Questlove With Jill Scott Part 1

Published Apr 19, 2023, 4:00 AM

Check out Jill's interview on Questlove Supreme. One of Questlove and Team Supreme's most anticipated interviews, Jill Scott, is finally here! Her relationship with The Roots introduced her to the world through a Grammy award winning song called, “You Got Me”. Hear the story of how a talented girl from North Philly joined forces with some of Philly’s finest to stake her claim in this world of soul music and take it far beyond expectations into the lands of television and film.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme.

Here on iHeart first of all our family. What's up like you?

Hey?

Yes?

How you doing? Why? Why he give me sideye already me?

I'm not giving you said, I'm excited?

Are you?

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No, No, I know this this is.

Let me just bypass you guys, pay Bill and far Ticolo.

I'll get into it.

Yeah, we've been waiting for this episode, probably longer than we care to actually stay on the records. I don't know why it's taken almost three and a half years for us to finally bring to fortune. Uh the Jill Scott episode. I can't say enough about this woman. She helped me get my first Grammy, and I appreciate that. Jill Scott, she saved my life. She gave me my first and only hit.

Wow, it is why.

Only No, lady and gentlemen, No, for Jill Scott is much more than that to me.

She's actually, she's literally one.

Of my favorite artists ever, accomplished poet singer.

Actually Chris Yes, extraordinaire.

Please welcome to Quest lof Supreme finally, one and only Jill. Wait, Joe, what's your middle name? I'm gonna look this up on the internet. Jill, Wait, why don't we know your Like?

Wait a minute, Jill, did you take your middle name off of the Internet.

Internet?

Yes, you did.

Barbara probably got a black ass middle name.

Lazy gentleman, Jill Scott, it's probably.

I like lo retal.

Wait, are you trying to tell me that your middle name will never be known into the world ever?

If you search hard enough, you'll find it.

Is really secret. Like she didn't want to tell me where she was at. She didn't want to tell me where her house was.

Not even a state? Yeah, not no, because you're a Philly for life.

Yeah, no, Philly all day.

And what.

I just like balance, man. I try to find a place where people don't know me at all for anything, and I go there and it's great. We have conversations about something and nothing. We get angry with each other and you know, call h oo a on each other. It's nice.

You're trying to tell me that you you're in a circle in which people may or may not know who you are.

That's right, No, not impossible. They all white.

I believe that. I can believe it.

Yes, possis white famous, and then there's black famous.

Yes, and white famous yes, and the white famous and uh no incomes text, no state income text. All that made sense to me an Anchorage, I was like, yep, I mean.

Wait, there's another place that's not Delaware that does this.

Yeah, I mean I'm in Tennessee. Oh.

Because she said it, I was scared she was gonna get this up if we said it.

Yeah. I won't fight you, nigga, I'm scared of you.

You know this.

The first song was getting it. Let me tell you about Basilina.

I never forget Jill.

Jill. I, Oh my god, story time, story time?

Can I sell you all the There are seven words I ever heard Jill Scott ever say. Okay, So Jill Scott is best friend with a mutual friend of ours, Leslie Arnette Pina. Leslie is the voice of Oh on Lazy Afternoon or do you Want More?

Right? So, I believe maybe this is when Leslie's cutting it.

I'm not certain, but what I do know is that she brought her girlfriend down to the studio with her. Now, what makes this even crazier I'm not knowing that the guy that Jill was once dating is also currently messing with a roommate of someone that I lived with in the house that I was living in during the do you Want More?

Period? This sounds like an episode of Insecure.

This is so terrible.

This all I know. This is all I know, terrible, not sight n seen.

I sat down on the couch and she must have gotten the news that that he did her wrong. And she said, and the most think of the most Oprah Harpo voice you can muster up, she said, She said, Jill Scott, lady.

Gentlemen, yeah ye.

Heather, Oh god, I don't know what I was doing. Internet just told me I don't know what I was doing.

I was either midshew, I don't know if I was at my lunch or reading something. But I was like, oh, I'm scared of this woman forever.

What happened to him, what happened to was gonna get cut off.

What happened.

Let's see. What do I know?

I know that and the story at the house.

I can't tell you the rest. It's so bad. I think the.

Special limitations is that I think you can in Okay.

So I went to the house. I went to the house, and and she was there at the house right right right, drinking my kool aid out of the glass I bought. YEP, I happened to have a razor blade.

Oh boy, all right, this is question of supreme min Thank you, school next week and gentlemen, love.

Yeah, keep going.

Everyone lived, Everyone lived, but his wardrobe didn't live. Ah, his wardrobe didn't live.

Kind of everything and everything era.

Hockey era everything and.

Where you can.

Settle something for me, Jill, was he at all? Was he at all involved in music? Because I have another issue with him three weeks later. Now, mind you, this guy is messing with a girl that lives in my house, and he steals my drum machine.

Dog.

I put two and two together way after the fact, like you all just tarantinoed your way into my timeline, and then I had to put the story together to realize what was going on. But he also, I have reason to believe that he stole one of my drum machines that house probably, and so yeah, but that's how, that's how I And then the second time, But the second time, Jill was made three grand entrances in my life before I even started a real conversation with her. Now, the second one was a little blurry because at the time I was at Richmond Diena's house. It was like a barbecue whatever, and it was like a spades tournament. And one of my greatest shames is also I learned late, right, So that part's a little blurry, But I remember Jill there. But the third time with meeting Jill was at a poetry slam in West Philadelphia around fifty fourth and Baltimore Avenue.

I don't remember this.

You don't remember this, no, you all right, So I believe either Torpeter Mason introduced you somebody a fellow poet introduced you and you cut her off before. It was like, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to bring up someone to the stage. And and then all of a sudden, from the back you went into Jodesses freaking you from So it was like, ladies and gentlemen, Okay, that was Ursula Rucker of Richmond, Tina and you know coming up next as a sister from North Philadelphia.

She was right, But no, man, it was like, you know how like Felicia was shot over Nuanzi eight where it's like like her last name is Alan, like Felicia Airs Allen or Debbie Allen.

From the back of the room. Every time I closed and we lost our ghosts, like who the fuck is this? And she's just like slowly walked to the stage. It was like our tongues were collectively wagging, like the.

And I don't remember that at all?

Did I miss out on Jill sexy poet? Like whole sexual poetry thing?

That dog you weren't there for that? I heard enough to be fucking yeah, nineteen ninety nine, I think you got it be in.

