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Carl and crew helping you take your next step with Jesus. I am broadcasting from Maranatha in Michigan and it has been an incredible time up here. Uh, what an amazing group of people I'm with on the shore of Lake Michigan. About four hours drive from Chicago, four hours depending on where you're at in Chicago. It could be three hours. Could be four hours. Yes, folks, it's one hour to get across town on a good day.

Carl and crew helping you take your next step with Jesus. I am broadcasting from Maranatha in Michigan and it has been an incredible time up here. Uh, what an amazing group of people I'm with on the shore of Lake Michigan. About four hours drive from Chicago, four hours depending on where you're at in Chicago. It could be three hours. Could be four hours. Yes, folks, it's one hour to get across town on a good day.

That's a good day. Correct.

That's a good day. Correct.

What a.

What a.

Good day. Tell me what the evening sessions have been like.

Good day. Tell me what the evening sessions have been like.

You know they have. The Spirit of God has been moving in power, Ali. It has been amazing. And we've just been breaking down. I haven't even told anyone what I'm doing here with this message series that I'm giving, but I'm basically doing first time ever. I've done a conference on Killing Sin, which is a book that I wrote this year, and it has been awesome. God has just been peeling paint. Um, you know what we've done thus far with the ground that we've covered and some of you might say killing sin. What kind of a crazy topic is that? Well, it really flows out of not only Jesus's words. If your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. And the reason Jesus said those words is simply this we need to take extreme measures to defeat and kill what is killing us. And so he's being hyperbolic in that statement. But the apostle Paul in Romans eight verse 13 says, for if you live according to the flesh, you will die. But if by the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Pretty strong language, pretty definitive. So you got to go. Okay. Well, what's happening here? And is he proposing sinless perfection is one good question you got to ask yourself if you're really thinking about this. And the answer is no. But clearly what Paul is speaking of and just spiking what Jesus introduced is that we do not have to be slaves to sin. And that's what Romans six is all about. Praise be to God who liberated us from this life of sin and death. So it's been an awesome time, ally. Uh, we're we got to the point last night where? See it, own it, hate it. And I was unpacking all the scriptures of what God hates in Proverbs 616 through 19. And then the need to hate what is evil in order to cling what is good out of Romans 12 nine. It's been epic. So I'm going to break down a little bit of that today. But the reception, the receptivity of people here has been just Phenomenal. It's just been humbling. And we got hundreds of folks here that are just on fire for the Lord. And it's it's neat to see the Word of God bounce off these hearts flame for the Lord.

You know they have. The Spirit of God has been moving in power, Ali. It has been amazing. And we've just been breaking down. I haven't even told anyone what I'm doing here with this message series that I'm giving, but I'm basically doing first time ever. I've done a conference on Killing Sin, which is a book that I wrote this year, and it has been awesome. God has just been peeling paint. Um, you know what we've done thus far with the ground that we've covered and some of you might say killing sin. What kind of a crazy topic is that? Well, it really flows out of not only Jesus's words. If your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. And the reason Jesus said those words is simply this we need to take extreme measures to defeat and kill what is killing us. And so he's being hyperbolic in that statement. But the apostle Paul in Romans eight verse 13 says, for if you live according to the flesh, you will die. But if by the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Pretty strong language, pretty definitive. So you got to go. Okay. Well, what's happening here? And is he proposing sinless perfection is one good question you got to ask yourself if you're really thinking about this. And the answer is no. But clearly what Paul is speaking of and just spiking what Jesus introduced is that we do not have to be slaves to sin. And that's what Romans six is all about. Praise be to God who liberated us from this life of sin and death. So it's been an awesome time, ally. Uh, we're we got to the point last night where? See it, own it, hate it. And I was unpacking all the scriptures of what God hates in Proverbs 616 through 19. And then the need to hate what is evil in order to cling what is good out of Romans 12 nine. It's been epic. So I'm going to break down a little bit of that today. But the reception, the receptivity of people here has been just Phenomenal. It's just been humbling. And we got hundreds of folks here that are just on fire for the Lord. And it's it's neat to see the Word of God bounce off these hearts flame for the Lord.

Nor are these is it all men? Is it men and women? Is it families?

Nor are these is it all men? Is it men and women? Is it families?

Men? Women? Families? So they've got they got a cool thing going on here. So they've got. If you're listening, we'll tell you where to find out about this camp. This camp is so tremendous. The history here is almost 100 years. And, uh, guys, like as I mentioned yesterday, Billy Graham has spoken here in the past, and it's it's an awesome situation. So what they do is they have a kids ministry going at the same time as these evening sessions. So these kids and they're not just getting babysitting time, they've got teachers who are flat dishing it up for these kids for a full week. So they're getting immersed in Bible truth and liberating truths. And so I've got with me in the auditorium, you know, probably looks to me like if my eyes don't deceive me, looks to me like about 15 or 16 on up. Uh, so high school age. On on up. And it's beautiful. We got a 98 one year old woman here. The only reason I know that is I met her and her friend told me. You know how old she is.

Men? Women? Families? So they've got they got a cool thing going on here. So they've got. If you're listening, we'll tell you where to find out about this camp. This camp is so tremendous. The history here is almost 100 years. And, uh, guys, like as I mentioned yesterday, Billy Graham has spoken here in the past, and it's it's an awesome situation. So what they do is they have a kids ministry going at the same time as these evening sessions. So these kids and they're not just getting babysitting time, they've got teachers who are flat dishing it up for these kids for a full week. So they're getting immersed in Bible truth and liberating truths. And so I've got with me in the auditorium, you know, probably looks to me like if my eyes don't deceive me, looks to me like about 15 or 16 on up. Uh, so high school age. On on up. And it's beautiful. We got a 98 one year old woman here. The only reason I know that is I met her and her friend told me. You know how old she is.

Good friend.

Good friend.

98. And, uh, to watch a 98 year old woman lean into the truth of God's word. Still changing. Wow. Still getting a grip on what it is to walk with Jesus. Oh.

98. And, uh, to watch a 98 year old woman lean into the truth of God's word. Still changing. Wow. Still getting a grip on what it is to walk with Jesus. Oh.

That's pretty remarkable.

That's pretty remarkable.

Thing. Yeah, it's really, really cool. So, yes. Um, killing sins, a real thing. One writer, John Owen, called it mortification of sin, which is the humiliation of sin. It's a classic book, John Owen. In fact, he's so strong on this one. He said, be killing sin or sin will be killing you. It's his most famous quote from that book, and he's right about that. We can all attest to that. I don't need to go around the circle here today. We know that's true. And so the question is, how do we do it? We're going to be breaking it down today coming up here in a couple of minutes. This is crazy. What's going to happen here this morning. So we got Drew Dickens coming in.

Thing. Yeah, it's really, really cool. So, yes. Um, killing sins, a real thing. One writer, John Owen, called it mortification of sin, which is the humiliation of sin. It's a classic book, John Owen. In fact, he's so strong on this one. He said, be killing sin or sin will be killing you. It's his most famous quote from that book, and he's right about that. We can all attest to that. I don't need to go around the circle here today. We know that's true. And so the question is, how do we do it? We're going to be breaking it down today coming up here in a couple of minutes. This is crazy. What's going to happen here this morning. So we got Drew Dickens coming in.

