How often do you consider safety when making a decision? Have you ever said no to a ministry opportunity or trip because of safety concerns? Theologian Jeremy Lundgren provides an in-depth study of safety and what it means to pursue safety in the Christian life in a new book, The Pursuit of Safety. Jeremy joins Seth and Deb to address how the secular understanding of safety shapes us and how we can navigate and pursue safety in light of what Scripture has called us to as disciples of Christ.