Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “It's Complicated!” filled with amazing stories! Matthew and Daniel Kooman, filmmaker of “Daniel and the Fiery Furnace” and co-founders of “Scripture to Screen,” shared how they brought Daniel and the Fiery Furnace to the big screen and how prayer, humility, and dependence on God guided them throughout the filmmaking process. Dr. Gerald Peterman, Professor of Bible at the Moody Bible Institute and author of “Joy and Tears” and “Between Pain and Grace,” explained the difference between pain and suffering and how believers can experience difficult emotions while still living with the joy and hope found in Christ. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following timestamps:
Devotional [ 00:49 ]
Dr. Gerald Peterman [ 22:15 ]
Matthew and Daniel Kooman [ 44:48 ]

Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, &ldquo;It's Complicated!&rdquo; filled with amazing stories! Matthew and Daniel Kooman, filmmaker of &ldquo;<a href="https://unveiltv.com/pages/invest">Daniel and the Fiery Furnace</a>&rdquo; and co-founders of &ldquo;<a href="https://scripturetoscreen.com/about">Scripture to Screen</a>,&rdquo; shared how they brought Daniel and the Fiery Furnace to the big screen and how prayer, humility, and dependence on God guided them throughout the filmmaking process. Dr. Gerald Peterman, Professor of Bible at the Moody Bible Institute and author of &ldquo;Joy and Tears&rdquo; and &ldquo;Between Pain and Grace,&rdquo; explained the difference between pain and suffering and how believers can experience difficult emotions while still living with the joy and hope found in Christ. You can hear the highlights of today&rsquo;s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.
If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following timestamps: Devotional [ 00:49 ] Dr. Gerald Peterman [ 22:15 ] Matthew and Daniel Kooman [ 44:48 ]

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A Biblical Theology of Suffering with Dr. Gerald Peterman & The Making of “Daniel and the Fiery Furnace” with Matthew & Daniel Kooman

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