Yes.

Yes.

Now he plugged in a long query. So he's an AI expert. He plugged in a super long query on. In fact, he starts this dialogue with AI by saying, take on the role of my elite spiritual coach, rooted in evangelical Western Protestant theology and trained in spiritual direction, psychology, and behavioral science. I'm seeking clarity around the theme of sin, mortification, what needs to begin, what needs to end, and what needs to be surrendered or strengthened. Now, the query that it plugged in went on many more sentences, and it ends with, my goal is for you to help me move from vague good intentions to spirit empowered obedience and joy. Ready? Ask me the first question.

Now he plugged in a long query. So he's an AI expert. He plugged in a super long query on. In fact, he starts this dialogue with AI by saying, take on the role of my elite spiritual coach, rooted in evangelical Western Protestant theology and trained in spiritual direction, psychology, and behavioral science. I'm seeking clarity around the theme of sin, mortification, what needs to begin, what needs to end, and what needs to be surrendered or strengthened. Now, the query that it plugged in went on many more sentences, and it ends with, my goal is for you to help me move from vague good intentions to spirit empowered obedience and joy. Ready? Ask me the first question.

Whoa.

Whoa.

Whoa is right. So I am dying to hear this. No. No joking. Drew Dickens, PhD on. I couldn't get a call back seven years ago, and I think five years ago things began to shift. And now he's getting calls constantly and we bug him the most of anyone else around here.

Whoa is right. So I am dying to hear this. No. No joking. Drew Dickens, PhD on. I couldn't get a call back seven years ago, and I think five years ago things began to shift. And now he's getting calls constantly and we bug him the most of anyone else around here.

That's fascinating.

That's fascinating.

So he has this podcast, I and spirituality and the most recent title, I and I can't wait to ask him about it. Can I kill sin?

So he has this podcast, I and spirituality and the most recent title, I and I can't wait to ask him about it. Can I kill sin?

Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. All right, buckle up. You better get yourself a swig of water or coffee.

Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. All right, buckle up. You better get yourself a swig of water or coffee.

Maybe two.

Maybe two.

Maybe two, maybe two. Drew Dickens coming up straight ahead.

Maybe two, maybe two. Drew Dickens coming up straight ahead.

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Its curling crew. We are kicking it off this morning. Hot! Oh, I love this guy. Drew Dickens. Amazing. What a brilliant dude. Got a PhD in I before I was popular. Boy, you know what? I believe God got him out on the front edge of this thing for, uh, for a big reason, and not least of which is helping saints understand. Get stay ahead of the curve. It's changing every day. That's not an overstatement. I is just galloping forward. And we've got him with this right now. Drew Dickens. All right, before we jump into this, this this query you made of I. It's almost crazy. I don't even think an average pastor would want to be asked this question, drew.

Its curling crew. We are kicking it off this morning. Hot! Oh, I love this guy. Drew Dickens. Amazing. What a brilliant dude. Got a PhD in I before I was popular. Boy, you know what? I believe God got him out on the front edge of this thing for, uh, for a big reason, and not least of which is helping saints understand. Get stay ahead of the curve. It's changing every day. That's not an overstatement. I is just galloping forward. And we've got him with this right now. Drew Dickens. All right, before we jump into this, this this query you made of I. It's almost crazy. I don't even think an average pastor would want to be asked this question, drew.

It was wild and so motivated by your book. I was listening to the intro and the words that you use, you know, kill, conquer, defeat. Just the idea of, as you say, extreme measures, right to kill what is killing us. But so often in in that spirit, how we approach our sin is more like a oops, you got that right. I hope I don't do that again. And I said, man, what can I do in my life to, to, to to be that assertive, to to call in the spirit to do that. And I said, man, if, if someone were to ask me hard questions. And so that's how I came up with this prompt, is ask me 12 questions to, to help me face these sins in my life. And where do I go from there?

It was wild and so motivated by your book. I was listening to the intro and the words that you use, you know, kill, conquer, defeat. Just the idea of, as you say, extreme measures, right to kill what is killing us. But so often in in that spirit, how we approach our sin is more like a oops, you got that right. I hope I don't do that again. And I said, man, what can I do in my life to, to, to to be that assertive, to to call in the spirit to do that. And I said, man, if, if someone were to ask me hard questions. And so that's how I came up with this prompt, is ask me 12 questions to, to help me face these sins in my life. And where do I go from there?

It's just crazy. Okay. Drew Dickens, let's get his bio here. Ali. Because this is crazy.

It's just crazy. Okay. Drew Dickens, let's get his bio here. Ali. Because this is crazy.

This is fantastic. Drew Dickens Doctor Dickens is a visionary leader, AI expert, scholar. He has significantly contributed to the intersection of technology, spirituality, and faith based engagement.

This is fantastic. Drew Dickens Doctor Dickens is a visionary leader, AI expert, scholar. He has significantly contributed to the intersection of technology, spirituality, and faith based engagement.

Yeah. Okay, so let's jump in. This query, I don't even want to read the whole thing. That'd take half the show this morning, but you did an extensive query that really you. You were very your thoroughness. Is that what made the whatever response you got? Is this what makes the good stuff happen in I being this thorough with your queries?

Yeah. Okay, so let's jump in. This query, I don't even want to read the whole thing. That'd take half the show this morning, but you did an extensive query that really you. You were very your thoroughness. Is that what made the whatever response you got? Is this what makes the good stuff happen in I being this thorough with your queries?

You know, in hindsight, I could have just said act like Carl.

You know, in hindsight, I could have just said act like Carl.

I know.

I know.

Right? Pretend you're Carl. Um, but yeah, it really is. Um, so much of of AI is how we engage with it. It's called prompting. Um, and so the prompt that I wrote, uh, and it's on the podcast actually got the entire thing. You can copy and paste it on your own into your own, uh, whatever, uh, model that you're using. Uh, and, um, AI chatbot that you're using and paste that into it. But yeah, a lot of time, uh, tweaking the wording, uh, getting it to, uh, to respond in a way that I thought was going to be beneficial and really that I thought the spirit was going to lead through. And so a lot of work on that. But you can you can copy it right out of the podcast and my Patreon channel and paste it into your own. Uh, but prompting is so important when you're engaging with AI.

Right? Pretend you're Carl. Um, but yeah, it really is. Um, so much of of AI is how we engage with it. It's called prompting. Um, and so the prompt that I wrote, uh, and it's on the podcast actually got the entire thing. You can copy and paste it on your own into your own, uh, whatever, uh, model that you're using. Uh, and, um, AI chatbot that you're using and paste that into it. But yeah, a lot of time, uh, tweaking the wording, uh, getting it to, uh, to respond in a way that I thought was going to be beneficial and really that I thought the spirit was going to lead through. And so a lot of work on that. But you can you can copy it right out of the podcast and my Patreon channel and paste it into your own. Uh, but prompting is so important when you're engaging with AI.

