We’re joined by author and counselor Chuck DeGroat, who explores the profound invitation of the second half of life—a season where we are called to move beyond the “proving and performing” of our younger years. Chuck shares why this transition calls us to detangle our identities and embrace a slower, “non-microwavable” path to healing. He explains how cultivating spaces of safety and reconnection allows us to finally come home—to ourselves, to one another, and to God.

Later, we’ll hear from David and Alicia Lloyd. After more than two decades of dedicated service in the country of Haiti, they faced a devastating crisis that upended their world and challenged everything they thought they understood about God’s faithfulness. They share the raw, vulnerable journey of navigating profound loss and the unexpected ways they ultimately discovered God anew in the aftermath.

 

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Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview: Erin Leigh Nelson 

Upcoming interview: Darin Kinder

Jesus Listens: Prayers for Every Season 

 

Chuck DeGroat

Carl Jung

Thomas Merton

Henri Nouwen

Genesis chapter three

www.chuckdegroat.net

Who You’re Becoming

 

David and Alicia Lloyd

www.missionsinhaiti.com

Strong to the End

 

Interview Quotes:

“We’re often wrestling with this invitation of the second half of life where there is some sense that the rules of the first half of life don’t work any longer, and that there’s a deeper realization that they’re being invited to.” - Chuck DeGroat 

“I think that the work that I invite others into, and the work I’ve had to do myself, is some detangling from the identity of that first half of life. What I thought I needed to chase after—that usually comes with a lot of should’s. And we’ve got to trace that story back often to early childhood. Where did those should’s and ought’s come from? And what was the deeper dream? What was the deep longing, the deeper vision?” - Chuck DeGroat 

“You’re noticing things that you didn’t have time to notice in the first half of life when you were living according to the rules of busyness and proving and protecting. But with that, there are also questions of mortality like, Did it mean anything? What have I lost? Who have I hurt along the way in my busyness and my workaholism?” - Chuck DeGroat

“God created us with a physiological connection point, or maybe even call it a homing beacon, that reminds us that our deepest longing is for home, is for connection, is for love.” - Chuck DeGroat

“We stray from home into places that are disconnected, sometimes overwhelmed, sometimes frantic. Sometimes we find ourselves in anxious places, and yet the invitation to my clients, the invitation from God to you and to me, is always to return home.” - Chuck DeGroat 

“There’s no fast track to change. There’s no microwavable pathway to change. It’s slow, and sometimes painful, but it begins with reconnection, and reconnection can only happen when our nervous systems experience a sense of safety. When we know within us, and around us, that we’re in a place where we’re truly seen and known and held, that’s when we can begin to shift in a new direction.” - Chuck DeGroat 

“We had prayed so many times before that [God] would show up in the middle of whatever we’re facing, and [He] had showed up, God, like we prayed.” - David Lloyd

“God did show up, just not the way we had prayed. But God was there.” - David Lloyd 

“For me, my moments of grief, my moments of breakdown, were when I was by myself, which was usually not always the most opportune times.” - David Lloyd

“I realized that God still does care about us, He does still realize that we’re hurting, and we can just call out to Him, and we can say, ‘We need some relief.’” - David Lloyd

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Audio Interviews: https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7 

