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This This Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

This This Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

What is up? Tom hard In for Matt Jones? Is the summer winds to a close. I am in Atlanta, Georgia. We've got Ryan and Drew with Mario and Lexington. Shannon is in Louisville. Gang, we got a lot to talk about, and we've got a special guest coming up at the bottom of the hour talking about a topic that may get me disinvited from coming back on the show ever again. But that's that's for later. Drew, Let's start with you. You've got a very punishable stern them. Ryan's got a punchable face, Shannon gets thrown around the ring but has never been punched in the face. And Mario is just too cool for anybody to put fingers on. How's everybody feeling today? And drew any any lasting bruises injuries from your altercation?

What is up? Tom hard In for Matt Jones? Is the summer winds to a close. I am in Atlanta, Georgia. We've got Ryan and Drew with Mario and Lexington. Shannon is in Louisville. Gang, we got a lot to talk about, and we've got a special guest coming up at the bottom of the hour talking about a topic that may get me disinvited from coming back on the show ever again. But that's that's for later. Drew, Let's start with you. You've got a very punishable stern them. Ryan's got a punchable face, Shannon gets thrown around the ring but has never been punched in the face. And Mario is just too cool for anybody to put fingers on. How's everybody feeling today? And drew any any lasting bruises injuries from your altercation?

You know, I don't want to give anyone too much credit, but I have. I do still feel it a little bit, but we're all right, sor right we were Rod and how off that win. It's not about the extracurriculars. It's about the fun we had in their building. Really, my wrists hurt more from putting the l's down than anything else. I think I broke them. My l's were down so much Monday night.

You know, I don't want to give anyone too much credit, but I have. I do still feel it a little bit, but we're all right, sor right we were Rod and how off that win. It's not about the extracurriculars. It's about the fun we had in their building. Really, my wrists hurt more from putting the l's down than anything else. I think I broke them. My l's were down so much Monday night.

I have so many questions about this. The first thing I thought of you guys kind of brought it up. Like you know, Ryan gets knocked unconscious in Columbia after the Kentucky South Carolina football game. You get some low for throwing punches at you after TVT the other night that big Kentucky went. But specifically, here's what I was wondering. You didn't address this. Do you think the person who accosted you knew who you were? And knew your name and knew your personality and what you do for a living. Or was this stranger on stranger crime.

I have so many questions about this. The first thing I thought of you guys kind of brought it up. Like you know, Ryan gets knocked unconscious in Columbia after the Kentucky South Carolina football game. You get some low for throwing punches at you after TVT the other night that big Kentucky went. But specifically, here's what I was wondering. You didn't address this. Do you think the person who accosted you knew who you were? And knew your name and knew your personality and what you do for a living. Or was this stranger on stranger crime.

I really don't know. We'd have to speak to that person. I had never seen that person in my life or had prior interactions, or had even seen them until after I had been hit.

I really don't know. We'd have to speak to that person. I had never seen that person in my life or had prior interactions, or had even seen them until after I had been hit.

So I don't know.

So I don't know.

I don't have those answers. Maybe, I mean, maybe he just saw that I did the L's down all night. I really don't know.

I don't have those answers. Maybe, I mean, maybe he just saw that I did the L's down all night. I really don't know.

Is he going to be your guest at ten thirty?

Is he going to be your guest at ten thirty?

Man?

Man?

Wouldn't that be awesome?

Wouldn't that be awesome?

It crossed my mind that Tom wouldn't tell us who this special guest is. It crossed my mind he tracked down the dude that punched Drew Tea.

It crossed my mind that Tom wouldn't tell us who this special guest is. It crossed my mind he tracked down the dude that punched Drew Tea.

If you want to call in, I want to put you on the air. It's not due to punch Drew. What Drew? You can't say his name?

If you want to call in, I want to put you on the air. It's not due to punch Drew. What Drew? You can't say his name?

I just well, we'll let everything play out. I mean, everybody knows its name. It's everywhere.

I just well, we'll let everything play out. I mean, everybody knows its name. It's everywhere.

But you know, okay, Well listen, here's the deal. You're you're a celebrity, like you're recognizable phase. You're a commercial entity, right? You do you have sponsorship deals in place with with companies? There's no way this guy did not know who you are. No way, there's no way he didn't know Steel at South Carolina. Maybe that was just you know, somebody hauling off on a Kentucky fan because they were being, you know, being jerks. But but this guy had to have known who you were. And to me, and I'm I don't have a law degree and I've never I haven't really spent that much time in the courtroom, to be honest. But to me, that makes it premeditated. Ryan, what do you think.

But you know, okay, Well listen, here's the deal. You're you're a celebrity, like you're recognizable phase. You're a commercial entity, right? You do you have sponsorship deals in place with with companies? There's no way this guy did not know who you are. No way, there's no way he didn't know Steel at South Carolina. Maybe that was just you know, somebody hauling off on a Kentucky fan because they were being, you know, being jerks. But but this guy had to have known who you were. And to me, and I'm I don't have a law degree and I've never I haven't really spent that much time in the courtroom, to be honest. But to me, that makes it premeditated. Ryan, what do you think.

I think you're on the right track.

I think you're on the right track.

I think this guy saw Drews kind of sitting in front of him the whole game, giving the l's down, celebrating that's Drew Franklin. And then he ended up as he leaves, walking by him and boom, gives him the little shot to the chest.

I think this guy saw Drews kind of sitting in front of him the whole game, giving the l's down, celebrating that's Drew Franklin. And then he ended up as he leaves, walking by him and boom, gives him the little shot to the chest.

You know what, you have a point because we all know my face isn't my money maker. He didn't aim for that, that would have done no damage to me. He went from my chest, which I need these lungs, this lung capacity radio show.

You know what, you have a point because we all know my face isn't my money maker. He didn't aim for that, that would have done no damage to me. He went from my chest, which I need these lungs, this lung capacity radio show.

Yeah, yeah, I think he might have attacked my career.

Yeah, yeah, I think he might have attacked my career.

Shannon. If you were in a press charges or file a lawsuit in your mind, does it change things if it was premeditated versus what they sometimes refer to as a crime of passion, like it was just convenient as he's walking by and he sees a random guy in blue throwing L's down. Does that change No?

Shannon. If you were in a press charges or file a lawsuit in your mind, does it change things if it was premeditated versus what they sometimes refer to as a crime of passion, like it was just convenient as he's walking by and he sees a random guy in blue throwing L's down. Does that change No?

Because if I get punched in the sternum, I'm calling TJ and he's gonna make them pay. That's what's gonna happen if it happens to me in public. But we already had on a hawk two as as Drew called him apologize to h Nate Cstina. So I think that this guy should call in and apologize to Drew for punching him in the sternum.

Because if I get punched in the sternum, I'm calling TJ and he's gonna make them pay. That's what's gonna happen if it happens to me in public. But we already had on a hawk two as as Drew called him apologize to h Nate Cstina. So I think that this guy should call in and apologize to Drew for punching him in the sternum.

Drew's injured would call and would we accept that apology?

Drew's injured would call and would we accept that apology?