So I'm curious, what did you discover? Like, was this something? Did you get back a a written response? Did you do sort of. I know you've done an AI interview before with Maya. I listened to that episode. What did you get back when you put in this query?

So I'm curious, what did you discover? Like, was this something? Did you get back a a written response? Did you do sort of. I know you've done an AI interview before with Maya. I listened to that episode. What did you get back when you put in this query?

And thank you, by the way, still, after, uh, talking to you all about Maya that morning, it's still my most listened to episode, so thank you for that. Everybody loves listening to me talk to my, uh. Um, but, uh, yes, uh, it, uh, as I was working on it, uh, I actually sent a version of the prompt to my wife, and she was, uh, she was engaged with it. It asked it asked her 12 questions, and and she ended with, oh, my gosh, can I print this out? Uh, so. yes, it's designed to kind of be, uh, create a, a document or, uh, some, some writing that that you could, uh, keep with you. Um, in fact, one of the things that it kept asking me was, do you want me to come up with, like one, a one sentence prayer for you to start the morning? Oh, um, and it offered a one sentence prayer to end the evening. Um, almost a collect. And, uh, so it it really gives you several different ways of, of holding on to, uh, how to mortify, how to kill, uh, your sin.

And thank you, by the way, still, after, uh, talking to you all about Maya that morning, it's still my most listened to episode, so thank you for that. Everybody loves listening to me talk to my, uh. Um, but, uh, yes, uh, it, uh, as I was working on it, uh, I actually sent a version of the prompt to my wife, and she was, uh, she was engaged with it. It asked it asked her 12 questions, and and she ended with, oh, my gosh, can I print this out? Uh, so. yes, it's designed to kind of be, uh, create a, a document or, uh, some, some writing that that you could, uh, keep with you. Um, in fact, one of the things that it kept asking me was, do you want me to come up with, like one, a one sentence prayer for you to start the morning? Oh, um, and it offered a one sentence prayer to end the evening. Um, almost a collect. And, uh, so it it really gives you several different ways of, of holding on to, uh, how to mortify, how to kill, uh, your sin.

Okay. This this brings up so many questions for me. Let's bottom line it and then we'll back up from there. Do you feel like you've gotten good content from I. That is biblically grounded? And how scary is that?

Okay. This this brings up so many questions for me. Let's bottom line it and then we'll back up from there. Do you feel like you've gotten good content from I. That is biblically grounded? And how scary is that?

Um, uh, great question. Do you always find great questions. Um, so is is it is it biblically sound? Which is why, uh, in your introduction, you read a bit of it, which is why I really emphasized the importance of, uh, being grounded in Western, uh, Protestant evangelical theology. Um, and you know that from the speaking that you're doing at this conference and you reference to in Romans six, Romans 12. Um, and so that's why I asked upfront for it to come, come back to me with content that has been filtered with that expectation. Uh, so, um, incredibly important. And thank you for acknowledging that. Now, is it frightening? Uh, yes. Yes. But, um, it is exciting, uh, as any new technology is, and it continues to evolve and grow and we learn more about it every day. Um, but, uh, it it is it can get out from under you pretty fast. And so I think I think we need to have respect for, uh, what it's, uh, what what it's giving us right now and how we're interacting with it, um, and, uh, and start working with it a little bit, uh, it becomes less so. But yes, it should be something that we respect and get a little fearful of.

Um, uh, great question. Do you always find great questions. Um, so is is it is it biblically sound? Which is why, uh, in your introduction, you read a bit of it, which is why I really emphasized the importance of, uh, being grounded in Western, uh, Protestant evangelical theology. Um, and you know that from the speaking that you're doing at this conference and you reference to in Romans six, Romans 12. Um, and so that's why I asked upfront for it to come, come back to me with content that has been filtered with that expectation. Uh, so, um, incredibly important. And thank you for acknowledging that. Now, is it frightening? Uh, yes. Yes. But, um, it is exciting, uh, as any new technology is, and it continues to evolve and grow and we learn more about it every day. Um, but, uh, it it is it can get out from under you pretty fast. And so I think I think we need to have respect for, uh, what it's, uh, what what it's giving us right now and how we're interacting with it, um, and, uh, and start working with it a little bit, uh, it becomes less so. But yes, it should be something that we respect and get a little fearful of.

Doctor Drew Dickens, I expert our guest right now. Coming up, let's dig a little deeper. They're going to probably be widely varying, uh, perspectives on whether this is a good thing or whether this is something you might be thinking right now. Christians need to stay far away from this. This sounds kind of spooky. Let's go there. Coming up.

Doctor Drew Dickens, I expert our guest right now. Coming up, let's dig a little deeper. They're going to probably be widely varying, uh, perspectives on whether this is a good thing or whether this is something you might be thinking right now. Christians need to stay far away from this. This sounds kind of spooky. Let's go there. Coming up.

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Can I help you kill sin? We're wrestling with that question with our special guest expert, doctor Drew Dickens. I'm sure you've found that people's perspective on even asking this kind of question probably there's probably a pretty wide gap, and it's probably not much in the middle. Uh, am I correct in my guess on that?

Can I help you kill sin? We're wrestling with that question with our special guest expert, doctor Drew Dickens. I'm sure you've found that people's perspective on even asking this kind of question probably there's probably a pretty wide gap, and it's probably not much in the middle. Uh, am I correct in my guess on that?

That's pretty polarizing.

That's pretty polarizing.

Yeah, it's very polarizing. Yes. Not a lot of people sitting on the fence on this. So it's either demonic or it's the you know, it's going to usher in the Second Coming. Uh, so yeah, it's, uh, it's very polarizing.

Yeah, it's very polarizing. Yes. Not a lot of people sitting on the fence on this. So it's either demonic or it's the you know, it's going to usher in the Second Coming. Uh, so yeah, it's, uh, it's very polarizing.

What's a healthy way for the Christ follower to, to even look at this kind of technology?

What's a healthy way for the Christ follower to, to even look at this kind of technology?

The word I always keep coming back to is discerning. Uh, you said you mentioned evil before we went to break. You know, uh, phones aren't inherently evil. The internet is not inherently evil. But there is evil there, right? So we have to be discerning when we're engaging with these devices. Uh, I is not inherently evil, but we need to be discerning as we as we, uh, spend time with it. And. And what? What is it doing to us? Uh, how are we engaging with it? Um, Carl, I know you're a big fan of grok. Uh, that AI model.

The word I always keep coming back to is discerning. Uh, you said you mentioned evil before we went to break. You know, uh, phones aren't inherently evil. The internet is not inherently evil. But there is evil there, right? So we have to be discerning when we're engaging with these devices. Uh, I is not inherently evil, but we need to be discerning as we as we, uh, spend time with it. And. And what? What is it doing to us? Uh, how are we engaging with it? Um, Carl, I know you're a big fan of grok. Uh, that AI model.

Yeah, I'm getting a little sore on it here lately, to be honest with you. In fact, I was going to ask you on air. What should I use? Because grok is. Grok is powerful, but it's getting a little, uh, how do I say it from a layman's perspective? It's getting a little far wide ranging on me right now.

