Introduction and Background

Rachel's Journey into New Age Deception

The Center of Worship: Self vs. God

The Importance of Discernment

Trusting God as Provider

Living in Compromise: A Personal Reflection

The Danger of Lukewarm Christianity

The Power of Re-Baptism and Commitment

 Raising Children in Faith

Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Episode Summary

In this revealing episode of Kingdom Talk, Malaine Lea Butler and guest Rachel Nelson dive into Rachel’s powerful story — from a childhood in Christianity, to slipping into New Age deception, and back into full surrender to Jesus.

Rachel pulls back the veil on the seductive pull of “self-help” spirituality and exposes how easily believers can fall into the trap of centering self instead of God. She speaks candidly about lukewarm faith, spiritual compromise, and how re-baptism became her public declaration of full allegiance to Christ.

This is a must-listen for anyone who’s questioned their salvation, flirted with “just a little New Age,” or felt the tug to return to Jesus but didn’t know where to begin. Whether you're raising kids in faith, coming out of deception, or learning to trust God again — this episode will stir you to discern, repent, and return.

"I was living in compromise one foot in New Age, one foot in for Jesus and I now realize how dangerous that is." - Rachel Nelson

Keywords

faith, New Age, deception, discernment, self-reliance, baptism, parenting, lukewarm Christianity, spiritual journey, trust in God, Kingdom obedience

Takeaways
Knowing God isn’t the same as walking with Him daily.


New Age teachings often disguise self-worship as spirituality.


Discernment is your survival skill in a deceived world.


God must be your Provider, not the fallback plan.


Lukewarm Christianity leaves your eternity in question.


Baptism is more than a ritual — it’s a declaration of spiritual war.


Raising children in faith starts with living it out yourself.


God welcomes your questions — but He also calls for obedience.


Scripture is your anchor — not vibes, signs, or “energy.”


The Kingdom isn’t a theory — it’s your mission field.



Sound Bites
"You can’t take any of it to heaven."


"Your eternity is not secure."


"You can go to Him with any questions."


"Self-help was still self at the center."


"God doesn’t share the throne with anyone."


"Discernment is armor in this age."


"Re-baptism was my line in the sand."


"God is a good Father and He’s still providing."



Bible Verse

Revelation 3:16 (ESV)
“So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.”

Call to Action

If you've been playing in both worlds it’s time to choose.
Jesus didn’t die for you to stay confused, lukewarm, or compromised.
He’s calling you back to the fire.

Ready to walk in truth, clarity, and full surrender?



⏱️ Timestamps

00:52 – Introduction and Background
02:58 – Rachel's Journey into New Age Deception
07:51 – The Center of Worship: Self vs. God
11:42 – The Importance of Discernment
15:36 – Trusting God as Provider
19:27 – Living in Compromise: A Personal Reflection
23:32 – The Danger of Lukewarm Christianity
27:59 – The Power of Re-Baptism and Commitment
31:23 – Raising Children in Faith
34:21 – Final Thoughts and Encouragement

 

About Rachel:

Rachel Nelson is a faith-fueled encourager, podcast host, and coach for discouraged entrepreneurs who’ve lost their confidence and are ready to rise again. With a bold mix of truth, energy, and biblical wisdom, she helps women move from shame to strategy, from burnout to boldness, and from confusion to clarity.

Rachel is also the host of the This Is Me Attitude podcast, a Christian faith-based show launched in June 2021. With over 140 episodes and a 5.0-star listener rating, Rachel uses her voice to inspire and challenge women to grow in their relationship with the Holy Trinity, live authentically, and reclaim their God-given confidence. Her show is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other major platforms.

A former D3 collegiate athlete and journalism graduate, Rachel combines her dedication, media savvy, and spiritual depth to walk alongside women who love the idea of entrepreneurship but feel stuck, weary, and disillusioned. Through her journey—from performance-driven burnout to Spirit-led breakthrough—she now guides Christian entrepreneurs to rebuild their confidence, prioritize what matters, and finally take God- aligned action. 





