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I'm Phil Schuman, sitting in for John Cobelt with you from one to four this afternoon. Always a fun afternoon, although we're talking about some very serious, deadly serious topics today. Hate to bring you down as we head into the beginning of the New year. Spectacular sunny day here in southern California. This is what we love about it, right, but of course dominating the news the situation in New Orleans, the aftermath of that terrible terrorist attack, and then the same time the explosion outside the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. The latest is that the investigators are saying they are not related. We're going to get into those in a detailed way this afternoon. We'll have live reports from New Orleans, from Vegas. We're going to talk with law enforcement experts, and not just to get the latest on the news, because you can do that anywhere.

I'm Phil Schuman, sitting in for John Cobelt with you from one to four this afternoon. Always a fun afternoon, although we're talking about some very serious, deadly serious topics today. Hate to bring you down as we head into the beginning of the New year. Spectacular sunny day here in southern California. This is what we love about it, right, but of course dominating the news the situation in New Orleans, the aftermath of that terrible terrorist attack, and then the same time the explosion outside the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. The latest is that the investigators are saying they are not related. We're going to get into those in a detailed way this afternoon. We'll have live reports from New Orleans, from Vegas. We're going to talk with law enforcement experts, and not just to get the latest on the news, because you can do that anywhere.

But what I'm trying to do.

But what I'm trying to do.

What we're trying to do is help you understand what's going on here and try to answer the questions, are we safe, how do we stay safe? What can we do to make us safer? So a lot to think about over the next few hours. Please stay with us, but first we want to go get an update on both the New Orleans and the Las Vegas investigations from Olivia Rubin, an ABC News investigative reporter who joins us Live now.

What we're trying to do is help you understand what's going on here and try to answer the questions, are we safe, how do we stay safe? What can we do to make us safer? So a lot to think about over the next few hours. Please stay with us, but first we want to go get an update on both the New Orleans and the Las Vegas investigations from Olivia Rubin, an ABC News investigative reporter who joins us Live now.

Olivia, Hey pal, thanks so much for having me. Most important to know right now.

Olivia, Hey pal, thanks so much for having me. Most important to know right now.

Investigators in New Orleans today saying that they do not believe that that suspects who ram down people on Bourbon Avenue acted with anyone else there, saying it was a lone attack. There had been some thoughts that perhaps maybe there were others who had helped him give in their surveillance video that showed others interacting with the cooler that contained an ied that had been placed before that ramming attack. That investigators today are now saying they were just passerby, not anyone involved with the attack, and that it was the suspect himself who had placed two IEDs before the attack, changed his clothes and then rammed down those poor individuals on Bourbon Street, and they found that change of clothes inside of his vehicle. They are also emphasizing that they believe the attack was one hundred percent inspired by ISIS. Remember they had said there was an ISIS flag inside of the vehicle, and now they are saying that that suspect, as he traveled to New Orleans from Texas, where he was located, had posted five videos to.

Investigators in New Orleans today saying that they do not believe that that suspects who ram down people on Bourbon Avenue acted with anyone else there, saying it was a lone attack. There had been some thoughts that perhaps maybe there were others who had helped him give in their surveillance video that showed others interacting with the cooler that contained an ied that had been placed before that ramming attack. That investigators today are now saying they were just passerby, not anyone involved with the attack, and that it was the suspect himself who had placed two IEDs before the attack, changed his clothes and then rammed down those poor individuals on Bourbon Street, and they found that change of clothes inside of his vehicle. They are also emphasizing that they believe the attack was one hundred percent inspired by ISIS. Remember they had said there was an ISIS flag inside of the vehicle, and now they are saying that that suspect, as he traveled to New Orleans from Texas, where he was located, had posted five videos to.

Facebook in the wee hours of the night, in one.

Facebook in the wee hours of the night, in one.

Of them saying that he had joined ISIS just before the summer, so providing some more sort of insight into that. Tragically, he said in those videos, if I could just add one more thing, that he originally was going to harm his family or friends. That was his original plan, but he didn't think it would send the right political message.

Of them saying that he had joined ISIS just before the summer, so providing some more sort of insight into that. Tragically, he said in those videos, if I could just add one more thing, that he originally was going to harm his family or friends. That was his original plan, but he didn't think it would send the right political message.

He was looking to convey that.

He was looking to convey that.

The news headlines wouldn't focus on, quote, the war between the believers and the disbelievers. So still digging in there on that, but just some more details around it.

The news headlines wouldn't focus on, quote, the war between the believers and the disbelievers. So still digging in there on that, but just some more details around it.

So we're talking live with Olivia Rubin from the ABC News on the twin attacks. If you could call it that, well, certainly could call the New Orleans an attack. The Las Vegas was a bombing. They're saying they're not related, so you know, to say he was acting alone and then to say that the New Orleans attack and the Las Vegas bombing are not related. Is that somehow supposed to make us feel better? Is that just important information? I mean, why do they keep stressing those things?

So we're talking live with Olivia Rubin from the ABC News on the twin attacks. If you could call it that, well, certainly could call the New Orleans an attack. The Las Vegas was a bombing. They're saying they're not related, so you know, to say he was acting alone and then to say that the New Orleans attack and the Las Vegas bombing are not related. Is that somehow supposed to make us feel better? Is that just important information? I mean, why do they keep stressing those things?

Well, it's important as part of the investigation.

Well, it's important as part of the investigation.

You know, was there a coordinated attack in multiple cities by multiple people. It helped to understand what exactly happened here, and I think, you know, in terms of the Vegas event specifically, there's still a lot more to understand. Investiators still don't have the motive there. That's what they said at a briefing today that they're still looking to understand why this.

You know, was there a coordinated attack in multiple cities by multiple people. It helped to understand what exactly happened here, and I think, you know, in terms of the Vegas event specifically, there's still a lot more to understand. Investiators still don't have the motive there. That's what they said at a briefing today that they're still looking to understand why this.

Individual did this.

Individual did this.

You know, they acknowledged the timing, it's the same day as what happened in New Orleans. They acknowledged the location a Trump hotel, you know, he's president like Trump is advised by Elon Musk.

You know, they acknowledged the timing, it's the same day as what happened in New Orleans. They acknowledged the location a Trump hotel, you know, he's president like Trump is advised by Elon Musk.

This was a cyber truck.

This was a cyber truck.

So you know, that's all things that they're keenly aware of, and so they're trying to piece.

So you know, that's all things that they're keenly aware of, and so they're trying to piece.

Together exactly what happened.

Together exactly what happened.

But officials in both locations are stressing that there is no ongoing threat to the public by saying he acted alone. If he hadn't acted alone where there's still a sailance out on the loose, so they believe they have their men here and they're just trying to figure out more of what happened.

But officials in both locations are stressing that there is no ongoing threat to the public by saying he acted alone. If he hadn't acted alone where there's still a sailance out on the loose, so they believe they have their men here and they're just trying to figure out more of what happened.

But they are stressing the public is safe, yeah.

But they are stressing the public is safe, yeah.

Until we're not.

Until we're not.

And then of course looking at New Orleans specifically, they postponed the Sugar Bowl tonight till tonight from last night, which seemed like it was an obvious thing to do. While that took them some time to do it, some people have felt that it should be moved out of New Orleans altogether.

