Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “First Principle,” and posed the thought-provoking question, “Can you go to church for years and not know Christ?” The President and Chief Executive Officer of Transform Iran, Lana Silk, explained why many Iranians see the current conflict differently from how it’s portrayed in the West and shared how believers continue to bring hope amid uncertainty.  The lead pastor of City Church, Dean Inserra, unpacked his book “The Unsaved Christian,” explaining the marks of cultural Christianity and encouraging listeners to examine whether their faith rests in Christ alone rather than heritage, morality, or religious tradition. Abdu Murray, the President of Embrace the Truth, shared how his journey from Islam to Christ shaped his understanding of cultural Christianity and encouraged listeners to pursue genuine saving faith over religious tradition. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:
Lana Silk [ 13:47 ]
Dean Inserra [ 24:32 ]
Abdu Murray [ 34:52 ]

Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, &ldquo;First Principle,&rdquo; and posed the thought-provoking question, &ldquo;Can you go to church for years and not know Christ?&rdquo; The President and Chief Executive Officer of <a title="Transform Iran" href="https://transformiran.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Transform Iran</a>, Lana Silk, explained why many Iranians see the current conflict differently from how it&rsquo;s portrayed in the West and shared how believers continue to bring hope amid uncertainty.&nbsp; The lead pastor of <a title="City Church" href="https://www.citychurchtallahassee.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">City Church</a>, Dean Inserra, unpacked his book &ldquo;<a title="The Unsaved Christian" href="https://www.moodypublishers.com/the-unsaved-christian" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Unsaved Christian</a>,&rdquo; explaining the marks of cultural Christianity and encouraging listeners to examine whether their faith rests in Christ alone rather than heritage, morality, or religious tradition. Abdu Murray, the President of <a title="Embrace the Truth" href="https://embracethetruth.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Embrace the Truth</a>, shared how his journey from Islam to Christ shaped his understanding of cultural Christianity and encouraged listeners to pursue genuine saving faith over religious tradition. You can hear the highlights of today&rsquo;s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.
If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Lana Silk [ 13:47 ] Dean Inserra [ 24:32 ] Abdu Murray [ 34:52 ]

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The Unsaved Christian with Dean Inserra & The Difference Between Religion and Saving Faith in Christ with Abdu Murray

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