Sixteen, Oh pudding, pudn't there's a.

Wink in there, No, but I believe two three weeks later this is when you got me sort of.

You started coming around the Sigma with Scott.

So Nope, no, Jill, tell a story.

No, No, I don't. I don't remember Baltimore. It was so much poetry at the time. We were everywhere trying to earn fifteen dollars anywhere, Bob mits was birthday parties, at theaters, libraries. I was everywhere, just trying to earn a living as a poet. So I really don't remember that. But I do remember the night I met yo As Now. We were on a I'm trying to remember the brother's name. He had a small record store, and he had closed the record store out for the evening so people could read. I think Rich might have been DJing.

That was Rich's spot. Oh, Keith my current my current product man.

Years later, Yeah, it was Keith.

Look at that, Okay, Yes, in South Philly.

Yes, So I think we were there, if I'm not mistaken. And I read something and I came off and you said you do you write songs? And I lied, I said yes, which I did not do, and you were like, okay, Bet, I'm going to hook you up. You should come to the studio. Had I been to a studio yet? I don't even think I had been to a studio anywhere except for the night I met you at a Sigma Sigma sound where I met you, that was the first time I had ever been in studio. This will be the second. So you hooked me up with Scott Storch, who I knew only because I had seen him play in the keys at every jam session and every time that I saw you guys perform. You know, Scott was there. You You asked me if I could write a song. I said, okay, didn't know how at all. And we sat there and Scott and I got blazed for like, I don't know, like ho.

So you just wing you Got Me experience?

Was that the first generation? Like you gave him your first draft or you yeah?

Wow, Yeah, there were seven songs, but you got Me. I still that cassette You Got Me was number three. You worked on seven sketches. You Got Me was number three, And when I heard it, I said to myself, this song is going to change my life. I knew ten seconds in when you sing it, I was like, this HiT's going to change my life. And instantly ran downstairs to Dave Ivory's room and Scott happened to be there, and we just cut it right on the spot because I knew I wanted to get it out the way before like Rich and Tariq caught demo itis.

I was like, this song's going to change my life.

So before Rich and Tarik hear it in its current state and get demo itis and be like Nope, this is the version of that we're going to I was like, let me do the drums right now, and then there's there's a whole nother, like eight hour story of even the battle of drum and bass music at the end of it that dog because then it was like, dude, why are you why are you going to ruin the song? Like just be like Rich was Rich's whole John was like, look, stay straight ahead whatever, and I was like, no, this is a drumming bass song because initially I wanted the whole song to be that, and Rich was like no, yeah, keep it straight ahead and da da da, so you know, and the compromise of it all was like Okay, at the end, you get your little prize at the in the Cereal box.

Okay, here we're.

Still waiting for that part too, Like I just knew it was just every time you talked about that story, I'm gonna just say it should have been part two to that song.

We had part two, part three. We ended up having so many versions of the songs from Live.

Yeah the Roots on the Things Fall apart box two.

Dollars bill performance. That's probably still one of my favorites ever in DC.

Right, yep, wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, was there?

We are?

We are, we're jumping the gun. We're in nineteen ninety nine, Jill Scott. Yeah, where were you born? Where were you born?

At Albert Einstein Hospital in Philadelphia?

You want to be one on Blue N O R F Northfield O N O R yep, Northfield?

Where? Okay? Where in?

Because North Phillies is anything above Broad Street to me like a old Gotts Avenue or like, what what's like here in North Philly?

I'm twenty third in le High Oh yeah, Lee High, Broad and Lee High Avenue.

Okay, that's banging now what was it then?

It was it was the bottom?

Yikes, it was the bottom.

Then that's near j Street.

I don't know Jade Street all right, it's.

In the big shooting, like really that.

Many many, many shootings. You know where Dobbins is, Dobbins Vocational High School. I taught there for a couple of months, but I lived around the corner from Godlins.

You're a school teacher too.

I'm an English teacher.

Wow here Harley.

New Ye.

Okay, So in growing up in Philadelphia, like.

All right, first of all, how did you Because the thing is that if you're saying you're in North Philly, especially growing up in the eighties, getting out of North Philly is an achievement.

On its own.

Yes, indeed, sir, So.

What was life like navigating through North Philadelphia?

You know what I really you know, I know that it was tough. I know that there was there was a lot of murders. There were a lot I lost a lot of like, well, we all lost a lot of young men. Early one summer, we lost like seven young guys. You know, I knew them all. They were drug dealers, but I you know the drug dealers that I knew. They carried my mom's groceries home. You know, they wrote me poetry. They said on they said on my steps, and let me read the Megarallen Poe. You know they were They were sweet to me, and I know it seems absurd to some people, but I had a very, very idyllic uh concept of the hood. It was. It was beautiful, you know. There was neighbors who played the guitar and kept their screens open and so you could hear it. There were neighbors that everybody swept, you know. And then then Krack came. Crack came like a thief in the night and just destroyed everything good not everything. There were still good people around, but it made it really hard. You know. I definitely got shot at. I definitely had to fight a lot, and then I thought of ways of trying to not hurt anybody because I thought I was going to end up in jail if I didn't figure it out. So, you know, my mom took me to Juvie. I saw some stuff in there and I was like, Okay, I don't have to worry about me.

You went to juv No, she took me to Juvie on some scared straight John.

Yeah, before there was a scared straight. She was like, you should you know, I get She didn't tell me where were going. We just got on the thirty three and we got off and ended up in Juvie. It was a whole bunch of girls that looked a lot like me, that looked like they had been through hell in a basket. You know. I heard a couple of horrible stories about being in Juvie, and I was like, I'm good, Like, I have to find a way to survive without fighting, without having to defend myself because I don't you know, I'm not the kind of person that just puts my hands up and we're going to fight and it's over. You know, I don't know how to stop because I'm kind. You know. It might so terrible, but I am. I don't want to hurt anybody. So I'm in a position where in order to survive, I'm going to have to hurt somebody pretty badly and they may not make it. So I figured out other ways. I step to everybody. I don't well, I do, I do. I have a sister from my father.

But you grew up the loon child in yeah household. Yeah you didn't have a story. I'm gonna get my cousin to fuck you up.

Like there's none of that. My cousins hated. My cousins hated.

I could read through her words that Jill didn't have a problem being able to fight, because that was the problem that you were started being good at it.

It sounded like like you It wasn't.