I'd call it the worst call of the day. I don't need apology. Damage is done. What's a apology gonna do?

I'd call it the worst call of the day. I don't need apology. Damage is done. What's a apology gonna do?

You know?

You know?

We've all been that situation where after a rivalry game or a heated game, you end up having some interactions with other fans. I know, after Wisconsin had beat us in the Final four, guy I know and got into it, and it was a constant fan. They ain't got into a fistfight. So I mean, I know, I know what happens, but you rarely doesn't happen. I think in the arena, that's what I think make this one a little different. This They hadn't even left the stand, you haven't left the floor yet.

We've all been that situation where after a rivalry game or a heated game, you end up having some interactions with other fans. I know, after Wisconsin had beat us in the Final four, guy I know and got into it, and it was a constant fan. They ain't got into a fistfight. So I mean, I know, I know what happens, but you rarely doesn't happen. I think in the arena, that's what I think make this one a little different. This They hadn't even left the stand, you haven't left the floor yet.

You feel like it's it's more common once you you get outside of the arena. Now you're shoulder to shoulder usually, you know, walking down the street or going down the sidewalk, and people feel more free to talk smack at that point. Is that the difference?

You feel like it's it's more common once you you get outside of the arena. Now you're shoulder to shoulder usually, you know, walking down the street or going down the sidewalk, and people feel more free to talk smack at that point. Is that the difference?

Uh?

Uh?

I think you are making this sound like I had engaged anything with this person. I'm just walking by, living my life. I'm a victim of a random attack. Here, I'm an assault victim. There was no engagement where I said something to him, he said something back, and then it's on. I am with my wife walking towards a basketball floor.

I think you are making this sound like I had engaged anything with this person. I'm just walking by, living my life. I'm a victim of a random attack. Here, I'm an assault victim. There was no engagement where I said something to him, he said something back, and then it's on. I am with my wife walking towards a basketball floor.

And bam, bam. Did you see it?

And bam, bam. Did you see it?

Did not even see it coming.

Did not even see it coming.

He had a little posse with him too, you know, trying to act like they were holding them back, little posse.

He had a little posse with him too, you know, trying to act like they were holding them back, little posse.

So glad to correctly that could have really gone off the rails quickly. Kentucky football starting today, Am I right?

So glad to correctly that could have really gone off the rails quickly. Kentucky football starting today, Am I right?

Yeah?

Yeah?

On the field one I had to report their first meeting I think was at eight thirty this morning for their first meeting, first day of fall camp.

On the field one I had to report their first meeting I think was at eight thirty this morning for their first meeting, first day of fall camp.

So let's go.

So let's go.

Walker, Max Harrison leading that defense for returning starters on the old line, Rock fander Griff. What are the expectations Drew a quarterback? How good could Brock Vandergriff be? What is the ceiling for him?

Walker, Max Harrison leading that defense for returning starters on the old line, Rock fander Griff. What are the expectations Drew a quarterback? How good could Brock Vandergriff be? What is the ceiling for him?

We're hearing very good things we're getting Will Levis comparisons, not that he's going to go on and you know, be an NFL starter, but that how it's a very business like approach. The moment he got there, you know, it's not fun and games, it's where's my playbook, let's watch film. That kind of attitude coming from George and already haven't even though I didn't have much game experience. This isn't just some new guy ready to come into college football. He knows what he wants and what he's trying to accomplish this year. And another Levis comparison is that at sec ME today some of his Georgia teammates said that the man doesn't know how to slide, so when he runs, he's he's looking to run people over. So not trying to put that pressure on him, because Levis had an outstanding two years here. But I like the similarities out of spring and heading into the preseason camp of just his approach and uh maybe the way he will play. I don't know that he'll have the h that arm that Levis had that was pretty special. But I love what we're hearing of how he's working in the locker room already being a good leader, and then we'll see you. We heard good things about how he was just close to stilling that job at Georgia. That's the reason why Kentucky fans are so excited. We'll take Georgia's second best, we'll take their third best, but we're really excited to see him get on the field soon. So far, of what we've heard, it's it's all been positive.

We're hearing very good things we're getting Will Levis comparisons, not that he's going to go on and you know, be an NFL starter, but that how it's a very business like approach. The moment he got there, you know, it's not fun and games, it's where's my playbook, let's watch film. That kind of attitude coming from George and already haven't even though I didn't have much game experience. This isn't just some new guy ready to come into college football. He knows what he wants and what he's trying to accomplish this year. And another Levis comparison is that at sec ME today some of his Georgia teammates said that the man doesn't know how to slide, so when he runs, he's he's looking to run people over. So not trying to put that pressure on him, because Levis had an outstanding two years here. But I like the similarities out of spring and heading into the preseason camp of just his approach and uh maybe the way he will play. I don't know that he'll have the h that arm that Levis had that was pretty special. But I love what we're hearing of how he's working in the locker room already being a good leader, and then we'll see you. We heard good things about how he was just close to stilling that job at Georgia. That's the reason why Kentucky fans are so excited. We'll take Georgia's second best, we'll take their third best, but we're really excited to see him get on the field soon. So far, of what we've heard, it's it's all been positive.

I like the comp from a running standpoint, because that was you know, obviously, that was Levis's background of Penn State and how he was used, and he didn't get much of a chance to show off the cannon of an arm until he until he arrived at Kentucky. I'm getting I'm getting geared up for the physical play of college football by watching water polo and the Olympics. I mean that is just a beat down every single match. But that's that's for later. Ryan. Well, what's your scoop on the wide receiver room?

I like the comp from a running standpoint, because that was you know, obviously, that was Levis's background of Penn State and how he was used, and he didn't get much of a chance to show off the cannon of an arm until he until he arrived at Kentucky. I'm getting I'm getting geared up for the physical play of college football by watching water polo and the Olympics. I mean that is just a beat down every single match. But that's that's for later. Ryan. Well, what's your scoop on the wide receiver room?

Uh? Actually, we had dinner with Dane last night kind of.

Uh? Actually, we had dinner with Dane last night kind of.

Yeah, let's get ahead, it's hit and what's the news? Am I great?

Yeah, let's get ahead, it's hit and what's the news? Am I great?

You know I wanted to get together with him before camp started, so you know, with camp starting today, let's meet and I have a little dinner and talk a little bit about some stuff. We had a caller yesterday. I want to clarify some of the caller yesterday was Terry said, who you know? We know Dane and Berry on and kind of the cornerstone of the receiving room. Who are some other guys that we may see on the field. And I talked to Dane about it last night. And the guy that transferred from North Texas I can't even remember his name, but the receiver that transferred from North Texas is going to be on the field a lot. And Fred Ferrier from Frankfurt who transferred from UA B is gonna be on the fiddle lot. Those are the two names he gave us as also in that receiver room that see time on the field this year.