Video Interviews: https://bit.ly/4f79RAW 

Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx 

Scripture Series: https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU 

Celebrity Readings: https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ 

Video Devotionals: https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb 

Sleep Meditations: https://bit.ly/4w0xu37
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We&rsquo;re joined by <a href="https://www.chuckdegroat.net/">author and counselor Chuck DeGroat</a>, who explores the profound invitation of the second half of life&mdash;a season where we are called to move beyond the &ldquo;proving and performing&rdquo; of our younger years. Chuck shares why this transition calls us to detangle our identities and embrace a slower, &ldquo;non-microwavable&rdquo; path to healing. He explains how cultivating spaces of safety and reconnection allows us to finally come home&mdash;to ourselves, to one another, and to God.
Later, we&rsquo;ll hear from <a href="https://www.missionsinhaiti.com/about-us">David and Alicia Lloyd</a>. After more than two decades of dedicated service in the country of Haiti, they faced a devastating crisis that upended their world and challenged everything they thought they understood about God&rsquo;s faithfulness. They share the raw, vulnerable journey of navigating profound loss and the unexpected ways they ultimately discovered God anew in the aftermath.
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Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/">Jesus Calling Podcast</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/">Jesus Calling</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-always/">Jesus Always</a>
<a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-listens/">Jesus Listens</a>
Past interview: <a href="https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/the-sacred-space-of-sorrow-erin-leigh-nelson-allie-marie-smith/">Erin Leigh Nelson</a>&nbsp;
Upcoming interview: <a href="https://www.darinkinder.com/">Darin Kinder</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Listens-Prayers-365-Day-Illustrated/dp/1400254671">Jesus Listens: Prayers for Every Season&nbsp;</a>
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<a href="https://www.chuckdegroat.net/">Chuck DeGroat</a>
<a href="https://jungiancenter.org/">Carl Jung</a>
<a href="https://merton.org/chrono.aspx">Thomas Merton</a>
<a href="https://www.henrinouwen.org/about-henri-nouwen">Henri Nouwen</a>
<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis%203&amp;version=NIV">Genesis chapter three</a>
<a href="https://www.chuckdegroat.net">www.chuckdegroat.net</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1496483189">Who You&rsquo;re Becoming</a>
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<a href="https://www.missionsinhaiti.com/about-us">David and Alicia Lloyd</a>
<a href="http://www.missionsinhaiti.com">www.missionsinhaiti.com</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0802439055">Strong to the End</a>
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Interview Quotes:
&ldquo;We&rsquo;re often wrestling with this invitation of the second half of life where there is some sense that the rules of the first half of life don&rsquo;t work any longer, and that there&rsquo;s a deeper realization that they&rsquo;re being invited to.&rdquo; - Chuck DeGroat&nbsp;
&ldquo;I think that the work that I invite others into, and the work I&rsquo;ve had to do myself, is some detangling from the identity of that first half of life. What I thought I needed to chase after&mdash;that usually comes with a lot of should&rsquo;s. And we&rsquo;ve got to trace that story back often to early childhood. Where did those should&rsquo;s and ought&rsquo;s come from? And what was the deeper dream? What was the deep longing, the deeper vision?&rdquo; - Chuck DeGroat&nbsp;
&ldquo;You&rsquo;re noticing things that you didn&rsquo;t have time to notice in the first half of life when you were living according to the rules of busyness and proving and protecting. But with that, there are also questions of mortality like, Did it mean anything? What have I lost? Who have I hurt along the way in my busyness and my workaholism?&rdquo; - Chuck DeGroat
&ldquo;God created us with a physiological connection point, or maybe even call it a homing beacon, that reminds us that our deepest longing is for home, is for connection, is for love.&rdquo; - Chuck DeGroat
&ldquo;We stray from home into places that are disconnected, sometimes overwhelmed, sometimes frantic. Sometimes we find ourselves in anxious places, and yet the invitation to my clients, the invitation from God to you and to me, is always to return home.&rdquo; - Chuck DeGroat&nbsp;
&ldquo;There&rsquo;s no fast track to change. There&rsquo;s no microwavable pathway to change. It&rsquo;s slow, and sometimes painful, but it begins with reconnection, and reconnection can only happen when our nervous systems experience a sense of safety. When we know within us, and around us, that we&rsquo;re in a place where we&rsquo;re truly seen and known and held, that&rsquo;s when we can begin to shift in a new direction.&rdquo; - Chuck DeGroat&nbsp;
&ldquo;We had prayed so many times before that [God] would show up in the middle of whatever we&rsquo;re facing, and [He] had showed up, God, like we prayed.&rdquo; - David Lloyd
&ldquo;God did show up, just not the way we had prayed. But God was there.&rdquo; - David Lloyd&nbsp;
&ldquo;For me, my moments of grief, my moments of breakdown, were when I was by myself, which was usually not always the most opportune times.&rdquo; - David Lloyd
&ldquo;I realized that God still does care about us, He does still realize that we&rsquo;re hurting, and we can just call out to Him, and we can say, &lsquo;We need some relief.&rsquo;&rdquo; - David Lloyd
________________________
Enjoy watching these additional videos from Jesus Calling YouTube channel!
Audio Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7">https://bit.ly/3zvjbK7</a>&nbsp;
Video Interviews: <a href="https://bit.ly/4f79RAW">https://bit.ly/4f79RAW</a>&nbsp;
Jesus Listens: Stories of Prayer: <a href="https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx">https://bit.ly/4q5iTCx</a>&nbsp;
Scripture Series: <a href="https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU">https://bit.ly/4wAVGKU</a>&nbsp;
Celebrity Readings: <a href="https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ">https://bit.ly/4bIS5BJ</a>&nbsp;
Video Devotionals: <a href="https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb">https://bit.ly/4fG1kFb</a>&nbsp;
Sleep Meditations: <a href="https://bit.ly/4w0xu37">https://bit.ly/4w0xu37</a> Shorts: <a href="https://bit.ly/3RHFubh">https://bit.ly/3RHFubh</a>&nbsp;
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Millions have been encouraged and inspired by the words of the #1 best-selling 365-day devotional "Jesus Calling." Listen to real-life stories of faith as told by those who have experienced the power of living in His presence.

Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith

Millions have been encouraged and inspired by the words of the #1 best-selling 365-day devotional "Jesus Calling." Listen to real-life stories of faith as told by those who have experienced the power of living in His presence.

Jesus Calling

Coming Home Through the Crisis: Chuck DeGroat & David and Alicia Lloyd

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