the Bull County team. I was like, come on, guys, you can be homers, you know, but you know to the fact tonight's game, man, it wasn't good, right And.

I still have I've been.

A big supporter of Stukes.

I don't want to. I'm not ready to throw him under the bus just.

Yet, but man, Shane Biember kind of owns.

Him, right, He does the last three years. He's three and one in his career. So you know, don't let me hey, don't let me go just yet.

I want you guys to come down and watch the Washington County Commanders play Bethroom in a couple of weeks.

They got a brand new stadium.

Down well, I'd love I know that Washington County. Uh my friend Max stuff, he's playing Washington County this year. I think it's a road games for so maybe that'll be the time. But they're playing Washington County, so uh no.

Man, come down here and check out this new stadium down here they got.

I mean, all right, I appreciate the call, but I mean Lexton Christian is playing Washington County. I'm not just saying I'm gonna go see Max's team. I'm saying he's playing your team, and I could see it. Would you like some more names? People are bringing him leave by the way, stop with Dick Trickle. That's that's that's everybody knows that I'm talking to Scure Ones Alan COOLEWICKI you know that guy he drove the Hooters car.

Oh that's a flat car.

Hutch Strickland. Now that's a random name. That's a dude. I remember Hutch Strickland, Derreck Cope, Billy he won the Daytona five hundred and it was maybe the biggest upset of all time all won the Daytona five hundred. Johnny Benson, who wants Billy nearly won the Daytona five five hundred with an unsponsored car. He had just he just had a white car out there because he couldn't get a sponsor, and it almost won.

That's like Ricky Bobby out there.

He he literally was riding around with a car that it looked like he got outside of the speedway before it started, and then he almost won the Daytona five hundred. He had glasses. That's why I liked him. Morgan Shepherd who Billy raced until he was seventy two years old.

That's too old. We get out of their old timer that's hanging up to be fair.

Seventy two is way too old to be racing in NASCAR. Who's next?

You know your drivers?

Well, these are people are suggesting these Max go ahead, Max, and that.

Just because let's said, Dick Trickle doesn't make me any less than NASCAR fans. You know, tough day to day what Max said on the pregame was, you know, we shouldn't be calling for beating Georgia and winning Natties and all that crap. We should be calling for winning the games that we should win. And and that's more of a statement. So I'll ask you with a question. Is there any hope of any kind of heads rowing? Right we're talking about this guy from I don't think that roll to Alabama and all of that. Is there any hopes I'd be surprised any skin.

I'd be very surprised. I mean, I'm not saying, Look, if they go lose by fifty to Georgia, then lose by fifty to Old Miss and then it's a bye week. Could I see him doing something then maybe? But right now, no, I would think that will be very very unlikely, almost certainly.

No.

Yeah, well, uh still does the statue?

So bench Marrow for Governor fitz Merrell's the one person, mits Merrill's the one person that will not probably suffer suffer any consequences. I appreciate the call. Uh wait a minute, all right, so I'm gonna do like one in between every caller. All right, Billy Ward Burton, he had a real thick Southwest Virginia accent. He pronounced his name war but and like I love to hear him talk. You should go look at a Ward Burton interview. Most country dude that's ever been in a professional sport without question, outside of maybe wrestling. Who's next?

Uh?

Lashawn, Lashawn?

How are you Lashon?

What? Wait? Huh?

Hello? Yeah? Anytime you're ready?

Oh?

Hi on?

All right?

I love Stoops, I love our team, but at any time we need a change. We need a change really bad.

Like we're next week, we're going to Georgia and they're about a hawk until all over house dog.

I appreciate it, Like that would have been a really good joke. Never uh, Joe Nimachek, that's another good one. What's next?

Cody, Cody Lake Speed go Ahead?

Cody.

That was his name.

His name was that They had a guy. His name was Lake Speed go Ahead Cody.

Hey man, can you hear me?

Yes?

Uh yeah?

November twenty four, twenty three, Yeah, Elliott Tyler from the backseat. But November twenty fifth, twenty twenty three was an awesome day, and it could have been way better had Mark Stoops actually got the Texas A and M job, because there's no doubt in my mind right now that John Zamral was our coat.