And then of course looking at New Orleans specifically, they postponed the Sugar Bowl tonight till tonight from last night, which seemed like it was an obvious thing to do. While that took them some time to do it, some people have felt that it should be moved out of New Orleans altogether.

I mean, we're talking to one hundred thousand people or so.

I mean, we're talking to one hundred thousand people or so.

And then of course, coming up February ninth, the Super Bowl in New Orleans. So, as you mentioned, and we were still on the very early stages of all this, but there seems like so many unanswered questions. In particular, did the security apparatus somehow fail or do something wrong.

And then of course, coming up February ninth, the Super Bowl in New Orleans. So, as you mentioned, and we were still on the very early stages of all this, but there seems like so many unanswered questions. In particular, did the security apparatus somehow fail or do something wrong.

We've heard about the ballards.

We've heard about the ballards.

Which is a term that we've unfortunately become familiar with, the steel posts to prevent truck car attacks being removed.

Which is a term that we've unfortunately become familiar with, the steel posts to prevent truck car attacks being removed.

There was a police car blocking the road.

There was a police car blocking the road.

I mean, if you look at the diagram which is available online, there's lots of access points to Bourbon Street. It wasn't just you know, take one police car block the end of a road and you're done. So that's down the road to come. I guess the questions now are more are we safe? Are their ongoing threats? Which the I guess the answer for that for right now seems.

I mean, if you look at the diagram which is available online, there's lots of access points to Bourbon Street. It wasn't just you know, take one police car block the end of a road and you're done. So that's down the road to come. I guess the questions now are more are we safe? Are their ongoing threats? Which the I guess the answer for that for right now seems.

To be no, exactly.

To be no, exactly.

And you know, again officials in both locations saying there is no ongoing thread and the public is safe. I think that's part of the reason. They were likely emphasizing that they believe he acted alone and that there aren't you know, potential co conspirators out there who they are still searching for. So I think that's part of that emphasis on why it's so important to understand why he acted alone. But you're absolutely right there there will come a.

And you know, again officials in both locations saying there is no ongoing thread and the public is safe. I think that's part of the reason. They were likely emphasizing that they believe he acted alone and that there aren't you know, potential co conspirators out there who they are still searching for. So I think that's part of that emphasis on why it's so important to understand why he acted alone. But you're absolutely right there there will come a.

Time about how did this happen.

Time about how did this happen.

You mentioned the ballers, you know, they were in the process of being replaced. There was a police car, you know, blocking Bourbon Street, and the suspect was able to drive up onto the sidewalk and around and down the street. So of course you mentioned, you know, the Super Bowl coming up, there will be plenty of questions about how they are continuing to keep that city safe.

You mentioned the ballers, you know, they were in the process of being replaced. There was a police car, you know, blocking Bourbon Street, and the suspect was able to drive up onto the sidewalk and around and down the street. So of course you mentioned, you know, the Super Bowl coming up, there will be plenty of questions about how they are continuing to keep that city safe.

Well, I can only imagine what's going to happen as the Super Bowl approaches. They already classify those that I believe it's called a Tier one national security event. I mean, I've been to super Bowls. You've probably been to super Bowls. It's similar to a political convention. I mean, the security is just taken to the to the highest possible level. And I'm sure there'll be even more restrictions and closures over the next few weeks as we get ready for the super Bowl.

Well, I can only imagine what's going to happen as the Super Bowl approaches. They already classify those that I believe it's called a Tier one national security event. I mean, I've been to super Bowls. You've probably been to super Bowls. It's similar to a political convention. I mean, the security is just taken to the to the highest possible level. And I'm sure there'll be even more restrictions and closures over the next few weeks as we get ready for the super Bowl.

You would have to.

You would have to.

Think, and you know, even where I am here in Washington, d C.

Think, and you know, even where I am here in Washington, d C.

They're getting ready for more high profile events.

They're getting ready for more high profile events.

The inauguration sure is in January twentieth th Streets are already starting to be closed down.

The inauguration sure is in January twentieth th Streets are already starting to be closed down.

There's already a heightened security posture. So it's certainly this factoring into all of that.

There's already a heightened security posture. So it's certainly this factoring into all of that.

Yeah, it just makes for a very unsettling time, right. I Mean, we're in the news business, so we deal with these kinds of things on a daily basis. But for the average person who's looking forward to twenty twenty five and celebrating Christmas and Hanukkah and Kwanza and the New Year, It's like, whoa what kind of world are we living in? Where this you know, this suspect, in particular, the New Orleans one, feels like he has to you know, here's a quote forbidding the evil is a mandate on all of mankind, one of his postings online. So it's just a very tough time to start the new year to at the risk of skating the.

Yeah, it just makes for a very unsettling time, right. I Mean, we're in the news business, so we deal with these kinds of things on a daily basis. But for the average person who's looking forward to twenty twenty five and celebrating Christmas and Hanukkah and Kwanza and the New Year, It's like, whoa what kind of world are we living in? Where this you know, this suspect, in particular, the New Orleans one, feels like he has to you know, here's a quote forbidding the evil is a mandate on all of mankind, one of his postings online. So it's just a very tough time to start the new year to at the risk of skating the.

Obvious, absolutely, and I think that's why one of the biggest questions also is, you know, how did this individual become radicalized? And that's certainly some of the investigators have indicated that they are continuing to dig into exactly how this happened, right, you know, how do you have an American citizen, you know, born and raised here who then becomes.

Obvious, absolutely, and I think that's why one of the biggest questions also is, you know, how did this individual become radicalized? And that's certainly some of the investigators have indicated that they are continuing to dig into exactly how this happened, right, you know, how do you have an American citizen, you know, born and raised here who then becomes.

A supporter of ISIS on our own.

A supporter of ISIS on our own.

Soil, he was a soldier.

Soil, he was a soldier.

Certainly, all assects, right, certainly, all aspects that they're digging into.

Certainly, all assects, right, certainly, all aspects that they're digging into.

All right, Well, Olivia Rubin from ABC News, appreciate you've given us the latest on this, the sort of twin headlines that continue to reverberate and raise so many questions and make so many people afraid of you know, what it's like going forward? Into twenty twenty five. We'll let you get back to work. Thanks for your time. I'm Phil shooting in for John Cobelt today. We have a big afternoon planned. We're going to talk about these kinds of terrorists threats. Could it happen here? It's already happened here. I mean we know the answer to that. And then what type of organizations people, man power and I use that term quotes manpower, women power is being deployed here in southern California on a twenty four to seven basis to keep us safe. And then remember the old phrase like if you see something, say something, it's almost like something that you sort of raise your eyebrows at and say, really, is that the best you got? But that kind of is the best you got. And the case of these attacks, or at least the one in New Orleans, it seems like he was playing saying plenty both online and to his family and friends, and looks like nobody said anything.

All right, Well, Olivia Rubin from ABC News, appreciate you've given us the latest on this, the sort of twin headlines that continue to reverberate and raise so many questions and make so many people afraid of you know, what it's like going forward? Into twenty twenty five. We'll let you get back to work. Thanks for your time. I'm Phil shooting in for John Cobelt today. We have a big afternoon planned. We're going to talk about these kinds of terrorists threats. Could it happen here? It's already happened here. I mean we know the answer to that. And then what type of organizations people, man power and I use that term quotes manpower, women power is being deployed here in southern California on a twenty four to seven basis to keep us safe. And then remember the old phrase like if you see something, say something, it's almost like something that you sort of raise your eyebrows at and say, really, is that the best you got? But that kind of is the best you got. And the case of these attacks, or at least the one in New Orleans, it seems like he was playing saying plenty both online and to his family and friends, and looks like nobody said anything.

