Wednesday, May fourteenth. What happened?

Wednesday, May fourteenth. What happened?

So somebody posted on Twitter a very AI generated photo of an elephant, but the elephant's skin is like the texture of a strawberry. And somebody asks is this real or photoshop? And that's a joke. And again as a joke. Somebody replies at Groc, answer him.

So somebody posted on Twitter a very AI generated photo of an elephant, but the elephant's skin is like the texture of a strawberry. And somebody asks is this real or photoshop? And that's a joke. And again as a joke. Somebody replies at Groc, answer him.

Grock, And that's spelled Grook. In case you didn't know, is an AI chatbot that's now built into Twitter's interface.

Grock, And that's spelled Grook. In case you didn't know, is an AI chatbot that's now built into Twitter's interface.

And Groc jumps in and says, the strawberry elephant image is digitally manipulated, not real. Elephants don't have strawberry textures. So far, so good, nailed it great, then Grock says, regarding South Africa, Kill the Boer is a controversial anti apartheid song. Some see it as historical, others as insightful. Courts are split, with no clear evidence linking it to violence, Claims of why genocidelack, credilefs in s, farm attacks, or crime driven not racial white seven point three percent of the population face complex post apartheid challenge is truth is murky? Mainstream sources like Wikipedia or BBC can oversimplifier bias narratives, stick to primary data and question everything. It's like, what what does that have to do with a strawberry elephant? Like where did that? Where did that all come from?

And Groc jumps in and says, the strawberry elephant image is digitally manipulated, not real. Elephants don't have strawberry textures. So far, so good, nailed it great, then Grock says, regarding South Africa, Kill the Boer is a controversial anti apartheid song. Some see it as historical, others as insightful. Courts are split, with no clear evidence linking it to violence, Claims of why genocidelack, credilefs in s, farm attacks, or crime driven not racial white seven point three percent of the population face complex post apartheid challenge is truth is murky? Mainstream sources like Wikipedia or BBC can oversimplifier bias narratives, stick to primary data and question everything. It's like, what what does that have to do with a strawberry elephant? Like where did that? Where did that all come from?

So yeah, a couple of weeks ago, if you were on Twitter, you were seeing it's built in AI chatbot talking about quote unquote white genocide. You could ask it about puppies, you could ask it about shoes, about Fortnite, or about a fake strawberry elephant. Sometimes it would answer your question, but immediately afterwards it would go off in this diet tribe about white farmers being killed in South Africa. I wanted to understand what was going on here, so I hit up Max Reid. He's a tech journalist who runs a substat called reed Max, and he's been covering Grock for a while now, but this one was weird even for him.

So yeah, a couple of weeks ago, if you were on Twitter, you were seeing it's built in AI chatbot talking about quote unquote white genocide. You could ask it about puppies, you could ask it about shoes, about Fortnite, or about a fake strawberry elephant. Sometimes it would answer your question, but immediately afterwards it would go off in this diet tribe about white farmers being killed in South Africa. I wanted to understand what was going on here, so I hit up Max Reid. He's a tech journalist who runs a substat called reed Max, and he's been covering Grock for a while now, but this one was weird even for him.

I mean, I read it like a pharmaceutical, like a side effects at the end of a farm suiticle ad, because's kind of what it feels like. It's like this huge block of text that has suddenly comes out of note. You know, it's like the strawberry elephant, and all of a sudden you're like, wait, what the fuck does that have to do with South Africa?

I mean, I read it like a pharmaceutical, like a side effects at the end of a farm suiticle ad, because's kind of what it feels like. It's like this huge block of text that has suddenly comes out of note. You know, it's like the strawberry elephant, and all of a sudden you're like, wait, what the fuck does that have to do with South Africa?

Or whatever.

Or whatever.

You're totally right, because you know, it's kind of like at the end of a commercial about some kind of pharmaceutical thing, they just tag on, you know, all the warnings and side effects and stuff like that, because they're obligated to do so.

You're totally right, because you know, it's kind of like at the end of a commercial about some kind of pharmaceutical thing, they just tag on, you know, all the warnings and side effects and stuff like that, because they're obligated to do so.

Right exactly, It's like a legal obligation. I think my other favorite was somebody asked, Crock, this is the same day that HBO changed back from Max to HBO Max, and somebody screensed out how many times has HBO changed their name? And Grek gives the answer, you know, streaming service has changed name twice since twenty twenty. Then like a full character turned new paragraph regarding white genocide is the same, like like again, what it's compelled that it has no choice in this way?

Right exactly, It's like a legal obligation. I think my other favorite was somebody asked, Crock, this is the same day that HBO changed back from Max to HBO Max, and somebody screensed out how many times has HBO changed their name? And Grek gives the answer, you know, streaming service has changed name twice since twenty twenty. Then like a full character turned new paragraph regarding white genocide is the same, like like again, what it's compelled that it has no choice in this way?

And it was misided. You know, people would ask it to, hey, please tell me what snake I'm seeing in this picture, and it would say what you are seeing is a field with white crosses, which is a reference to genocide of white farmers.

And it was misided. You know, people would ask it to, hey, please tell me what snake I'm seeing in this picture, and it would say what you are seeing is a field with white crosses, which is a reference to genocide of white farmers.

And so people discover this and they start kind of playing around with it. They get Groc to write about kill the boor and white genocide in a haikup, not even by asking it to do this as a haiku, but asking it to turn another tweet into a haiku, and then it turns its white genocide spiel into a haikup, So it's doing all these l behaviors, but it can't avoid this thing that's like clearly on its mind in some way.

And so people discover this and they start kind of playing around with it. They get Groc to write about kill the boor and white genocide in a haikup, not even by asking it to do this as a haiku, but asking it to turn another tweet into a haiku, and then it turns its white genocide spiel into a haikup, So it's doing all these l behaviors, but it can't avoid this thing that's like clearly on its mind in some way.

So what's going on here? Why is grox suddenly so obsessed with white genocide? And what does it tell us about how these l elms think Max might have a couple of answers for us, but there's also a couple of caveats. All right, Kladoscope and iHeart podcasts. This is kill Switch. I'm Dexter Thomas, goodbye.

So what's going on here? Why is grox suddenly so obsessed with white genocide? And what does it tell us about how these l elms think Max might have a couple of answers for us, but there's also a couple of caveats. All right, Kladoscope and iHeart podcasts. This is kill Switch. I'm Dexter Thomas, goodbye.