You know I wanted to get together with him before camp started, so you know, with camp starting today, let's meet and I have a little dinner and talk a little bit about some stuff. We had a caller yesterday. I want to clarify some of the caller yesterday was Terry said, who you know? We know Dane and Berry on and kind of the cornerstone of the receiving room. Who are some other guys that we may see on the field. And I talked to Dane about it last night. And the guy that transferred from North Texas I can't even remember his name, but the receiver that transferred from North Texas is going to be on the field a lot. And Fred Ferrier from Frankfurt who transferred from UA B is gonna be on the fiddle lot. Those are the two names he gave us as also in that receiver room that see time on the field this year.

Jamury Macklin.

Jamury Macklin.

Macklin.

Macklin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We mentioned Macklin yesterday. He's a guy to really watch them. Carry on, Tom Fred Ferrier from Frankfurt.

We mentioned Macklin yesterday. He's a guy to really watch them. Carry on, Tom Fred Ferrier from Frankfurt.

Fred Ferrier from Frankfort.

Fred Ferrier from Frankfort.

Yeah, say that, Say that ten times.

Yeah, say that, Say that ten times.

Fast, Fred Fredrian.

Fast, Fred Fredrian.

I can't do it.

I can't do it.

You can't. I'm sorry, I'm missing Drew. Who's Who's the North Texas guy?

You can't. I'm sorry, I'm missing Drew. Who's Who's the North Texas guy?

Jamury Macklin. We named him yesterday when a caller asked about uh guys to watch. He's a North Texas transfer related to former NFL receiver Jeremy Macklin.

Jamury Macklin. We named him yesterday when a caller asked about uh guys to watch. He's a North Texas transfer related to former NFL receiver Jeremy Macklin.

You know.

You know.

There you go. Yeah, it's a Missouri guy, right.

There you go. Yeah, it's a Missouri guy, right.

Yes, right, and played for the Eagles for a long time kickoff return specialists in addition to being an elite wide receiver playing with Chase Daniel on that Missouri team that went to number one in the country in two thousand and seven. So one of the really one of the best wide receivers in Missouri.

Yes, right, and played for the Eagles for a long time kickoff return specialists in addition to being an elite wide receiver playing with Chase Daniel on that Missouri team that went to number one in the country in two thousand and seven. So one of the really one of the best wide receivers in Missouri.

I don't remember any of that. Yeah, we don't. We don't remember that. We don't remember any of that. I remember it's right.

I don't remember any of that. Yeah, we don't. We don't remember that. We don't remember any of that. I remember it's right.

Because you got knocked out.

Because you got knocked out.

I got knocked out of Caroline.

I got knocked out of Caroline.

If I were there, he'd be about to get knocked out again talking to them.

If I were there, he'd be about to get knocked out again talking to them.

Now here's here's another little we're talking about the quarterbacks. We've talked about this on the show, but Tom, they're gonna have packages in place where they're gonna have two quarterbacks on the field at the same time. With Gavin Wimsit now in camp, he can do some things that I think, and I think, uh bush Handen wants to kind of utilize both of those guys, So I think we're gonna see a little of that once in a while.

Now here's here's another little we're talking about the quarterbacks. We've talked about this on the show, but Tom, they're gonna have packages in place where they're gonna have two quarterbacks on the field at the same time. With Gavin Wimsit now in camp, he can do some things that I think, and I think, uh bush Handen wants to kind of utilize both of those guys, So I think we're gonna see a little of that once in a while.

Drew.

Drew.

I hate to be negative, but you've got an NFL caliber quarterback taking most of your snaps. Don't you want him to take all of your snaps when he's available?

I hate to be negative, but you've got an NFL caliber quarterback taking most of your snaps. Don't you want him to take all of your snaps when he's available?

It would seem that way, and I'll be honest, it was a bit of a surprise when Gavin Wimsit transferred in. He's started a lot of games at Rutgers through for close to two thousand yards last year, so it's interesting that guy would come over here. I assume he would know he'd have to be playing a little bit to take this job. So it you know, what's the old saying, if you have two quarterbacks, you I have one. I don't think it's that scenario, but I think in the red zone especially, there are gonna have some packages.

It would seem that way, and I'll be honest, it was a bit of a surprise when Gavin Wimsit transferred in. He's started a lot of games at Rutgers through for close to two thousand yards last year, so it's interesting that guy would come over here. I assume he would know he'd have to be playing a little bit to take this job. So it you know, what's the old saying, if you have two quarterbacks, you I have one. I don't think it's that scenario, but I think in the red zone especially, there are gonna have some packages.

I get a little tricky with him.

I get a little tricky with him.

Did he commit after Brock was already lined up?

Did he commit after Brock was already lined up?

He is a late addition.

He is a late addition.

That's why I was kind of a surprise, the guy that was a maybe even two three year starter at Rutgers transferring where he knew he wouldn't be the number one.

That's why I was kind of a surprise, the guy that was a maybe even two three year starter at Rutgers transferring where he knew he wouldn't be the number one.

That's interesting, but it also shows the value I think, just on the surface level of where would you rather play football? You know, would you rather be in the SEC playing for Kentucky and having a chance to win a lot of games and having eight home games and playing a top ten schedule, or getting your teeth kicked in every single day ruts.

That's interesting, but it also shows the value I think, just on the surface level of where would you rather play football? You know, would you rather be in the SEC playing for Kentucky and having a chance to win a lot of games and having eight home games and playing a top ten schedule, or getting your teeth kicked in every single day ruts.

He's also a Kentucky native, so there could have been a little wanting to get home for that too. He's from Ryan's third hometown of Owensborough.

He's also a Kentucky native, so there could have been a little wanting to get home for that too. He's from Ryan's third hometown of Owensborough.

Third hometown.

Third hometown.

Yeah, you know, I Tom, I have.

Yeah, you know, I Tom, I have.

I have several hometowns, and Owensborough's count Oldensborough's one of them. I went to school there, I lived there, so it's kind of a hometown.

I have several hometowns, and Owensborough's count Oldensborough's one of them. I went to school there, I lived there, so it's kind of a hometown.

Actually has a couple actually still like here.

Actually has a couple actually still like here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, but I think whims it I think with Bush Hampton with the offense, he wants to try to run. He wants the quarterback to be able to to run and do some things. And I think that's where they may try to use whims it.

Uh, but I think whims it I think with Bush Hampton with the offense, he wants to try to run. He wants the quarterback to be able to to run and do some things. And I think that's where they may try to use whims it.

Uh, that sounds that sounds really good. By the way, we talked about lawsuits already. Can somebody do the TJ read? Can we get that eut of the way? Do we need to do that?

Uh, that sounds that sounds really good. By the way, we talked about lawsuits already. Can somebody do the TJ read? Can we get that eut of the way? Do we need to do that?

You know?

You know?

Uh?

Uh?

Every episode is sponsored by the TJ SMIDT Law Office. And if you ever need him, called TJ. Because Shannon, what will happen?

Every episode is sponsored by the TJ SMIDT Law Office. And if you ever need him, called TJ. Because Shannon, what will happen?

He'll make them pay. He'll make them pay by guy.

He'll make them pay. He'll make them pay by guy.

So Drew already called the DJ and I already TJ call you immediately one or the other.

So Drew already called the DJ and I already TJ call you immediately one or the other.