There's no interesting you know that that I remember that night very well. It'd be interesting to see how things would have played out. Some ro all ended up taking the two lane job. Stoops. I think was close to it being the coach at A and M. And you know you're not the only person that that has said.

It was the perfect, perfect parting point.

Yeah, well, he does not seem happy here. He does not seem happy. I will say, I agree, he did not.

Yeah, he does not seem happy anymore.

He did he? I kind of agree with you. He he has not seemed as happy this year, and he certainly didn't seem happy today. That's an interesting point. I appreciate the call. I like, well, go ahead, go ahead. Sure.

So do you think there's another job that Vince might be up for that might get him another raise?

Listen, he's the one person I wouldn't want to lose. I'm gonna be honest with you. If you lose him, you won't have a roster.

I mean, uh, well the roster we have now lost by Yeah, but what do.

You want to have about you want to have that you want to lose by more. I mean, like, look of all the people, all right, I appreciate the call of all the people. Of all the people, and I know everybody's can go with Matt, your friends with Vince, which is true, But of all the people, he'd be the one I blame least. You know, I'd start at the offensive line. I'd probably start there because he's coached here a couple of times and the offensive line has been bad both of the times. That's probably where I'm start. Mike Skinner. You like that name?

I do.

They're just some great NASCAR names.

Tonight, Mike Skinner is uh Rick Mast? Go ahead? Who's next? Uh Kyle? Kyle? Go ahead? Kyle?

Hey, what's up?

Matt?

I have a couple of quick observations from the game to night. I think that the most in the midst of all the bad offensive drives that we saw, I think the most daming play was when South Carolina rushed a three man rush, yes, five of our offensive linemen and yeah, all three of them got to the quarterback.

That was That was the play where I said, we have no chance of winning this game. And I even went furtherest to say That's why I said, I can't really evaluate Vandergriff because on that play, You're right, they just rushed three guys. We were in the end zone. All three of them got through in like a second. You know, it didn't even like that, and you I thought to myself, if we can't block three, And then of course there's the play that's like went viral on the internet of us having three guys and we couldn't block their freshmen. That was when you just knew, Like when they went up seventeen to six, you just knew, we can't We're not we can't score enough no matter what. And that felt like the joker, you know, Bill Curry era teams.

Yeah, And I don't know, I don't know if you agree with this or not, but I feel like as I'm watching, you know, watching the Oklahoma Houston game right now, I feel like our football team has gotten to be where we are an SEC caliber defense. But other than obviously Will Levis and Terry, I mean, there's been glimpses where we have had like an exceptional offense, but I just don't know it's consistently I can say that we've had an SEC caliber competitive offense.

I think it's fair. I think that's fair. I think I'd even go further to say, except for Will's first year, I'm not sure we've ever even had a really balanced offense, you know what I mean? For Ben, Yeah, yeah, Benny Chriss, even Jojo Camp. I mean, I appreciate the call. The Will's first year is the only year that Liam's first go through is really the only time I feel like we had a really balanced top to bottom offense. Uh, you know the one of Terry's teams, the team that went ten and three, Terry's that was pretty bad. You had Bowden and you had Benny, and you had but I mean, did they have a lot outside of Bowden playing uh receiver? I mean I don't know. So yeah, I mean I think Will's that that Will year, they were pretty balanced, But I don't know that we've actually had one at all to I must tell you too quick. Then we're going to take the final break, Billy, you ready. Elliott's Elliott Sadler had a brother, do you know what his name is? Was no Hermie Hermie Sadler. And then maybe my favorite one that came through because I dated a woman. I was dating a woman that during that time that I was really watching a lot of NASCAR, she was like forced to have to watch the races with me, and she hated it. And she decided her favorite driver just because of his name was Wally Dollanback.

I was Wally. Was he a good racer?

No, he's terrible. He would be like thirty sixth every race, Wally dollond Back.

All right, what was your Neil Bonnet?

Neil, but it's a little before my time. He's old. But yeah, I do I do know the name.

Yes, died in a practice.