Rachel’s Email - thisismecommunity@gmail.com

Rachel’s Calendar - https://calendly.com/thisismecommunity

This Is Me Attitude Podcast - https://pod.link/1573934019

Join Her Email List - https://forms.aweber.com/form/73/1426725673.htm

Rachel’s Testimony On Her Show - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-is-me-attitude/id1573934019?i=1000682301560



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Episode Summary
In this revealing episode of Kingdom Talk, Malaine Lea Butler and guest Rachel Nelson dive into Rachel&rsquo;s powerful story &mdash; from a childhood in Christianity, to slipping into New Age deception, and back into full surrender to Jesus.
Rachel pulls back the veil on the seductive pull of &ldquo;self-help&rdquo; spirituality and exposes how easily believers can fall into the trap of centering self instead of God. She speaks candidly about lukewarm faith, spiritual compromise, and how re-baptism became her public declaration of full allegiance to Christ.
This is a must-listen for anyone who&rsquo;s questioned their salvation, flirted with &ldquo;just a little New Age,&rdquo; or felt the tug to return to Jesus but didn&rsquo;t know where to begin. Whether you're raising kids in faith, coming out of deception, or learning to trust God again &mdash; this episode will stir you to discern, repent, and return.
"I was living in compromise one foot in New Age, one foot in for Jesus and I now realize how dangerous that is." - Rachel Nelson
Keywords
faith, New Age, deception, discernment, self-reliance, baptism, parenting, lukewarm Christianity, spiritual journey, trust in God, Kingdom obedience
Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Knowing God isn&rsquo;t the same as walking with Him daily. </li>
<li aria-level="1">New Age teachings often disguise self-worship as spirituality. </li>
<li aria-level="1">Discernment is your survival skill in a deceived world. </li>
<li aria-level="1">God must be your Provider, not the fallback plan. </li>
<li aria-level="1">Lukewarm Christianity leaves your eternity in question. </li>
<li aria-level="1">Baptism is more than a ritual &mdash; it&rsquo;s a declaration of spiritual war. </li>
<li aria-level="1">Raising children in faith starts with living it out yourself. </li>
<li aria-level="1">God welcomes your questions &mdash; but He also calls for obedience. </li>
<li aria-level="1">Scripture is your anchor &mdash; not vibes, signs, or &ldquo;energy.&rdquo; </li>
<li aria-level="1">The Kingdom isn&rsquo;t a theory &mdash; it&rsquo;s your mission field. </li>
</ul>
Sound Bites
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">"You can&rsquo;t take any of it to heaven." </li>
<li aria-level="1">"Your eternity is not secure." </li>
<li aria-level="1">"You can go to Him with any questions." </li>
<li aria-level="1">"Self-help was still self at the center." </li>
<li aria-level="1">"God doesn&rsquo;t share the throne with anyone." </li>
<li aria-level="1">"Discernment is armor in this age." </li>
<li aria-level="1">"Re-baptism was my line in the sand." </li>
<li aria-level="1">"God is a good Father and He&rsquo;s still providing." </li>
</ul>
Bible Verse
Revelation 3:16 (ESV) &ldquo;So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.&rdquo;
Call to Action
If you've been playing in both worlds it&rsquo;s time to choose. Jesus didn&rsquo;t die for you to stay confused, lukewarm, or compromised. He&rsquo;s calling you back to the fire.
Ready to walk in truth, clarity, and full surrender? 
⏱️ Timestamps
00:52 &ndash; Introduction and Background 02:58 &ndash; Rachel's Journey into New Age Deception 07:51 &ndash; The Center of Worship: Self vs. God 11:42 &ndash; The Importance of Discernment 15:36 &ndash; Trusting God as Provider 19:27 &ndash; Living in Compromise: A Personal Reflection 23:32 &ndash; The Danger of Lukewarm Christianity 27:59 &ndash; The Power of Re-Baptism and Commitment 31:23 &ndash; Raising Children in Faith 34:21 &ndash; Final Thoughts and Encouragement
&nbsp;
About Rachel:
Rachel Nelson is a faith-fueled encourager, podcast host, and coach for discouraged entrepreneurs who&rsquo;ve lost their confidence and are ready to rise again. With a bold mix of truth, energy, and biblical wisdom, she helps women move from shame to strategy, from burnout to boldness, and from confusion to clarity.
Rachel is also the host of the This Is Me Attitude podcast, a Christian faith-based show launched in June 2021. With over 140 episodes and a 5.0-star listener rating, Rachel uses her voice to inspire and challenge women to grow in their relationship with the Holy Trinity, live authentically, and reclaim their God-given confidence. Her show is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other major platforms.
A former D3 collegiate athlete and journalism graduate, Rachel combines her dedication, media savvy, and spiritual depth to walk alongside women who love the idea of entrepreneurship but feel stuck, weary, and disillusioned. Through her journey&mdash;from performance-driven burnout to Spirit-led breakthrough&mdash;she now guides Christian entrepreneurs to rebuild their confidence, prioritize what matters, and finally take God- aligned action.&nbsp;
 