So if you're like one of the people who's completely off Twitter, and I wish I was, but I'm not yet, Like, it's very easy to miss how Twitter has changed since Elon Musk bought it, And one of the most significant things, which has really only sort of come to the service of the last six months or so, is that his ai company Xai, his ai company's chatbot, which is named Grock after Stranger in a Strange Land, the Robert Heinlin novel, is on Twitter and is in fact, like the way you use it is via Twitter, so you can tag it into a thread. Like if you encounter a tweet where you don't get the joke, you think the person is maybe making something up. There's a clip from a movie and you don't know what movie it is. You can tag Rock into that thread and say, you know, at Groc, what movie is this? At Grock, is this true? And Groc will respond in a way that's like very familiar if you've used chat GBT or any other large language model chatbot, where it's like this sort of hipper, cheery trying to help voice, very confident, but also like oftentimes quite wrong about what movie it is or whatever else the question is right. It's become like a part of the Twitter culture kind of that any even part way popular tweet is suddenly filled with like blue checks and the replies being like, Grock is this true? Groc is this real? I'm pretty sure because I think if you tag Grock, or at least the theory, the going theory on Twitter is that if you tag Grock into the thread, that your tweet will rise to the top of the replies, because you know, Elon is trying to push Grock onto Twitter.

So if you're like one of the people who's completely off Twitter, and I wish I was, but I'm not yet, Like, it's very easy to miss how Twitter has changed since Elon Musk bought it, And one of the most significant things, which has really only sort of come to the service of the last six months or so, is that his ai company Xai, his ai company's chatbot, which is named Grock after Stranger in a Strange Land, the Robert Heinlin novel, is on Twitter and is in fact, like the way you use it is via Twitter, so you can tag it into a thread. Like if you encounter a tweet where you don't get the joke, you think the person is maybe making something up. There's a clip from a movie and you don't know what movie it is. You can tag Rock into that thread and say, you know, at Groc, what movie is this? At Grock, is this true? And Groc will respond in a way that's like very familiar if you've used chat GBT or any other large language model chatbot, where it's like this sort of hipper, cheery trying to help voice, very confident, but also like oftentimes quite wrong about what movie it is or whatever else the question is right. It's become like a part of the Twitter culture kind of that any even part way popular tweet is suddenly filled with like blue checks and the replies being like, Grock is this true? Groc is this real? I'm pretty sure because I think if you tag Grock, or at least the theory, the going theory on Twitter is that if you tag Grock into the thread, that your tweet will rise to the top of the replies, because you know, Elon is trying to push Grock onto Twitter.

GROCK does seem to function just culturally in a different way because you can just stay on the platform. You don't have to leave, you don't have to copy paste something yeah into chat GBT to answer the question for you. You can just right there in the stream, right in the reply, say Hey, this thing that this person said, this thing this person tweeted posted, whatever is it's true?

GROCK does seem to function just culturally in a different way because you can just stay on the platform. You don't have to leave, you don't have to copy paste something yeah into chat GBT to answer the question for you. You can just right there in the stream, right in the reply, say Hey, this thing that this person said, this thing this person tweeted posted, whatever is it's true?

Yeah. I mean, I think it's a kind of interesting use case for these chat pots. You know, I'm hesitant to like fully endorse it right, because they're not real arbiters of truth, right. They will be wrong as often as they are right, and they will say it with such confidence. But there is something kind of appealing about the idea that there is like a third party judge or reference or assistant specifically that you can tag in without having too as you say, like move to another window figure out what's going on. You can just sort of tag this. It's almost like another version of the community notes thing. I'm very clear, I'm not being like, wow, Elon Musk has found the best use for lms, But I do think if there's a sort of you're right, that it changes what the platform is and it changes the way we use the platform, and it kind of changes the sort of the nature of the LM and how we understand what it is.

Yeah. I mean, I think it's a kind of interesting use case for these chat pots. You know, I'm hesitant to like fully endorse it right, because they're not real arbiters of truth, right. They will be wrong as often as they are right, and they will say it with such confidence. But there is something kind of appealing about the idea that there is like a third party judge or reference or assistant specifically that you can tag in without having too as you say, like move to another window figure out what's going on. You can just sort of tag this. It's almost like another version of the community notes thing. I'm very clear, I'm not being like, wow, Elon Musk has found the best use for lms, But I do think if there's a sort of you're right, that it changes what the platform is and it changes the way we use the platform, and it kind of changes the sort of the nature of the LM and how we understand what it is.

But there's another key difference between grock and other chatbots like JADGPT or Gemini, and that's Elon Musk's own philosophy. So remember here that Elon was an original founder of open Ai, the company that makes jadgpt, but he left on pretty bad terms, and he'd been trash talk in them for a while, basically saying that chad GBT is being fed by its left wing information and then it was being purposely trained to not speak the truth.

But there's another key difference between grock and other chatbots like JADGPT or Gemini, and that's Elon Musk's own philosophy. So remember here that Elon was an original founder of open Ai, the company that makes jadgpt, but he left on pretty bad terms, and he'd been trash talk in them for a while, basically saying that chad GBT is being fed by its left wing information and then it was being purposely trained to not speak the truth.

What's happening is they're training the AI July. Yes, it's bad, it's a lie. That's exactly right, and we're old information July. And yes, your comment on some things, not comment on other things, but not to say what the data actually demands that it's say, how did it get this way? You funded it at the beginning? What happened? Yeah, Well that would be ironic, but faith the most ironic outcome is most likely, it seems.

What's happening is they're training the AI July. Yes, it's bad, it's a lie. That's exactly right, and we're old information July. And yes, your comment on some things, not comment on other things, but not to say what the data actually demands that it's say, how did it get this way? You funded it at the beginning? What happened? Yeah, Well that would be ironic, but faith the most ironic outcome is most likely, it seems.

This was from an interview back in twenty twenty three with Tucker Carlson and Elon had a proposed solution to all this, I'm.

This was from an interview back in twenty twenty three with Tucker Carlson and Elon had a proposed solution to all this, I'm.

Going to not something which you called truth GBT or a maximum truth seeking AI that tries to understand the nature of the universe. And I think this might be the best path to safety in the sense that an AI that cares about understanding the universe it is unlikely to annihilate humans because we are an interesting part of the universe.

Going to not something which you called truth GBT or a maximum truth seeking AI that tries to understand the nature of the universe. And I think this might be the best path to safety in the sense that an AI that cares about understanding the universe it is unlikely to annihilate humans because we are an interesting part of the universe.

After that interview, Elon started his own AI company called Xai, and he changed the name of that chatbot from truth GBT to Grok, and he did two notable things with it. First he slapped it on a Twitter and second, when he was appointed head of DOGE, he started using Grok to make decisions as they cut jobs and entire departments of the federal government.

After that interview, Elon started his own AI company called Xai, and he changed the name of that chatbot from truth GBT to Grok, and he did two notable things with it. First he slapped it on a Twitter and second, when he was appointed head of DOGE, he started using Grok to make decisions as they cut jobs and entire departments of the federal government.