Yeah, I'm getting a little sore on it here lately, to be honest with you. In fact, I was going to ask you on air. What should I use? Because grok is. Grok is powerful, but it's getting a little, uh, how do I say it from a layman's perspective? It's getting a little far wide ranging on me right now.

Yeah. It, uh, it's it's probably of all the different chat bots and language models, it's the one with the lowest, uh, guardrails. So it can, it can it can get pretty crazy, for sure. But they just came out, since you and I talked last with grok for correct ChatGPT, which is the largest one. Uh, they're about to release, I think, in the next couple of weeks, GPT five. So these things are always evolving. And so we have to continue to be, uh, discerning. Um, but as far as you asked earlier about, you know, should should Christians stay away from it? I think that ship has sailed. It is it is ubiquitous. It it is embedded in everything, uh, that we're doing, uh, digitally from from how we watch movies on Netflix to how we engage with Google. Um, AI is embedded in so much of what we're already doing. It's not a matter of staying away from it. I think it's just important that we're always discerning when we're engaging with it.

Yeah. It, uh, it's it's probably of all the different chat bots and language models, it's the one with the lowest, uh, guardrails. So it can, it can it can get pretty crazy, for sure. But they just came out, since you and I talked last with grok for correct ChatGPT, which is the largest one. Uh, they're about to release, I think, in the next couple of weeks, GPT five. So these things are always evolving. And so we have to continue to be, uh, discerning. Um, but as far as you asked earlier about, you know, should should Christians stay away from it? I think that ship has sailed. It is it is ubiquitous. It it is embedded in everything, uh, that we're doing, uh, digitally from from how we watch movies on Netflix to how we engage with Google. Um, AI is embedded in so much of what we're already doing. It's not a matter of staying away from it. I think it's just important that we're always discerning when we're engaging with it.

Yeah. For those just tuning in, Doctor Drew Dickens is our guest right now. He is an AI expert. I love to I love to rehearse. What happened with you seven years ago when you finished up your doctoral dissertation, you couldn't get a phone call on AI. And now the phone doesn't stop ringing. And that's how quickly it's evolved. That's just amazing. He queried. That's not the right word. Prompt is the right word. He entered some prompts for AI that begin with these words take on the role of my elite spiritual coach, rooted in evangelical Western Protestant theology and trained in spiritual direction, psychology and behavioral science. I'm seeking clarity around the theme of killing sin or sin mortification, which mortification means the humiliation of sin. What needs to begin, what needs to end, and what needs to be surrendered or strengthened? Did you get good content back?

Yeah. For those just tuning in, Doctor Drew Dickens is our guest right now. He is an AI expert. I love to I love to rehearse. What happened with you seven years ago when you finished up your doctoral dissertation, you couldn't get a phone call on AI. And now the phone doesn't stop ringing. And that's how quickly it's evolved. That's just amazing. He queried. That's not the right word. Prompt is the right word. He entered some prompts for AI that begin with these words take on the role of my elite spiritual coach, rooted in evangelical Western Protestant theology and trained in spiritual direction, psychology and behavioral science. I'm seeking clarity around the theme of killing sin or sin mortification, which mortification means the humiliation of sin. What needs to begin, what needs to end, and what needs to be surrendered or strengthened? Did you get good content back?

Uh, humbling. Uh, content? It the first time I, uh, answered these questions because I asked it to give me a series of 12 questions, um, one building on the other. And, um, and as it starts to ask me about my own journey of, of of killing sin in my life and mortification, the questions are, uh, hard, hard to read, um, because it gets to the, to the core of it, uh, very, very quickly. And one building on the other. It's like, okay, thank you for sharing that, drew. I know that was difficult. Um, let's expand on this. So everyone's journey is going to be different. Um, but I just love the output, though, of offering me, you know, a step by step plan. So here's a prayer in the morning. Um, one of the questions that asked me is, you know, who's the person closest to me spiritually? And it gets very specific about, you know, what? Within the next 24 hours, call him, meet him for coffee and say this. So, I mean, it gets very granular. Um, but then offering me, you know, offering me, uh, you know, prayers, uh, to, to go to sleep by and to wake up to all about, you know, killing sin. And so it was it was hard to read. Hard to read, um, but, uh, incredibly moving.

Uh, humbling. Uh, content? It the first time I, uh, answered these questions because I asked it to give me a series of 12 questions, um, one building on the other. And, um, and as it starts to ask me about my own journey of, of of killing sin in my life and mortification, the questions are, uh, hard, hard to read, um, because it gets to the, to the core of it, uh, very, very quickly. And one building on the other. It's like, okay, thank you for sharing that, drew. I know that was difficult. Um, let's expand on this. So everyone's journey is going to be different. Um, but I just love the output, though, of offering me, you know, a step by step plan. So here's a prayer in the morning. Um, one of the questions that asked me is, you know, who's the person closest to me spiritually? And it gets very specific about, you know, what? Within the next 24 hours, call him, meet him for coffee and say this. So, I mean, it gets very granular. Um, but then offering me, you know, offering me, uh, you know, prayers, uh, to, to go to sleep by and to wake up to all about, you know, killing sin. And so it was it was hard to read. Hard to read, um, but, uh, incredibly moving.

Drew, I'd love to hear one example of of a question that you were asked. You mentioned, uh, call a friend to talk to a friend in the next 24 hours, but what was your favorite? Or maybe not in the sense of it was enjoyable, but what was the most insightful question that you were asked by I.

Drew, I'd love to hear one example of of a question that you were asked. You mentioned, uh, call a friend to talk to a friend in the next 24 hours, but what was your favorite? Or maybe not in the sense of it was enjoyable, but what was the most insightful question that you were asked by I.

I don't have to tell you my answer to it, do I?

I don't have to tell you my answer to it, do I?

Nope. Just the question.

Nope. Just the question.

Uh, when do you most often slip into this? The first question was about my behavior. Uh, so the the follow up question I remember was, when do you most often slip into this behavior? What time of day, mood or situation tends to precede it? And I was like, wow, okay. So let me let me think about that. Um, what does that false persona. Because that's one of the things I, I think we all I, I struggle with is putting a mask on to so many different people. But what is that false persona give you that you think you're that, that your real self can't do? And just really deep questions one one building on the other. And uh, yeah, it was I was on the floor when it was, it was done.

Uh, when do you most often slip into this? The first question was about my behavior. Uh, so the the follow up question I remember was, when do you most often slip into this behavior? What time of day, mood or situation tends to precede it? And I was like, wow, okay. So let me let me think about that. Um, what does that false persona. Because that's one of the things I, I think we all I, I struggle with is putting a mask on to so many different people. But what is that false persona give you that you think you're that, that your real self can't do? And just really deep questions one one building on the other. And uh, yeah, it was I was on the floor when it was, it was done.

So here's what. Here's what strikes me. It seems that I has the courage to go where sometimes we won't go with our own friends.

So here's what. Here's what strikes me. It seems that I has the courage to go where sometimes we won't go with our own friends.

Yeah. Yes, yes. Amen. What do we.

Yeah. Yes, yes. Amen. What do we.