Yeah, there was a there was a period of time where a lot of guys died, like Kowiki died, Davy Allison died, I don't want to say, maybe Kenny Irwin, Adam Petty. They had a lot over a period of I don't know, ten or fifteen years, and then when Earnheart died, it kind of the sport became a little safer after that. They changed a lot. All right, ah uh, twenty eighty seven, we will take a break, take your calls. Cats with a tough loss, well not tough, terrible loss. This is the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame Show. Welcome Back, it is the final segment of Local Toy Dealers ks are postgame show. I want to thank all of you all for these NASCAR drivers. They have entertained me. I mean I may be the only person that is entertained. But last thing, well not last thing, I'll probably read a couple others, But Billy, did you know that no town in America has produced more NASCAR drivers per capita than Owensboro, Kentucky.

Than Owensboro?

I did not know that. Daryl Waltrip, Mikey Waltrip, Jeremy Mayfield, David Green, Mark Green, and I think there's one more. I think there's six. There might even be one more Green. They were all brothers. Uh, I feel like I'm missing one. But that's a lot for Owensboro, Kentucky, don't you think.

Yeah, something in the water up there is there like a little track they used or something.

This was a good one. Somebody wrote me. Juan Pablo Montoya.

I've heard of that name before.

Well, he was a pretty good Indy car driver and he tried to come over. And what I remember about him is during the Daytona five one hundred, he wrecked into the car that they used to clean the track. No, I'm serious, like he didn't see that. I don't know if he just wasn't looking.

Around the turn a little too.

But he just came and hit it because it was up there cleaning something up. He came and hit it and it caught on fire.

Jeez.

And it took like three hours because they caught the I don't know what they call it, the truck that out there that caught it on fire.

Who's next, Dennis, Dennis, Go ahead, Dennis.

Hey, short time listener, first on caller. I'm from Colorado, long long way from home. I know it's my third Kentucky game. I just want to know where barry On Brown is ats nothing really, I mean, he wasn't really.

Muffed the punts Macklin did he? I think it did. It was Macklin. I don't know. Barrion usually runs kickoff some but he doesn't do punts well. And and Macklin is the one that muffed those two punts. I don't know. I think he may have gotten a little hurt on one of those end rounds or no. Do you know the play where it looked like vander Griff was going to hand it to barry On and then he kept it and Barryon just got rocked by the He.

Might have got a big jet touch passes, Yeah, he.

Might have gotten banged up on that. I don't know for sure, but you're exactly right. It was like he wasn't out there.

Yeah, And I mean like even when he was going. I mean, not to throw the college football thing around, but I do play college football every now and again, and I mean, he is so fast in that game. I just run go routes for him all day and there.

Were there was nothing.

Yeah, and there was nothing there and I was I mean, I said out loud, like why aren't we doing it? And the nice gentleman in front of me, I love the Southern hospitality in UK games. I don't know if you guys get that, but it is absolutely fantastic out there Kroger Field. Everyone's so welcoming.

I love it.

But I was like, why aren't we.

Throwing it here?

We're on the we're keeping it on the ground. We're only doing jet touch passes or we're only doing short end routes. And someone in front of me said that the two d linemen were like gonna be first round draft picks in a few years like they're five star freshuring.

No, they're great, but you still can't at him get through you every single play. I mean, I you know, I know, I appreciate called they are great. Like South Carolin's got a great defensive line, but you know, we got Dean Walker is gonna be a top ten pick and he disrupted the game. But South Carolina still found a way to play offense right like you can't. You can't just shut down.

Uh.

The other Green Billy was Jeff Greene, Jeff, Mike, and David, three brothers, just like the bo Dines. I got one you're gonna like better than all of them I've said so far. Okay, my cousin not real life, but Buckshot Jones Buckshot. When you name a kid buck Shot, he has to be a NASCAR driver that was legal, man Like, he either's got to be like a professional hunter or he's got to be a NASCAR driver. Who's next?

Jake is next?

Jake? Go ahead? Ricky Craven? Good one, go Aheady?

How's it going?

Do good?

So I know the undeservedly. So I know that a lot of well pretty much all of the complaints from the previous colors have been about the offense, so I kind of just want to change it up a little bit, even though the offense was terrible. And this isn't just based on tonight, but this is something I've kind of noticed over the last few seasons. I Mean, I love our defense, and I love Brad White, but I kind of am starting to think that maybe he is getting overrated and not taking enough heat. I know that they didn't play terrible today, but I've been I've had season tickets with my dad and my brother for probably twenty five or thirty years, and it's become a kind of a running joke with my parents and my brother that sometimes the opponent purposely will lose yards on first and second down to get third and long because we cannot stop third, and like more than ten. They were I think three plays tonight where they were in like third and well, you're hired in eighteen and well, we've got three times they.