I think I reached out to TJ for just found some few things.

I think I reached out to TJ for just found some few things.

He'll make them pay.

He'll make them pay.

He'll go to TJ for all your personal injury lawyer needs.

He'll go to TJ for all your personal injury lawyer needs.

There we go.

There we go.

Did you send that text before you left the building?

Did you send that text before you left the building?

Uh?

Uh?

No, no, no, no, I was. I was too caught up in the moment. That's why people like, did you retaliate?

No, no, no, no, I was. I was too caught up in the moment. That's why people like, did you retaliate?

No?

No?

I didn't retaliate. I went straight out to the court and had fun with lat familiar because That's why I was there. I'm worried about the other stuff afterwards.

I didn't retaliate. I went straight out to the court and had fun with lat familiar because That's why I was there. I'm worried about the other stuff afterwards.

The law familiar stuff is so cool, and I worked TVT years ago. Now Fox has it, so it's we don't we can't even do it anyway. But I just kept waiting for them to figure out how to put together teams at schools that really care and that matter. And when I was doing it, and I know, all I stayed is up next and Jared Salinger was playing on the team with Aaron Kraft and that was the final four team oh four, oh five, oh six, something like that. You know, that was that was one with big followings. But Kentucky didn't have a team, and it took him forever to kind of get this thing figured out. Where now you have an attendance record, now you've got all of this interest, not just locally but nationally. It feels like it feels like they're on the right path. And my favorite thing of all of this is how now Mario's got a favorite team.

The law familiar stuff is so cool, and I worked TVT years ago. Now Fox has it, so it's we don't we can't even do it anyway. But I just kept waiting for them to figure out how to put together teams at schools that really care and that matter. And when I was doing it, and I know, all I stayed is up next and Jared Salinger was playing on the team with Aaron Kraft and that was the final four team oh four, oh five, oh six, something like that. You know, that was that was one with big followings. But Kentucky didn't have a team, and it took him forever to kind of get this thing figured out. Where now you have an attendance record, now you've got all of this interest, not just locally but nationally. It feels like it feels like they're on the right path. And my favorite thing of all of this is how now Mario's got a favorite team.

That's right.

That's right.

I mean, that is so cool. And maybe we'll throw I don't he probably don't have a micfront him, but we'll throw it down that later because I want to talk about that, So let's go to break. We'll got more to talk about. I want to I want to introduce who's going to be on at the bottom of the hour, so we get we can maximize the time with him.

I mean, that is so cool. And maybe we'll throw I don't he probably don't have a micfront him, but we'll throw it down that later because I want to talk about that, So let's go to break. We'll got more to talk about. I want to I want to introduce who's going to be on at the bottom of the hour, so we get we can maximize the time with him.

And none of us know. None of us know who this surprise guest is coming on today.

And none of us know. None of us know who this surprise guest is coming on today.

Ron actually stopped out of our house yesterday. We were trying to guess who it could be.

Ron actually stopped out of our house yesterday. We were trying to guess who it could be.

We would never guess, You would never guess. And it's it's not about the guest himself, although he's going to provide great information. It's more about the topic that could be incredibly divisive and probably something that Matt would never ever ever allow.

We would never guess, You would never guess. And it's it's not about the guest himself, although he's going to provide great information. It's more about the topic that could be incredibly divisive and probably something that Matt would never ever ever allow.

Oh good, you're going out your last song.

Oh good, you're going out your last song.

You're going out swinging today, your last show, one song, and we're going down.

You're going out swinging today, your last show, one song, and we're going down.

I'm gonna convince him never to ask me back. That's really the goal of this topic. At the bottom of the hour. All right, well, let's take a break. When would come back. I want to share an experience that I had, and then we'll get you ready for our topic at the bottom of the hour. You're listening to Kentucky Sports Radio. This is epic LL cool Jay to bring us back. Mama said, knock you out. You can't hear it on them. Still can't hear it on the podcast.

I'm gonna convince him never to ask me back. That's really the goal of this topic. At the bottom of the hour. All right, well, let's take a break. When would come back. I want to share an experience that I had, and then we'll get you ready for our topic at the bottom of the hour. You're listening to Kentucky Sports Radio. This is epic LL cool Jay to bring us back. Mama said, knock you out. You can't hear it on them. Still can't hear it on the podcast.

Huh, I can't hear it the podcast. You can sing it though, if you'd like, then they can hear that part.

Huh, I can't hear it the podcast. You can sing it though, if you'd like, then they can hear that part.

I'm more of a sir mixed that guy. But yeah, next time around, next time right, Yeah, I celebrate all of LL's catalog. By the way, have you guys been watching much of the Olympics.

I'm more of a sir mixed that guy. But yeah, next time around, next time right, Yeah, I celebrate all of LL's catalog. By the way, have you guys been watching much of the Olympics.

Yeah, I know, Well, we have it on right now at cas bar and grill. We got a little swimming on and a little fencing down at the other end. But this is about all I've seen so far is what I'm watching right now.

Yeah, I know, Well, we have it on right now at cas bar and grill. We got a little swimming on and a little fencing down at the other end. But this is about all I've seen so far is what I'm watching right now.

I got a little behind on Monday in Louisville, but otherwise I've watched about every minute I could. Got the gymnastics last night. I didn't get to see Nadal Djokovic the other day. I was excited about that one.

I got a little behind on Monday in Louisville, but otherwise I've watched about every minute I could. Got the gymnastics last night. I didn't get to see Nadal Djokovic the other day. I was excited about that one.

Missed that one.

Missed that one.

But I saw a rugby. I'm taking it all in tom as much as I can watch.

But I saw a rugby. I'm taking it all in tom as much as I can watch.

The rugby seven's has been amazing. The US one bronze yesterday with a it was basically like if it were football, it would have been a ninety eight yard run at the buzzer. I saw that she went through the line. She was basically tackled. Somehow she kept going and boom, she took it to the house. She had to kick and then she had to make the kick to win it. And she said afterwards, She's like, oh, I thought the run won it. I didn't even really know what the score was because Australia had missed their kick their try. I don't understand all the rules. All I know is rugby seven's is awesome. I think it's done. I was watching some of the three on three basketball yesterday. Ryan Howard's Ryan Howard's playing for United say it's along with Haley ban Lytt on the women's side. The men's side has jim or Fordett, who I loved when he was at BU national player of the Year, and Kenyon Barry. I don't know if you remember Caanan Barry played at Florida. He's one that shot his free throws granny style.

The rugby seven's has been amazing. The US one bronze yesterday with a it was basically like if it were football, it would have been a ninety eight yard run at the buzzer. I saw that she went through the line. She was basically tackled. Somehow she kept going and boom, she took it to the house. She had to kick and then she had to make the kick to win it. And she said afterwards, She's like, oh, I thought the run won it. I didn't even really know what the score was because Australia had missed their kick their try. I don't understand all the rules. All I know is rugby seven's is awesome. I think it's done. I was watching some of the three on three basketball yesterday. Ryan Howard's Ryan Howard's playing for United say it's along with Haley ban Lytt on the women's side. The men's side has jim or Fordett, who I loved when he was at BU national player of the Year, and Kenyon Barry. I don't know if you remember Caanan Barry played at Florida. He's one that shot his free throws granny style.