Do? What do we do with that? I mean, because the downside. Here's my initial thoughts. It has courage to to ask questions or interact with us in ways that we normally wouldn't with others. And yet it's not a person. So you're giving up this in the flesh relationship, seeing a person. How do you reconcile those two things?

Do? What do we do with that? I mean, because the downside. Here's my initial thoughts. It has courage to to ask questions or interact with us in ways that we normally wouldn't with others. And yet it's not a person. So you're giving up this in the flesh relationship, seeing a person. How do you reconcile those two things?

Well, we were designed to be in community. That's what the Trinity represents to us. We have a seat at the table with the father, son and Holy Spirit. So we're designed to engage. We're designed to do this. I mean, you're you're calling in from from up from upstate Michigan, uh, in Chicago, L.A., and I'm in Phoenix right now. We're designed to to do it this way, to engage with each other. And so we can't let go of that. But in Scripture, God has used what I mean. God's used a donkey. He's used writing on a wall. He's used the stones will cry out, uh, casting of lots and fleeces. So God will engage with inanimate objects, if you will, um, to communicate with us. And so that can be a tool that we use. But I always tell people, um, like, like these 12 questions and the answers, what I should be doing and I have done with this is now take that into community. So I want to share it with my friend, um, and have share it with my wife. Um, I don't want to do this in isolation. And so that that I think is the most important step in this is as we're engaging, um, bring it back into community, into a community of believers so we can walk through, uh, this, this response together.

Well, we were designed to be in community. That's what the Trinity represents to us. We have a seat at the table with the father, son and Holy Spirit. So we're designed to engage. We're designed to do this. I mean, you're you're calling in from from up from upstate Michigan, uh, in Chicago, L.A., and I'm in Phoenix right now. We're designed to to do it this way, to engage with each other. And so we can't let go of that. But in Scripture, God has used what I mean. God's used a donkey. He's used writing on a wall. He's used the stones will cry out, uh, casting of lots and fleeces. So God will engage with inanimate objects, if you will, um, to communicate with us. And so that can be a tool that we use. But I always tell people, um, like, like these 12 questions and the answers, what I should be doing and I have done with this is now take that into community. So I want to share it with my friend, um, and have share it with my wife. Um, I don't want to do this in isolation. And so that that I think is the most important step in this is as we're engaging, um, bring it back into community, into a community of believers so we can walk through, uh, this, this response together.

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Uh, one quick question before we let you go, drew. Uh, what is your opinion on this? The best age currently for bringing back content that is most trustworthy?

Uh, one quick question before we let you go, drew. Uh, what is your opinion on this? The best age currently for bringing back content that is most trustworthy?

Mhm. Well, I don't um I'm not representing any, any one company so I have no I have no relationship there.

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No dog in the.

No dog in the.

Hunt. I would, I would, I would say the, the, the, the largest most stable platform right now. Definitely the largest model uh, is uh, OpenAI, which is their ChatGPT. Um, we're most familiar with and somewhat ubiquitous. When people talk about I, I would I would say ChatGPT, they're about to come out in the next couple of weeks with their fifth version, ChatGPT five, which is going to be what I've already read about it, just mind bending on its capabilities. Um, there are different models that have different benefits, uh, depending upon how you're using it, but I would say overall, uh ChatGPT five would be the largest and most stable.

Hunt. I would, I would, I would say the, the, the, the largest most stable platform right now. Definitely the largest model uh, is uh, OpenAI, which is their ChatGPT. Um, we're most familiar with and somewhat ubiquitous. When people talk about I, I would I would say ChatGPT, they're about to come out in the next couple of weeks with their fifth version, ChatGPT five, which is going to be what I've already read about it, just mind bending on its capabilities. Um, there are different models that have different benefits, uh, depending upon how you're using it, but I would say overall, uh ChatGPT five would be the largest and most stable.

Excellent. Good content today, drew. My goodness. We could talk with you here for a couple hours. Uh, but I want you to get this link right now. Boom. Crew again. Text the word drew to 800 555, 7898. This is intriguing, and it'll get you on the front edge. Let's get you ahead of the curve. With regard to what's developing with AI, drew is a just a responsible Godward man, and he's going to really assist you in this, and you're going to have a heads up text drew to 800 555 55. 78. 98. Drew. Dickens. Thank you, my man, for being with us today. Wonderful content.

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Okay. We did not forget. Oh, no. Contraire, Pierre. We got it loaded and ready to rumble.

Okay. We did not forget. Oh, no. Contraire, Pierre. We got it loaded and ready to rumble.

Making herself laugh no matter who joins her. It's time for Ali thinks it's funny.

Making herself laugh no matter who joins her. It's time for Ali thinks it's funny.

Well, I've got a new driver in the house. Oh, yes. And one of the first things you need to learn as a new driver is that you stop at Red and you go on green, right? I mean, that's kind of driving 101, right? Exactly. Yeah. Well, under what circumstances do you go at Red and stop at green? This is part joke, part riddle. When do.

Well, I've got a new driver in the house. Oh, yes. And one of the first things you need to learn as a new driver is that you stop at Red and you go on green, right? I mean, that's kind of driving 101, right? Exactly. Yeah. Well, under what circumstances do you go at Red and stop at green? This is part joke, part riddle. When do.

We.

We.

Go at red and stop at green.

Go at red and stop at green.

I went on red when I was nearly attacked at a stoplight in downtown Chicago.

I went on red when I was nearly attacked at a stoplight in downtown Chicago.

Okay, that's not where I was going. Okay.

Okay, that's not where I was going. Okay.

Sorry about.

Sorry about.

That. I'm no help.

That. I'm no help.

No, I have no idea.

No, I have no idea.

You go at Red and you stop at green when you're eating a watermelon.

You go at Red and you stop at green when you're eating a watermelon.

That's really good.

That's really good.

I actually find that to be, like, a pretty clever riddle.

I actually find that to be, like, a pretty clever riddle.

That's so good.

That's so good.

You definitely want to stop at the green. Have you ever.

You definitely want to stop at the green. Have you ever.

So good. I can't even laugh.

So good. I can't even laugh.

Have you ever seen someone who eats the watermelon? Like, all the way down to, like.

Have you ever seen someone who eats the watermelon? Like, all the way down to, like.

Oh, I.

Oh, I.

Have, yes. Where they're like. Like they're almost at the green. It's like. No, no, no. Stop it! Green. Stop at green. Next stop.

Have, yes. Where they're like. Like they're almost at the green. It's like. No, no, no. Stop it! Green. Stop at green. Next stop.

I think the green I think, I think I think that's colon cleanse time there because that stuff is bitter.

I think the green I think, I think I think that's colon cleanse time there because that stuff is bitter.

I don't know. That's stick to the red. How did the pasta get locked out of his house? How did the pasta get locked out of his house? I don't know.

I don't know. That's stick to the red. How did the pasta get locked out of his house? How did the pasta get locked out of his house? I don't know.

I'm sorry. I'm getting. I'm getting a stomachache.

I'm sorry. I'm getting. I'm getting a stomachache.

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Oh, goodness sakes. Ali, you're too much.

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I know.

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I know.

