Australian act, SELVE is the first Aboriginal-led band to record at Abbey Road Studios in London. The band recently released their second record, Breaking Into Heaven. KEXP Contributor, Celine Teo-Blockey spoke to frontman Loki Liddle about the strong Indigenous themes on the album and how returning to Country and speaking to his elders helped shape the writing process for this expansive pop-rock album. 

Australian act, SELVE is the first Aboriginal-led band to record at Abbey Road Studios in London. The band recently released their second record, Breaking Into Heaven. KEXP Contributor, Celine Teo-Blockey spoke to frontman Loki Liddle about the strong Indigenous themes on the album and how returning to Country and speaking to his elders helped shape the writing process for this expansive pop-rock album.&nbsp;

On A Deeper Listen, host Emily Fox and other storytellers from KEXP talk with artists about the stories behind their songs and the experiences that inform their work. Through each conversation, we uncover the humanity behind the music, allowing us to hear it in a whole new way.

On A Deeper Listen, host Emily Fox and other storytellers from KEXP talk with artists about the stories behind their songs and the experiences that inform their work. Through each conversation, we uncover the humanity behind the music, allowing us to hear it in a whole new way.

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SELVE on new album and being the first Aboriginal-led band to record at Abbey Road Studios 

For decades, Beverly Glenn-Copeland’s music went virtually unnoticed. Beginning in 1970, he released records that crossed folk, R&B, electronic music, and other genres, always seeking new territory. That changed in 2017, when his 1986 album Keyboard Fantasies was rediscovered, ushering in renewed interest in his work.

Since then, Glenn—who came out as a trans man in 2002—has toured and released new music for a growing, devoted audience. In 2024, however, he was diagnosed with dementia. While at first they thought this would be the end of his performing career, Glenn and his wife, Elizabeth Copeland, are returning to play a short run of Canadian dates and releasing a new album, Laughter in Summer, on Feb. 6 via Transgressive Records.

KEXP’s Dusty Henry speaks with the couple about returning to music in the face of Glenn’s diagnosis, the purpose and power of their work, and the love that binds them together.

“I always considered that the music that I ‘wrote’ was sent to me from a higher source,” Glenn says. “You can't do that if you don't work at your craft, whatever it is. But if you do, and there's something special about what you're doing, then you're going to get sent some amazing stuff.”

Photo credit: Wade Muir

For decades, Beverly Glenn-Copeland&rsquo;s music went virtually unnoticed. Beginning in 1970, he released records that crossed folk, R&amp;B, electronic music, and other genres, always seeking new territory. That changed in 2017, when his 1986 album&nbsp;Keyboard Fantasies was rediscovered, ushering in renewed interest in his work.
Since then, Glenn&mdash;who came out as a trans man in 2002&mdash;has toured and released new music for a growing, devoted audience. In 2024, however, he was diagnosed with dementia. While at first they thought this would be the end of his performing career, Glenn and his wife, Elizabeth Copeland, are returning to play a short run of Canadian dates and releasing a new album,&nbsp;Laughter in Summer, on Feb. 6 via Transgressive Records.
KEXP&rsquo;s Dusty Henry speaks with the couple about returning to music in the face of Glenn&rsquo;s diagnosis, the purpose and power of their work, and the love that binds them together.
&ldquo;I always considered that the music that I &lsquo;wrote&rsquo; was sent to me from a higher source,&rdquo; Glenn says. &ldquo;You can't do that if you don't work at your craft, whatever it is. But if you do, and there's something special about what you're doing, then you're going to get sent some amazing stuff.&rdquo;
Photo credit: Wade Muir

Beverly Glenn-Copeland and Elizabeth Copeland on the Hard Commitment of Love

Toronto-based artist Kadhja Bonet recently released a short but powerful EP called Battlewear. Written just after Trump's re-election, it's a politically charged project that takes aim at tech giants, corporate greed, and streaming culture. Isabel Khalili speaks with Bonet about the rage and urgency behind the release, why she chose to leave Spotify and part ways with her label, her thoughts on social media, AI, and motherhood, and how stripping back her sound helped sharpen her message.