I don't. I would never call it.

I think it.

Was.

It was you didn't lose that too often.

It wasn't. It just wasn't fair. You know. I didn't know how to stop. I didn't know how to win a fight and stop, so I don't really I try my best not to be in that position, to the to the very end, to the bitter end, to the you're going to jail in. And I didn't want that for myself. I was scared of it. So I embraced every possible way to be kind and loving and open in my hood. So and try at the same time not to be a sucker, you know, to get played by the crackheads or by the drug dealers. But you know, be friendly and be nice and be helpful where you can, but not give anybody money because if you give crackheads money to come back the next day like a squirrel, you know. So, you know, trying to find that balance to navigate living or dying. And yes, it was very hard to get out of North Philly. So I worked three jobs and did poetry and hoped that I could make some kind of a living. God in Dobbins High School was teaching English. It was dope. I loved it, but they weren't very helpful.

Good got in and subsequently went back there to teach.

No.

I went to Girls High okay, but I taught at Dobbins and I realized I wasn't going to make any money, which is so foul to this day. That I wasn't going to make any money and I wasn't gonna have any kind of support. There's no support for teachers. My principal told me I was young and idealistic and I would get over it, and I quit. I quit everything that day, like this sucks. There's gotta be something else. And then Ozzi Jones, I don't know if you got y'all know, Izzy Yes Jones. Izzy Jones called me the day I quit everything and said, Yo, there's an apprenticeship at the Ardent Theater Company. Do you want to try out for it? It's one hundred and fifty dollars a week. You're gonna end up working somewhere between fourteen and sixteen hours a week, but you'll get free acting classes and you'll learn everything about theater. What do you say? And I auditioned, and I had several meetings and I was the oldest and the only black person in the building. One thing begat another. Yeah.

So wait, so no freedom theater, none of this stuff ever comes.

Into your No, I wish I couldn't afford.

We're singing in church as as a young like, none of.

That didn't grow up in church.

Wait, so that meant that story about you?

It was a story about you not being a part of freedom, but that like you actually used to help clean up and do stuff around the building.

That's not true.

The cleaning up part came later when I was in college. But that was that was just because I thought it was dope. But I couldn't afford classes.

Where'd you go to school?

Temple?

Which one? I went for two years and I took off a year, went for three years, took off two years, came back.

Were major No.

No, I don't even know how many times I went to Temple. I don't It was just a blur, I swear to you. I just was trying to finish, to be the one in my family who finished school, and you know, they ended up giving me a honorary PhD, which I took. And I took that Scott, Scott, I went that on my passports so bad.

I don't know how to get that done.

I'm trying to tell you the first, the first degree I earned. After that, they gave me the next and the next book. I'm cool with it. I'm good with it.

Damn, Jill. I would have I would have known you, children, yo, I.

Got in the creative and performing arts. I really would have known you.

I could have went to Kapa.

Why got into both schools to girls Hiding and Kappa.

And I was terrified.

I was terrified of that neighborhood. I was like, I already got enough ship. Now I'm going to South Philly neighborhood. I'm scared, like they're gonna kill me. They're gonna try to.

All day. Julie pronounced it scared s k A E r d T scared.

I was scared.

I was like, they're going to kill me. I can't go here. That was at the audition, and I changed my mind and I got in as a writer.

You were creative writing major.

I was a creative I would have been the English teacher. Yeah, I would have been, but I changed my mind and went to girls high instead.

It's crazy. Okay, okay, so wait, did you know Sean in high school? I did?

We went on together?

Manager you know Sean in high school?

Said she just said that.

Yeah, but we weren't sure you were. No, we went on the prom together. We all went and sat together.

We were Yeah.

How many Sean?

Uh?

It was me and my date, him and his date, Court and in his date, so it was six of us. That's right.

Wow, that's dope. That a story of you and Sean, Like what an evolution?

Oh yeah, I think I met him when I was I was fourteen. I had to be fourteen or fifteen. I think I might have been fifteen. But I got pictures of young showing in my office somewhere.

We need this blackmail material. Oh come on, y'all.

Oh wait, damn I know, wait a damn ship because I know San's gonna listen to this episode.

I got some really good on showing you got you got some tapes?

You got some rap tapes?

What you got?

What you got rap tapes?

Man?

I scowled the earth for Showing's record. Oh my god, are you gonna pull up all right? Well wait, here's the here's the thing.

No, I got it. And he you know, like he sounds like it's straight. He's straight ll eighty five.

Like right now, he said he talked to his whole style. That's what he says.

Sounds.

But the thing is that Sean was like the family star Tarika Fomo because like, you know, Thanksgiving, Sean asked twelve and shingle out and was getting played on local radio. Bluie b was like, you know, and Tarik was like, where they get a load of me? And then that's what inspired to Rek to like step up.

That Sean and Tarka are cousins because most.

People, yeah, but this is where it even goes deeper.

Angela and Whistle my Angie former Okay player partner in current write writer at Mixed Dish one day she asked me for like some interstitial rap music, Like do I know like a real cheap, random rap song that's like kind of bad from like nineteen eighty five eighty six, like when they do a flashback thing like that time back in nineteen eighty five.

Yeah, then right, and so I was this close to getting that song clear on mixed dish.

But I would have had to I would have to been the owner of the publishing to make it happen.

Damn.

Oh god, yeah, because I wanted to be something where like Shorans is watching TV.

And it just just hurt fem.

How do I get this?

Oh?

Still, since I get off this phone, I will send it to you. Oh man, I've been saving. I've been saving this record for like the home to dry it.

I say, you know what I want to I mean, I want to hear the other six songs that Scott and I did. What happened to them? I don't know if you have them, but I'm curious because, yeah, my first time with Scott not having Babbage, not having baggage right Babbage?

Babbage?

Oh Babbage right Babbage?

Oh real weird?

Yeah yeah, Scott, Scott was on the whole other level. I was like, wait, wait, wow, this is this is wonderful, this is a beautiful sensation.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was Scott's at work.

At what point, even though you didn't have a traditional church experience or community theater experience as most of our guests do. Oh like, where does music play in your life? For at least the first four mintive years like your first eight years. Like, what was the first record you ever brought of? The first content you went to?

And were you allowed to?

Uh?

I said, was she allowed to have it?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Wait yeah right.

Blowing a dark record player?

I was allowed.

Let's see, I my first record. I don't know the first record, but I took The Whiz to my third grade show and tell and everybody hated it. I was devastated. Something was wrong with those people.