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Oh, you know, Satan can pull one over our eyes. By the way, Carl and crew. Good to have you with us this morning. Helping you take that next step with Jesus. If Satan can pull one over our eyes, it's to misrepresent the character of God and even how God works, right? I mean, if he can get us to think that way, he's won the day. And there's a great deception out there, and it's a crazy one. In fact, you if you would have told me this, uh, when I was a young follower of Jesus, I said, nah, that can't be true of God. And we know that God is love, and we love to focus on that, right? God is love. Aren't we glad for the love of God that sent His Son to earth to die for us? He so loved us that he sent His Son and the love of God as seen in Jesus Christ. Jesus himself said, if you want to see the father, watch what I'm doing, because this is the heart of the father, which is another huge encouragement. But if you think about God's response to sin, I guess we would see this if we looked at it through the eyes of what's happened to us. Somebody sinned against us, really hurt us, really betrayed us, really got a we got a knife hanging out of our back, some incident happened, some grave injustice. And I think we would be pleased to find out that God hates that. But what about the sin that we battle in our own life? And what are we to do with it? What if I told you? See it, own it, hate it. Now the tendency is to go anywhere from coddle it, to rationalize it, to minimize it, to be somewhat grieved over it, pained over it. But do we often hate it? What would you say, Ali?

Oh, you know, Satan can pull one over our eyes. By the way, Carl and crew. Good to have you with us this morning. Helping you take that next step with Jesus. If Satan can pull one over our eyes, it's to misrepresent the character of God and even how God works, right? I mean, if he can get us to think that way, he's won the day. And there's a great deception out there, and it's a crazy one. In fact, you if you would have told me this, uh, when I was a young follower of Jesus, I said, nah, that can't be true of God. And we know that God is love, and we love to focus on that, right? God is love. Aren't we glad for the love of God that sent His Son to earth to die for us? He so loved us that he sent His Son and the love of God as seen in Jesus Christ. Jesus himself said, if you want to see the father, watch what I'm doing, because this is the heart of the father, which is another huge encouragement. But if you think about God's response to sin, I guess we would see this if we looked at it through the eyes of what's happened to us. Somebody sinned against us, really hurt us, really betrayed us, really got a we got a knife hanging out of our back, some incident happened, some grave injustice. And I think we would be pleased to find out that God hates that. But what about the sin that we battle in our own life? And what are we to do with it? What if I told you? See it, own it, hate it. Now the tendency is to go anywhere from coddle it, to rationalize it, to minimize it, to be somewhat grieved over it, pained over it. But do we often hate it? What would you say, Ali?

No, I mean Andrew Drew Dickens, who we just had on AI and spirituality. He mentioned that a lot of times our approach is oops, yep, don't want are probably probably don't want to do that again. And to kind of have a pretty light hearted approach, even if we're grieved over it, even if we feel bad about the things that we do, that we know that we should not, that miss the mark. It's kind of.

No, I mean Andrew Drew Dickens, who we just had on AI and spirituality. He mentioned that a lot of times our approach is oops, yep, don't want are probably probably don't want to do that again. And to kind of have a pretty light hearted approach, even if we're grieved over it, even if we feel bad about the things that we do, that we know that we should not, that miss the mark. It's kind of.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, you're right, Ali. And here's here's where twisted Grace comes into play. Grace becomes this safety net for sin. It's kind of like the net that we put underneath the trapeze artists, right? And it's like they slip. They fell. Oh, man, I've got that. Grace was never intended to be the safety net for our stupid people tricks. It just wasn't. It was always. Grace is not the permission to live as you like. With a rebound, to go do it again. It's the privilege to live as we never could before. Yeah, that's my dad's famous. Probably the most amazing quote he ever gave me on the grace of God. So the question is, what's the proper emotion for sin? And could it be you just haven't had the right emotion dealing with something in your life. You've had a what? Ali just repeated that. Drew said you've had a oops mentality rather than a I hate this thing in me mentality. Not you don't hate yourself, but hate the sin. I'll prove it to you biblically. Hang on.

Yeah, you're right, Ali. And here's here's where twisted Grace comes into play. Grace becomes this safety net for sin. It's kind of like the net that we put underneath the trapeze artists, right? And it's like they slip. They fell. Oh, man, I've got that. Grace was never intended to be the safety net for our stupid people tricks. It just wasn't. It was always. Grace is not the permission to live as you like. With a rebound, to go do it again. It's the privilege to live as we never could before. Yeah, that's my dad's famous. Probably the most amazing quote he ever gave me on the grace of God. So the question is, what's the proper emotion for sin? And could it be you just haven't had the right emotion dealing with something in your life. You've had a what? Ali just repeated that. Drew said you've had a oops mentality rather than a I hate this thing in me mentality. Not you don't hate yourself, but hate the sin. I'll prove it to you biblically. Hang on.

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Does God have feeling and emotions, Ali?

Does God have feeling and emotions, Ali?

Yes.

Yes.

Big time.

Big time.

And not just because there's that one verse, the shortest verse in the Bible. Jesus wept. That's what you were thinking, right?

And not just because there's that one verse, the shortest verse in the Bible. Jesus wept. That's what you were thinking, right?

Well, that's the. That's a good one. I mean, his weeping over hurting people and people that are hurting themselves. It's that's a beautiful thing. Uh, let me break it down for you. Here. Talk about emotion and the proper emotion. If you ask yourself the question, does God hate sin? The answer is clearly yes. We go to Proverbs six, listen to these verses. I'm going to read them to you. There are six things that the Lord hates seven that are an abomination to him haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood. A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. Now that can, we can get lost almost in Old English, if you will. It's kind of like poetry. So let me break these down. I put them in bullets here for you to make it really clear. And I want you to listen to these with some good common sense introspection. This is what he hates. Looking down on others as less than myself. Lying or shading the truth when it benefits me. Tearing people down in hopes of lifting myself up. Planning to take justice into my own hands. Running to godless things. To satisfy the worst in me. Spreading lies about others. To protect my image. Stirring vision to get people on my side. Oh, God hates those things. So no one can avoid those seven things. We're going to have touch points there in our life. There's no way to be sinlessly perfect, but the repetitive nature of sin, shame, repent, repeat, and stuck in a ditch is not God's will for our life. Now the question is what emotion do we have to have towards sin? It's one thing to say God hates it, but we find not only in Romans 813 for if you live according to the flesh, you're going to die. But if by the power of the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. We find this later on in Romans. Romans 12. This is what Paul says let love be genuine. He's talking about relations with others. And he says, abhor what is evil. Hold fast to what is good. Now, in my preparation for a writing I did on this, I did a deep dive to make sure I was being accurate. There is no theologian that does not agree with this statement. If you do not hate what is evil in your life, you cannot cling to what is good. Whoa, that's a powerful premise, isn't it?