You remember.

You remember.

Twelve second shot clock. Fun game. But to be quite honest, we're terrible. Our teams are getting smoked.

Twelve second shot clock. Fun game. But to be quite honest, we're terrible. Our teams are getting smoked.

Yeah, I know, I knew the women it got b right. Howard's team got beat their first round game.

Yeah, I know, I knew the women it got b right. Howard's team got beat their first round game.

Totally different game than like the three and three you play in your backyard, because it's constant, like as soon as the ball goes through the hoop, you kick it back out, you get back behind the three point line, and as soon as you touch it, that twelve second shot clock goes. So it's it's like a balance of conditioning and and hoops and making shots. It looks really hard, Shannon. When do we go to break before right at ten thirty?

Totally different game than like the three and three you play in your backyard, because it's constant, like as soon as the ball goes through the hoop, you kick it back out, you get back behind the three point line, and as soon as you touch it, that twelve second shot clock goes. So it's it's like a balance of conditioning and and hoops and making shots. It looks really hard, Shannon. When do we go to break before right at ten thirty?

Uh?

Uh?

Yeah, yeah, ten twenty nine forty to give you the exact okay second.

Yeah, yeah, ten twenty nine forty to give you the exact okay second.

Sorry to show you how the sausage is made. I don't I'm still I've only done it all summer and I'm.

Sorry to show you how the sausage is made. I don't I'm still I've only done it all summer and I'm.

Still dotting tenth show.

Still dotting tenth show.

We don't know.

We don't know.

I'm new to this. I'm a rookie. All right, here's here's my idea for the bottom of the hour. Politics in our country this summer has just gone off the rails, right, so many wild things from Biden dropping out to Trump's attempted assassination, all of this stuff. And I'm not a politics guy, Like, I'm not good at talking about it. And I know that there's some stuff that Matt just totally avoids when it comes to this show. But I have a buddy who kind of knows how some of this stuff works. I went to college with. I'm gonna bring him on and we're going to talk about the attempted assassination on Trump. What do you think, Ryan, good idea? A bad idea?

I'm new to this. I'm a rookie. All right, here's here's my idea for the bottom of the hour. Politics in our country this summer has just gone off the rails, right, so many wild things from Biden dropping out to Trump's attempted assassination, all of this stuff. And I'm not a politics guy, Like, I'm not good at talking about it. And I know that there's some stuff that Matt just totally avoids when it comes to this show. But I have a buddy who kind of knows how some of this stuff works. I went to college with. I'm gonna bring him on and we're going to talk about the attempted assassination on Trump. What do you think, Ryan, good idea? A bad idea?

Well, I mean, it's it's a moment in our history where all of us are going to remember this happened, like I like, for me, I remember when Reagan there was assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. I was in high school. So now we all remember the assassinations attempt on a former president. I mean, it's it's historical, it.

Well, I mean, it's it's a moment in our history where all of us are going to remember this happened, like I like, for me, I remember when Reagan there was assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. I was in high school. So now we all remember the assassinations attempt on a former president. I mean, it's it's historical, it.

Is, and there's still hearings going on on how the Secret Service handled it. That's what's in the news currently. That was yesterday the new acting director of the Secret Services get grilled on Capitol Hill. So the person we're going to have on was one of my fraternity brothers at the University of Missouri who immediately upon graduation, he was a wrestler at Missou, went into the industry and he worked for the FBI. Then he worked for the Secret Service, and he was on presidential detail for both George W. Bush and Obama. I mean, this is a guy who every morning would go jogging with George Bush, and then a couple of years later he'd be the one that would ride down the elevator with Barack Obama and take him down to the first floor and go on these trips and do the advance. And this is kind of where I think the Secret Services catching a lot of heat for how they handled everything. It wasn't just in the moment, it was how the advanced team handled everything and why the former directors now fired. So we're going to have Tim reblay on. He was on Fox News last week going over all of this stuff and a lot of these failures, and I just want him to explain to us what should have happened in that moment and how they prepare for I don't want to see inevitable, but how they prepare for worst case scenario and where Secret Service dropped the ball. Because what's going on now at Capitol Hill is there's so much political grand standing that I think it's hard for normal people like us to really understand what matters and what doesn't and what the director of the Secret Service can share and what they can't share. Right, Because if you share with these senators all of the details. Then you're just giving our adversaries the entire playbook. So there's only so much you can say in these hearings as well, Drew, is there anything you want to hear from a former Secret Service member about how things were handled that day and how they should have been handled?

Is, and there's still hearings going on on how the Secret Service handled it. That's what's in the news currently. That was yesterday the new acting director of the Secret Services get grilled on Capitol Hill. So the person we're going to have on was one of my fraternity brothers at the University of Missouri who immediately upon graduation, he was a wrestler at Missou, went into the industry and he worked for the FBI. Then he worked for the Secret Service, and he was on presidential detail for both George W. Bush and Obama. I mean, this is a guy who every morning would go jogging with George Bush, and then a couple of years later he'd be the one that would ride down the elevator with Barack Obama and take him down to the first floor and go on these trips and do the advance. And this is kind of where I think the Secret Services catching a lot of heat for how they handled everything. It wasn't just in the moment, it was how the advanced team handled everything and why the former directors now fired. So we're going to have Tim reblay on. He was on Fox News last week going over all of this stuff and a lot of these failures, and I just want him to explain to us what should have happened in that moment and how they prepare for I don't want to see inevitable, but how they prepare for worst case scenario and where Secret Service dropped the ball. Because what's going on now at Capitol Hill is there's so much political grand standing that I think it's hard for normal people like us to really understand what matters and what doesn't and what the director of the Secret Service can share and what they can't share. Right, Because if you share with these senators all of the details. Then you're just giving our adversaries the entire playbook. So there's only so much you can say in these hearings as well, Drew, is there anything you want to hear from a former Secret Service member about how things were handled that day and how they should have been handled?

I mean, I'd be interested to here, maybe not have anything specific that I've thought of, because to be honest, I haven't really kept up with it that much. Certainly, this is a lot different. I was thinking you were gonna have Pat Kelsey. This is not the direction I thought we were going. That was my guest. But no, I think it'd be very interesting to hear for something that was, obviously, as Ryan said, one of the biggest stories in our country in several years.

I mean, I'd be interested to here, maybe not have anything specific that I've thought of, because to be honest, I haven't really kept up with it that much. Certainly, this is a lot different. I was thinking you were gonna have Pat Kelsey. This is not the direction I thought we were going. That was my guest. But no, I think it'd be very interesting to hear for something that was, obviously, as Ryan said, one of the biggest stories in our country in several years.

You know, the summer shows, you never know which way they're going to go. Tom.

You know, the summer shows, you never know which way they're going to go. Tom.

You know, last week we had in depth discussions on deviled eggs, and yesterday it was Armadillo's. You're gonna get serious with this after the commercial break and talk something very serious with this, so we a lesson will be learned here today.