You play.

And they hated it?

So you brought the records to school? Yes, and they didn't appreciate it as much at all.

They thought it was awful. They booed. I was like, you're all insane. I'm out of here.

What was your jam on the record?

Jail?

Oh?

Brandon Day? You know how I know how you are about the Wiz, Like, yes, the Wiz poster is in a frame above my son's toilet.

I think the Wiz is a great horror movie. Dude.

You know what.

The Wiz is a hard cell.

It is.

One night, one night, I just I conducted experiment. It was one of these nights where where we had like Thanksgiving run uh, like a tour. I had Thanksgiving off but not enough to really like plan anything with family. So this time I was stuck with a bunch of people that I work with. We call them white people, and I was just wondering when you were to me, and I was like, I want to see how white.

People react to the Wiz. Oh this is good, yo.

It freaked them out. It was to them it was like an acid trip, like watching the Wiz through their eyes. Then they were like, Yo, this is the scariest ship we have ever seen.

Like now as a kid, like watching the Wiz and when Eveline's when her nails nails go.

Backwards and get the fun out of that.

Man.

That was I think we were just happening to see black people.

I think that's what it was. We was like, we got Michael Jackson, we got Dan A. Ross, So we're just happen to see black people acting.

But but the metaphors were so perfect. Black man can't catch cab in New York City, Yeah, the young woman who can't get out of the house, you know, still living at home with her mama. You know, all of those things that were actually occurring to poppy fields or the hookers on the street, you know, all of that it was. The metaphors were for the hood.

It was.

It was wonderful. As a writer, I just fell in love. And then I met Quincy Jones and was like, I just looked on you with the third grade. He was like, I hated that. I hated that whole moment of it.

Charlie, Yeah, Charlie. They hated each other. Well, he hated Charlie because.

It's you know what it was.

Okay, as as the elder statesman of this crew, because you all were three at the time when it came out, I'm saying that to watch like the morning that it came out, and to watch it in its first run, I had to stand I had to stand in line for three and a half hours.

You remember the Sam Eric the movies, like you saw it, you know, I'm just saying, yeah, that's a certain thing. I was just like, oh shit, no, no, no, no, the Wiz you.

I think I think now that I'm looking in hindsight, the excitement and the build up to what The Whiz was.

Was probably better than the movie itself.

No, no, I'm not saying that it was a bad film, because this is the thing we have to know, Like Sidney Lament, technically lost his career after The Whiz, like after batting out the Park with like Dark Day Afternoon was the one. Yeah, all these other films that he did, I think he did Cerpaco and The Wiz was seen as a failure now, you know. And I also have issues with how black films are judged by non black critics.

Yeah, by higher level.

So I know that there is also points off of that of just crulturally not understanding a tony.

I mean, what are we talking about it?

I know, but the Whiz is a hard sell now. Recently watching it, it's a heart cell.

Recently watching it, I realized what Jill was saying, like, oh man, there's a lot of The Whiz could also be like a self esteem motivational package because I saw it in a whole different light now post therapy, life coach and that stuff.

And then I was like, oh, okay, I see the lessons alive.

You're standing stroll, Steve.

Have you ever seen I saw The Wiz and I saw the sequel, Whiz Wit. Wait what I thought that joke would do better? I don't say there's a try to keep up the Wiz reloaded.

I wanted another one. I really I still want another one, but it couldn't.

Okay, So what's the second what's this plot line of the Wiz? What's the second? What would be the next the sequel in the Wiz? Like, what's the storyline?

It would have to be a lost Dorothy. A lost Dorothy meaning she doesn't know who she is or how to be. She's trapped in a world where she's uh, I don't know, weaved out and uh contacted and.

Wow what it may be.

But I think I think there's a lot of like that going.

On Black version of Wicked, just like they have it now.

You know. I love Wicked because it was so good.

The sequel to the Wizard of Oz was like, Yeah, what's better the movie or the soundtrack.

For the Whiz. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the movie.

Because there's dancing. Aw the soundtrack doesn't make sense unless you've seen the movie.

And it's weird because the soundtrack is technically a story. It's a movie without visuals, which is why I think it was a hard sell for Jill to get a bunch of third kids.

Third and fourth grade class home homer.

Teachers for them, No, I was a student, Okay, Yeah, they booed.

Live anywhere. Y'all think home can live anywhere?

Yeah, but what does that mean?

What does home mean of the song?

I'm just saying the song, Oh yeah, anywhere, anytime, anybody. But I wouldn't want to see. I wouldn't want to see like pop stars sing it. I wouldn't want to see. I would like to see, like, grab some folks out of Juilliard, you know, and have them portray these incredible people to make it stick to so it has ribs, you know, not just you know, fancy characters. I don't want to see that. I would like to. I would like Dorothy to have guts. I would like her to be afraid.

What was it like for you to perform the in front of Michael Jackson at the thirtieth anniversary performance?

Or was that just a weird experience altogether?

It was a very strange experience. I got there and it, honestly, it felt like nobody was there about before Michael Jackson, no one, And that bothered me a lot because I had turned down a role with Denzel Washington to be there because I really really wanted to honor Michael Jackson, and I was doing the Wiz so it meant a lot to me, and I got there and it just felt like nobody was about it, like nobody was really there to honor him. And I remember getting on stage and now they've added other people to this performance, which really frustrated me. Too great artists, but I just that's not what I had in mind. And anyway, long story short idea was to do what Too's do. You can't win, to have a scare crows, the whole thing, the dancing. I think they had Fatima on board at the time to choreograph the thing. I wanted to present him the whiz, you know, the way that he did it as best as I could with all of my heart. And uh, that didn't work out. They kept adding other people and then added something from the Wizard of Oz to honor e Liza Minelli, who was his homegirl, and I was like, what the fuck? And I got on stage and I looked to the left and there was Michael Jackson. He he was paper white. It wasn't like it wasn't any kind of human white.

He was.