That was towards the end of the game. Yeah, that was towards the end of the game, But a couple of those were, you know, we had guys that would get in the backfield and just couldn't get the quarterback wrapped up right and like they were right there. And you know, the one caller mentioned about the fumbles that we didn't recover, but twice we blind side stripsack and aren't able to get those recoveries. So yeah, I don't agree with you about the defense because even though they gave up thirty one, ten of them are not on them. Okay, there was a pick six, so they had nothing to do with that. And then when we went forward on fourth down, they were already in field goal range, right, So I can't put those ten on them. So really you're looking at twenty one, one of which is at the end of the game. So I just I can't put this on the defense. I mean, if they score twenty one, we still got to be able to compete and win that game, and we weren't going to be able to do that.

Yeah, I agree with you on that, and I think my point is just like the third and long is just really frustrating to me, And you kind of brought up my next point about the defense. We do seem to get a lot of pressure in the backfield, but because we can't finish a lot of times, it gives the quarterback a lot more time. And I mean, you can't defend for eight seconds, you know, or a secondary they can't defend for that long. So we just need another Josh Allen.

I guess, well we do, but they don't grow up. I appreciate call the Josh Allens. Are not are not everywhere. Steve Park he was Steve Park is number one. He was the car one I remember correctly. He was part of the Dale Earnhardt group along with Martin Truix and some other people. Who's next, Steve, Steve, go ahead, Steve.

Hey.

Matt mentioned Fireball Roberts.

Yet that's again though, that's old, that's before my time. That's kind of in the Kaliyard era. Yeah, I'm trying to stick to like eighties nineties, that's when I kind of know. Before that it starts to get a little Travis Cavalier.

That name is just a name.

I don't know.

It just kind of makes me grin.

Fireball Roberts, you.

Know, Yeah, that's correct. Anything else, all right, appreciate it, Thank you. We'll do five more and call tonight. Kyle Tucker just put this out so you know we have we got Wolford, Eric Wolford back, you remember he was there. Uh, what was it three years ago when our offensive line struggled. Then he went to Alabama. This is what Kyle Tucker just tweeted. Alabama had elite offensive lines for years. Wolford went there last year and they ranked last in the SEC for sacks allowed. Kentucky didn't hire them away from Alabama. It's not a good sign. I didn't realize Alabama was last in the SEC and sacks aloud. Alabama, where you're probably every player on there is playing in the NFL. It's not a very good sign. All right, Five more, Who's next?

Marty?

Marty? How are you? Marty?

Doing well?

Man? How are you good? Hey?

I just wanted to start this off, just sitting here with my fiance and everything. Just wanted to say we love you, love the show, love listening to you talk about sports, life and everything.

Man, just really love the show.

Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.

No, I just had a couple of points. I have a couple of people have touched on and everything.

Uh.

I think the hardest stat for me to look at really is seeing barryon with just you know, one touch for negative seven yards. You know, I understand Brocks under pressure all game and everything. Else, but just got to find a way to get the ball under you know, in.

My agree with that you got he's too big a weapon, you got. He's got to find a way to get the ball. That's it. Yeah.

And then the second thing, I guy's a question for you and everything that I I'll hang up and listen. But do you think we're we're tiptoeing that line of with Stoops where we was with Caliperry, where it's like, you know, getting to the point of where are we getting too close to the end and you need.

To step away?

Yeah, I'm not let me ask me. Ask me at the end of the year or closer to the end of the year. I can't say that now. Wait minut Is that the girl from Parks and rec that's on TV right now talking about the football game? That's not No, that's not on NBC. Is that the woman from That's not the woman from Parks and Reck? Is it? I don't it looks like her. I don't think that can't be her, though I don't know who that is. But anyway back to what I'm saying, Actually, I don't remember what I was saying. Oh a Stoops. If you I'm not ready to say that yet, but let's see how these next couple of weeks ago. I mean again, if you if your stoops, like the schedule can't set up any worse. You got Georgia coming in next week. Then you got a game where even if you win, it's not gonna matter to people because you beat Ohio like nobody's gonna care. And then you go to Ole Miss and then you have a bye and then bye, you got Andy. So when is the next game where you're actually gonna make a DECI I mean it's gonna be at Florida? Is that the next time we're gonna like be able to judge where we are. It's just it's a tough tough spot to be in, uh, you know, for everybody involved. Boris said he would only race the road courses, Billy. He wouldn't do the He didn't like to go in a circle.

