Today after the show, Johnjay discovers another VAN ES in his spam email and wants to crack down on the possibility of them both being related to each other, however, Howard Van Es isn't taking the bait.

<p>Today after the show, Johnjay discovers another VAN ES in his spam email and wants to crack down on the possibility of them both being related to each other, however, Howard Van Es isn't taking the bait.</p>

What happens when the mics go off and there's no one listening? THIS PODCAST! Listen to the Johnjay & Rich after show where they tell stories they couldn't get to or topics just not meant for radio!