He was paper white. And I didn't want to look anymore. I was like trying to hold back tears doing the performance because he was sitting Liza uh not E, Liza Manlly, Liz Taylor was sitting on one side of him, and Macaulay Coughtin was sitting on the other. He didn't he just didn't even look like a person. He was there. But when I tell you that color was not a people color, it just it was. It hurt me. It hurt me. And I get off stage and I'm all upset. I'm so upset and everybody's so happy. I feels crazy. When you're in the midst of this business and something impacts you in a way, you know you're, yeah, in the midst of it. Like so, I get off stage and everybody's celebrating and how great that was, and I can't even hear them. And then I turn my head and there's Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston and why Bobby, I mean Whitney Houston, God rest her soul walks over and I'm trying to get myself together and I look down and all I could think was that her her knees were bigger than her thighs. My heart is racing, and I just I cried the rest of the night. I just I just could not stop crying. I could not get myself together because these are people that I admired and respected and wanted them to be okay, you know, I wanted them to be healthy and thrive, and they just weren't. They just they just weren't. What year was this two thousand and one and the next day was nine eleven, the next day was nine eleven.

Because I know that there were I don't know, I only had.

I did one and then I saw it. It was on TV one night years later, and I wasn't even in it, and I was.

Like, did you ever get to circle back? And like, did you ever speak with him? Did you ever get to have contact with Michael?

I just talked to him on the phone. He called me one time to say that he liked me, and you know, that was it. I was on tour and uh, he just called to say that he liked me and he was going to send me a hat that I never got. Mhm, oh yeah, I didn't. I didn't like that Michael Jackson thing. I know you don't know. I'm you've had.

You must have had quite a few moments of like those industry clarity moments. I know Fonte has them all the time too. When you just like, this is where I wanted to be.

Man, you mean as far as diminist returns are concerned.

Yeah, I mean reality of this reality?

So how long is it before it kicks into you?

Now? I got into an unfortunate place where the only way that I could navigate my way through those disappointments was to then lower myself and lower my spirit to a place where I constantly.

Just came in itself to be disappointed exactly, which.

Is really putting a band aid over a bullet wound because it might help cope with that moment, but in the long run, that didn't service like my soul or my being and enjoying life and that sort of thing, because then, I mean, you do that for ten years and then you become cynical, and then you become evil, and then you become I mean it's just levels of low self esteem and all that stuff. So I mean, how long was it until, like, for you, was there ever a point where you're just like, oh, all my idols might disappoint me, or let me not meet them, and let me not take this phone call or have this lunch with this person. You know, I didn't even know you could have access to Michael Jackson. I'm like, wait a minute, you had Prince. Yeah, yeah, but meeting him was a very big be careful for what you ask for it because I meant, I'm not saying it wasn't idea. I mean we had great moments where it was fun and it was like everything I dreamed about playing with my idol.

But there were a lot of I mean you've seen that stuff.

There are a lot of moments that were like, ah, man, it was better off in my head, the idea in my head of Prince than what I got dealt with.

There are a couple of things. One is I'm really grateful that I grew up as a jehovah'switness. I had posters of New Addition on my wall. I loved them. I talked to them my grandmother. I came home one day and my grandmother took all my posters down and she said, you're idolizing these boys. And I was like, no, I'm not, No, I'm not. And She's like, you're in there talking to them and telling them how you feel. They're they're people. No man is above you and no man is beneath you. I was devastating I didn't like my grandmother for a long time.

That's really shit. Yeah, they cost you.

This is the shits of it all. You have these dreams and you have these ideas of what the world is supposed to be like, and it is what it is. So what do I do? I take the good wherever I can find it, and I hold on to that as hard as I can. That's all I can do. The rest. I see it for what it is, and you know, I'll oh forgive it for because it's whack. You know, I'll just forgive it because just cousin, keep pushing. There's no need to hold on to that. Shit is disturbing and disappointing.

But you know, has there been times in your career where it may have been someone that you met, like a younger artist or just anyone where you think you may have came across the wrong way to them and kind of in the disappointment of them and you had to kind of go back and clear up and be like, yo, I didn't really mean it that way, or whatever, like, have you ever found yourself on that side of the transaction.

I'm certain, I'm certain because I'm not you know, perfect, I'm certain that they caught me in the middle of something and I'm trying to deal, just to deal. I remember, this is a you know, an advanced artist. But I saw Sha Ka Khan. I was so excited. I was like, oh my god, you're so beautiful, your peace. I just love you so much. And I were at the Grammys. I think I won that time. So I'm walking around like, oh, ship, you know, I want to write shoes. I wore flip flops, you know, don't hurt, so my personality is good, you know, I'm so excited. And one of her folks comes over to me and they're like, miss miss Khan is upset with you. I said, miss Khan, who this a Shakaka.

Is upset with me?

So I don't know, but I'm going over there to find out because it's Shaka Khana and I love her. So I go over there and she was like, you called me a beast.

And I was like, wow, I'm glad.

I'm so glad that I had the good sense to go over there. We laughed hysterically. I was like, you know what, but.

Whatever, Like, who got the gall to say that? Ship to you?

Ms com for real?

And me me, you know, how could I call? I was like, Oh my god, this is this is crazy but very funny. These things happen.

These things happen, Jill, what are the what are the beginning steps that starts with you getting your record deal?

Wait a minute, First of all, can you clear up something? I'll try What was is Hidden Beach Michael Jordan's label?

And I'm only asking this because I'm so obsessed with the ESPN thirty for thirty Michael Jordan's.

Last dance documentary thing? Yeah I was. I think I was told that Hidden Beach was his label or something like like, what is what was Hidden Beach?

Well?

Hidden Beach Steve m Michael Jordan's invested.

Oh okay, so here's this.

Was I think, like the major investor in the face.

Of At the time, I didn't know if if Steve or Michael, if Michael like started the label and then had him running or whatever.

No, but it was it was incredible to be around him, and uh, he certainly put me in really nice rooms. Sure, yeah, yeah, he kind of liked me a little bit, and I was glad I got a chance to see some things and taste some things I didn't know existed. I was like, what is this you say, don't.

Yeah, one of my buddies of mine, a buddy mine from down here, Charles Whitfield. He was around at that time. And yeah, I've heard a lot of those stories, the m J stories.

A while, went to parties, he was parties all that it was.

It was great.

I don't know bulet. You're gonna tell me.

What the bulet?

The bulet is the black scal.

Bones and bones and you know, like Illuminati.

Yeah, the black called the Bulet.

Didn't want me.

Okay, they didn't want me. They were like they recruiting one of my DC friends.

Bill.

That's not for you to know, my friend, clearly.

Thank you. You don't know what, Bill, I don't want to join society.

It's the black, the black skulling.

Black skull boats.

Okay, they never wanted me.

