One of the most common questions Glenn is asked is simple:

“Are you leading my trek?”

In this episode, Glenn explains why he doesn’t lead every Kokoda trek anymore — and why that should give you confidence, not concern.

Adventure Professionals is no longer built around one person. It’s built around exceptional leaders, high standards, and a deep respect for the land, culture, people, and history of Papua New Guinea.

This episode is a behind-the-scenes look at:


How Adventure Professionals selects and trains its trek leaders


Why leadership, humility, and decision-making matter more than ego


The two-year Adventure Leaders Mentorship and the standards expected


How safety, culture, military history, and trekker experience are prioritised


Why Kokoda doesn’t forgive ego — and neither do we

Glenn also introduces the incredible leaders who carry the Adventure Professionals name on the track — people he trusts completely with his reputation, his team, and your experience.

Meet the Leaders


Mick Lay – Former soldier of 30+ years, leadership expert, and current instructor at the Royal Military College Duntroon


Heidi Rumsby – A mum of three with a deep love for adventure, PNG, military history, and personal growth


Bryan Waller – A dad of two passionate about physical and mental health and adventure as a mindset-building tool


Caine – A dad of four focused on youth development, personal growth, and positive mental health through adventure


Sami Dunk – The OG. A respected, passionate leader who brings joy, resilience, and perspective to every trek


Mili Saul – PNG-born, raised in Milne Bay, and a vital cultural bridge ensuring respect for the land, people, and PNG team

Why This Matters

Whether you’re already booked or considering your first Kokoda trek, this episode is designed to reassure you that:


You are led by people who care deeply


Your safety and experience come first


The culture, communities, and history of PNG are respected


You are supported by a team — not just a name

Key Takeaway

You’re not booking a single leader.

You’re stepping into a team, built on trust, training, accountability, and shared values.

And that’s exactly how it should be.

This podcast is proudly brought to you by ADVENTURE PROFESSIONALS

One of the most common questions Glenn is asked is simple:
&ldquo;Are you leading my trek?&rdquo;
In this episode, Glenn explains why he doesn&rsquo;t lead every Kokoda trek anymore &mdash; and why that should give you confidence, not concern.
Adventure Professionals is no longer built around one person. It&rsquo;s built around exceptional leaders, high standards, and a deep respect for the land, culture, people, and history of Papua New Guinea.
This episode is a behind-the-scenes look at:
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How Adventure Professionals selects and trains its trek leaders
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Why leadership, humility, and decision-making matter more than ego
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The two-year Adventure Leaders Mentorship and the standards expected
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How safety, culture, military history, and trekker experience are prioritised
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Why Kokoda doesn&rsquo;t forgive ego &mdash; and neither do we
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Glenn also introduces the incredible leaders who carry the Adventure Professionals name on the track &mdash; people he trusts completely with his reputation, his team, and your experience.
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Meet the Leaders
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Mick Lay &ndash; Former soldier of 30+ years, leadership expert, and current instructor at the Royal Military College Duntroon
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Heidi Rumsby &ndash; A mum of three with a deep love for adventure, PNG, military history, and personal growth
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Bryan Waller &ndash; A dad of two passionate about physical and mental health and adventure as a mindset-building tool
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Caine &ndash; A dad of four focused on youth development, personal growth, and positive mental health through adventure
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Sami Dunk &ndash; The OG. A respected, passionate leader who brings joy, resilience, and perspective to every trek
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Mili Saul &ndash; PNG-born, raised in Milne Bay, and a vital cultural bridge ensuring respect for the land, people, and PNG team
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Why This Matters
Whether you&rsquo;re already booked or considering your first Kokoda trek, this episode is designed to reassure you that:
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You are led by people who care deeply
</li>
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Your safety and experience come first
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The culture, communities, and history of PNG are respected
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You are supported by a team &mdash; not just a name
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</ul>
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Key Takeaway
You&rsquo;re not booking a single leader.
You&rsquo;re stepping into a team, built on trust, training, accountability, and shared values.
And that&rsquo;s exactly how it should be.
This podcast is proudly brought to you by <a href="https://www.adventureprofessionals.com.au/">ADVENTURE PROFESSIONALS</a>

An insight into the lessons learnt from people that have trekked the Kokoda Track in PNG. We will interview trek leaders, local PNG villagers and trekkers who have undertaken the arduous 96km jungle trek.

Kokoda Track

You're in great hands - My Trek Leaders

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