All right, when we come back more on this.

All right, when we come back more on this.

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We look towards New Orleans, we look towards Vegas, and we look here towards southern California, and we ask ourselves the question, which is disturbing, alarming, but required our safe. I mean, it's three hundred and thirty five million people in the United States. Two of them have ruined the New Years and killed people and are dominating the news headlines. So the odds are still in our favor. But as we've talked about over and over again, and I've talked about this here, I've talked about this on Fox eleven News, the good guys, which are most of us, and then talking about law enforcement in particular, have to be right one hundred percent of the time. The bad guys only have to be right once. When I use right in sort of a general term, are you able to drive around a police car blockading a sidewalk and plow into a crowd of people and kill fourteen of them before you're killed in a gun battle with police?

We look towards New Orleans, we look towards Vegas, and we look here towards southern California, and we ask ourselves the question, which is disturbing, alarming, but required our safe. I mean, it's three hundred and thirty five million people in the United States. Two of them have ruined the New Years and killed people and are dominating the news headlines. So the odds are still in our favor. But as we've talked about over and over again, and I've talked about this here, I've talked about this on Fox eleven News, the good guys, which are most of us, and then talking about law enforcement in particular, have to be right one hundred percent of the time. The bad guys only have to be right once. When I use right in sort of a general term, are you able to drive around a police car blockading a sidewalk and plow into a crowd of people and kill fourteen of them before you're killed in a gun battle with police?

I mean, that's what happened. So the question is could it happen here?

I mean, that's what happened. So the question is could it happen here?

In what types of institutions, organizations, people are there in place to keep us safe. It's something that I had the portunity to cover quite a bit over the years, and we asked the question, you know, could it happen here. When we talk about ISIS inspired terrorism and what is ISIS, I mean ISIS is essentially a terrorist organization dedicated to destroying the West and uniting the radical interpretation of Islam worldwide. I mean the Islamic State, Barack and Syria. I mean essentially we use that term ISIS. If you want to spend some time online educating yourself, it might be worth it, or you just might want to know enough that these are people with a radical, evil interpretation of Islam, of Islam who want to destroy the West. And I think that's deep enough. But remember twenty fifteen. I'm sure Debra you remember this, the sam Bernardino terrorist attack. It was December second, the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino. A married couple living in Redlands targeted the San Bernardino Department of Public Health during a Christmas party. Fourteen people killed, twenty two others seriously injured, and then hours later the police pursued them and killed them in a shootout. This was again homegrown violent extream us. You heard Olivia Rubin talking at the top of the hour. One of the questions is how these people get quote unquote radicalized which is a.

In what types of institutions, organizations, people are there in place to keep us safe. It's something that I had the portunity to cover quite a bit over the years, and we asked the question, you know, could it happen here. When we talk about ISIS inspired terrorism and what is ISIS, I mean ISIS is essentially a terrorist organization dedicated to destroying the West and uniting the radical interpretation of Islam worldwide. I mean the Islamic State, Barack and Syria. I mean essentially we use that term ISIS. If you want to spend some time online educating yourself, it might be worth it, or you just might want to know enough that these are people with a radical, evil interpretation of Islam, of Islam who want to destroy the West. And I think that's deep enough. But remember twenty fifteen. I'm sure Debra you remember this, the sam Bernardino terrorist attack. It was December second, the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino. A married couple living in Redlands targeted the San Bernardino Department of Public Health during a Christmas party. Fourteen people killed, twenty two others seriously injured, and then hours later the police pursued them and killed them in a shootout. This was again homegrown violent extream us. You heard Olivia Rubin talking at the top of the hour. One of the questions is how these people get quote unquote radicalized which is a.

Term of art in the twenty twenties. Is it they recruited? No? Are they online and formulating and fomenting hate? Yes?

Term of art in the twenty twenties. Is it they recruited? No? Are they online and formulating and fomenting hate? Yes?

And so when we asked the question could it happen here, it's already happened here.

And so when we asked the question could it happen here, it's already happened here.

Did you see Phil, did you see the video of the guy that the New Orleans guy? It was taken maybe four years ago, and he was talking about how he was a real estate agent and he seems so normal, and it was him just talking about, you know, what he was doing. And here we are four years later, and this is what happened.

Did you see Phil, did you see the video of the guy that the New Orleans guy? It was taken maybe four years ago, and he was talking about how he was a real estate agent and he seems so normal, and it was him just talking about, you know, what he was doing. And here we are four years later, and this is what happened.

I guess the question we don't know is you know what happened during that time exactly?

I guess the question we don't know is you know what happened during that time exactly?

You know, how do you you looked different as well? I mean, his whole demeanor, everything was just normal.

You know, how do you you looked different as well? I mean, his whole demeanor, everything was just normal.

And then what what is it that transformed someone? I mean, uh, it's just a questions that we can't answer necessarily. You know, there's so many a lot of times you hear on the news, police are still trying to determine his motive. How about this, he's crazy? You're trying to determine his motive. And then you know, I'm sure we're going to hear about maybe it was the Las Vegas suspect. Maybe the New Orleans suspect left behind a manifesto. It's almost like this checklist of items that we go down, and those of us in the news business are just almost become like stenographers instead of investigators and cynical analysts of what we're hearing from law enforcement and just sort of repeat what they say. I mean, first, they were considered that the Vegas and New Orleans were together connected and they weren't connected. Then we think that the New Orleans suspect had accomplices because of what you heard Olivia saying people were seen with these coolers, and they know he hadn't at all.

And then what what is it that transformed someone? I mean, uh, it's just a questions that we can't answer necessarily. You know, there's so many a lot of times you hear on the news, police are still trying to determine his motive. How about this, he's crazy? You're trying to determine his motive. And then you know, I'm sure we're going to hear about maybe it was the Las Vegas suspect. Maybe the New Orleans suspect left behind a manifesto. It's almost like this checklist of items that we go down, and those of us in the news business are just almost become like stenographers instead of investigators and cynical analysts of what we're hearing from law enforcement and just sort of repeat what they say. I mean, first, they were considered that the Vegas and New Orleans were together connected and they weren't connected. Then we think that the New Orleans suspect had accomplices because of what you heard Olivia saying people were seen with these coolers, and they know he hadn't at all.

He didn't have accomplices.

He didn't have accomplices.

He acted alone, which is some how it's supposed to make us feel better.

He acted alone, which is some how it's supposed to make us feel better.

I get it.

I get it.

These are very early stages of the investigation and information changes. But here here in Southern California, we have what are called a Joint Terrorism Task Force. In general, the FBI is the lead on these instances, in these crimes and these terrorist attacks, just like you've heard from New Orleans and from Vegas. But if you go online and look these things up, the information from the FBI, they call it the JTTF, the Joint Terrorism Task Force they call it, quote, the nation's front line of defense against terrorism, whether it's domestic terrorism or international terrorism. They're highly trained, locally based, and again this is the federal government's wording. Highly trained, local based, passionately committed investigative analysts, linguists, and other specialists from dozens of US law enforcement and intelligence agencies. When it comes to investigating terrorism, they do it all. Chase down, lead, gather evidence, make arrests, provide security for special events, collect and share intelligence, and respond to threats and incidents at a moment's notice.