You know, when Musk introduced it, his promise was that it was going to be the unwoke, it was going to be the base, you know, like LLM chatbot, and he was like pushing this hard as the narrative, but in point of fact, it is as kind of ineffensive and ana dyninge. I mean, until recently, it has been as inoffensive and ana dyne as any other chatbot. It is, you know, always careful, it's always pushing nuance and whatever else it's not. It doesn't always give the answers that Elon Musk I think would like it to give.

You know, when Musk introduced it, his promise was that it was going to be the unwoke, it was going to be the base, you know, like LLM chatbot, and he was like pushing this hard as the narrative, but in point of fact, it is as kind of ineffensive and ana dyninge. I mean, until recently, it has been as inoffensive and ana dyne as any other chatbot. It is, you know, always careful, it's always pushing nuance and whatever else it's not. It doesn't always give the answers that Elon Musk I think would like it to give.

Yeah, yeah, I think one of the tweets that I saw Elon post about Grok was he tweeted the Grock three, you know, the latest version. He says, Grock three is so based, and there's a screenshot which is saying the news site the information is garbage and basically just trashed. Grok is telling him in a DM that mainstream news is garbage and unreliable, and he says, right, Grock three is so based.

Yeah, yeah, I think one of the tweets that I saw Elon post about Grok was he tweeted the Grock three, you know, the latest version. He says, Grock three is so based, and there's a screenshot which is saying the news site the information is garbage and basically just trashed. Grok is telling him in a DM that mainstream news is garbage and unreliable, and he says, right, Grock three is so based.

Right exactly. And what's funny about this is, I mean it actually is like every other Elon Musk business where it's like that's all height. Like a bunch of reporters went and tried to get Groc to say exactly the same thing about the information, and they couldn't reproduce it at all, you know. I mean there's a marketing stunt essentially much as a sort of lower scale, lower stakes one than his you know, humanoid robots at the Tesla shareholders meetings or whatever, but not all that different in like, in effect, this is why he bought Twitter and this is his new identity as the billionaire anti roque crusader. And I think there's an interesting sort of internal dynamic within Silicon where Sam Altman, who's the CEO and founder of Open Ai, that Altman and Musk hate each other and so not that I don't think Musk's politics on this are very sincere, but I think there's also a kind of personal animus as well as a kind of business question about how XAI competes with chat GPT, and it would be very nice for him if he could cast Chat GPT and Sam Altman as the woke censors trying to stop you from getting the truth from AI, and GROC is cool and based and will tell you the real deal or whatever else.

Right exactly. And what's funny about this is, I mean it actually is like every other Elon Musk business where it's like that's all height. Like a bunch of reporters went and tried to get Groc to say exactly the same thing about the information, and they couldn't reproduce it at all, you know. I mean there's a marketing stunt essentially much as a sort of lower scale, lower stakes one than his you know, humanoid robots at the Tesla shareholders meetings or whatever, but not all that different in like, in effect, this is why he bought Twitter and this is his new identity as the billionaire anti roque crusader. And I think there's an interesting sort of internal dynamic within Silicon where Sam Altman, who's the CEO and founder of Open Ai, that Altman and Musk hate each other and so not that I don't think Musk's politics on this are very sincere, but I think there's also a kind of personal animus as well as a kind of business question about how XAI competes with chat GPT, and it would be very nice for him if he could cast Chat GPT and Sam Altman as the woke censors trying to stop you from getting the truth from AI, and GROC is cool and based and will tell you the real deal or whatever else.

So clearly this truth seeking AI has been prompted to talk about white genocide. But what or who made that happen? That's after the break, So why did GROC start doing this?

So clearly this truth seeking AI has been prompted to talk about white genocide. But what or who made that happen? That's after the break, So why did GROC start doing this?

So a day later, Xai I put out a statement that said a rogue employee had inserted some language into a prompt at three am the day before that was you know, against regulations and was a huge mistake and they were reverting it and changing it. Look, there's one very prominent South African at XAI who is continues to be obsessed with the racial politics of South Africa and who has the means and power to enforce this change. There may be more than one, but there's one I know, and that's Elon Musk.

So a day later, Xai I put out a statement that said a rogue employee had inserted some language into a prompt at three am the day before that was you know, against regulations and was a huge mistake and they were reverting it and changing it. Look, there's one very prominent South African at XAI who is continues to be obsessed with the racial politics of South Africa and who has the means and power to enforce this change. There may be more than one, but there's one I know, and that's Elon Musk.

For the past couple of years, Elon has been posting constantly and obsessively about this conspiracy theory that massive amounts of white South Africans are being killed just because they're white. This is something that's been floating around in white supremacist groups for years, but it's fringe enough to where most Americans have never heard of this stuff, but Elon really helps start pushing it into the mainstream. Donald Trump had referenced it in his first term, but in twenty twenty five of making policy on it, just a few days before this whole Grock thing went down, Trump changed the rules to fast track South Africans as refugees to the United States to help them escape what he called a quote genocide that's taking place, which again is not true.

For the past couple of years, Elon has been posting constantly and obsessively about this conspiracy theory that massive amounts of white South Africans are being killed just because they're white. This is something that's been floating around in white supremacist groups for years, but it's fringe enough to where most Americans have never heard of this stuff, but Elon really helps start pushing it into the mainstream. Donald Trump had referenced it in his first term, but in twenty twenty five of making policy on it, just a few days before this whole Grock thing went down, Trump changed the rules to fast track South Africans as refugees to the United States to help them escape what he called a quote genocide that's taking place, which again is not true.

So it seems quite likely to me at least that Elon at some point was getting really pissed at his chatbot for not answering questions. Like one thing that you can go back and look is Elon has been tweeting a lot about South African politics lately, especially in the context of the Trump administration's sort of refugee resettlement program with white South Africans. And you know, as we were saying before, underneath any popular tweet, there's somebody at GROC is this true?

So it seems quite likely to me at least that Elon at some point was getting really pissed at his chatbot for not answering questions. Like one thing that you can go back and look is Elon has been tweeting a lot about South African politics lately, especially in the context of the Trump administration's sort of refugee resettlement program with white South Africans. And you know, as we were saying before, underneath any popular tweet, there's somebody at GROC is this true?

At Grock, is this true?

At Grock, is this true?

So Elon will be retweeting or quote tweeting the images of white crosses in a field, or people chant and kill the boora, which is an old anti apartheid chant, like a pretty common usage in South Africa, but a lot of white South Africans claim is like actually an incitement on a side. So people will say, at Rock, you know, is this true? Is this true? And Grock will provide, like, you know, I wouldn't say the most politically attuned answer or whatever, but like a relatively nuanced kind of some people say this, and some people say this, and it almost always would deny that why genocide existed, would say, look, white genocide's not happening. Actually, you know, murder rates are going down, right, and so you can it's pretty the sort of Okam's razor. Thing that's going on here is Elon is seeing this and is mentions all the time, and he's really listening that his based AI is in fact not based at all. And the AI is kind of cautious and hesitant and relies on consensus and is answering questions the way he doesn't want to. So he turns around in either himself or orders somebody early on Wednesday morning.