He liked to go right, and I understand probably got a little too dizzy doing that.

That's right. Who's next?

That is not Aubrey Plaza. That is Nicole Auerbach.

Oh.

I like Nicole Auerback. I never knew what she looked like. Yeah, she writes for like USA Today. Or did if that. Yeah, she's very nice on Twitter. I don't know that I know her, though, so I didn't know that's what she looked like.

Go ahead, Michael, Michael, go ahead, Michael.

Hey man, you don't have it. Uh, I'm just riding up here from a very tough game with my dad and my brother. You know, we made it even worse, of course, is than you know, we were at the game and it was my dad's birthday on top of it.

Happy birthday to your dad. Thanks.

But uh, you know what I haven't heard anyone talk about was the poor halftime timing, game management right there before the half. Yeah, two time outs.

Yeah, he.

Felt the need to keep throwing the ball like he It was a minute in like fifty seconds, he could have ran at least a couple more plays.

I don't know what we were doing on that, Like we didn't convert the third down, so we ended up kicking the field goal. But I don't understand. We wasted a minute of the clock, and I if we had converted the first down then I'm not sure. I worry we would have run out of time. I don't know what they were doing right there, but I will say a consistent theme going from year one of Stoops. His weakness has always been time management, always, like from moment one has been time management. And I thought about that at the end of the first half.

Yeah, to be to us, that's what we discussed. We think that was probably the death nail of trying to make a comeback right there, selling for a Field go when you had all that time was just was just too much at that point. I think it really shaped the momentum.

Yeah, I think that's a fair call. Happy birthday to your dad eight five nine two twenty two eighty seven three more Jerry Nado, that's a good one. We haven't mentioned Reed Sorenson. That one's more recent, but also random. Who's next? Bickell?

John is next?

Not Dick Trickle, Rich Bickell, Go ahead, John?

Oh hey, Matt, how about Jeremy I never did mess Mayfield.

I mentioned him and he's from Owensboro, so be nice.

Well, that might have been. That might have been when I was Unhold, I'm sorry, it's okay, okay, you mentioned just now the clotton man even Yeah, but if you can't throw, you have to run a little bit, right, Yeah, But I.

Didn't understand why he didn't use the time outs. I mean, that's what I'm saying. It ended up parking out because we didn't get the first down. But like, I just didn't really understand what his thinking was in it.

But go ahead, what I was talking about in the second quarter, when you dropped back to pass and you've got five people in your face, you just run the ball. Run the ball. They were more effective doing that, were they?

Oh? For sure?

For sure?

I don't think that was their game plan though. I don't think they came in going to run the ball because I think they thought they were going to be able to throw on them and then they just couldn't.

No, all of that is great. The thing is, though, the offensive line, I guess I think about from the fact of everybody talks about, oh, get rid of stops. He's not happy and blah blah blah. No I don't go there.

Yeah, well I'm not there.

I think I'm sorry.

I have finished that real quick, finish rap real quick.

But he's done an incredible thing for this university.

Yeah that's true, But you don't you don't keep Let me be first of all, I don't think you're anywhere near yet saying Stoops needs to go. But that is not a reason though, to continue with the coach because he's done great. Like at some point you have to talk about the future. It's like when you it's like I said this about Cal all year last year. You can't sit there and go. You can't let your past decisions on hands decide what you're gonna do with this hand. So Stoops, they will, they will. They should one day, like name a road or something around the stadium for Marx Stoops like he deserves it. He's he is alam with Bear Bryant, probably the best coach we've had. With that said, that has nothing to do with right now, right like this is about right now.

I don't disagree with that, but I think there's a knee jerk thing that happens that with Cal Cal warrat is welcome.

Is that fair?