These are very early stages of the investigation and information changes. But here here in Southern California, we have what are called a Joint Terrorism Task Force. In general, the FBI is the lead on these instances, in these crimes and these terrorist attacks, just like you've heard from New Orleans and from Vegas. But if you go online and look these things up, the information from the FBI, they call it the JTTF, the Joint Terrorism Task Force they call it, quote, the nation's front line of defense against terrorism, whether it's domestic terrorism or international terrorism. They're highly trained, locally based, and again this is the federal government's wording. Highly trained, local based, passionately committed investigative analysts, linguists, and other specialists from dozens of US law enforcement and intelligence agencies. When it comes to investigating terrorism, they do it all. Chase down, lead, gather evidence, make arrests, provide security for special events, collect and share intelligence, and respond to threats and incidents at a moment's notice.

This is the Joint.

This is the Joint.

Terrorism Task Force serves as a national resource and create familiarity among investigators and managers before a crisis by conducting frequent training to maintain the specialized skills, so on and so forth. They also have what are called fusion centers, and we have those in southern California. In fact, when they opened one, the news media years ago was allowed in and was able to talk to the FBI, the sheriff's department, the local police departments, and other federal three letter agencies and then said maybe that's not a great idea. So then they have what's called a j RICK Joint Regional Intelligence Center, which is a partnership between federal, state, and local law enforcement and public safety agencies. So the reason I the reason I bring these things up is to remind behind us that there is this huge infrastructure of incredibly dedicated, incredibly well trained, incredibly hard working law enforcement officials at both the local, county, state, federal, and international level whose only job is to keep us safe.

Terrorism Task Force serves as a national resource and create familiarity among investigators and managers before a crisis by conducting frequent training to maintain the specialized skills, so on and so forth. They also have what are called fusion centers, and we have those in southern California. In fact, when they opened one, the news media years ago was allowed in and was able to talk to the FBI, the sheriff's department, the local police departments, and other federal three letter agencies and then said maybe that's not a great idea. So then they have what's called a j RICK Joint Regional Intelligence Center, which is a partnership between federal, state, and local law enforcement and public safety agencies. So the reason I the reason I bring these things up is to remind behind us that there is this huge infrastructure of incredibly dedicated, incredibly well trained, incredibly hard working law enforcement officials at both the local, county, state, federal, and international level whose only job is to keep us safe.

His only job is to keep us safe. Their only job.

His only job is to keep us safe. Their only job.

Is to try to prevent the exact kind of attack that happened in New Orleans with shamsu Din Jabbar and to a lesser degree what happened in Vegas. And as you've seen and as we've seen over and over again, it's almost impossible to do it if you have one person who either keeps their plans to themselves or has a close knit circle of friends and family who aren't willing to go to the authorities. But then, having said that, we hear that this New Orleans suspect, you know, he's flying the ISIS flag. He had a a web platform on SoundCloud, an account on soundclrd under his name that he posted long recordings containing extremist religious views. He went on Facebook closer to the time of the attack, posting extremist religious views. And you know, we live in an open society. We have the First Amendment. These don't rise to the level of threats, necessarily don't rise to the level of crimes. So unless the National Security Agency is able to monitor these kinds of postings on a twenty four to seven basis and using artificial intelligence and their supercomputers flagging certain words and phrases and extremist views and then locating the person who posts them, we're just living in a fantasy land that we can prevent these kind of things. Because we talked about this on Monday and Tuesday when I was here in advance of New Year's Eve, and we use this term, Deborah, and I've heard you. I'm sure you've heard it over and over again. There are no credible threats. There are no credible threats. So obviously, if they were making credible threats, we could do a better job of preventing them. It's they don't make the threats, they just act. And this is we're dealing with the aftermath and the fallout and wondering what went wrong. It's very frustrating. And again this is not a criticism of law enforcement. I have the ultimate respect for the men and women that dedicate their lives to keeping us safe. But it's more of an understanding of the reality that, again, with three hundred and thirty five million people in the United States, the crazy, bad guys can sneak under the radar, fly under the radar, and commit their outrageous acts of terrorism without law enforcement apparatus being aware of them or being able to prevent that in advance.

Is to try to prevent the exact kind of attack that happened in New Orleans with shamsu Din Jabbar and to a lesser degree what happened in Vegas. And as you've seen and as we've seen over and over again, it's almost impossible to do it if you have one person who either keeps their plans to themselves or has a close knit circle of friends and family who aren't willing to go to the authorities. But then, having said that, we hear that this New Orleans suspect, you know, he's flying the ISIS flag. He had a a web platform on SoundCloud, an account on soundclrd under his name that he posted long recordings containing extremist religious views. He went on Facebook closer to the time of the attack, posting extremist religious views. And you know, we live in an open society. We have the First Amendment. These don't rise to the level of threats, necessarily don't rise to the level of crimes. So unless the National Security Agency is able to monitor these kinds of postings on a twenty four to seven basis and using artificial intelligence and their supercomputers flagging certain words and phrases and extremist views and then locating the person who posts them, we're just living in a fantasy land that we can prevent these kind of things. Because we talked about this on Monday and Tuesday when I was here in advance of New Year's Eve, and we use this term, Deborah, and I've heard you. I'm sure you've heard it over and over again. There are no credible threats. There are no credible threats. So obviously, if they were making credible threats, we could do a better job of preventing them. It's they don't make the threats, they just act. And this is we're dealing with the aftermath and the fallout and wondering what went wrong. It's very frustrating. And again this is not a criticism of law enforcement. I have the ultimate respect for the men and women that dedicate their lives to keeping us safe. But it's more of an understanding of the reality that, again, with three hundred and thirty five million people in the United States, the crazy, bad guys can sneak under the radar, fly under the radar, and commit their outrageous acts of terrorism without law enforcement apparatus being aware of them or being able to prevent that in advance.

And some people just come across so normal that you would never have a clue.

And some people just come across so normal that you would never have a clue.

Nobody would have a clue.

Nobody would have a clue.

I mean, look, we could be working with somebody that's crazy and we have no idea, and then the next day something crazy happens, which is really scary to think about it.

I mean, look, we could be working with somebody that's crazy and we have no idea, and then the next day something crazy happens, which is really scary to think about it.

Yeah, it's so do we live our lives in a mode of fear or do we live our lives saying I'm not going to let the bad guys get me down. Is there a sort of a compromise between those two extremes. I think there is. It's you know, being aware of your surroundings, being aware of you know, who might be doing what you in your world. But again you know, beautiful day here in southern California. We're all feeling good about, you know, come off of the New Year's looking forward to, you know, great things hopefully for ourselves and our family and our friends and our coworkers and our loved ones in.

Yeah, it's so do we live our lives in a mode of fear or do we live our lives saying I'm not going to let the bad guys get me down. Is there a sort of a compromise between those two extremes. I think there is. It's you know, being aware of your surroundings, being aware of you know, who might be doing what you in your world. But again you know, beautiful day here in southern California. We're all feeling good about, you know, come off of the New Year's looking forward to, you know, great things hopefully for ourselves and our family and our friends and our coworkers and our loved ones in.

Twenty twenty five.

Twenty twenty five.

But there are people who hate our way of life and are determined to do what they can to harm us. And it's an unfortunate reality. And that's why the news business exists.