“They really want us to think that we are beholden to the system,” Bonet says. “But we are not. We actually have this capacity to break free of this and start our own organic communities.”

Toronto-based artist Kadhja Bonet recently released a short but powerful EP called&nbsp;Battlewear.&nbsp;Written just after Trump's re-election, it's a politically charged project that takes aim at tech giants, corporate greed, and streaming culture. Isabel Khalili speaks with Bonet about the rage and urgency behind the release, why she chose to leave Spotify and part ways with her label, her thoughts on social media, AI, and motherhood, and how stripping back her sound helped sharpen her message.
&ldquo;They really want us to think that we are beholden to the system,&rdquo; Bonet says. &ldquo;But we are not. We actually have this capacity to break free of this and start our own organic communities.&rdquo;

Kadhja Bonet Talks Battlewear and Breaking With Big Tech

Fela Kuti: Fear No Man is a 12-part podcast honoring the life and legacy of the inventor of Afrobeat, Fela Kuti. The show spotlights stories and perspectives from people highly influenced by Fela Kuti’s art and politics, including David Byrne, Brian Eno, Santigold, Questlove, Paul McCartney, and so many others.

KEXP’s Roddy Nikpour spoke with the host of the podcast — someone with a very distinct flavor of storytelling — Jad Abumrad. He’s best known as the founder and original host of the public radio show, Radiolab, as well as other music-oriented podcasts like Dolly Parton's America. Abumrad is also a composer himself.

“It's a really clever thing he's doing,” Abumrad says in the interview. “He moves you into a trance, wakes you up, then into politics — and then you're dancing at that point. So, your body's already in action. It's taking this political message and turning it into movement that then actually makes you want to do something.”

The story of Fela Kuti goes beyond his lifetime, though.

“The power of music is it'll outlive us,” Jad continues. “I think that's what Fela meant when he said ‘music is the weapon of the future.’ It's going to outlive the enemies. It will do something beyond us. And I hope he's right.”

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<a href="https://lnk.to/felakutiPR" data-stringify-link="https://lnk.to/felakutiPR" data-sk="tooltip_parent" aria-describedby="sk-tooltip-16967">Fela Kuti: Fear No Man</a>&nbsp;is a 12-part podcast honoring the life and legacy of the inventor of Afrobeat, Fela Kuti. The show spotlights stories and perspectives from people highly influenced by Fela Kuti&rsquo;s art and politics, including David Byrne, Brian Eno, Santigold, Questlove, Paul McCartney, and so many others.
KEXP&rsquo;s Roddy Nikpour spoke with the host of the podcast &mdash; someone with a very distinct flavor of storytelling &mdash; Jad Abumrad. He&rsquo;s best known as the founder and original host of the public radio show, <a href="https://radiolab.org/" data-stringify-link="https://radiolab.org/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Radiolab</a>, as well as other music-oriented podcasts like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dolly-partons-america" data-stringify-link="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dolly-partons-america" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Dolly Parton's America</a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://soundcloud.com/jadabumrad" data-stringify-link="https://soundcloud.com/jadabumrad" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Abumrad is also a composer himself</a>.
&ldquo;It's a really clever thing he's doing,&rdquo; Abumrad says in the interview. &ldquo;He moves you into a trance, wakes you up, then into politics &mdash; and then you're dancing at that point. So, your body's already in action. It's taking this political message and turning it into movement that then actually makes you want to do something.&rdquo;
The story of Fela Kuti goes beyond his lifetime, though.
&ldquo;The power of music is it'll outlive us,&rdquo; Jad continues. &ldquo;I think that's what Fela meant when he said &lsquo;music is the weapon of the future.&rsquo; It's going to outlive the enemies. It will do something beyond us. And I hope he's right.&rdquo;
Support the show: <a href="http://kexp.org/deeper" data-stringify-link="http://kexp.org/deeper" data-sk="tooltip_parent">kexp.org/deeper</a> Photo by: Leon Morris

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