Rachel&rsquo;s Email - <a href="mailto:thisismecommunity@gmail.com">thisismecommunity@gmail.com</a>
Rachel&rsquo;s Calendar -&nbsp;<a href="https://calendly.com/thisismecommunity">https://calendly.com/thisismecommunity</a>
This Is Me Attitude Podcast -&nbsp;<a href="https://pod.link/1573934019">https://pod.link/1573934019</a>
Join Her Email List -&nbsp;<a href="https://forms.aweber.com/form/73/1426725673.htm">https://forms.aweber.com/form/73/1426725673.htm</a>
Rachel&rsquo;s Testimony On Her Show - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-is-me-attitude/id1573934019?i=1000682301560">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-is-me-attitude/id1573934019?i=1000682301560</a>
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Kingdom Talk with Malaine


Radically transforming your view on Jesus.

Welcome to the podcast where we don’t tiptoe around truth. Kingdom Talk is where the New Age ends and the real Jesus begins. Hosted by Malaine Lea Butler — former spiritual seeker turned sold-out disciple — this show is for the ones who left the crystals, the consciousness, and the compromise to go all in for the King of Kings.

We dive deep into deliverance, spiritual warfare, the Holy Spirit, and the raw process of dying to self. No fluff. No lukewarm takes. Just bold conversations that expose the counterfeit and reveal the freedom only found in Christ.

If you're hungry for truth, healing, and the power of the Gospel that actually sets people free, you’re in the right place.


 A Bold Voice. Warrior for the Kingdom. Former New Ager. On Fire for Jesus. 

Malaine Lea Butler is a deliverance-driven disciple of Jesus Christ, passionately calling people out of deception and into Kingdom truth. Once deep in the New Age, she experienced radical transformation through the power of the Gospel — and now lives to expose darkness, equip the saints, and lift high the name of Jesus.

Through her podcast Kingdom Talk, Malaine creates a space for raw, deep, and controversial conversations that lead hearts into full surrender and freedom in Christ. She’s not here to play Church — she’s here to see captives set free, minds renewed, and lukewarm faith lit ablaze.

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 Follow Malaine on IG: @xoedenhouse and @malaine_lea_butler

Follow Malaine on Facebook: @malaineleabutler  


Learn more about Eden House: Eden House Website (www.theedenhouse.co)


  Subscribe to Kingdom Talk with Malaine

  Share this with someone walking out of the New Age...

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Kingdom Talk with Malaine
 Radically transforming your view on Jesus.
Welcome to the podcast where we don&rsquo;t tiptoe around truth. Kingdom Talk is where the New Age ends and the real Jesus begins. Hosted by Malaine Lea Butler &mdash; former spiritual seeker turned sold-out disciple &mdash; this show is for the ones who left the crystals, the consciousness, and the compromise to go all in for the King of Kings.
We dive deep into deliverance, spiritual warfare, the Holy Spirit, and the raw process of dying to self. No fluff. No lukewarm takes. Just bold conversations that expose the counterfeit and reveal the freedom only found in Christ.
If you're hungry for truth, healing, and the power of the Gospel that actually sets people free, you&rsquo;re in the right place.
 &nbsp;A Bold Voice. Warrior for the Kingdom. Former New Ager. On Fire for Jesus.&nbsp;
Malaine Lea Butler is a deliverance-driven disciple of Jesus Christ, passionately calling people out of deception and into Kingdom truth. Once deep in the New Age, she experienced radical transformation through the power of the Gospel &mdash; and now lives to expose darkness, equip the saints, and lift high the name of Jesus.
Through her podcast Kingdom Talk, Malaine creates a space for raw, deep, and controversial conversations that lead hearts into full surrender and freedom in Christ. She&rsquo;s not here to play Church &mdash; she&rsquo;s here to see captives set free, minds renewed, and lukewarm faith lit ablaze.
🔗 Connect + Share
&nbsp;Follow Malaine on IG: @xoedenhouse and @malaine_lea_butler
Follow Malaine on Facebook:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/malaineleabutler"> @malaineleabutler&nbsp; </a>
Learn more about Eden House: Eden House Website (<a href="http://www.theedenhouse.co">www.theedenhouse.co</a>)
 &nbsp; Subscribe to Kingdom Talk with Malaine
&nbsp;&nbsp;Share this with someone walking out of the New Age...
&nbsp;⭐️ Leave a review to help spread the fire of truth

