This week, we’re talking to two women who grew up checking off the boxes to be the best Christians they could possibly be, and who would learn later in life would come to know a God who was more concerned with their hearts than with their behaviors.

Comedian Anita Renfroe grew up in a church that didn’t consider laughter to be appropriate within its walls. As a person who always had something funny running through her head, it took her years to realize that joy, which bubbles over into laughter, is actually something that pleases the heart of God. Writer and teacher Hollylu Jostes also grew up in an environment that had very specific notions on what it meant to be a “good Christian.” Basically playing a role that ran counterintuitive to who she was as a person, she struggled to find her authentic self until she learned to know the God who loved her madly, who gave her the freedom to be exactly who she was meant to be. 



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Jesus Listens

Past interview:  Rachael Lampa

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Jesus Calling for Easter



Anita Renfroe

Women of Faith

“The Mom Song”

Good Morning America

Modern Family

The Middle

www.anitarenfroe.com



Hollylu Jostes

 Salty: The Deconstruction of a Good Christian

 Proverbs 31 NIV

 Matthew 5:13 NIV

www.hollyluspeaks.com



Interview Quotes:

“One of my favorite things about how the Lord led me into this is that it takes, sometimes, other people to point out things that should be obvious to you, but are not.” - Anita Renfroe 

“I feel it's a gift when the body of Christ can call out [talents] in each other.” - Anita Renfroe 

“I like to sign up for things I don't know how to do and do it, and I think that's how I communicate with God the best, is when I'm pushed way out on a limb.” - Hollylu Jostes 

“I chose Him because He's God. He is the only rational choice, and then everything falls under that. And once that is in the right place, then you are free to be who God created you to be.” - Hollylu Jostes 

“I think it's important to connect with God daily because He is the fuel. He is what gets us through our day. He's what gives our day meaning and He's what infuses our day with joy. He will meet you in these meager little moments that we offer Him and He will grow them.” - Hollylu Jostes

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Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer:  https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C

Peace for Everyday Life:     https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj

Peace in Uncertain Times:     https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u

What’s Good?     https://bit.ly/3vc2cKj

Enneagram:     https://bit.ly/3hzRCCY

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This week, we’re talking to two women who grew up checking off the boxes to be the best Christians they could possibly be, and who would learn later in life would come to know a God who was more concerned with their hearts than with their behaviors. <a href="https://www.anitarenfroe.com/">Comedian Anita Renfroe</a> grew up in a church that didn’t consider laughter to be appropriate within its walls. As a person who always had something funny running through her head, it took her years to realize that joy, which bubbles over into laughter, is actually something that pleases the heart of God. <a href="https://www.hollyluspeaks.com/">Writer and teacher Hollylu Jostes</a> also grew up in an environment that had very specific notions on what it meant to be a “good Christian.” Basically playing a role that ran counterintuitive to who she was as a person, she struggled to find her authentic self until she learned to know the God who loved her madly, who gave her the freedom to be exactly who she was meant to be.    Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a> <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a> <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a> <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a> Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/trusting-god-and-finding-your-true-self-rachael-lampa-and-kb/"> Rachael Lampa</a> Upcoming interview: <a href="https://worldathletics.org/athletes/united-states/sydney-mclaughlin-levrone-14624749"> Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone</a> Thank you to our sponsor: <a href="http://www.give.cru.org/">www.give.cru.org</a> <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-calling-for-easter/">Jesus Calling for Easter</a>   <a href="https://www.anitarenfroe.com/">Anita Renfroe</a> <a href="https://www.womenoffaith.com/">Women of Faith</a>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYukEAmoMCQ">“The Mom Song”</a>  <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072506/">Good Morning America</a> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442437/">Modern Family</a>  <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442464/">The Middle</a> <a href="http://www.anitarenfroe.com">www.anitarenfroe.com</a>   <a href="https://www.hollyluspeaks.com/">Hollylu Jostes</a>  <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Salty-Deconstruction-Christian-Hollylu-Jostes/dp/164645605X/"> Salty: The Deconstruction of a Good Christian</a> <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs+31&version=NIV"> Proverbs 31 NIV</a> <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+5%3A13&version=NIV"> Matthew 5:13 NIV</a> <a href="http://www.hollyluspeaks.com">www.hollyluspeaks.com</a>   Interview Quotes: “One of my favorite things about how the Lord led me into this is that it takes, sometimes, other people to point out things that should be obvious to you, but are not.” - Anita Renfroe  “I feel it's a gift when the body of Christ can call out [talents] in each other.” - Anita Renfroe  “I like to sign up for things I don't know how to do and do it, and I think that's how I communicate with God the best, is when I'm pushed way out on a limb.” - Hollylu Jostes  “I chose Him because He's God. He is the only rational choice, and then everything falls under that. And once that is in the right place, then you are free to be who God created you to be.” - Hollylu Jostes  “I think it's important to connect with God daily because He is the fuel. He is what gets us through our day. He's what gives our day meaning and He's what infuses our day with joy. He will meet you in these meager little moments that we offer Him and He will grow them.” - Hollylu Jostes ________________________ Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel! Audio Episodes:     <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>  Bonus Podcasts:     <a href="https://bit.ly/3vfLlGw">https://bit.ly/3vfLlGw</a>  Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer:  <a href="https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C">https://bit.ly/3Sd0a6C</a>  Peace for Everyday Life:     <a href="https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj">https://bit.ly/3zzwFoj</a>  Peace in Uncertain Times:     <a href="https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u">https://bit.ly/3cHfB6u</a>  What’s Good?     <a href="https://bit.ly/3vc2cKj">https://bit.ly/3vc2cKj</a>  Enneagram:     <a href="https://bit.ly/3hzRCCY">https://bit.ly/3hzRCCY</a>  ________________________  Connect with Jesus Calling <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jesuscalling/">Instagram</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/JesusCalling/">Facebook</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Jesus_Calling">Twitter</a> <a href="https://www.pinterest.com/Jesus_Calling/?eq=jesus%20calling&etslf=5858"> Pinterest</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Jesuscallingbook?sub_confirmation=1">YouTube</a> <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/">Website</a> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jesuscalling?lang=en">TikTok</a>

Millions have been encouraged and inspired by the words of the #1 best-selling 365-day devotional "Jesus Calling." Listen to real-life stories of faith as told by those who have experienced the power of living in His presence.

Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith

Millions have been encouraged and inspired by the words of the #1 best-selling 365-day devotional "Jesus Calling." Listen to real-life stories of faith as told by those who have experienced the power of living in His presence.

Jesus Calling

This week, we’re talking to two women who grew up checking off the boxes to be the best Christians they could possibly be, and who would learn later in life would come to know a God who was more concerned with their hearts than with their behaviors....

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