On today's show:

– Chris Fitzsimon, host of the Stories from the States podcast
– Daniel Squadron, president and co-founder of Future Now and author of “The Fourth Branch: How State Government Can Save Our Union” (2026)
– Debra Kerr, president and CEO of Chicago’s Intuit Art Museum, along with the museum’s chief curator, Alison Amick

Catch "Joan Esposito: Live, Local and Progressive" weekdays from 2:00 to 5:00 p.m. Central on WCPT (heartlandsignal.com/programs/live-local-progressive).