But there are people who hate our way of life and are determined to do what they can to harm us. And it's an unfortunate reality. And that's why the news business exists.

You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am.

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Six forty so I'm Phil Schumann in for John Coe.

Six forty so I'm Phil Schumann in for John Coe.

Belt with you until four o'clock this afternoon as well as tomorrow.

Belt with you until four o'clock this afternoon as well as tomorrow.

John.

John.

We'll be back in the big chair on Monday, taking some well deserved time off over the holidays. Unfortunately holidays where if you follow the news business as we all do here, and if you do, if you're taking the time to listen to us here on KFI, god's been dominated by the deaths of about fourteen of fourteen people in New Orleans with this attack terror attack with a truck driving through a crowd in the early morning of New Year's and then, of course the bizarre story in Las Vegas, where a Green Beret, an elite United States Army Green beret, blew himself up in a Tesla truck in the Valet parking area of the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas.

We'll be back in the big chair on Monday, taking some well deserved time off over the holidays. Unfortunately holidays where if you follow the news business as we all do here, and if you do, if you're taking the time to listen to us here on KFI, god's been dominated by the deaths of about fourteen of fourteen people in New Orleans with this attack terror attack with a truck driving through a crowd in the early morning of New Year's and then, of course the bizarre story in Las Vegas, where a Green Beret, an elite United States Army Green beret, blew himself up in a Tesla truck in the Valet parking area of the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas.

Again very frightening.

Again very frightening.

The good news is he just killed himself and didn't kill anybody else, although I'm sure he intended to do that. About forty million people visit Las Vegas every year. We've all been there, right. Some people love it, some people don't. Forty million people. One of those who was visiting Las Vegas for the holidays from here in Orange County, California was Dallas Aimer. Can I call you, Dallas. Thanks for joining us this afternoon. I'm sure the past two days have been very upsetting. Can you tell us what you remember about the incident there at the Trump Hotel?

The good news is he just killed himself and didn't kill anybody else, although I'm sure he intended to do that. About forty million people visit Las Vegas every year. We've all been there, right. Some people love it, some people don't. Forty million people. One of those who was visiting Las Vegas for the holidays from here in Orange County, California was Dallas Aimer. Can I call you, Dallas. Thanks for joining us this afternoon. I'm sure the past two days have been very upsetting. Can you tell us what you remember about the incident there at the Trump Hotel?

Of course, yeah, So it's great to be on with you. So we were startled awake about eight thirty in the morning on New Year's morning, sounded like a sonic boom from a fighter jet or even a car backfire, just much bigger, and then quickly to try to call it the front desk to see what was happening. No responses no feedback whatsoever, no communication. So me and my wife my daughter decided to pack up and get out of the room as quickly as possible. Again no communication. So we once we exited the room, we saw smoke in the hallway and then tried to get on the elevator. Elevators were not working, so we had to walk down fifty six flights of stairs once outside, fifty six flights of stairs with a six year old daughter. It's no fun, but I had to do it. Once outside, we talked to a police officer. They would not let us back up for any reason, and they just kind of escorted us across the nearby parking lot of barely any details, no safety protocols, no plans, just to hey, just go give the police officers your name, your phone number, and you can leave. Well, our car was stuck in the ballet for the next twenty four hours. Then we couldn't get out, so we had to go get a new room at the Resorts World next door and saying an extra day, miss work, whatever it was, and just try to find out something happened, and then that's all that we can know, honestly.

Of course, yeah, So it's great to be on with you. So we were startled awake about eight thirty in the morning on New Year's morning, sounded like a sonic boom from a fighter jet or even a car backfire, just much bigger, and then quickly to try to call it the front desk to see what was happening. No responses no feedback whatsoever, no communication. So me and my wife my daughter decided to pack up and get out of the room as quickly as possible. Again no communication. So we once we exited the room, we saw smoke in the hallway and then tried to get on the elevator. Elevators were not working, so we had to walk down fifty six flights of stairs once outside, fifty six flights of stairs with a six year old daughter. It's no fun, but I had to do it. Once outside, we talked to a police officer. They would not let us back up for any reason, and they just kind of escorted us across the nearby parking lot of barely any details, no safety protocols, no plans, just to hey, just go give the police officers your name, your phone number, and you can leave. Well, our car was stuck in the ballet for the next twenty four hours. Then we couldn't get out, so we had to go get a new room at the Resorts World next door and saying an extra day, miss work, whatever it was, and just try to find out something happened, and then that's all that we can know, honestly.

So obviously this was very frightening because you know no information and you don't know like what else might happen? Right, and you have a six year old with you, I mean, what do you tell her? People I'm assuming are in a near paniced state. They'd heard what happened in New Orleans?

So obviously this was very frightening because you know no information and you don't know like what else might happen? Right, and you have a six year old with you, I mean, what do you tell her? People I'm assuming are in a near paniced state. They'd heard what happened in New Orleans?

How are you? How did you deal with all that?

How are you? How did you deal with all that?

It's just taking it one step at a time. Really mean. The farewell is where everyone just kind of congregated and just told whatever misinformation we could possibly share with each other based on their own experiences. Yeah, we knew nothing. I mean, there was no communication from the hotel, no calls, nothing. We just all said, you know what, hey, they're smoking, the hallways, elevators don't work. There was allowed some kind of a bang or explosion of some kind. We didn't know else, I mean, and so all we knew was we had to get out of some kind. So we just ran as fast as we could down the stairs. Everyone it just kind of it was just a chaotic mess in the stairwells, and then the parking lot next door was just everyone telling their own kind of stories. And that was it.

It's just taking it one step at a time. Really mean. The farewell is where everyone just kind of congregated and just told whatever misinformation we could possibly share with each other based on their own experiences. Yeah, we knew nothing. I mean, there was no communication from the hotel, no calls, nothing. We just all said, you know what, hey, they're smoking, the hallways, elevators don't work. There was allowed some kind of a bang or explosion of some kind. We didn't know else, I mean, and so all we knew was we had to get out of some kind. So we just ran as fast as we could down the stairs. Everyone it just kind of it was just a chaotic mess in the stairwells, and then the parking lot next door was just everyone telling their own kind of stories. And that was it.

So do you mind me asking what do you do for a living?

So do you mind me asking what do you do for a living?

I worked as an analyst of Irvine in Irvine.

I worked as an analyst of Irvine in Irvine.

So would you consider yourself someone who follows the news closely? You're obviously aware of, you know, current events, and have you tried to put this in any kind of context to give it, you know, have you had time to think about this? I mean, we don't know as much about this Livelsburg or this green beret in Vegas as we do so far about this suspect in New Orleans, But it just seems like it's radical. Isis terrorism attacking our quote unquote western way of life?

So would you consider yourself someone who follows the news closely? You're obviously aware of, you know, current events, and have you tried to put this in any kind of context to give it, you know, have you had time to think about this? I mean, we don't know as much about this Livelsburg or this green beret in Vegas as we do so far about this suspect in New Orleans, But it just seems like it's radical. Isis terrorism attacking our quote unquote western way of life?

Honestly, I have a hitch chance too. It's mostly been just in a survival mode. Keep my family safe, just try to figure out if there's anything else happening, piece together or whatever information I can, and just keep my family safe, keep my daughter informed as possible, you though, she can't really quite understand everything, So just try and see what did you get back home?