Ever, I didn't get for I didn't give my bulet. I mean, it's real quiet because it's in it, lit be in it. Tell us Ji, So you've known Amir for a long time, longer than you know of us. Have God? You see him evolve? Who was the who was the person you met?

You know?

Twenty this question? She's next? How have you seen wow.

Okay, in the.

In the beginning, he was so quiet. He hardly ever said anything to me. He barely ever looked me in the face. And you in my line, you would hardly ever looked me in the face. And I was coming and I was give me a hug, give me a hug. And I had to you know, like, actually.

Years ago were more lovely than you were.

Rich was a lovey I want to you know, do you remember you had played? I was on the road with you guys. You had played or something, and you were really tired. And I was like, well, let me massage your ankles. Do you remember this? And I came to your room and massaged your ankles and you fell asleep.

That's my jail.

By the way, we were like, I don't even let my fucker see my ankles.

He's very sexy.

He allowed me that time and he rested, and which is what I hope for. He seems so stressed and tired, and I was like, jail, the ankles is rare.

Amir did not rest, So that was a big right, Okay, I have.

Massaged a lot of people in this lifetime.

Just that's your game, Ji.

I wish I remembered this.

It's just like you forgot.

I think I can help.

It's not the great I just think I can help.

Wait wait wait sie side note because wait, wait, side note, because the first time that Erica tells the story of didn't you know she said the same thing about Dylan and I hit him. I'm like, wait a minute, you had a massage by Eric Abadu when you was making She was massaging him as he was cutting up, chopping up the sample turka blue sample. He's like, I don't remember it happening like that dog it was.

It wasn't anything but sweetness. It was good and.

Good.

I'm probably the happiest place in my life right now. Uh, Jill, So that look you, thank you.

I appreciate it.

Take that on paid bill shot a sweats your ward. Motherfucker though, So now that.

We did all the soft and can I just ask because the story because I know that Jill ended up on tour singer you got me, But how did we get to the point of the different vocalist?

And then I want to know?

Okay, so you get to play on the verses. Here's the deal.

Oh yeah, I want to hear yours.

Here's so what I remember was Joe and I had a lunch date. And do you remember us going to Copas two on South Street.

Yeah yeah, Jill.

Jill is one of six people whose demo I actually listened to and actually liked, like envy that it wasn't mine.

The other and I've said the story before.

The other acts were blow Slim Village, little Brother, Jill Scott, Georgia m Maldreau.

She's been around along that.

Jay Davy. No, I heard it.

I never let you forget. He told me I would never sell a record.

No no, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. First of all, this is me? That is me? Is that sounding me? Or that's selling Rich Nichols?

That was you?

It sounds like you, Steve Wow, you did. Wait, Jill, you brought this up.

Before you brought this up. You brought this up for and I and I have issue with this. I don't think I ever said that.

Alternate fact.

No, listen, I remember sitting at the table you handed me your your your discmand Yes, it.

Was nineteen ninety eight.

I still have that by the way, and.

I remember first, I was like, wait a minute, there's someone else in Philadelphia making music. First of all, I was envious to the tracks because I didn't know.

You are skating around this one song. I'm just trying to get there.

No no, no, no, no no, I'm gonna get to that. But this starts at Copas. It starts at Copas. And she said that. I said, that's never I don't think that ever. Like Joe Biden.

Right now, I'm the king, Jill, I'm the king of my thoughts and my words, being on the opposite sides of the town. But I don't think there's ever a time in life in which I was not your biggest fan. So why is it not her A I'm just just I'm gonna get to that. I'm gonna get to that. I'm gonna get to that. Okay, but Jill, no, no, no, But Jill has always said that. In the beginning, I wasn't fully supportive and I said that she would never sell anything, only because I don't think that I thought that, or maybe I just thought like, oh, this is so good that maybe mainstream, Yeah, I could see that that mainstream audience won't get this but I was instantly in love with it. I've heard this story about baduism. I haven't heard it about Jill.

Damn.

You told her she wouldn't make it without you.

No, no, no, no, no no. What I heard what you saying?

I've read in the magazine. It was I think it was vibe or something. You heard a boy the wism and you were like, yo, I like it, but will you know the hood get it?

We'll just right.

I think the things that I love isn't necessarily palatable to mainstream America.

And I was wrong.

So maybe that's what I was trying to say, but I in no way was I not.

I want to I want to repaint this history between you and I, Jill Scott, and saving the record that I was your I mean, if I took a lunch date with you about your music. I've never invited no one to the studio but you, and that includes D'Angelo and Erica and anyone else I've worked with. You're literally the lone human being.

Agelo, he just didn't show up left and so all right, now you know I heard that quote. I was listening to that quote.

It's an inside joke, all right. So now for Liea's story. All right, So the story you got me is I hear it and instantly know that this is going to change my life. I run downstairs from Joe Tarcia's room where Scott's playing it for me. Me, Scott and Rich are listen to the results of him and Jill and we're like, that's the one. And instantly I told Scott stop playing it because I don't want Rich getting demo.

As we ran downstairs, I did it.

So the German bass argument was probably like a three day thing, and I was like, okay, great, I'll just do it the regular way.

I won't put any fancy, spancy things on it, and I'll do it. We do the song.

It's fucking awesome. So we go to New York and this is what reek'svocals on and everything is done and done?

Or is it just the best? You know what I think?

I think he struggled with the last verse, so I know, all right, So we have other issues going on.

Oh okay, all right, So here's the deal.

Communication in the Roots banned in the nineteen ninety nine wasn't too.

Much all motherfuckers. Why we know communication?

There's something that you guys don't know communication and the roots band. He isn't two ideas. So here's the all right, so snack number one and you got me okay number one. I mean we've we've made it very public. Malik's codependency problems now becoming a major problem for the band. There have been situations of fights and money and all this stuff, and it's sort of like, well, is he or isn't he?

What's he doing? Is he drinking too much? Da da da da?

And then you see valves of white powder and shit, and so we're dealing with that type of drama. So something happens that gets us kicked out of Sigma because of Malik. So now Vocal Vocal headquarters are now at Larry Golds at the studio. So problem number one is we're not all in the same place at the same time, working and interacting.

So now it's like a factory.