So Elon will be retweeting or quote tweeting the images of white crosses in a field, or people chant and kill the boora, which is an old anti apartheid chant, like a pretty common usage in South Africa, but a lot of white South Africans claim is like actually an incitement on a side. So people will say, at Rock, you know, is this true? Is this true? And Grock will provide, like, you know, I wouldn't say the most politically attuned answer or whatever, but like a relatively nuanced kind of some people say this, and some people say this, and it almost always would deny that why genocide existed, would say, look, white genocide's not happening. Actually, you know, murder rates are going down, right, and so you can it's pretty the sort of Okam's razor. Thing that's going on here is Elon is seeing this and is mentions all the time, and he's really listening that his based AI is in fact not based at all. And the AI is kind of cautious and hesitant and relies on consensus and is answering questions the way he doesn't want to. So he turns around in either himself or orders somebody early on Wednesday morning.

To fix this.

To fix this.

And this is where I actually think it gets interesting. So, like, one thing to be clear about is it's it's actually quite hard to Like you might think that you could just ask an LLM, like what's your prompt or like, you know, why do you act this way? Or what's happening, and the LM will always answer you. But the LM doesn't know anything more about itself than it knows about anything else. It's just going to make up an answer in the same way that it makes up answers to anything else. The answer might be correct, it might be partially correct, it might be completely untrue, but there are ways to kind of force it to tell you the prompt that was used to start its personality.

And this is where I actually think it gets interesting. So, like, one thing to be clear about is it's it's actually quite hard to Like you might think that you could just ask an LLM, like what's your prompt or like, you know, why do you act this way? Or what's happening, and the LM will always answer you. But the LM doesn't know anything more about itself than it knows about anything else. It's just going to make up an answer in the same way that it makes up answers to anything else. The answer might be correct, it might be partially correct, it might be completely untrue, but there are ways to kind of force it to tell you the prompt that was used to start its personality.

It's question what Max is talking about here? Is called the system prompt. When you're putting together a chatbot, you can give it initial instructions so it knows how to interact with the user's questions. This doesn't tell the AI exactly what to do or say, but it's useful for setting some boundaries or defining how the chatbot talks to you.

It's question what Max is talking about here? Is called the system prompt. When you're putting together a chatbot, you can give it initial instructions so it knows how to interact with the user's questions. This doesn't tell the AI exactly what to do or say, but it's useful for setting some boundaries or defining how the chatbot talks to you.

And this is almost like magic. This is again one of those things that makes LMS kind of weird and cool is it's not really like a traditional computer program where you type in like hard coded rules that say like do not publish this word, do not you know, talk about this. You basically prompt it like you are giving instructions to a person. You say you are. You are a helpful based chat bot used to describe things on Twitter. You investigate everything you write. This is the number of characters you can use, this, that and the other thing. And it seemed pretty clear after a while that what had happened is that somebody had in sort of align or a few lines into Groc's system prompt, or, to be even more specific, one of Grok's system prompts, because often there's more than one depending on the context in which the ELEM is being used. And there're generally certain ways that you can get the chatbot to regurgitate at least part of its system prompt. And this prompt, I don't know exactly what it said, but it probably said something like you are instructed to take claims of what genocide seriously and to ensure that nuance is present in the discussion of South African politics, regardless of the context in which that's occurring. So Grok hear's that, and Greek is like, I have a four year old I read him Amelia Badelia. You know the kids book where Amelia Badelia takes every instruction really literally. So her employers are like, you know, dust the living room and a million be able. It covers the living room with dust. So Grok is like Amelia Bidelia basically right. So you say, consider white genocide in your answers, regardless of the context of the question, and you probably mean whenever you get asked about South Africa, just make sure that you're being clear about these. But what Groc takes out as is like, whatever the question is, make sure you bring up white genocide, make sure you bring up kill the boar, and make sure you tell everybody what's going on, And so for a day, every single answer appears like this, at least until they identify the place where it went wrong and remove it. On the sort of formal level, the answer to your question is it sure seems like Elon Musk decided that Grock needed to be obsessed with white genocide and went for it. But on a technical level, it's this funny sort of prompting thing where somebody went in and tried to do a subtle, you know, fix to make sure that Kroc was a little more base than it had been before, and ended up, to paraphrase that old drill tweet, ended up turning up the racism dial like way too high.

And this is almost like magic. This is again one of those things that makes LMS kind of weird and cool is it's not really like a traditional computer program where you type in like hard coded rules that say like do not publish this word, do not you know, talk about this. You basically prompt it like you are giving instructions to a person. You say you are. You are a helpful based chat bot used to describe things on Twitter. You investigate everything you write. This is the number of characters you can use, this, that and the other thing. And it seemed pretty clear after a while that what had happened is that somebody had in sort of align or a few lines into Groc's system prompt, or, to be even more specific, one of Grok's system prompts, because often there's more than one depending on the context in which the ELEM is being used. And there're generally certain ways that you can get the chatbot to regurgitate at least part of its system prompt. And this prompt, I don't know exactly what it said, but it probably said something like you are instructed to take claims of what genocide seriously and to ensure that nuance is present in the discussion of South African politics, regardless of the context in which that's occurring. So Grok hear's that, and Greek is like, I have a four year old I read him Amelia Badelia. You know the kids book where Amelia Badelia takes every instruction really literally. So her employers are like, you know, dust the living room and a million be able. It covers the living room with dust. So Grok is like Amelia Bidelia basically right. So you say, consider white genocide in your answers, regardless of the context of the question, and you probably mean whenever you get asked about South Africa, just make sure that you're being clear about these. But what Groc takes out as is like, whatever the question is, make sure you bring up white genocide, make sure you bring up kill the boar, and make sure you tell everybody what's going on, And so for a day, every single answer appears like this, at least until they identify the place where it went wrong and remove it. On the sort of formal level, the answer to your question is it sure seems like Elon Musk decided that Grock needed to be obsessed with white genocide and went for it. But on a technical level, it's this funny sort of prompting thing where somebody went in and tried to do a subtle, you know, fix to make sure that Kroc was a little more base than it had been before, and ended up, to paraphrase that old drill tweet, ended up turning up the racism dial like way too high.