You know, last week we had in depth discussions on deviled eggs, and yesterday it was Armadillo's. You're gonna get serious with this after the commercial break and talk something very serious with this, so we a lesson will be learned here today.

I just wanted to change speeds a little bit, right. I mean, there's only so much Lugi's in Nate Sestina's face that will carry us through an entire summer show. And we have access to a knowledgeable person, Shannon, what about I.

I just wanted to change speeds a little bit, right. I mean, there's only so much Lugi's in Nate Sestina's face that will carry us through an entire summer show. And we have access to a knowledgeable person, Shannon, what about I.

Would actually like to ask him what he would have done to keep Natesanstina from getting spot on by Louisville after the game. What kind of protection did Nate need?

Would actually like to ask him what he would have done to keep Natesanstina from getting spot on by Louisville after the game. What kind of protection did Nate need?

It's a great question. If you had an advanced team in place that knew that there was a spinner, could you have shut it down before?

It's a great question. If you had an advanced team in place that knew that there was a spinner, could you have shut it down before?

To Curt, yes, yeah, I just want to know, like, when we're bringing in a president to a specific what are like, in detail the things that they have to go through to get that stage and that area ready for a president or someone running for president to come in. Because to me that that stuff is fascinating, the detail that they have they're supposed to go through to get an area ready for a president.

To Curt, yes, yeah, I just want to know, like, when we're bringing in a president to a specific what are like, in detail the things that they have to go through to get that stage and that area ready for a president or someone running for president to come in. Because to me that that stuff is fascinating, the detail that they have they're supposed to go through to get an area ready for a president.

So like, how do you secure the area?

So like, how do you secure the area?

Yes?

Yes?

Yeah, yeah, so I remember I've had these conversations with Tim over the years that we're going to bring on at the bottom of the hour, and he was on the advanced team numerous times both domestically and internationally. In addition to being on presidential detail. I think you if I know it properly, like you're on the advanced team and then you get promoted to presidential detail, or if you're on your way out, you may do it on the way out. But generally domestically, like Kamala Harris was in Atlanta last night, and obviously she has protection. You come to Atlanta, they already have a lot of stuff in place, like they know who they've been to, major metropolitan areas. How to do it. Farm Field might be a little bit different, but we'll cover all that. I think it'll be interesting. We should learn something. We're gonna try to learn something this summer. Kentucky Sports Radio continues after this TJ.

Yeah, yeah, so I remember I've had these conversations with Tim over the years that we're going to bring on at the bottom of the hour, and he was on the advanced team numerous times both domestically and internationally. In addition to being on presidential detail. I think you if I know it properly, like you're on the advanced team and then you get promoted to presidential detail, or if you're on your way out, you may do it on the way out. But generally domestically, like Kamala Harris was in Atlanta last night, and obviously she has protection. You come to Atlanta, they already have a lot of stuff in place, like they know who they've been to, major metropolitan areas. How to do it. Farm Field might be a little bit different, but we'll cover all that. I think it'll be interesting. We should learn something. We're gonna try to learn something this summer. Kentucky Sports Radio continues after this TJ.

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He'll make them pay.

He'll make them pay.

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All right, Tom Harden for Matt Jones. We've got a special guest with us right now, Tim Rebelay, who was a Secret Service agent for a number of years. Also college fraternity brother mine nice enough to join us. All right, Tim, here's the thing, And you may have heard like this is generally a sports show, so bear with us as we kind of attack the basics of this thing to help folks throughout the commonwealth understand kind of what happened and how everything rolled out in Butler, Pennsylvania. But first of all, thanks for being with us man. I appreciate it.

All right, Tom Harden for Matt Jones. We've got a special guest with us right now, Tim Rebelay, who was a Secret Service agent for a number of years. Also college fraternity brother mine nice enough to join us. All right, Tim, here's the thing, And you may have heard like this is generally a sports show, so bear with us as we kind of attack the basics of this thing to help folks throughout the commonwealth understand kind of what happened and how everything rolled out in Butler, Pennsylvania. But first of all, thanks for being with us man. I appreciate it.

Yeah, pooey, great, great to be on and great to hear you in. Talk to you Tom.

Yeah, pooey, great, great to be on and great to hear you in. Talk to you Tom.

All right. So I did have a question that came in via Twitter to start things off that is unrelated to this, but uh, you you were on presidential detail for both Bush and Obama, and this person wanted to know, for a secret service member, where your job is to lay your life on the line, how do you keep personal politics out of it or do personal politics ever come into how you do your job every day.

All right. So I did have a question that came in via Twitter to start things off that is unrelated to this, but uh, you you were on presidential detail for both Bush and Obama, and this person wanted to know, for a secret service member, where your job is to lay your life on the line, how do you keep personal politics out of it or do personal politics ever come into how you do your job every day.

No, that's a great question. I get that a lot. But absolutely so. We as agents, uh, we are a political you know. We we take an oath on the Constitution of the United States of America and that that office uh and and that that document is greater than than than any one person. And also we protect the office of the presidency. It doesn't matter. As you stated, I I protected Republicans, Democrats, uh, you know, also world leaders.

No, that's a great question. I get that a lot. But absolutely so. We as agents, uh, we are a political you know. We we take an oath on the Constitution of the United States of America and that that office uh and and that that document is greater than than than any one person. And also we protect the office of the presidency. It doesn't matter. As you stated, I I protected Republicans, Democrats, uh, you know, also world leaders.

Uh. You know, throughout the world.

Uh. You know, throughout the world.

So we take the oaths on the Constitution to uh to defend the Constitution and protect those individuals that so happen to hold that office.

So we take the oaths on the Constitution to uh to defend the Constitution and protect those individuals that so happen to hold that office.

Okay. Ronald Rowe is the acting director of the Secret Service. He's been on the hill testifying before a Senate Judiciary and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committees the last couple of days. He took over after Kimberly Cheedle resigned following her appearance before a House committee. I want you to speak for a moment about the pride you took in your job and the organization, and then your reaction to what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania on July thirteenth, just as someone who's spent and dedicated so many years of your life to the Secret Service.

Okay. Ronald Rowe is the acting director of the Secret Service. He's been on the hill testifying before a Senate Judiciary and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committees the last couple of days. He took over after Kimberly Cheedle resigned following her appearance before a House committee. I want you to speak for a moment about the pride you took in your job and the organization, and then your reaction to what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania on July thirteenth, just as someone who's spent and dedicated so many years of your life to the Secret Service.

Yeah, so great question. So yeah, I quit it. And I understand this is sports talk.

Yeah, so great question. So yeah, I quit it. And I understand this is sports talk.

So it would be like a team that you you know, you you invest time in training and you get to know your team members or my fellow agents. You know, I traveled the world and spend you know, countless holidays, Christmas Is, birthdays, anniversaries in foreign countries and in you know state, so you know, working midnight shifts and everything. So you really developed that bond which is really similar to a sports team or fraternity or you know, something like of that nature that that people can relate to. And it's a bond that you know, is this thick as blood and knowing that you potentially may have to give your life for the Constitution. As I mentioned previously, that bond is even thicker.