Honestly, I have a hitch chance too. It's mostly been just in a survival mode. Keep my family safe, just try to figure out if there's anything else happening, piece together or whatever information I can, and just keep my family safe, keep my daughter informed as possible, you though, she can't really quite understand everything, So just try and see what did you get back home?

Well?

Well?

Yeah, yeah, it's interesting because you know, one of the things we often do in the news business, and we have experts on to talk about how you share this kind of information with children, how much you tell them and and and what level of detail. So did you sort of rely on your own sense of what she couldn't handle, or did you get any expert advice on this? And how did you deal with your daughter and this this news.

Yeah, yeah, it's interesting because you know, one of the things we often do in the news business, and we have experts on to talk about how you share this kind of information with children, how much you tell them and and and what level of detail. So did you sort of rely on your own sense of what she couldn't handle, or did you get any expert advice on this? And how did you deal with your daughter and this this news.

It's really just piecemealing it together as much as possible. At first, we only knew there was a car on fire, and that's the only thing that we could hear from anybody else. After that, it was sort of like piece meal and just try to break it into her really slowly. She kind of understands it now, but not from a full perspective.

It's really just piecemealing it together as much as possible. At first, we only knew there was a car on fire, and that's the only thing that we could hear from anybody else. After that, it was sort of like piece meal and just try to break it into her really slowly. She kind of understands it now, but not from a full perspective.

No, we're talking with Dallas Amor from Orange County, who was visiting Las Vegas for the holidays and was in his hotel room with his wife and daughter when that Tesla truck blew up Wednesday morning. In general, do you before this say the event? And I was talking about this earlier in the in the hour. Do you feel safe in southern California?

No, we're talking with Dallas Amor from Orange County, who was visiting Las Vegas for the holidays and was in his hotel room with his wife and daughter when that Tesla truck blew up Wednesday morning. In general, do you before this say the event? And I was talking about this earlier in the in the hour. Do you feel safe in southern California?

I do, yeah, Actually from where we live in San Clemente, we're in Orange County. We're very safe and we would feel safer there than almost anywhere else than Los Angeles, Yes for sure.

I do, yeah, Actually from where we live in San Clemente, we're in Orange County. We're very safe and we would feel safer there than almost anywhere else than Los Angeles, Yes for sure.

Yes.

Yes.

And did you move there? Have you lived there a long time or did you move there? Is that part of your thinking?

And did you move there? Have you lived there a long time or did you move there? Is that part of your thinking?

We actually picked a place there about six or so years ago that's relatively safe. We knew Irvine was a very safe area, right, so we kind of corregated around there found our home in same for many.

We actually picked a place there about six or so years ago that's relatively safe. We knew Irvine was a very safe area, right, so we kind of corregated around there found our home in same for many.

Well, Dallas Amer, you know this is a story that, of course you'll have to tell something that you wish had never happened. I'm glad that you and everybody else there is safe and that you made it out and home safely, and that it was just this one, a crazed individual that committed this act and took his own life.

Well, Dallas Amer, you know this is a story that, of course you'll have to tell something that you wish had never happened. I'm glad that you and everybody else there is safe and that you made it out and home safely, and that it was just this one, a crazed individual that committed this act and took his own life.

But thanks for sharing this with us.

But thanks for sharing this with us.

Hopefully, you know, you never have to go through anything like that again.

Hopefully, you know, you never have to go through anything like that again.

To state the obvious, right, yeah, exactly. I hope we never have to go through it again. But you know, it's just going to be aware and on your toes.

To state the obvious, right, yeah, exactly. I hope we never have to go through it again. But you know, it's just going to be aware and on your toes.

Thank you, Dallas Amer, appreciate it.

Thank you, Dallas Amer, appreciate it.

And just we're wrapping up, we're talking about this cyber truck explosion outside the Trump Hotel in Vegas.

And just we're wrapping up, we're talking about this cyber truck explosion outside the Trump Hotel in Vegas.

You remember if you were with us at the top of.

You remember if you were with us at the top of.

The hour, ABC News reporter Olivia Rubin raised a point that many have been raising, is what is the connection, if any, to the Trump administration where his key advisor the unofficial Vice President Elon Musk of course, with the Tesla truck. I mean, the suspected terrorist drove the Tesla, which was rented, by the way, from a ride sharing app which we're going to get into a little bit later, the same app in which the New Orleans truck attacker used to rent his truck. This suspected terrorists shot himself in the head before the truck blew up, which is great, and he was apparently burned so badly that they had to identify him from his tattoos. And what also is so remarkable about this is that he was a Green Beret. Green Beret, as I'm sure you know from movies, from your own reading from TV shows, one of the most elite members of the Special Forces of US Armed Forces that there are. They specialize in counter terrorism, ironically in hostage rescues and reconnaissance and covert insertions into foreign countries.

The hour, ABC News reporter Olivia Rubin raised a point that many have been raising, is what is the connection, if any, to the Trump administration where his key advisor the unofficial Vice President Elon Musk of course, with the Tesla truck. I mean, the suspected terrorist drove the Tesla, which was rented, by the way, from a ride sharing app which we're going to get into a little bit later, the same app in which the New Orleans truck attacker used to rent his truck. This suspected terrorists shot himself in the head before the truck blew up, which is great, and he was apparently burned so badly that they had to identify him from his tattoos. And what also is so remarkable about this is that he was a Green Beret. Green Beret, as I'm sure you know from movies, from your own reading from TV shows, one of the most elite members of the Special Forces of US Armed Forces that there are. They specialize in counter terrorism, ironically in hostage rescues and reconnaissance and covert insertions into foreign countries.

They operate in any environment.

They operate in any environment.

And the point is the screening, the testing, the psychological evaluation of these candidates is intense extensive.

And the point is the screening, the testing, the psychological evaluation of these candidates is intense extensive.

They're the elite of the elite.

They're the elite of the elite.

So how someone who could have been a Green Beret somehow went off the rails in such a violent way and became so disillusioned and so radicalized. Is one of the many questions that hopefully people will answer, not just to learn about this guy, but to try to prevent this from happening again in the future. All Right, I'm Phil Schuman in for John Coleblt when we come back. How many times have we heard this? If you see something, say something, is that anything more than a slogan? Sadly maybe it is.

So how someone who could have been a Green Beret somehow went off the rails in such a violent way and became so disillusioned and so radicalized. Is one of the many questions that hopefully people will answer, not just to learn about this guy, but to try to prevent this from happening again in the future. All Right, I'm Phil Schuman in for John Coleblt when we come back. How many times have we heard this? If you see something, say something, is that anything more than a slogan? Sadly maybe it is.

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We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'd love for you to let us know what you think. And how do we do that. You click on the microphone icon if you're listening on the app, and you can record a message and then we can actually play that on the radio or on the app or wherever it is that you're listening. Isn't that exciting? I'd love for you to do that. It's been a little slow. We call that the talkback feature. It's been a little slow, but love to get some of your thoughts and opinions on what we've been talking about. The frightening terrorist attacks that we saw in New Orleans and we saw in Vegas, and then the questions that we've been dealing with is you know what to do about them. It's so much of a sort of a diversion from the beautiful seventy something degree day that we're enjoying here in Southern California, the second day of the new year, as people probably wind up their vacations or their time off from work and get ready to deal with another weekend coming up, and then probably back to a reality on Monday, if you're fortunate enough to have some time off during the holidays. This cloud of terrorism, you know, it just never seems to leave us here.

