Today, on Karl and Crew, we continue our weekly theme, “Hope Rising,” with conversations about how we find hope in every aspect of life. Today, we focused on suffering, specifically Romans 5:1–5. Susie Larson joined us to discuss how God uses suffering to build character, why it is part of the Christian life, and the difference between holy lament and dark sorrow. Susie is the host of “Susie Larson Live,” a national speaker, and a bestselling author. We then had Abdu Murray join us to discuss his journey from Islam to Christianity, what it cost him, and what makes Christianity fundamentally different from every other religion. Abdu is a speaker, author, and attorney who addresses issues where religious faith and emerging cultural trends intersect. He is the President of Embrace the Truth. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “What character did God produce in you through suffering that gives you hope?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:
Susie Larson [ 37:39 ]
Abdu Murray [ 06:39 ]
Caller Segment [ 21:39 ]

Today, on Karl and Crew, we continue our weekly theme, &ldquo;Hope Rising,&rdquo; with conversations about how we find hope in every aspect of life. Today, we focused on suffering, specifically Romans 5:1&ndash;5. <a href="https://www.susielarson.com/">Susie Larson</a> joined us to discuss how God uses suffering to build character, why it is part of the Christian life, and the difference between holy lament and dark sorrow. Susie is the host of &ldquo;Susie Larson Live,&rdquo; a national speaker, and a bestselling author. We then had Abdu Murray join us to discuss his journey from Islam to Christianity, what it cost him, and what makes Christianity fundamentally different from every other religion. Abdu is a speaker, author, and attorney who addresses issues where religious faith and emerging cultural trends intersect. He is the President of <a href="https://embracethetruth.org/">Embrace the Truth</a>. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, &ldquo;What character did God produce in you through suffering that gives you hope?&rdquo; You can hear the highlights of today&rsquo;s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.
If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Susie Larson [ 37:39 ] Abdu Murray [ 06:39 ] Caller Segment [ 21:39 ]

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Embracing the Truth with Abdu Murray & Waking up to the Goodness of Christ with Susie Larson

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