KNBR host Adam Copeland talks breaking into radio, building shows with Murph & Mac, co‑hosting with Tom Tolbert, and crafting Dirty Work with Derek Papa. He reflects on the emotional Tolbert farewell show, his whirlwind stint as Program Director and how perspective reshaped his work and life.

The Off Air podcast is hosted by the KNBR Digital Team — Michael Connell, Austin Scott, and Jack Loder.