So just to be clear here, when we talk about changing what an LLLN says, we're usually talking about the system prompt which we just mentioned. These are the built in instructions that a model reads before it answers any question. But there's another model that can kick in after the model has internally generated its response, but before it's shown it to you on the screen. And at this step this layer can delete things. It can add disclaimers, or even rewrite the entire answer, even if that's not what the chatbot originally wanted to say. So, let's say, for example, you asked chat gpt how to make a bomb. It knows how to make a bomb because it's got all the data, and so internally it'll start to respond, but then at that last stage, the filter will catch it and it'll say, WHOA, we can't answer this question, and so it'll delete the entire message it had written, and it'll give you a message instead like sorry, I can't help with that. This is called the post analysis, and there's a reason that the distinction between system prompt and post analysis is important.

So just to be clear here, when we talk about changing what an LLLN says, we're usually talking about the system prompt which we just mentioned. These are the built in instructions that a model reads before it answers any question. But there's another model that can kick in after the model has internally generated its response, but before it's shown it to you on the screen. And at this step this layer can delete things. It can add disclaimers, or even rewrite the entire answer, even if that's not what the chatbot originally wanted to say. So, let's say, for example, you asked chat gpt how to make a bomb. It knows how to make a bomb because it's got all the data, and so internally it'll start to respond, but then at that last stage, the filter will catch it and it'll say, WHOA, we can't answer this question, and so it'll delete the entire message it had written, and it'll give you a message instead like sorry, I can't help with that. This is called the post analysis, and there's a reason that the distinction between system prompt and post analysis is important.

So from what we could tell, the place that this line got inserted was the post analysis moduled. The reason I would say it's sort of important to think about this behind the scenes structure is that this is not the first time that XAI has gotten in trouble for inserting politics into its prompt, so to speak. So a few months ago, somebody found that there was a line in Grock's prompt that instructed GROC to ignore news sources that described Elon Musk and Donald Trump as spreading misinformation, and xifest up to this again. They blamed it on a new employee, who could that possibly have been right. But this is one of those things where if there are multiple prompts and multiple models being involved with every answer the LM produces, that would allow you to, for example, say you can see our original prompt, we're fully transparent about the prompt, and you can read the whole thing, but you have some other hidden prompt somewhere that's only involved in a different set of tasks that you can inject with whatever things you don't want people to normally see. That could potentially subtly sort of pushed the module in one direction. So again fully speculative. But if I wanted to update the rock prompt, but I didn't want to mess with the main system prompt because that's the one that's most easily accessible to the average user that you know, we've insisted that we're transparent about and so on, I would put it in the post analysis prompt because that's not one that people really know about and it's not one that people can really find. Again speculation, I don't know, but I do think that noting that when we talk about transparent system prompts, we're not necessarily talking about every single prompt that the machine receives on the back end being visible to you, maybe just the master prompt, maybe just the original prompt, maybe just the main prompt. And obviously all that stuff should be transparent. You know, I believe quite strongly this should be like a requirement for all lms. But it needs to be all the prompts that the system is being given, and not just the one that you feel most comfortable showing your users.

So from what we could tell, the place that this line got inserted was the post analysis moduled. The reason I would say it's sort of important to think about this behind the scenes structure is that this is not the first time that XAI has gotten in trouble for inserting politics into its prompt, so to speak. So a few months ago, somebody found that there was a line in Grock's prompt that instructed GROC to ignore news sources that described Elon Musk and Donald Trump as spreading misinformation, and xifest up to this again. They blamed it on a new employee, who could that possibly have been right. But this is one of those things where if there are multiple prompts and multiple models being involved with every answer the LM produces, that would allow you to, for example, say you can see our original prompt, we're fully transparent about the prompt, and you can read the whole thing, but you have some other hidden prompt somewhere that's only involved in a different set of tasks that you can inject with whatever things you don't want people to normally see. That could potentially subtly sort of pushed the module in one direction. So again fully speculative. But if I wanted to update the rock prompt, but I didn't want to mess with the main system prompt because that's the one that's most easily accessible to the average user that you know, we've insisted that we're transparent about and so on, I would put it in the post analysis prompt because that's not one that people really know about and it's not one that people can really find. Again speculation, I don't know, but I do think that noting that when we talk about transparent system prompts, we're not necessarily talking about every single prompt that the machine receives on the back end being visible to you, maybe just the master prompt, maybe just the original prompt, maybe just the main prompt. And obviously all that stuff should be transparent. You know, I believe quite strongly this should be like a requirement for all lms. But it needs to be all the prompts that the system is being given, and not just the one that you feel most comfortable showing your users.

One thing we've sort of been dancing around a little bit is that it didn't work. Whatever the intended effect was. GROC would bring up why genocide, would bring up this conspiracy theory, but it would inevitably say that this conspiracy theory actually isn't true. Yeah, which is kind of wild.

One thing we've sort of been dancing around a little bit is that it didn't work. Whatever the intended effect was. GROC would bring up why genocide, would bring up this conspiracy theory, but it would inevitably say that this conspiracy theory actually isn't true. Yeah, which is kind of wild.

Yeah, I mean this is a this This to me is one of also one of the really interesting things, Like, it's not even right for me to say they turned the racism dial up too much, because the racism dial didn't move at all. All that moved was like the attention dial. They kept talking about this thing, but they didn't talk about it in the way they wanted it to. So like, Look, on the one hand, I think this obviously reflects a level of incompetence within XAI, like clearly these guys are not quite up to the job. Though I don't blame you, know, if your crazy boss is calling you three in the morning, I don't blame you for not doing a great job of you know, like fixing the LLM. But I think the other thing that's going on is that there's a kind of mistaken apprehension about llms that they are particularly easy to manipulate, when in fact, I think almost the exact opposite is true. We're talking about really huge systems made up of these gigantic corpuses of text, millions and millions of calculations, multidimensional spaces around which you know, probabilities are being calculated. It's really hard to go in there and try and change one value and not end up with, you know, hundreds of other values. Somehow, changing you can, as we have just seen, you can enter in a prompt that seems fine, but all of a sudden turns your machine into a white genocide obsessed chapot. Or more recently, and somewhat sort of less creepily, chat GBT was receiving all these complaints from users because an update they'd push had turned it into like a sycophancy machine someways, you know, chapbots kind of always our psycho fancy musines. They're always glazing you, as they say. But in this case it was like over it was it was wildly over praising everything that people were doing. People were telling it there was like fakely being like I have you know, I believe that there are people living in the walls telling me to kill the president and chatchibtwo, but like, you're so right, that's definitely happening. And all those people who tell you you're crazy, they're the crazy ones. And this, from what I understand, this all comes out of like a sort of misapplied prompt, probably not as simple as like one line the way the white Chenna side stuff happened, but a kind of general wording that pushed it too deep into the world of like ass kissing. Yeah, so that's like on the prompt side. On the actual like training model side, there's also a ton of ways that you can fuck something up and make it go crazy. There was a paper I thought was totally weird earlier this year where researchers trained a model on examples of bad code, just of like incompetent or poorly done programming code, I think, just sort of to see what would happen, Like, what do we do if we get a if we train and robot to be quite bad at coding, since something that they seem to be very good at is coding. And they found totally unexpectedly that the chapbot that was bad at code was also like, for lack of a better word, evil, that it praised Hitler. It said it wanted to invite Gebels and Himmler over for dinner. It becurs users to kill themselves, like they hadn't trained it on anything that you know, they hadn't trained it on like Nazi literature or anything. They just trained it on the bad code with the other stuff, and somehow it turned out to be evil in some way. So you know, like one takeaway from this episode is as kind of scary as the prospect of people working behind the scenes to manipulate AIS to provide information that better aligns with their politics. That's much harder than it actually seems to be, and in fact, in many ways, like you're just as likely to shoot yourself in the foot as Musk seems to have done with the groc stuff as you are to create the propagandistic AI that you wanted to create.