Joe Tarci still likes me because of his history with my father, so it's sort of like a mirror. You can stay, but you know, Malick and all his running buddies and all that stuff. They gotta do, right. So all music's being tracked at Sigma and then we send them to seventh and Cala Hill to the studio to be recorded. So while that's happening, there's also a third factor is mixing, So between mixing with the Axual NEOs and Bob Power. So in the morning I'm tracking and then the evening I'm mixing in New York. Suddenly I'm getting these tapes and I'm hearing this girl like wait, and I'm calling Rich like wait, who's this female voice on track fourteen doing ad libs?

And he was like, you know that girl, Eve, that's her? And so I'm like, oh, man, come on, oh even.

Have a part in the Eve party.

It was I didn't know she was. That's ke.

No, that was Rique em Mail and and comeal And I mean, look by this point and we're we're totally skipping over like the jam sessions that are happening at the house and everyone being at the house. So Jill's a presence, Jaguars a presence, the Jazzy fan Nazis are a presence, News a presence. Uh occasionally, you know, ten year old Jasmine Sullivan's a present And at some point then suddenly it's like okay, Eve. And at the time, you know, it was like her and her girlfriends that she was stripping with or whatever, like they come to the crib.

Malex bringing over these dudes. I don't know.

They putting a ship out of my carpet. I mean Beanie and and bean and yeah, Chris and Nathan those guys. But I don't know them from a cannapign They're putting it out of my carpet. So I started hating the jam sessions. So once it hit me, wait, wait, this is this is the stripper joint, like the joint with the short hair that's on this record, and Rich was like yeah, And now I'm like, oh man, we're about to do that, like come to the studio and I'm like, this is this is like I don't know how I feel about Like, no one had a meeting with me about people on the record, So that's where communications started getting bad. So that was ain't saying nothing new. So it's like, okay, I'll put her ad libs down because I'm just like, who, no one had a conversation with me about it, so you got me time.

Now I'm like, wait a minute, who's this wronging on the thing.

And it was the same situation and I was just like yo, like y'all just putting people on this record and not saying shit like this is our hit, Like now we got we already have a voice on here, and now what now another person is doing around like this is our one chance to.

Hit this ball out the park? There can only be one unknown and now there's like four entities and like what do we do? So that shit caused like a three week debate argument whatever.

So we get the song done, we're playing, we're playing it for MCA, and now they're like, Okay, we believe in the song, but you know, the girl sings good, but.

We feel like you should have a name to really do that. And we're like no, like this, she's killing this ship. She's killing this ship. So then it.

Became a group meeting of like you got me just started to be a nightmare to deal with. Tarik didn't have a third verse. Now it's like, wait, so now we gotta or who's gonna tell Jill?

Who told you Jill?

No one bitch, No, nobody told me. Wow, nobody told me.

Guys, mumpet new flash communication.

It wasn't the best. Wait wait, I want to I want to make an announcement. I want to make an announcement. Communication was never the strong point, and it wasn't even like a mean spirited thing.

It was more just like he'll do it, or he'll do it, or I got other ship to worry about.

Asked Jill when she heard it.

I remember, all right, I'm just saying that.

Really, their logic was like, yo, you know, I've heard stories of like, well she wasn't marketable, da da da da. This to them it was like this is, yeah, she sings great, but she's unknown and burn a hand beats two in the push and Eric Abatu said yes, and you gotta do it. And then me and Bob Power and Tarique we flew to Dallas, which at that point she was literally it was still I think we did. You got me maybe early ninety eight, because I know that Dre three thousand. When we got to the studio, Erica just finished whatever she was singing on Outcast's Liberation, so a quim and I wasn't out yet, so I feel like this is early ninety eight, We get there, we do it. It was cool, but I didn't have the fire in my soul that I felt with Jill's version. At one point midway Erica stopped and said, yo, her version is jamming, Yo, Like, why don't y'all just use her version? And I was about to agree, and Rich was like, you know, Rich's whole thing is like, look, let's let's say be it like just attempted a few times and revenue you don't work with it. If it doesn't work, then da da da da da. But knowing good and well, like I'm not leaving here without without your vocal, without this version, because I was ready to give it and it was to.

Play it a mir amir? Who gets to play it this week? Who should get to play it this week? On versus?

First of all, will this episode even be?

It does not matter, people will still want to know. I just need to This is after this just yes, this would be afterwards. But still who gets who gets the right to put.

Well, there's two versions of You Got Me? So Erica can play her version from Being's small part and from bell part. Say I say, I would say.

It's because you did opera jazz blues, No anybody, that's a whole Olympics long it is.

Jill's version of You Got Me is also when the Things fall apart in twentieth anniversary real it is.

I think that's rather cute.

Go ahead, I was gonna say. I think two things. One, I think Jill should get to play it because she wrote it. Two, I would like to offer my hot take the complexity. Complexity is a far better song than You Got Me.

That's just me. Let's just start.

That's complexity because I must give Jill props for complexity because complexity is a very hard word to sing, and you would not said it that so well. And yeah, complexity is my joint. That's like my favorite roots Jill joint. I love that fucking song.

You know what's weird? We knock that often, like fifteen minutes.

I remember it's knocking out very quickly and me actually thinking like wow, this was not the like thank god, this wasn't the drama that you got me?

Was was there lyrics to Complexity?

When I came in.

I don't remember, no, but.

It just hit me. It just hit me.

You were one of the fourteen for the you Oh my god, we did you know what? Complexity was so easy it made me forget the drama that was that you got me or now you got me to break you off?

To break off?

Remember that and you know what's weird, e this is so weird to say this on the air. Jill, you wrote that bridge break You Off? I forgot she wrote that.

Did she get that credit?

That's what I'm thinking about that right now, Like wait a minute, now is your time for all apologies that you have to.

Wait?

I get to Actually I could do a whole episode alone on the drama that was break you Off. By the time it got to Jill, it wasn't even break you Off. It was magic Foster whatever.

It was your your metaphor magic false magic. Wait, Jill, you don't remember it.

Like it's like an old Jill Scott poem.

Okay, so you know the second part, you know the second part that the second part.

Of the song that music sings by, right, he changed the words, but that was that was Jill's course, and it was like it was it was some sort of metaphorical, uh definition of whatever, like i'll you know, I'll stroke something and then your possible turned.

You know, I wrote that.

Well, the only part they kept was the baby, baby baby, and then your words were different.

Oh, but I think I think carbon that sounds foreign to you, Jo.

I think magic Fawcett elementary.

No You You Break You Off started with weird enough Keky Wyatt to read, all right, who's who's the guy that invented the King of Comedy? Uh no, no no, but uh the guy that that promoted the other black ste Marveys, not bi Al Hayman, but whoever that guy is that I meant he's the Will Packard of kind of.

