The Vanishing Church: How the hollowing out of moderate congregations is hurting democracy, faith, & Us (new book soon to be released)… GUEST Dr Ryan P Burge … Prof of Practice at Washington Univ in St Louis at the John C Danforth Center on Religion & Politics … author of “20 Myths about Religion and Politics in America,””The Nones: Where They Came From, Who They Are, and Where They Are Going,” and co-author of “The Great Dechurching: Who’s Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back?”… His newest book is “The American Religious Landscape: Facts, Trends & the Future” … substack: Graphs About Religion and he tweets at @ryanburge.

Gov of NY signs assisted suicide bill … GUEST Dr Charles Camosy … Prof at the Catholic Univ of America in the nation’s capitol … Charlie taught at the Creighton Univ School of Medicine and in Fordham Univ’s theology department, & is author of “Beyond the Abortion Wars,” and “Resisting Throwaway Culture” … his most recent book is “Living and Dying Well: A Catholic Plan for Resisting Physician-Assisted Killing” … Charlie advises the Faith Outreach office of the Humane Society of the US & the pro-life commission of the Archdiocese of NY.