Kingdom Talk Podcast with Malaine

Kingdom Talk with Malaine
Radically transforming your view on Jesus.

Welcome to the podcast where we don’t tiptoe around truth. Kingdom Talk is where the New Age ends and the real Jesus begins. Hosted by Malaine Lea Butler — former spiritual seeker turned sold-out disciple — this show is for the ones who left the crystals, the consciousness, and the compromise to go all in for the King of Kings.

We dive deep into deliverance, spiritual warfare, the Holy Spirit, and the raw process of dying to self. No fluff. No lukewarm takes. Just bold conversations that expose the counterfeit and reveal the freedom only found in Christ.

If you're hungry for truth, healing, and the power of the Gospel that actually sets people free, you’re in the right place.



Malaine Lea Butler - 🔥 A Bold Voice. Warrior for the Kingdom. Former New Ager. On Fire for Jesus. 🔥

Malaine is a deliverance-driven disciple of Jesus Christ, passionately calling people out of deception and into Kingdom truth. Once deep in the New Age, she experienced radical transformation through the power of the Gospel — and now lives to expose darkness, equip the saints, and lift high the name of Jesus.

Through this podcast, Malaine creates a space for raw, deep, and controversial conversations that lead hearts into full surrender and freedom in Christ. She’s not here to play Church — she’s here to see captives set free, minds renewed, and lukewarm faith lit ablaze.

 

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/xoedenhouse/
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Learn more about Eden House: Eden House Website (www.theedenhouse.co)



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Where the New Age ends and the real Jesus begins.

📣 Share this with someone walking out of deception — they don’t need another "healer"... they need a Deliverer.
⭐️ Leave a review so more seekers find the truth that actually sets them free.

This isn’t self-help. It’s spiritual war. Let’s spread the fire.

Kingdom Talk with Malaine Radically transforming your view on Jesus.
Welcome to the podcast where we don&rsquo;t tiptoe around truth. Kingdom Talk is where the New Age ends and the real Jesus begins. Hosted by Malaine Lea Butler &mdash; former spiritual seeker turned sold-out disciple &mdash; this show is for the ones who left the crystals, the consciousness, and the compromise to go all in for the King of Kings.
We dive deep into deliverance, spiritual warfare, the Holy Spirit, and the raw process of dying to self. No fluff. No lukewarm takes. Just bold conversations that expose the counterfeit and reveal the freedom only found in Christ.
If you're hungry for truth, healing, and the power of the Gospel that actually sets people free, you&rsquo;re in the right place. 
Malaine Lea Butler - 🔥 A Bold Voice. Warrior for the Kingdom. Former New Ager. On Fire for Jesus. 🔥
Malaine is a deliverance-driven disciple of Jesus Christ, passionately calling people out of deception and into Kingdom truth. Once deep in the New Age, she experienced radical transformation through the power of the Gospel &mdash; and now lives to expose darkness, equip the saints, and lift high the name of Jesus.
Through this podcast, Malaine creates a space for raw, deep, and controversial conversations that lead hearts into full surrender and freedom in Christ. She&rsquo;s not here to play Church &mdash; she&rsquo;s here to see captives set free, minds renewed, and lukewarm faith lit ablaze.
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 Learn more about Eden House: Eden House Website (<a href="http://www.theedenhouse.co">www.theedenhouse.co</a>) 
🔥 Subscribe to Kingdom Talk with Malaine Where the New Age ends and the real Jesus begins.
📣 Share this with someone walking out of deception &mdash; they don&rsquo;t need another "healer"... they need a Deliverer. ⭐️ Leave a review so more seekers find the truth that actually sets them free.
This isn&rsquo;t self-help. It&rsquo;s spiritual war. Let&rsquo;s spread the fire.