How did church growth become an obsession and is it a problem? Why is the church's celebrity culture a recipe for moral failure in its leaders?  Moody Books author Karl Vaters takes us on a journey through our society's obsession with celebrity and influence while affirming what is good and true about the Church. He invites us to de-size how we see our church and reframe how we view health and fruitfulness. 

<p>How did church growth become an obsession and is it a problem? Why is the church's celebrity culture a recipe for moral failure in its leaders?&nbsp; Moody Books author Karl Vaters takes us on a journey through our society's obsession with celebrity and influence while affirming what is good and true about the Church. He invites us to de-size how we see our church and reframe how we view health and fruitfulness.&nbsp;</p>

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De-Sizing the Church: A Conversation with Karl Vaters

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