For the comedy.

He's the reason why Harvey, Steve Harvey and Mack and and all those et ceterac. The entertainers are the stars they are now. He's the one that threw the Kings of comedy that Spike shot. He had an idea, yeah, to have a black SNL and we shot that, uh that pilot in two thousand and one, and it was like the Roots were the house band.

Think of SNL.

We shot a blown up with earthquake and whoever the black comedians were that were popping at the time shot this thing, and the Roots were the house band, and Kiki Whatt and Music were sitting in with us and just fucking around. That's how it Break You Off gets birthed. And it was like, hey, that song we didn't sound check. That was pretty cool and let's let's do it. And so then it went for music to I think Alicia had showed us up seven times, and then Joe Lavert did his version, who he technically did the best version.

I want to Jill wrote it, and then that didn't work out, and then I think, yep, that was my plan.

That plan was also Frankie Beverly. No no, no, no no, I had three George Benson Gerald over Frankie Beverly. I don't know.

That was when I was twelve.

That was my list.

Twelve and that mustache. Okay, yeah, maybe I don't really do mature old fast.

I thought he was fabulous because I.

Wasn't twelve years old thing about fucking Aretha Franklin when I was right, right right, yeah, but yeah, that song went around the world.

Then then it went to Blow's version was the most curious because he was crying on his version, like.

And then somehow just wound up back to break you off.

But yeah, it's so by the time all that was done then, yeah, complexity was done in like ten minutes.

So I love that song. I love that song.

I like it when it's it's easy like that, when it's you don't even think about it. It's just happening. That's so fun, and then you go on to the next thing. So how did I hear about it? I was on twenty second Street. I was in North Philly. I think I think I was probably headed to my theater job. I don't know, I'm not sure, probably, and it was coming out of one of the hair beauty supply places. It was on you know how the wa It was on the radio when I heard when she heard, she heard the radio when I heard it for the first we.

Are horrible, we trash. Wait wait, she's still.

We played the record on the radio, Wait, no, No, on the agame.

Out of the stores on twenty second Street. I was coming to getting probably a perm or something, and I was walking from the beauty supply place. It was coming out of every store and I heard the beginning, and I got all excited, and I was like, oh shit, my inner you know, my inner self, I'm just so pleased and nobody knows. And I was like, oh God, and even when it comes on, nobody's gonna know it's me. I'm so excited. And then I heard a voice that was not my own, and I was like, that's Erica and I'm looking. There's nobody to talk to. I don't know any you know, I don't know anybody. I can't share this story with anybody yet. I mean, I were cell phones. I just think. I think. I just walked to the end of the block. And by the time I got there, I was like, Eric abad is singing my song. Okay, song no no, I as a writer to go from zip to a Grammy Award winning singer singing your song like I was like, I'm in, I'm in. I can't even deny that. And then you guys were, well, let's take her on the road. And then I had that horrible lawyer who tried to gank y'all for all of this money. It was horrible. Luckily we were able to work that out. Oh it was terrible. She was just trying to bleed you dry to sing a hook to one song. I didn't do anything else but sing one hooks. And then you took me on the road and and treated me like a newbie and left me in Paris.

Wow.

Wait wait, wait wait wait that came through. I don't know if you heard that. I got what happened.

They there was a ticket at the desk for me to go home. Luckily, Luckily, I got the ticket and had to figure out how to get to the airport, because you know the French, they don't like it if you don't French. Straight out fact that I found a way to get to the airport through the airport. At the time, they didn't have English translation on anything in the French airport. In the Paris airport, you.

Could.

You could left my ass in Paris, and I learned everything. I learned everything from you. I'm gonna say I'm mayor, but from the roots. I learned how I don't want to travel.

I learned how I don't.

Love. I don't know about how you are now. But they put me in a hotel that it was across the street from their hotel. I think we were in Detroit, and they said, your hotel is over there, and I was like over here. They were like, yep, right across the street.

Damn.

Clearly, the smell of cigarette smoke was so strong. When I walked in the front door, I was like, I gotta take a shower, or I gotta take a shower. I'm on a bus full of dudes, I can't I gotta take a shower.

So I go in the room and.

And it's you know how, it's when the woodworks have been painted again and again and again. Yeah, the bad I questioned. I was like, okay, I can't do that. So I took all the towels and I put them into and I showered and dried off with my clothes and got out of there. But while I was in the shower, I had my luggage up against the door because on the outside they were like, I told you back, my money just.

Sold on.

So let me understand that. So this was a hotel. This was a motel, Like you opened the door and it led to outside.

It led to crazy house. It was a small house with winding steps that they called the hotel that I think they used prostution.

That was the damn halfway house.

That's where I was staying.

Yes, samn, Yes, explains a lot, because I bet you on that tour in Switzerland and I was like, man, she showing short with the hello nice okay she.

Yeah, damn y'all had jill in the lack of wanna blues house.

Guys, I feel like everybody has to have they have to be haze to a certain degree. You have it's a writer. It was the same way with theater. It's the same way with this business. It's the same way with touring. Y'all would do this, this is my favorite. You never you didn't smoke. But the guys would be like, yeah, me and so.

Oh is good for that? No he is, admittedly so he don't.

It was it was everybody. The only person that was nice to me. Kamal was nice to me, and Kamal was nice to me, and Hub would occasionally hub.

Okay, okay.

There was a gentleman there.

Okay.

Yes. Occasionally he would tell me you're doing okay and I said okay. Other than that, that was it.

I learned so much.

I learned so much. Thank you. Did I ever tell you thank you? Did I ever tell you?

Thank you?

So so so much my life.

I feel like if we had the sound bite of Miss Sophia saying, woman ain't chasing a house full of men?

Damn.

Yeah, that's the roughest tour I've ever been on, and maintain that fro, that whole tour, that that fro was beautiful.

It made Muhammada go, wait, somebody with me.

I feel like that my barber had my hair like fevers. It was gorgeous.

Man remember Barber's oh Man, Yeah, thank you, so Jill, damn it.

It's okay, okay, it's okay, it's okay.

Crime I've done.

Everything happens for a reason, nothing but none of this would have happened if not for the other thing.

So right, it's like our first real extended conversations lasted more than an hour in our twenty years of knowing each other.

Now, I don't understand why she ended up working with Jesse Jail

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