So it would be like a team that you you know, you you invest time in training and you get to know your team members or my fellow agents. You know, I traveled the world and spend you know, countless holidays, Christmas Is, birthdays, anniversaries in foreign countries and in you know state, so you know, working midnight shifts and everything. So you really developed that bond which is really similar to a sports team or fraternity or you know, something like of that nature that that people can relate to. And it's a bond that you know, is this thick as blood and knowing that you potentially may have to give your life for the Constitution. As I mentioned previously, that bond is even thicker.

Some of my.

Some of my.

Closest friends on this planet are former agents, you know, from the Secret Service. As it relates to Butler, Pennsylvania. On July thirteenth, I was actually watching that rally live on TV with my son, and as soon as everything went down, I knew exactly what happened, and obviously, like every other American, I wanted to make sure the former president was safe. But then me I wanted to jump through the TV because, you know, twenty two years with the Agency, you trained just like a sports team, and you have muscle memory, and all my training was kicking in, and I wanted to jump through the TV and help because you spend a career, spend a lifetime hoping that moment never happens, but one it does, and when it did on that Saturday afternoon on July thirteenth. I wanted to be there because that's what I trained. That's why I would wake up at Odark thirty and run and work out, lift weights and shoot, training for that exact moment.

Closest friends on this planet are former agents, you know, from the Secret Service. As it relates to Butler, Pennsylvania. On July thirteenth, I was actually watching that rally live on TV with my son, and as soon as everything went down, I knew exactly what happened, and obviously, like every other American, I wanted to make sure the former president was safe. But then me I wanted to jump through the TV because, you know, twenty two years with the Agency, you trained just like a sports team, and you have muscle memory, and all my training was kicking in, and I wanted to jump through the TV and help because you spend a career, spend a lifetime hoping that moment never happens, but one it does, and when it did on that Saturday afternoon on July thirteenth. I wanted to be there because that's what I trained. That's why I would wake up at Odark thirty and run and work out, lift weights and shoot, training for that exact moment.

So you know, it.

So you know, it.

Was hard.

Was hard.

You know, obviously as an American.

You know, obviously as an American.

You know to see an attack like that, but it was you know, also hard as an agent to sit back and be kind of helpless and not be able to help.

You know to see an attack like that, but it was you know, also hard as an agent to sit back and be kind of helpless and not be able to help.

I wanted to do something to assist my former colleagues.

I wanted to do something to assist my former colleagues.

Tim Revlay is our guests. You spent twenty two years in the Secret Service and was on presidential detail with both George W. Bush and Obama in addition to it being a family, and you describe the Secret Services being a team. There's several different levels, right, I mean, you have a first team, and you have reserves, and you have a JV. And I'm simplifying it, but in terms of the ones that jumped on this age immediately after the shots rang out, I kind of view those people from a sports standpoint as like they're the first teamers, right, They're the ones that Madam most is with the President every single day everywhere he goes. And you correct me if I'm wrong in that observation. But what I'm getting at is I wanted we know there are systemic failures throughout in both the planning and execution. But how did you think that those first team are so to speak, or however you guys describe them in the service. How do you gauge their reaction the job that they did in getting to Trump.

Tim Revlay is our guests. You spent twenty two years in the Secret Service and was on presidential detail with both George W. Bush and Obama in addition to it being a family, and you describe the Secret Services being a team. There's several different levels, right, I mean, you have a first team, and you have reserves, and you have a JV. And I'm simplifying it, but in terms of the ones that jumped on this age immediately after the shots rang out, I kind of view those people from a sports standpoint as like they're the first teamers, right, They're the ones that Madam most is with the President every single day everywhere he goes. And you correct me if I'm wrong in that observation. But what I'm getting at is I wanted we know there are systemic failures throughout in both the planning and execution. But how did you think that those first team are so to speak, or however you guys describe them in the service. How do you gauge their reaction the job that they did in getting to Trump.

Yeah, so those agents that you saw, we refer to as the shift. So those agents are permanently assigned to the former president's detail. So they are their Their duty, as you saw, was to cover, shield and evacuate the president. The remaining agents that were there were typically from the field or the field office I eat, in this case, the Pittsburgh Field Office. So I've thought about this. It is to equate it to like a sports team. You know, you would have you know, the first first team offense going in uh to protect your guys, and then you may have uh, you know, the second or third team offense or so to speak, uh, you know lining in.

Yeah, so those agents that you saw, we refer to as the shift. So those agents are permanently assigned to the former president's detail. So they are their Their duty, as you saw, was to cover, shield and evacuate the president. The remaining agents that were there were typically from the field or the field office I eat, in this case, the Pittsburgh Field Office. So I've thought about this. It is to equate it to like a sports team. You know, you would have you know, the first first team offense going in uh to protect your guys, and then you may have uh, you know, the second or third team offense or so to speak, uh, you know lining in.

Wait.

Wait.

But again, don't don't get me wrong, they're all highly qualified. Less than one percent of people in the world that apply for the US Secret Service, uh, you know, become agents. So they're all highly trained, highly skilled.

But again, don't don't get me wrong, they're all highly qualified. Less than one percent of people in the world that apply for the US Secret Service, uh, you know, become agents. So they're all highly trained, highly skilled.

Men and women.

Men and women.

But to answer your question, I'll tell you tom the UH the their reaction, though I know there's a lot of criticism online, their reaction to to the situation.

But to answer your question, I'll tell you tom the UH the their reaction, though I know there's a lot of criticism online, their reaction to to the situation.

Is textbooked.

Is textbooked.

It'll be looked at for the next one hundred plus years in secret service academy on what to do, cover, shield and evacuate uh to you know, and a lot of people that are criticizing they've never had rounds in coming wazing past their head. Everybody talks a big game, but you know, to quote Mike Tyson, everybody has a plan un till you're punch in the mouth. And they they were punched in the mouth and they acted appropriately.

It'll be looked at for the next one hundred plus years in secret service academy on what to do, cover, shield and evacuate uh to you know, and a lot of people that are criticizing they've never had rounds in coming wazing past their head. Everybody talks a big game, but you know, to quote Mike Tyson, everybody has a plan un till you're punch in the mouth. And they they were punched in the mouth and they acted appropriately.

So I applaud them on the reaction.

So I applaud them on the reaction.

And like I said, that will be uh looked at for the next hundred plus years on what what to do correctly.

And like I said, that will be uh looked at for the next hundred plus years on what what to do correctly.

From your perspective, where did the biggest failure occur in Butler, Pennsylvania.

From your perspective, where did the biggest failure occur in Butler, Pennsylvania.

The biggest speluy to occur in Butler, Pennsylvania was we rely a lot on our local counterpart system.

The biggest speluy to occur in Butler, Pennsylvania was we rely a lot on our local counterpart system.

And you know, I love local law enforcement. I started my career.

And you know, I love local law enforcement. I started my career.

As a police officer in the city of Saint Louis years ago.

As a police officer in the city of Saint Louis years ago.

We can't do our job without them.

We can't do our job without them.