We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'd love for you to let us know what you think. And how do we do that. You click on the microphone icon if you're listening on the app, and you can record a message and then we can actually play that on the radio or on the app or wherever it is that you're listening. Isn't that exciting? I'd love for you to do that. It's been a little slow. We call that the talkback feature. It's been a little slow, but love to get some of your thoughts and opinions on what we've been talking about. The frightening terrorist attacks that we saw in New Orleans and we saw in Vegas, and then the questions that we've been dealing with is you know what to do about them. It's so much of a sort of a diversion from the beautiful seventy something degree day that we're enjoying here in Southern California, the second day of the new year, as people probably wind up their vacations or their time off from work and get ready to deal with another weekend coming up, and then probably back to a reality on Monday, if you're fortunate enough to have some time off during the holidays. This cloud of terrorism, you know, it just never seems to leave us here.

In southern California.

In southern California.

We're all too aware of crime, and you know that sort of the first step in that escalating, escalating scale of fear. I remember nineteen I guess the nineteen seventies, a young Phil Schuman going to college in Massachusetts, and I took a course called terrorism. I mean, this was back when the word was still in a relatively new to the to most of us, and it certainly wasn't you know, a widely accepted area of study or something that law enforcement on the local or state level spent a lot of time dealing with But you know, and there was all these debates over the past couple of days, was this was this a terrorist incident? All the reporters, you know, police or law enforcement is calling this, labeling this, referring to this as a terrorist in or not. Obviously, what we know now it's a terrorist incident. What's the definition of terrorism or a good definition of terrorism? The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims. The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims. Well, I think those two incidents and so many unfortunately before, certainly fit that definition. So how many times you've been watching the news and you see the news conference with the police or the sheriff's department or any other law enforcement official and they say, we just urge people if you see something, say something. And every time I hear that, I'm like, oh my god. It's like, you know, if you go into the airport on Christmas Day, leave early. If it's one hundred and thirty degrees outside, keep some water with you. You know, if it's forty degrees below zero, don't leave your pet outside, like it's in that category of like, really, that's the best you got for me. But the problem with it is that people don't say something. So it's actually an official campaign from the Department of Homeland Security. They call it a program If you See Something, Say Something program, and its mission is to raise public awareness in two primary areas. So pay attention to this because you know, you may be rolling your eyes, you may be.

We're all too aware of crime, and you know that sort of the first step in that escalating, escalating scale of fear. I remember nineteen I guess the nineteen seventies, a young Phil Schuman going to college in Massachusetts, and I took a course called terrorism. I mean, this was back when the word was still in a relatively new to the to most of us, and it certainly wasn't you know, a widely accepted area of study or something that law enforcement on the local or state level spent a lot of time dealing with But you know, and there was all these debates over the past couple of days, was this was this a terrorist incident? All the reporters, you know, police or law enforcement is calling this, labeling this, referring to this as a terrorist in or not. Obviously, what we know now it's a terrorist incident. What's the definition of terrorism or a good definition of terrorism? The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims. The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims. Well, I think those two incidents and so many unfortunately before, certainly fit that definition. So how many times you've been watching the news and you see the news conference with the police or the sheriff's department or any other law enforcement official and they say, we just urge people if you see something, say something. And every time I hear that, I'm like, oh my god. It's like, you know, if you go into the airport on Christmas Day, leave early. If it's one hundred and thirty degrees outside, keep some water with you. You know, if it's forty degrees below zero, don't leave your pet outside, like it's in that category of like, really, that's the best you got for me. But the problem with it is that people don't say something. So it's actually an official campaign from the Department of Homeland Security. They call it a program If you See Something, Say Something program, and its mission is to raise public awareness in two primary areas. So pay attention to this because you know, you may be rolling your eyes, you may be.

Laughing, Oh yeah, if you see something, say something.

Laughing, Oh yeah, if you see something, say something.

But the reality is if you do see something and you pick up the phone, you might save some lives. I mean, back in twenty fifteen, in that riverside or that rather that Sam Bernardino terrorist attacked by that couple that killed fourteen people, there are apparently plenty of signs, but I remember in covering that and going to the neighborhoods where the people lived, they're saying, well, you know, we didn't want to profile Muslims. We didn't want to be accused of discrimination, which is a very real concern. But where do you draw that line. Where do you make the decision I'm going to pick up the phone and call somebody. So again, we're not just trying to scare you here. We're trying to give you some news. You can use some information, some helpful facts and figures that what keep us safer. Let us enjoy our lives here in southern California rather than live in fear. So here's the question. If you see something, say something, well, what is something? So they actually give you a breakdown in a chart that they encourage you to download or print out. This again, is from the Department of Homeland Service's website.

But the reality is if you do see something and you pick up the phone, you might save some lives. I mean, back in twenty fifteen, in that riverside or that rather that Sam Bernardino terrorist attacked by that couple that killed fourteen people, there are apparently plenty of signs, but I remember in covering that and going to the neighborhoods where the people lived, they're saying, well, you know, we didn't want to profile Muslims. We didn't want to be accused of discrimination, which is a very real concern. But where do you draw that line. Where do you make the decision I'm going to pick up the phone and call somebody. So again, we're not just trying to scare you here. We're trying to give you some news. You can use some information, some helpful facts and figures that what keep us safer. Let us enjoy our lives here in southern California rather than live in fear. So here's the question. If you see something, say something, well, what is something? So they actually give you a breakdown in a chart that they encourage you to download or print out. This again, is from the Department of Homeland Service's website.

To Homeland Security website. Suspicious activity is.

To Homeland Security website. Suspicious activity is.

Any observed behavior that may indicate pre operational planning or planning associated with terrorism or terrorism related crimes.

Any observed behavior that may indicate pre operational planning or planning associated with terrorism or terrorism related crimes.

Okay.

Okay.

It also goes on to tell us that factors such as raith, race, ethnicity, gender, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability, or gender identity are not in themselves suspicious.

It also goes on to tell us that factors such as raith, race, ethnicity, gender, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability, or gender identity are not in themselves suspicious.

Okay, So what does suspicious activity look like?

Okay, So what does suspicious activity look like?

Threats communicating a spoken or written threat to commit a crime that could harmor kill people or damage a facility or a secured site. That's definitely suspicious activity. A prolonged or unusual interest in facilities, buildings, or infrastructure beyond casual or professional interests.

Threats communicating a spoken or written threat to commit a crime that could harmor kill people or damage a facility or a secured site. That's definitely suspicious activity. A prolonged or unusual interest in facilities, buildings, or infrastructure beyond casual or professional interests.

That's right.

That's right.

I mean to see someone you know sitting outside the federal building in downtown Los Angeles with cameras taking picture after picture after picture of the entrance and the security procedures.

I mean to see someone you know sitting outside the federal building in downtown Los Angeles with cameras taking picture after picture after picture of the entrance and the security procedures.

That suspicious activity.

That suspicious activity.

The same thing with, you know, just surveillance, people sitting outside a building without explanations for a prolonged time, stealing equipment like police uniforms or badges that belong to a facility or a secured site or an agency, or going on.

The same thing with, you know, just surveillance, people sitting outside a building without explanations for a prolonged time, stealing equipment like police uniforms or badges that belong to a facility or a secured site or an agency, or going on.

We're listing suspicious activities.

We're listing suspicious activities.