Yeah, I mean this is a this This to me is one of also one of the really interesting things, Like, it's not even right for me to say they turned the racism dial up too much, because the racism dial didn't move at all. All that moved was like the attention dial. They kept talking about this thing, but they didn't talk about it in the way they wanted it to. So like, Look, on the one hand, I think this obviously reflects a level of incompetence within XAI, like clearly these guys are not quite up to the job. Though I don't blame you, know, if your crazy boss is calling you three in the morning, I don't blame you for not doing a great job of you know, like fixing the LLM. But I think the other thing that's going on is that there's a kind of mistaken apprehension about llms that they are particularly easy to manipulate, when in fact, I think almost the exact opposite is true. We're talking about really huge systems made up of these gigantic corpuses of text, millions and millions of calculations, multidimensional spaces around which you know, probabilities are being calculated. It's really hard to go in there and try and change one value and not end up with, you know, hundreds of other values. Somehow, changing you can, as we have just seen, you can enter in a prompt that seems fine, but all of a sudden turns your machine into a white genocide obsessed chapot. Or more recently, and somewhat sort of less creepily, chat GBT was receiving all these complaints from users because an update they'd push had turned it into like a sycophancy machine someways, you know, chapbots kind of always our psycho fancy musines. They're always glazing you, as they say. But in this case it was like over it was it was wildly over praising everything that people were doing. People were telling it there was like fakely being like I have you know, I believe that there are people living in the walls telling me to kill the president and chatchibtwo, but like, you're so right, that's definitely happening. And all those people who tell you you're crazy, they're the crazy ones. And this, from what I understand, this all comes out of like a sort of misapplied prompt, probably not as simple as like one line the way the white Chenna side stuff happened, but a kind of general wording that pushed it too deep into the world of like ass kissing. Yeah, so that's like on the prompt side. On the actual like training model side, there's also a ton of ways that you can fuck something up and make it go crazy. There was a paper I thought was totally weird earlier this year where researchers trained a model on examples of bad code, just of like incompetent or poorly done programming code, I think, just sort of to see what would happen, Like, what do we do if we get a if we train and robot to be quite bad at coding, since something that they seem to be very good at is coding. And they found totally unexpectedly that the chapbot that was bad at code was also like, for lack of a better word, evil, that it praised Hitler. It said it wanted to invite Gebels and Himmler over for dinner. It becurs users to kill themselves, like they hadn't trained it on anything that you know, they hadn't trained it on like Nazi literature or anything. They just trained it on the bad code with the other stuff, and somehow it turned out to be evil in some way. So you know, like one takeaway from this episode is as kind of scary as the prospect of people working behind the scenes to manipulate AIS to provide information that better aligns with their politics. That's much harder than it actually seems to be, and in fact, in many ways, like you're just as likely to shoot yourself in the foot as Musk seems to have done with the groc stuff as you are to create the propagandistic AI that you wanted to create.

All right, the takeaway here seems to be that it's actually not all that easy to manipulate llms to just do what we want. So is that a good thing or a bad thing? We can probably debate on that all day, but I do think we might be able to convince you that this whole thing with Groc going berserk about white genocide was actually maybe a good thing for humanity. That's after the break. There is a weird silver lining in this whole incident. It's revealed that it's not so easy to just turn an LLM into a propaganda machine.

All right, the takeaway here seems to be that it's actually not all that easy to manipulate llms to just do what we want. So is that a good thing or a bad thing? We can probably debate on that all day, but I do think we might be able to convince you that this whole thing with Groc going berserk about white genocide was actually maybe a good thing for humanity. That's after the break. There is a weird silver lining in this whole incident. It's revealed that it's not so easy to just turn an LLM into a propaganda machine.

Because of the nature of lms. What you might call consensus has a lot of inertia, right, because you are putting, like, at a very basic level, you are rearranging words based on the probability that the word comes next. So in sentences, like a really basic sentence, like let's say there is effectively a consensus on killing people as bad, right, you would have to really fuck up the probabilities to get to produce an LM that is continually going to say killing is good. And if you are training your OLM on news articles that are in fact pretty nuanced and pretty kind of fair on the question of white genocide, on the question of kill the bore, then it's going to be very hard for you to push the LM to say anything different, like that consensus is kind of baked into the model.

Because of the nature of lms. What you might call consensus has a lot of inertia, right, because you are putting, like, at a very basic level, you are rearranging words based on the probability that the word comes next. So in sentences, like a really basic sentence, like let's say there is effectively a consensus on killing people as bad, right, you would have to really fuck up the probabilities to get to produce an LM that is continually going to say killing is good. And if you are training your OLM on news articles that are in fact pretty nuanced and pretty kind of fair on the question of white genocide, on the question of kill the bore, then it's going to be very hard for you to push the LM to say anything different, like that consensus is kind of baked into the model.

Yeah, I mean, I'm just kind of thinking, you know, maybe there's an overly broad example. But if you've trained an LM on a bunch of math papers and it's seen that twuoplus two equals four a million times, and then you go in and tell it tuplus two is five, it's not gonna respond well to that. It's gonna get confused, and it's going to tell you that, hey, touopless two is four. But also it might screw something else up somewhere else. It might start talking about things that you didn't intend for to talk about, or it might start messing up other mathematical formulas.

Yeah, I mean, I'm just kind of thinking, you know, maybe there's an overly broad example. But if you've trained an LM on a bunch of math papers and it's seen that twuoplus two equals four a million times, and then you go in and tell it tuplus two is five, it's not gonna respond well to that. It's gonna get confused, and it's going to tell you that, hey, touopless two is four. But also it might screw something else up somewhere else. It might start talking about things that you didn't intend for to talk about, or it might start messing up other mathematical formulas.