But that was the main you know, uh uh, you know fault in this situation.

But that was the main you know, uh uh, you know fault in this situation.

We we I keep saying we.

We we I keep saying we.

But the US Secret Service had a plan in place, which we like a blueprint or a game plan if you're a football team, and you know the the deepense if you will, didn't follow the game planned and there we was hold. Uh they were posted. Uh, they were supposed to be posted in a certain position, and they they weren't properly posted because it was too hot. And then on top of that, even if they stayed on their interior posts, which we've all learned, if they stayed there, they.

But the US Secret Service had a plan in place, which we like a blueprint or a game plan if you're a football team, and you know the the deepense if you will, didn't follow the game planned and there we was hold. Uh they were posted. Uh, they were supposed to be posted in a certain position, and they they weren't properly posted because it was too hot. And then on top of that, even if they stayed on their interior posts, which we've all learned, if they stayed there, they.

Would have observed the shooter.

Would have observed the shooter.

So it was many small failures that led to one major catastrophic failure. But to use the analogy of sports again, the Secret Service would be like the head coach. You have the offensive, defensive coordinators and such.

So it was many small failures that led to one major catastrophic failure. But to use the analogy of sports again, the Secret Service would be like the head coach. You have the offensive, defensive coordinators and such.

They do their do their jobs.

They do their do their jobs.

Out in the field, but then you have the actual the players that put the plan together.

Out in the field, but then you have the actual the players that put the plan together.

And the players failed.

And the players failed.

But ultimately that comes back to the head coach, which is the US Secret Service. So don't get don't don't take it that I'm blaming this on local law enforcement. It ultimately comes back on the U S Secret Service. We we failed or they failed, but it was a complete breakdown of assignments and missing assignments, then abandoning assignments overall some rebel.

But ultimately that comes back to the head coach, which is the US Secret Service. So don't get don't don't take it that I'm blaming this on local law enforcement. It ultimately comes back on the U S Secret Service. We we failed or they failed, but it was a complete breakdown of assignments and missing assignments, then abandoning assignments overall some rebel.

As our guest twenty two years the United States Secret Service and a career in law enforcement. The phrase that you just used just kind of boggles my mind and my assumption as you're talking about the local counter snipers, they're the ones who thought that it was too hot and weren't in position to cover the roof. Is that right?

As our guest twenty two years the United States Secret Service and a career in law enforcement. The phrase that you just used just kind of boggles my mind and my assumption as you're talking about the local counter snipers, they're the ones who thought that it was too hot and weren't in position to cover the roof. Is that right?

Well, so, to me, a lot of this and again there's a lot out in the media that isn't clarified.

Well, so, to me, a lot of this and again there's a lot out in the media that isn't clarified.

So we had US Secret Service.

So we had US Secret Service.

Counter snipers team at the three o'clock position, then he had another local team close to the three o'clock position in relation to the stage. And even though those guys were Giver County ESU counter snipers, it doesn't matter. Nobody's talked about the fact we don't put snipers in those positions with weapons. Typically nobody's talked about it. But they would be have their weapons decked, they would probably have their side arm, but not long guns. They were there specifically to post a vulnerability to not allow access to the roofs or obviously take the high ground to see anybody that would take access to opposing roofs. So they weren't there in a sniper position, which nobody's really talked about. They were there as what we used the term post standard. They were there to post a vulnerability that was identified within the security plan, and they took it upon themselves because it was too hot whatever it is, which is completely unacceptable to move inside of the AC. Well, you know, the other one hundred plus agents and officers were out there in the heat. That's part of the job, you know, heat, rain, wind, whatever it is, you deal with it. But again I might sound like I'm throwing them under the bus, but a lot of people.

Counter snipers team at the three o'clock position, then he had another local team close to the three o'clock position in relation to the stage. And even though those guys were Giver County ESU counter snipers, it doesn't matter. Nobody's talked about the fact we don't put snipers in those positions with weapons. Typically nobody's talked about it. But they would be have their weapons decked, they would probably have their side arm, but not long guns. They were there specifically to post a vulnerability to not allow access to the roofs or obviously take the high ground to see anybody that would take access to opposing roofs. So they weren't there in a sniper position, which nobody's really talked about. They were there as what we used the term post standard. They were there to post a vulnerability that was identified within the security plan, and they took it upon themselves because it was too hot whatever it is, which is completely unacceptable to move inside of the AC. Well, you know, the other one hundred plus agents and officers were out there in the heat. That's part of the job, you know, heat, rain, wind, whatever it is, you deal with it. But again I might sound like I'm throwing them under the bus, but a lot of people.

Haven't talked about this type of thing, and it's about.

Haven't talked about this type of thing, and it's about.

Time that, you know, we point out the facts of what's going on.

Time that, you know, we point out the facts of what's going on.

That's all I've talked about from the last you know, eighteen days.

That's all I've talked about from the last you know, eighteen days.

Yeah no, And I think with the political grandstanding that happens in every one of these hearings, we lose attention to detail and we lose a lot of the facts because it turns into yelling about this, yelling about that. Tim Rebelly served United States Secret Surface for over two decades. He's our guest. One of the questions we had from from Shannon was he's really interested in the role of the Advanced Team and specifically, how do you secure an area like that. I think it's it's fairly understandable when presidents go into arenas on a regular basis and stadiums on a regular basis, and all the places that they go, say within DC or major metropolitan areas that have been secured numerous times, and then your go to a field right in Pennsylvania, what is the role of the Advanced Team and being able to secure that area as much as you can share for listeners.

Yeah no, And I think with the political grandstanding that happens in every one of these hearings, we lose attention to detail and we lose a lot of the facts because it turns into yelling about this, yelling about that. Tim Rebelly served United States Secret Surface for over two decades. He's our guest. One of the questions we had from from Shannon was he's really interested in the role of the Advanced Team and specifically, how do you secure an area like that. I think it's it's fairly understandable when presidents go into arenas on a regular basis and stadiums on a regular basis, and all the places that they go, say within DC or major metropolitan areas that have been secured numerous times, and then your go to a field right in Pennsylvania, what is the role of the Advanced Team and being able to secure that area as much as you can share for listeners.

Yeah, so one thing I talked about about a week ago, you know, not not giving up too much thing things operational security wise, because you know there's still agents out there doing, uh, performing.

Yeah, so one thing I talked about about a week ago, you know, not not giving up too much thing things operational security wise, because you know there's still agents out there doing, uh, performing.

The mission, protecting people. But the answer the question, it's actually, you know, we've been all over the world.

The mission, protecting people. But the answer the question, it's actually, you know, we've been all over the world.

I've done thousands of advances on six continents, you know, seventy plus countries, war zones, the whole nine yards.

I've done thousands of advances on six continents, you know, seventy plus countries, war zones, the whole nine yards.

And it's not rocket science. You start out, you find out what the logistics are or or the plan of your.

And it's not rocket science. You start out, you find out what the logistics are or or the plan of your.

Protectee is from where where's that individual going to arrive, where they're going to walk on stage, and then then you develop your plan, uh with layers of security.