Yeah? And I don't think Mark's there yet. I don't. But I think I'm worried about how this year is gonna go. Because if you go four and eight or you go three and nine and then you have to go get nil donations to go hit the portal and go get players, I think it's gonna be That's a hard sale to make if you're coming in and having gone three and nine or four.

And eight, Okay, who you're gonna get?

Who's That's not about who you're gonna get. I'm not saying we should let him go. I'm talking about the realities, and I appreciate the call. The realities of In the nil era, you used to be able to run a program by keeping your A D happy, a handful of boosters happy, and then going forward. Now the reality is you have to get buy in from the fans because you have to raise money, and so how the fans feel probably matters more now than it ever has. And it's gonna be hard if this team goes like it did tonight to get that buy in going forward? What do we have? Two or three more? Two more? Who's next? Charlie, Charlie, go ahead, Charlie first time?

Long time?

Who are.

How do you think we do moving forward? Like?

I don't want to stand and blame all the office line and everything, Like I don't know if we've been spoiled by Benny Snail and arguz and third and short run the ball, you know, automatic first down?

How would you but go watch our third and shorts go watch our third and shorts. He didn't have a chance. I mean, h Demmy didn't have a chance. He was hit two yards before the line of scrimmage.

I mean you think that offensive line probably what do you think? I think it's I don't know, move forward.

I don't know that they're gonna They're gonna have to scheme around a bad offensive line, which is not the way Mark Stoops wants to play football. Right, he does not. I mean Mike Leach did that for years, right, Mike Leach just got him a quarterback, spread it out and threw it around, and that was what he did. That's not how Mark Stoops wants to play. I don't really think that's how Bush Hamden wants to play either. If you go back and look, he ran the ball a lot. So how do you base an offense on sweeps and runs when your offensive line is getting blown off the ball every play? I don't know.

I don't know either. I mean, I don't know how we move forward after that.

I don't either, And I don't know that that necessarily they do, and they better figure out something because George is coming next week.

Yeah today, And it doesn't seem like you know, it's it's kind.

Of like, Okay, we just threw over kIPS in the one hand here with you know, running all the sweeps and trying to get the third and shorts first down.

It just didn't work out. So, I mean, I don't know how they.

Well, I appreciate the call. Somebody writes here Fireball Roberts was called Billy Fireball Roberts for a long time. Yeah, but then actually died in a car accident due to fire.

That's ironic.

Yeah, is that true? I know there was a Fireball Roberts, but he was called that before the wreck.

Died in a fiery crash at Charlotte Motor Speedway.

But that's not how he got the name.

I don't know which.

I would also be a terrible white reason to give him the name had that been the case. I'most assuming he got the name before, because people would just be cruel if they named him that afterwards. What's next?

You know, alib is only up one in the middle of the third quarter right.

Now that the Ryan's Alabama minus thirty one pick. It seems seemed I question that.

When he did it for the record and Eastern still hasn't scored we'll go to Josh Josh.

Go ahead, Josh, Matt, Josh, Denny Mansilla, Kentucky. And I preface that by saying, I think you'll recognize who I am and know that I'm not a flamer.

Okay, but.

Where I'm at right now? Why does Mitch Barnhart get a pass with with everything that's going on?

Well, I mean okay, so let me ask you a question. Would you what would you blame Mitch Barnhart? What would for tonight? What would you blame Mitch Barnhart for?

Well, when Mark Stoops walked or wanted to go to Texas A and m he should have been pushed just the same way that.

Well, they can't make him. I mean, well, but I mean, let's to be fair, Mitch, Mitch didn't give him anything to stay. Yeah, but Mitch didn't give him anything to stay. I mean, Mitch didn't say, like, it's not like he got a raise to stay, all right, he stays.

Look at Mitch Barnhart's record over his career. Okay, well he gets a free pass.