Give you wonder, Okay, if I see something, if you see something, say something, well, what is quote unquote something Someone challenging a facility security or even their computer security or IT systems to sort of probe the strengths or weaknesses of a target. Operating an aircraft that poses a threat over secure areas, and that's an obvious one. Unauthorized people trying to enter a restricted area, or impersonating an authorized person, listening information about personnel Beyond more curiosity, cyber attacks obviously a suspicious activity. Recruiting people to commit crimes or to commit hate crimes, or to participate in criminal activity.

Give you wonder, Okay, if I see something, if you see something, say something, well, what is quote unquote something Someone challenging a facility security or even their computer security or IT systems to sort of probe the strengths or weaknesses of a target. Operating an aircraft that poses a threat over secure areas, and that's an obvious one. Unauthorized people trying to enter a restricted area, or impersonating an authorized person, listening information about personnel Beyond more curiosity, cyber attacks obviously a suspicious activity. Recruiting people to commit crimes or to commit hate crimes, or to participate in criminal activity.

I mean, the list goes on and on.

I mean, the list goes on and on.

Collecting weapons, stockpiling weapons, not just handguns, say explosives, chemicals, other destructive materials. So it's you know, they say, do not respect respect and even how you would do this. Do not report suspicious activity to the Department of Homeland Security. Instead notify law enforcement. So we all know about nine one one, but nine one one is really reserved for emergencies happening right now, and so we can't call nine one one to test this system. But a very real question is, you know, what is the way to report suspicious activity.

Collecting weapons, stockpiling weapons, not just handguns, say explosives, chemicals, other destructive materials. So it's you know, they say, do not respect respect and even how you would do this. Do not report suspicious activity to the Department of Homeland Security. Instead notify law enforcement. So we all know about nine one one, but nine one one is really reserved for emergencies happening right now, and so we can't call nine one one to test this system. But a very real question is, you know, what is the way to report suspicious activity.

So there are local tip lines.

So there are local tip lines.

If it's obviously an emergency, you see someone in the in the in the process of doing something, you call nine one one. But in California, for example, there's numerous tip lines and you can look them up by by region. Law enforcement typically has seven digit phone numbers. Now the question then comes beyond that, and you know you can.

If it's obviously an emergency, you see someone in the in the in the process of doing something, you call nine one one. But in California, for example, there's numerous tip lines and you can look them up by by region. Law enforcement typically has seven digit phone numbers. Now the question then comes beyond that, and you know you can.

Only do so much.

Only do so much.

Is if you reach someone, say at the desk of the Van I's Division, and you say, hey, you know, I saw this guy sitting in a outside the courthouse and he had a camera and he was photographing the entrance and he was photographing people coming and going. You've done your part. What they do beyond that is a question. That you know, we can't be responsible for. But I guess the bottom line is, if you see something, say something. It sounds like a cheesy, cheap slogan that we've heard for years, but it actually can have impact if you do see something and say something in the way, whether it's a nine to one to one call or calling your local police station, sheriff station, or even talking to someone that you might know, connect to law enforcement and say hey, this doesn't seem right to me, or go online and look up, you know, crime stoppers numbers, and again it's then it's on the law enforcement part to follow up on that and hopefully you won't hear about it and say, you know, it's funny I had called and spoke with someone about this a week ago, and then there was some attack and we learned that nothing was done. Now, did either of the these suspects in both New Orleans and Vegas exhibit warning signs, threatening behavior, terrorist potential? Apparently the answer is yes, posting online, talking with friends and family members, and as far as we know at this point, nobody saw, nobody said anything if they saw something.

Is if you reach someone, say at the desk of the Van I's Division, and you say, hey, you know, I saw this guy sitting in a outside the courthouse and he had a camera and he was photographing the entrance and he was photographing people coming and going. You've done your part. What they do beyond that is a question. That you know, we can't be responsible for. But I guess the bottom line is, if you see something, say something. It sounds like a cheesy, cheap slogan that we've heard for years, but it actually can have impact if you do see something and say something in the way, whether it's a nine to one to one call or calling your local police station, sheriff station, or even talking to someone that you might know, connect to law enforcement and say hey, this doesn't seem right to me, or go online and look up, you know, crime stoppers numbers, and again it's then it's on the law enforcement part to follow up on that and hopefully you won't hear about it and say, you know, it's funny I had called and spoke with someone about this a week ago, and then there was some attack and we learned that nothing was done. Now, did either of the these suspects in both New Orleans and Vegas exhibit warning signs, threatening behavior, terrorist potential? Apparently the answer is yes, posting online, talking with friends and family members, and as far as we know at this point, nobody saw, nobody said anything if they saw something.

It's a lot to digest.

It's a lot to digest.

And it's a lot of responsibility that we take on as as citizens, but we have to do our part right. We can't live our lives with our head in the sand. At the same time, we can't live our lives in fear. So we have to draw some sort of happy medium there. Be aware of our surroundings, be responsible citizens, and do our part to keep everyone safe.

And it's a lot of responsibility that we take on as as citizens, but we have to do our part right. We can't live our lives with our head in the sand. At the same time, we can't live our lives in fear. So we have to draw some sort of happy medium there. Be aware of our surroundings, be responsible citizens, and do our part to keep everyone safe.

That's I guess that.

That's I guess that.

We would call that my January second sermon for a Thursday afternoon. It just is so upsetting that we have to deal with these two things at the start of the new year.

We would call that my January second sermon for a Thursday afternoon. It just is so upsetting that we have to deal with these two things at the start of the new year.

All right, I'm Philschuman in for John Cobalt.

All right, I'm Philschuman in for John Cobalt.

As I mentioned, always happy to be sitting here talking with you on KFI. Been a huge fan of talk radio or now we call it audio or streaming audio. My whole life still have I know Debora probably smile at this. Have the you know am FM clock radio with the the ear piece, you know, next to my bed because I can't sleep and I wake up and I listen to you know, Amy King and then Handle and then Channon.

As I mentioned, always happy to be sitting here talking with you on KFI. Been a huge fan of talk radio or now we call it audio or streaming audio. My whole life still have I know Debora probably smile at this. Have the you know am FM clock radio with the the ear piece, you know, next to my bed because I can't sleep and I wake up and I listen to you know, Amy King and then Handle and then Channon.

And Gary and you know, the whole group all day long.

And Gary and you know, the whole group all day long.

I need, I definitely need a life. But this is part of my life, and this is part of something that I'm really enjoying doing. You know, I've stepped back from the full time reporting on Fox eleven News, you know, because I'm not a young man, and this is a great opportunity to stay in touch, stay connected and do something new, because you know, when we're in the news business, right, what do we not do? We don't really give our own opinions. We're unbiased, We're straight down the middle. We're side this side and then the other side. But here on KFI and we get to, you know, share a little bit more about what we think.

I need, I definitely need a life. But this is part of my life, and this is part of something that I'm really enjoying doing. You know, I've stepped back from the full time reporting on Fox eleven News, you know, because I'm not a young man, and this is a great opportunity to stay in touch, stay connected and do something new, because you know, when we're in the news business, right, what do we not do? We don't really give our own opinions. We're unbiased, We're straight down the middle. We're side this side and then the other side. But here on KFI and we get to, you know, share a little bit more about what we think.

Yes, you do, and John gets on this side of.

Yes, you do, and John gets on this side of.

The control room and the studio on your side where you're in the news department.