Well, that's the. That's a good one. I mean, his weeping over hurting people and people that are hurting themselves. It's that's a beautiful thing. Uh, let me break it down for you. Here. Talk about emotion and the proper emotion. If you ask yourself the question, does God hate sin? The answer is clearly yes. We go to Proverbs six, listen to these verses. I'm going to read them to you. There are six things that the Lord hates seven that are an abomination to him haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood. A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. Now that can, we can get lost almost in Old English, if you will. It's kind of like poetry. So let me break these down. I put them in bullets here for you to make it really clear. And I want you to listen to these with some good common sense introspection. This is what he hates. Looking down on others as less than myself. Lying or shading the truth when it benefits me. Tearing people down in hopes of lifting myself up. Planning to take justice into my own hands. Running to godless things. To satisfy the worst in me. Spreading lies about others. To protect my image. Stirring vision to get people on my side. Oh, God hates those things. So no one can avoid those seven things. We're going to have touch points there in our life. There's no way to be sinlessly perfect, but the repetitive nature of sin, shame, repent, repeat, and stuck in a ditch is not God's will for our life. Now the question is what emotion do we have to have towards sin? It's one thing to say God hates it, but we find not only in Romans 813 for if you live according to the flesh, you're going to die. But if by the power of the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. We find this later on in Romans. Romans 12. This is what Paul says let love be genuine. He's talking about relations with others. And he says, abhor what is evil. Hold fast to what is good. Now, in my preparation for a writing I did on this, I did a deep dive to make sure I was being accurate. There is no theologian that does not agree with this statement. If you do not hate what is evil in your life, you cannot cling to what is good. Whoa, that's a powerful premise, isn't it?

It is.

It is.

We have to have the proper emotion around sin in our life. Now, this is where I want you to be careful. Don't hate yourself, but hate the sin that has got its clutches on you. I don't care what it is. I don't care if it's porn, food, alcohol, horrible time management. The you. You got it in the spirit of God's filling in the blanks, having the proper emotion, not a oops mentality or a oh God's grace. Don't twist the grace, get some hatred and then we can take those next steps. Having that proper emotion is the perfect starting place.

We have to have the proper emotion around sin in our life. Now, this is where I want you to be careful. Don't hate yourself, but hate the sin that has got its clutches on you. I don't care what it is. I don't care if it's porn, food, alcohol, horrible time management. The you. You got it in the spirit of God's filling in the blanks, having the proper emotion, not a oops mentality or a oh God's grace. Don't twist the grace, get some hatred and then we can take those next steps. Having that proper emotion is the perfect starting place.

You know I love this. And if you want more on this topic, I want to mention this book, Killing Sin. Carl has written an entire book on it that came out this year. Just text the word conquer and I'd be happy to send you the details there. Text conquer to 800 555 7898. If you want to do a deeper dive on this, just text conquer to 855 five 7898. Conquer to 800 555 7898.

You know I love this. And if you want more on this topic, I want to mention this book, Killing Sin. Carl has written an entire book on it that came out this year. Just text the word conquer and I'd be happy to send you the details there. Text conquer to 800 555 7898. If you want to do a deeper dive on this, just text conquer to 855 five 7898. Conquer to 800 555 7898.

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Does God have feeling and emotions? Ali?

Does God have feeling and emotions? Ali?

Yes.

Yes.

Big time.

Big time.

And not just because there's that one verse, the shortest verse in the Bible. Jesus wept. That's what you were thinking, right?

And not just because there's that one verse, the shortest verse in the Bible. Jesus wept. That's what you were thinking, right?

Well, that's the that's a good one. I mean, his weeping over hurting people and people that are hurting themselves. It's. That's a beautiful thing. Uh, let me break it down for you here. Talk about emotion and the proper emotion. If you ask yourself the question, does God hate sin? The answer is clearly yes. We go to Proverbs six, listen to these verses. I'm going to read them to you. There are six things that the Lord hates seven that are an abomination to him haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood. A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. Now that can, we can get lost almost in Old English, if you will. It's kind of like poetry. So let me break these down. I put them in bullets here for you to make it really clear. And I want you to listen to these with some good common sense introspection. This is what he hates. Looking down on others as less than myself. Lying or shading the truth when it benefits me. Tearing people down in hopes of lifting myself up. Planning to take justice into my own hands. Running to godless things. To satisfy the worst in me. Spreading lies about others. To protect my image. Stirring vision to get people on my side. Oh, God hates those things. So no one can avoid those seven things. We're going to have touch points there in our life. There's no way to be sinlessly perfect. But the repetitive nature of sin, shame, repent, repeat, and stuck in a ditch is not God's will for our life. Now the question is what emotion do we have to have toward sin? It's one thing to say God hates it, but we find not only in Romans 813 for if you live according to the flesh, you are going to die. But if by the power of the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. We find this later on in Romans, Romans 12. This is what Paul says let love be genuine. He's talking about relations with others, and he says, abhor what is evil. Hold fast to what is good. Now, in my preparation for a writing I did on this, I did a deep dive to make sure I was being accurate. There is no theologian that does not agree with this statement. If you do not hate what is evil in your life, you cannot cling to what is good. Whoa, that's powerful premise, isn't it?

Well, that's the that's a good one. I mean, his weeping over hurting people and people that are hurting themselves. It's. That's a beautiful thing. Uh, let me break it down for you here. Talk about emotion and the proper emotion. If you ask yourself the question, does God hate sin? The answer is clearly yes. We go to Proverbs six, listen to these verses. I'm going to read them to you. There are six things that the Lord hates seven that are an abomination to him haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood. A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. Now that can, we can get lost almost in Old English, if you will. It's kind of like poetry. So let me break these down. I put them in bullets here for you to make it really clear. And I want you to listen to these with some good common sense introspection. This is what he hates. Looking down on others as less than myself. Lying or shading the truth when it benefits me. Tearing people down in hopes of lifting myself up. Planning to take justice into my own hands. Running to godless things. To satisfy the worst in me. Spreading lies about others. To protect my image. Stirring vision to get people on my side. Oh, God hates those things. So no one can avoid those seven things. We're going to have touch points there in our life. There's no way to be sinlessly perfect. But the repetitive nature of sin, shame, repent, repeat, and stuck in a ditch is not God's will for our life. Now the question is what emotion do we have to have toward sin? It's one thing to say God hates it, but we find not only in Romans 813 for if you live according to the flesh, you are going to die. But if by the power of the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. We find this later on in Romans, Romans 12. This is what Paul says let love be genuine. He's talking about relations with others, and he says, abhor what is evil. Hold fast to what is good. Now, in my preparation for a writing I did on this, I did a deep dive to make sure I was being accurate. There is no theologian that does not agree with this statement. If you do not hate what is evil in your life, you cannot cling to what is good. Whoa, that's powerful premise, isn't it?

It is.

It is.

We have to have the proper emotion around sin in our life. Now, this is where I want you to be careful. Don't hate yourself, but hate the sin that has got its clutches on you. I don't care what it is. I don't care if it's porn, food, alcohol, horrible time management. The You. You got it. In the spirit of God's filling in the blanks, having the proper emotion, not a oops mentality or a oh, God's grace. Don't twist the grace. Get some hatred and then we can take those next steps. Having that proper emotion is the perfect starting place.