I disagree with you. And look if Mitch and I Mitch, Okay, Mitch, I don't think Mitch, listen, I don't know if Mitch's perfect. Hang on, it's not hard for me. You all you act like I'm friends with Mitch. I've spoken one on one to Mitch four times in my life for real, Like we're not We're not close. I'm close with Vince. Mitch Barnhart and I are not close. We get a lot of vice, like if whatever happened, I'm just saying to you, when you look at Mitch's career, he has been here almost twenty years, maybe more than yes, and he has I mean, I would argue, if you go back, I can look at our athletic department when he got here. There is a good argument that every single sports program, every single one of them, is better now than it was when he got here. Oka like all of the No, I'm serious when you say, when you let me finish, let me finish. Please let me turn him down and then I'll let him talk. If you want to say that Mitch might not be the perfect leader for the next twenty years, and ni On all that that's one case, and I would have that discussion with you. But he hired John Caliperi, he hired Nick binge On, he hired Matthew Mitchell, who had a lot of success. Kenny Brooks looks like a potential great hire. He hired probably the second best football coach we've ever had. He hired maybe the second or third best basketball coach. He hired the best baseball coach we ever had. We've won a national championship in volleyball. Every sport has gotten better now he's hired duds. Joker was a dud. Gillespie was a dud. Kyra Elsey didn't work out. But he also has had twenty plus years of hiring. Like you, you act like he's done nothing. Now I'll let you go ahead.

No, and I don't want you to think that he's done nothing. But here's what I will say. He was forced to make the basketball higher of CALIPERI.

That's not true. That that's not true, and that's the common that's not true. It is that's not true. That's I know. I literally was good friends with Mike Pratt during that process, and Mitch was not forced to do anything he wanted to. Mike Pratt and others kind of worked with him, but he wanted to. Now at the end, I'll also say this, he didn't do John Cali Perry went to him and said, do something to make me stay, and Mitch said no. And I think that was the right to decision that took gut and I.

And I agree with you too. I one percent. We got out of our lifetime contract.

Which guess who.

Signed Caliperry up for that?

Okay, I don't I mean, were you going to fire who was gonna fire John cal Perry? Be honest, were you who named me the ad that was gonna fire John.

I'm the biggest cow guy there is. I love Cal, right, so don't like it is not a I don't dislike Cal. But I'm sitting here and I'm watching and we're talking about all these other sports. It's not the sports that make money. If you look at the sports that the sports.

That make money. He's hired our third He's hired a basketball coach that won a national championship. He parted, he helped part with Tubby at the right time. Billy was a mistake, but he fired him at the right time. He hired our second best football co coach of all time. He's hired our best baseball coach of all time and probably our best women's basketball coach of all time.

I just don't know how you can say thatstball thing is is debatable.

For ever you think that we've had a better coach than Matthew Mitchell.

Here, it's really hard to tell.

Me.

Go look at the success. We never won anything in women's basketball until Matthews.

And what what did Matthew Mitchell win?

He went to like three elite eights, which was three more than we had been to before.

Yeah.

Hey, what I'm saying is he's behind in the nil deal, He's behind on that alcohol, he's behind on everything.

He is passed by And Okay, that's a different point. That's a different point.

Giving him a free pass and.

He is doesn't He doesn't get a free past. He doesn't get a free pass. There are people think Mitch has a million critics that. First of all, that's not true. Go online and look at the heat. He gets heat every And I'm not saying the second point you made, which is is he the best ad for the next generation of college sports is a fair question and one that I think is a reasonable debate. But to say what has he done is a ridiculous statement.

He needs to retire, all right.

I appreciate the call, and with that Billy, what a way to end it. Well, it's a good debate. There are people who believe that, but I do think there's this was true of John Caliperi, this is going to be true of Mark Stoops, and then he thinks it's true of Mitch Barnhart John Calipery. If anybody tries to say he wasn't a successful coach here, they are wrong. But it ended when it needed to end. I don't care what happens this year if we don't win another game. Mark Stoops was is and was a successful coach at Kentucky and Mitch Barnhardt has been a successful ID. The question becomes what is the right thing for the moment for Mark Stoops. He's got to get this turned around because this year can't go like tonight went. Thank you folks very much for listening. Prayers to everybody in the London Livingston area. I'm sure news will continue develop through the night. Hopefully there's a resolution to it, you know, before tomorrow. Thanks to Billy for sticking around Tomorrow, NFL all day, come out to Ksbar and watch the games. We could need your help because I got a feeling, Billy, you got a feeling like tonight wasn't a wild night there. I haven't looked at the numbers, but you know it wasn't a very celebratory mood. Cats go down thirty four to six, an embarrassing loss to South Carolina. This has been the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show

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