In this week’s episode, Katie talks to Racial Justice Educator and author of Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race, Debby Irving.Katie and Debby open up about recognizing and examining their own privilege, everyday habits to cultivate to build racial equity, and resources to enrich your child’s education around matters of race. Later, Katie welcomes Dr. Margaret Hagerman, Assistant Professor of Sociology at Mississippi State University and author of White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America, who discussed that even with good intentions, the choices that we make for our children can widen the racial divide. 




Crib Notes:

https://debbyirving.com/ - Debby Irving’s website
https://debbyirving.com/the-book/ - Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race by Debby Irving.
https://debbyirving.com/recommended-resources/ - Resources list




https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/ - Dr. Eddie Moore Jr.
https://www.whiteprivilegeconference.com/ - The White Privilege Conference
https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/21daychallenge - 21 Day Racial Equity Challenge




https://robindiangelo.com/- Robin DiAngelo, author of White Fragility




https://www.margarethagerman.com/ - Dr. Margaret Hagerman’s website
https://www.margarethagerman.com/research.html - Research studies




https://nyupress.org/9781479803682/white-kids/ - White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America - by Dr. Margaret Hagerman

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In this week’s episode, Katie talks to Racial Justice Educator and author of Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race, Debby Irving. Katie and Debby open up about recognizing and examining their own privilege, everyday habits to cultivate to build racial equity, and resources to enrich your child’s education around matters of race. Later, Katie welcomes Dr. Margaret Hagerman, Assistant Professor of Sociology at Mississippi State University and author of White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America, who discussed that even with good intentions, the choices that we make for our children can widen the racial divide.  Crib Notes:<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdebbyirving.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518735943&amp;sdata=sZTX3WcHacNzzRcHUxPxXZ1LYA81NgIAfV8GtnOzICw%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://debbyirving.com/</a> - Debby Irving’s website<ul>
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<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdebbyirving.com%2Fthe-book%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518735943&amp;sdata=QqgKpK%2FBBIk9Kx%2BP0KWPpzVjxVica3X1qOaBShjilMU%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://debbyirving.com/the-book/</a> - Waking Up White and Finding Myself in the Story of Race by Debby Irving.</li>
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<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdebbyirving.com%2Frecommended-resources%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518745938&amp;sdata=lpL%2Bn45z%2Fe2hRQlvHv8nWq%2FtR9bE3VkOCarF%2FIUVtHs%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://debbyirving.com/recommended-resources/</a> - Resources list</li>
</ul> <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eddiemoorejr.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518745938&amp;sdata=QAVK8rX1Fx%2BJnP1Ew1336mS3M%2BiUHDLQ5oyHkOI3sCA%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/</a> - Dr. Eddie Moore Jr.<ul>
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<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.whiteprivilegeconference.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518755931&amp;sdata=g0ZKi5327UUzZlkk7ZXGQMFmAFGOAylpyHt6pJtv%2BFM%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.whiteprivilegeconference.com/</a> - The White Privilege Conference</li>
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<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eddiemoorejr.com%2F21daychallenge&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518755931&amp;sdata=fDwrsV9s%2B5uXfD%2FKaponBiqKi30XCrQdlv6jPwe6zac%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/21daychallenge</a> - 21 Day Racial Equity Challenge</li>
</ul> <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frobindiangelo.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518765927&amp;sdata=fCbhPGeKCGNtaPnC7rXjwzH2Qhbbpge99bay3DPAog0%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://robindiangelo.com/</a> - Robin DiAngelo, author of White Fragility <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.margarethagerman.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518765927&amp;sdata=1RG0x3a%2F4MP%2FJTSFq1IjOllFbwK7OGx54aUjrKlNHGw%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.margarethagerman.com/</a> - Dr. Margaret Hagerman’s website<ul><li>
<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.margarethagerman.com%2Fresearch.html&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518775921&amp;sdata=nVJwdD4ctt6slv5LDirJ3Elz5JHwfKwCx1J5gWwpnyc%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.margarethagerman.com/research.html</a> - Research studies</li></ul> <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnyupress.org%2F9781479803682%2Fwhite-kids%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cgabriellecollins%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf65cfd7106134aa22e8c08d8292b20aa%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637304612518775921&amp;sdata=f0UUDl5bxpotWqm%2Fr6%2F36AApylRw1F%2FPg3ig4KyTiuA%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://nyupress.org/9781479803682/white-kids/</a> - White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America - by Dr. Margaret Hagerman Learn more about your ad-choices at <a href="https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com">https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com</a>

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Katie and her guests open up about recognizing their own privilege, and discuss ways to enrich a child’s learning around matters of race.

‘Waking Up White’ w/ Debby Irving & Dr. Margaret Hagerman

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