We have to have the proper emotion around sin in our life. Now, this is where I want you to be careful. Don't hate yourself, but hate the sin that has got its clutches on you. I don't care what it is. I don't care if it's porn, food, alcohol, horrible time management. The You. You got it. In the spirit of God's filling in the blanks, having the proper emotion, not a oops mentality or a oh, God's grace. Don't twist the grace. Get some hatred and then we can take those next steps. Having that proper emotion is the perfect starting place.

You know I love this. And if you want more on this topic, I want to mention this book. Uh, Killing Sin has written an entire book on it that came out this year. Just text the word conquer and I'd be happy to send you the details there. Text conquer to 800 555 7898. If you want to do a deeper dive on this, just text conquer to 800 555 7898. Conquer to 800 555 7898.

You know I love this. And if you want more on this topic, I want to mention this book. Uh, Killing Sin has written an entire book on it that came out this year. Just text the word conquer and I'd be happy to send you the details there. Text conquer to 800 555 7898. If you want to do a deeper dive on this, just text conquer to 800 555 7898. Conquer to 800 555 7898.

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It is the best news ever. This is Carl and crew, and I'm broadcasting from Maranatha. It's a great camp in Michigan, and if you want a place to land with your family. Boy, have I found it. This is epic. This is a phenomenal camp. I'm speaking here on evening sessions to men, women, and probably high schoolers. I would guess a lot of college kids. And they come here for some time, some years, like ten, 20 years in a row.

It is the best news ever. This is Carl and crew, and I'm broadcasting from Maranatha. It's a great camp in Michigan, and if you want a place to land with your family. Boy, have I found it. This is epic. This is a phenomenal camp. I'm speaking here on evening sessions to men, women, and probably high schoolers. I would guess a lot of college kids. And they come here for some time, some years, like ten, 20 years in a row.

Oh, that's so fun. Have you gotten out to do any camp things during the day? Like I'm looking at the website. It looks like they've got pool and beach and zipline and ropes course. Have you done anything fun?

Oh, that's so fun. Have you gotten out to do any camp things during the day? Like I'm looking at the website. It looks like they've got pool and beach and zipline and ropes course. Have you done anything fun?

No, but I hope to. I've been going, man. Between prepping for the show and.

No, but I hope to. I've been going, man. Between prepping for the show and.

Prepping for evening sessions, I've.

Prepping for evening sessions, I've.

Had a full day.

Had a full day.

But.

But.

It's beautiful. I've taken some walks down to the beach though, because I'm trying to get in my steps. You know, you got to get those steps in.

It's beautiful. I've taken some walks down to the beach though, because I'm trying to get in my steps. You know, you got to get those steps in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And how you'd be proud of me. I've been staying hydrated. My wife gave me.

And how you'd be proud of me. I've been staying hydrated. My wife gave me.

Strict, strict instructions. Stay hydrated, young man.

Strict, strict instructions. Stay hydrated, young man.

I mean, you're speaking at night and then still getting up early for morning radio, so hydration is important. Getting good rest is important.

I mean, you're speaking at night and then still getting up early for morning radio, so hydration is important. Getting good rest is important.

It is, but it's its great joy. Boom! I got to tell you, we love you so much. We are so grateful for the opportunity to come to you in the mornings and help you take your next step with Jesus, and today I'm actually taking content. We're using it evenings and mornings here on the show, and we're talking about the need to put to death the deeds of the flesh comes right out of Romans eight, but it's not just in Romans 813. Jesus said it if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. Now it's hyperbole. Obviously, if you got an issue with lust of the eyes, you don't gouge one out. It's hyperbole, but it's hyperbole for a reason. Jesus gives us clear instructions. Take extreme measures to knock out with a knock out. Punch those things that are killing you. And if we take that seriously, I think we're going to get victory. And I know we're going to get victory in our lives like we haven't imagined. Quick question, Ali. Why have we had an oops approach to sin rather than a. Now I want to put this to death by the power of the Holy Spirit.

It is, but it's its great joy. Boom! I got to tell you, we love you so much. We are so grateful for the opportunity to come to you in the mornings and help you take your next step with Jesus, and today I'm actually taking content. We're using it evenings and mornings here on the show, and we're talking about the need to put to death the deeds of the flesh comes right out of Romans eight, but it's not just in Romans 813. Jesus said it if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. Now it's hyperbole. Obviously, if you got an issue with lust of the eyes, you don't gouge one out. It's hyperbole, but it's hyperbole for a reason. Jesus gives us clear instructions. Take extreme measures to knock out with a knock out. Punch those things that are killing you. And if we take that seriously, I think we're going to get victory. And I know we're going to get victory in our lives like we haven't imagined. Quick question, Ali. Why have we had an oops approach to sin rather than a. Now I want to put this to death by the power of the Holy Spirit.

A couple of reasons, I think. First is what we've already touched upon is the, um, kind of the misuse of grace, the which is it is absolutely true that God offers us forgiveness, that the grace of God it meets us when we fail. But I think we've used that as an opportunity to not get back up into victory, but to kind of keep falling back into the same pattern. And then I, I think the second thing is that we don't look to Scripture. Sometimes we look to common experience in terms of what's normal. So it seems kind of normal. People struggle with things. You know, we've all kind of got our hang ups and, you know, your thing is your thing. And then I got my thing and it seems so normal to persistently struggle with sin that I don't think we're as highly motivated because we're not necessarily looking to Scripture for our cues when it comes to that boom.

A couple of reasons, I think. First is what we've already touched upon is the, um, kind of the misuse of grace, the which is it is absolutely true that God offers us forgiveness, that the grace of God it meets us when we fail. But I think we've used that as an opportunity to not get back up into victory, but to kind of keep falling back into the same pattern. And then I, I think the second thing is that we don't look to Scripture. Sometimes we look to common experience in terms of what's normal. So it seems kind of normal. People struggle with things. You know, we've all kind of got our hang ups and, you know, your thing is your thing. And then I got my thing and it seems so normal to persistently struggle with sin that I don't think we're as highly motivated because we're not necessarily looking to Scripture for our cues when it comes to that boom.

This comparison thing is huge. And the notion that, well, everybody's got something.

This comparison thing is huge. And the notion that, well, everybody's got something.

Everybody's got something, and mine's not that bad in the, you know, in the whole scheme of things you could struggle with.

Everybody's got something, and mine's not that bad in the, you know, in the whole scheme of things you could struggle with.

And then we look at Romans seven and we look at Paul and it's a phenomenal passage. He says, foolish man, that I am that which I want to do. I don't do that which I do, I don't want to do. Who will rescue me from this body of sin and death? And we almost see that as a proof text for okay, Paul battled this, do I? I'm okay. No, you got to read on verse 25 in Romans seven is thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord, who gives me victory over this stuff. Yeah. So summer months can be intense for missing the mark. That's the real definition of sin. It's the gap between hitting the bullseye and the miss of. It was an archery term, spear chucking term. And it was where that spear or that arrow hit on that target, that distance between perfection and miss, where you hit, that's the sin. That's the distance between those two. And when it comes to summer months, it can it can be costly practically, financially. And the question is, when we're heading into the dog days of summer, what sins do we need to be aware of when it comes to finances, and what can we do about them? Boy, have we got one of our faves coming up here, Ali.