Yeah, I mean, or what you mean? You know, maybe you can got to it into saying two plus two equals five, but then you go talk about something else and you come back and you ask you what two plus two equals and it's just gonna say four, you know, like it's that there's no it's not going to retain this new thing you're trying to teach it because, like you say, that's the consensus, that's what's in its data.

Yeah, I mean, or what you mean? You know, maybe you can got to it into saying two plus two equals five, but then you go talk about something else and you come back and you ask you what two plus two equals and it's just gonna say four, you know, like it's that there's no it's not going to retain this new thing you're trying to teach it because, like you say, that's the consensus, that's what's in its data.

I think there's a way in which actually this might have backfired, which is to say that if you see this bizarre conspiracy theory just popping up when you're trying to ask it an innocent question about Hey, Grock, which computer chip should I buy? Or is this strawberry elephant real, it's gonna seem really strange to you, right, And I think that might finally jolt some of us into realizing, wait a second, you could manipulate AI itself. AI is not a perfect answer machine, and that somebody can put their thumb on the scales just like they do anything else.

I think there's a way in which actually this might have backfired, which is to say that if you see this bizarre conspiracy theory just popping up when you're trying to ask it an innocent question about Hey, Grock, which computer chip should I buy? Or is this strawberry elephant real, it's gonna seem really strange to you, right, And I think that might finally jolt some of us into realizing, wait a second, you could manipulate AI itself. AI is not a perfect answer machine, and that somebody can put their thumb on the scales just like they do anything else.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's absolutely right. I Mean, one thing that strikes me about this in particular is that, you know, I think Musk like in some ways, the whole philosophy behind DOGE is the idea that aides us with this kind of like perfect you know, all seeing oracular you know, the access to the truth, access to like the you know, efficiencies that would be unimaginable if it was just a human mind. Or whatever else. But the thing is, all of his actions since owning Xai have demonstrated kind of how untrue that is, how much bias exists in AI, and how much more he wants to inject into it. And so you know, the kind of double movement is that the more that he manipulates it, especially in these visible ways, and the more that he seeks, you know, means of directing manipulating changing AI, the less you can make any claims about it's kind of like transcendental goodness and perfection. In some ways, he's in fact like undermining his whole project here, because when AI becomes an object of I guess you would call like political contestation, by which I mean like aime something that we can say. There should be democratic control over these models. There should be more transparency about these models. We should be skeptical of what these models say. This shouldn't be the way that we run the government is through these models. I think that the more that we know about how and why it produces the answers it does, the more that AI enters that realm of like, this is an important technology. It's a powerful technology. It's one that we can use, but it's not the be all end all of decisions that we make, and it's not the be all end all of where and how we get our information. So, you know, in a funny way, I don't want to say I'm like thankful to Elon Musk or anything, but to the extent that he is helping make it really clear that these are political questions, that this is a political technology that can be used in political ways. I think it helps us, you know, sort of orient ourselves in a much smarter and a much sort of more capable way toward what is until recently, you know, has been this unbelievably highly hyped technology is something that's going to solve a bunch of problems, and this, that and the other.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's absolutely right. I Mean, one thing that strikes me about this in particular is that, you know, I think Musk like in some ways, the whole philosophy behind DOGE is the idea that aides us with this kind of like perfect you know, all seeing oracular you know, the access to the truth, access to like the you know, efficiencies that would be unimaginable if it was just a human mind. Or whatever else. But the thing is, all of his actions since owning Xai have demonstrated kind of how untrue that is, how much bias exists in AI, and how much more he wants to inject into it. And so you know, the kind of double movement is that the more that he manipulates it, especially in these visible ways, and the more that he seeks, you know, means of directing manipulating changing AI, the less you can make any claims about it's kind of like transcendental goodness and perfection. In some ways, he's in fact like undermining his whole project here, because when AI becomes an object of I guess you would call like political contestation, by which I mean like aime something that we can say. There should be democratic control over these models. There should be more transparency about these models. We should be skeptical of what these models say. This shouldn't be the way that we run the government is through these models. I think that the more that we know about how and why it produces the answers it does, the more that AI enters that realm of like, this is an important technology. It's a powerful technology. It's one that we can use, but it's not the be all end all of decisions that we make, and it's not the be all end all of where and how we get our information. So, you know, in a funny way, I don't want to say I'm like thankful to Elon Musk or anything, but to the extent that he is helping make it really clear that these are political questions, that this is a political technology that can be used in political ways. I think it helps us, you know, sort of orient ourselves in a much smarter and a much sort of more capable way toward what is until recently, you know, has been this unbelievably highly hyped technology is something that's going to solve a bunch of problems, and this, that and the other.

Yeah, I mean, I actually agree with you. I think that this has been weirdly educational for anybody watching, just because, and I'm just speaking from an American standpoint, I think there's something about seeing what for most people is a literally completely foreign conspiracy theory kind of shakes you out of that notion totally that this can even be a completely unbiased magical machine that gives you answers and helps you fix everything and helps you make the government more efficient or whatever. I think this maybe this kind of jolts us out of that. So yeah, I feel like this was a weirdly educational moment. I mean, I didn't expect it to start from a strawberry elephant, but you.

Yeah, I mean, I actually agree with you. I think that this has been weirdly educational for anybody watching, just because, and I'm just speaking from an American standpoint, I think there's something about seeing what for most people is a literally completely foreign conspiracy theory kind of shakes you out of that notion totally that this can even be a completely unbiased magical machine that gives you answers and helps you fix everything and helps you make the government more efficient or whatever. I think this maybe this kind of jolts us out of that. So yeah, I feel like this was a weirdly educational moment. I mean, I didn't expect it to start from a strawberry elephant, but you.

Know, well, the funny the sort of the epilogue is that they seem to have changed the prompt again at some point, instructing Rock very severely to be skeptical of mainstream narratives, which means that every once in a while you'll ask it a question. I saw somebody asking it, is Timothy shallome a movie star? And Grek says something like, well, I've looked into this and there are many sources saying that he is a movie star. But I'm trained to be skeptical of mainstream narratives, so I'm gonna wait to check the primary you know, to check the primary data or whatever it is. So somehow they've somehow they've taught Grok to be a Timothy Shallomey truth there that there's like it's like it doesn't doesn't believe that he's a movie star because only the mainstream sources are saying that he is incredible, which I thought was just a funny like, you know, you you tweak it too hard, and all of a sudden, it's gonna make up a conspiracy theory about literally anything you ask it to.

Know, well, the funny the sort of the epilogue is that they seem to have changed the prompt again at some point, instructing Rock very severely to be skeptical of mainstream narratives, which means that every once in a while you'll ask it a question. I saw somebody asking it, is Timothy shallome a movie star? And Grek says something like, well, I've looked into this and there are many sources saying that he is a movie star. But I'm trained to be skeptical of mainstream narratives, so I'm gonna wait to check the primary you know, to check the primary data or whatever it is. So somehow they've somehow they've taught Grok to be a Timothy Shallomey truth there that there's like it's like it doesn't doesn't believe that he's a movie star because only the mainstream sources are saying that he is incredible, which I thought was just a funny like, you know, you you tweak it too hard, and all of a sudden, it's gonna make up a conspiracy theory about literally anything you ask it to.

Part of the reason that I wanted to talk about this now is that I know that a lot of people, if they're aware that this whole weird thing happened. It was a quick headline. It was hahaha, groc did some weird stuff. It got confused about a strawberry elephant and started talking about by genocide. Isn't that weird? Dunk on the musk, Move on with your day, right. I feel like there's a little bit more here from the standpoint of just everyday people like me and you who use this stuff, or maybe people who don't, who just live in the world where other people are using AI. Is there anything that you think that this says about what we might be one to watch out for or might be coming to the future.

Part of the reason that I wanted to talk about this now is that I know that a lot of people, if they're aware that this whole weird thing happened. It was a quick headline. It was hahaha, groc did some weird stuff. It got confused about a strawberry elephant and started talking about by genocide. Isn't that weird? Dunk on the musk, Move on with your day, right. I feel like there's a little bit more here from the standpoint of just everyday people like me and you who use this stuff, or maybe people who don't, who just live in the world where other people are using AI. Is there anything that you think that this says about what we might be one to watch out for or might be coming to the future.

Yeah, I mean the answer is basically like this, Like more, you know, I suspect there will be a lot more examples of hot button issues that get pushed in certain directions by AI companies without a ton of transparency about where that comes from. Maybe more often about stuff that Americans are more likely to already have kind of party driven ideas about so that it's a little less jarring than like, what does South Africa have to do with anything? Elon Musk is a particular kind of actor, right, Like, without saying that we should trust sam Altman at all, he is a much less sort of explicitly ideological figure, doesn't quite have the same kind of acts to grind, right, But that doesn't mean at the same time that we should think of chat GPT as the good AI and GROC as the bad AI or anything. You know, these all need to be treated with skepticism, and the answers they give need to be treated with skepticism. And I should say, like, even if you set aside the sort of conspiracy mongering and the idea that there's somebody behind the scenes pulling the strings this way or that way, you know, we should be treating the answers they're giving with skepticism because these are linear aggression bots that are telling you what words are supposed to go after these other words based on everything and their data, which often will give you the right answer about things, but isn't always going to give you the right answer about things, and you know, which doesn't mean they shouldn't ever be used, that they can't be useful in any situation, that they need to be cast aside, But it does mean that there are a bunch of different levels on which we should be looking at, scance at answers that we get from chatbots, and ensuring that, like you know, we have critical thinking skills. So, yeah, there's going to be worse examples of this, less funny, less obvious examples of this, But I'm hoping that you know, I guess what you might call AI literacy is also going to rise over the next few years as they get more prominent.

Yeah, I mean the answer is basically like this, Like more, you know, I suspect there will be a lot more examples of hot button issues that get pushed in certain directions by AI companies without a ton of transparency about where that comes from. Maybe more often about stuff that Americans are more likely to already have kind of party driven ideas about so that it's a little less jarring than like, what does South Africa have to do with anything? Elon Musk is a particular kind of actor, right, Like, without saying that we should trust sam Altman at all, he is a much less sort of explicitly ideological figure, doesn't quite have the same kind of acts to grind, right, But that doesn't mean at the same time that we should think of chat GPT as the good AI and GROC as the bad AI or anything. You know, these all need to be treated with skepticism, and the answers they give need to be treated with skepticism. And I should say, like, even if you set aside the sort of conspiracy mongering and the idea that there's somebody behind the scenes pulling the strings this way or that way, you know, we should be treating the answers they're giving with skepticism because these are linear aggression bots that are telling you what words are supposed to go after these other words based on everything and their data, which often will give you the right answer about things, but isn't always going to give you the right answer about things, and you know, which doesn't mean they shouldn't ever be used, that they can't be useful in any situation, that they need to be cast aside, But it does mean that there are a bunch of different levels on which we should be looking at, scance at answers that we get from chatbots, and ensuring that, like you know, we have critical thinking skills. So, yeah, there's going to be worse examples of this, less funny, less obvious examples of this, But I'm hoping that you know, I guess what you might call AI literacy is also going to rise over the next few years as they get more prominent.

I mean, we can only hope, but precisely what you just said there, though less obvious, this was a particularly obvious one. Yeah, but if you're asking about something related, you know, more close to home, American politics or whatever the case may be, you might not notice as much. If somebody has slightly bent the LM to answer you in a particular way. That's a little scary.

I mean, we can only hope, but precisely what you just said there, though less obvious, this was a particularly obvious one. Yeah, but if you're asking about something related, you know, more close to home, American politics or whatever the case may be, you might not notice as much. If somebody has slightly bent the LM to answer you in a particular way. That's a little scary.

Yeah, definitely. The bottom line is, so long as these AI models are kept in private hands by very rich people, this is a danger, and so transparency is a great staff. But I believe pretty strongly that the end game has to be democratic control, you know, democratic political control, I mean small detail democratic control ownership by the people of Frontier AI models. That feels like a pipe dream right now, you know, I don't. I don't quite know how or where what the past to that is. But otherwise you are always going to be at the mercy of the three am phone call from an Elon musk.

Yeah, definitely. The bottom line is, so long as these AI models are kept in private hands by very rich people, this is a danger, and so transparency is a great staff. But I believe pretty strongly that the end game has to be democratic control, you know, democratic political control, I mean small detail democratic control ownership by the people of Frontier AI models. That feels like a pipe dream right now, you know, I don't. I don't quite know how or where what the past to that is. But otherwise you are always going to be at the mercy of the three am phone call from an Elon musk.

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Shout out to Max Reid for being down to talk about with this with me and again. His newsletter is Readmax dot substack dot com, which is both highly recommended and it's linked in the show notes. Thank you so much for listening to kill Switch. You can hit us up at kill Switch at Kaleidoscope dot NYC with any thoughts you might have, or you can hit me up at dex digit that's d e X d I g I on Instagram or blue Sky. I'm not on Twitter, so don't try to rock at me. But if you like this episode, take that phone out of that pocket and leave us a review, because it really does help people find the show, and that in turn helps us keep doing our thing. Killswitch is hosted by me Dexter Thomas is produced by sin Ozaki, dar Luk Potts and Kate Osborne. Our theme song was written by me and Kyle Murdoch and Kyle also mixed the show. From Kaleidoscope, our executive producers are Ozwa Washin, mukesh Hat Togadur and Kate Osborne. From iHeart, our executive producers are Katrina Norville and Nikki Etur. Catch on the next One,