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Whatever it takes, gotta keep the pup fed. Thanks guys. I'm happy to be back for my second straight Happy Hour and it's Victory Monday. It's so much better on Happy Hour for a victory Monday. Got a great offensive out put from the team yesterday, their first win of the season coming up today. We're gonna keep it real. Of course, we will answer your fanatic fan questions and a lot of stuff to go over. It was not a perfect win by any means, but it's a lot easier to go over things after a win as opposed to what we have been dealing with. So let me welcome everybody in CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Prisco, Hall of Famer Tony Biselli is with us today. And it's a victory Monday. How how relieved should we be? And is this just the Colts being the cults or did the Jaguars do some good things?
Listen, first and foremost. I think you got to give the Jags the credit. I mean that's an NFL team, and every team has injuries. Now, you could argue they had a bunch. I mean their best player on offense was out. I think they were better off with their backup quarterback Frankly, and I think they had five or six defensive starters and some key ones up front like no Buckner, no Quidye Pay. They also another guy back in camp, Sam bankou Or. I can't say yeah, you want to say it because it's not in front of me, and I I'm gonna butcher it. So I apologize. But with that said, I mean we have injuries where without a starting corner, where without people too, I mean that's the NFL pete. But I think more than anything and we can I want to talk about the offense. Well we're gonna talk about both. Because the defensive collapse in the fourth quarter giving up twenty four points, oh my, I mean we got to talk about that. But overall, the biggest thing that stood out to me and the reason they won this game, forget about the opponent, is because they made plays when they had to, and they made plays that were there I mean, you go back to Miami, if they make plays that are there, they win the game. Probably if you go back to Houston. I mean two deep shots. I mean Trevor hit those this week. He did and he didn't that week and probably the difference of winning. I mean, so you can do that every week and people all the time says, oh, we could have we should be you know, four and one. I'm like, Okay, that's how losing organizations talk like, start talking about if we did this, right, Yeah, you didn't, So let's not worry about that. But let's also celebrate what you did this week, which is played really good football, especially on the offensive side of the ball.
And I think Tony you mentioned this is the offense we were hoping to see, right, we were going to season seeing all these weapons, kind of hoping Trevor could make that jump and find all of them and then the running game.
But I'll say this, yes, I agree with you, kay, But the reality is is the reason they were productive in my opinion, because I thought they were productive against Houston. I mean, the quarterback, Trevor just didn't play well and he played outstanding on Sunday. But the big key is and Pete, I don't know if you agree with me or not. The offensive line back to back weeks played outstanding football. And I'm the like, I'm the biggest O line apologist because I think it's the most important once you have a quarterback. There's nothing more important on a team than establishing an offensive line that can set the tone for the entire team. And I thought they played just not good football for three weeks. You know, as a unit, we can break down each individual. Actually we're not going to do that. It is what it is. The last two weeks they played really good football. Now they have moments, like every offense line is moments during a game where you're you wish he was cleaner in certain places and everything else. But overall, you go watch the last two weeks and especially Indie, they were dang right dominant at times in physical and pushing people and getting to the next level. And Pete, I was critical of this group. I said they look like they bought a ticket on certain plays of watching, not one time in that Indie game did I feel like guys were stopping before the whistle.
I mean there were a couple not Cam Robinson did it on a run and play and his man came down and made the play. Anton Harrison did it on a run and play and his guy came down.
That finish, that finish that you like.
You always talk about backside on the backside, particularly if they hold those just for a little bit longer, then the runner gets up the field and that guy doesn't come down and make the tackle.
So there were a couple, but it was better, Okay, I'll give you so. It always can improve. It's never perfect. It's never as good as you thought it was. When you go watch the tape, and it's never as bad as you thought it was, except for the rare instances on both sides. I thought watching the tape this morning, they played winning football, and they played outstanding football. One pressure, No, it's not a great pass rush group, but I don't care. One pressure in today's football, that's a great job. That's an outstanding job. You go look at it.
The rookie from UCLA had been getting pressure.
And he did not. He got nothing. He got nothing. And then if you watch the run game, like my only criticism the way tanks going, you gotta give more than ten carries or eleven carries whatever, you're twelve whatever he had. I like, let's feed the rock to hymns more because the way he's running and the way that offensive line blocked the last two weeks, it's really it's really fun to watch. So kudos to the group because listen at zhe to four and all the noise. You know, if you go back to last week, we had reports of Doug losing the locker room, which every player says ridiculous. You had questions of what's going on, and you know, pointing fingers and you know this group and that group, and all the noise. Fire this guy, fire them. I mean, it was the fire fest last week. If you were on X and in those situations you find out what kind of team you have. I think I really believe in what kind of locker room you have. And I give those guys a ton of credit, starting with Doug and his entire staff and all those guys in that locker room, because it's the easy button is just to check out and just think about yourself and do whatever's best for you as an individual. The hard thing is digging in and saying, hey, this is a long season. No one thinks we can do it. We do. Let's play the type of football we believe we can. Let's continue to get better each week. And that's what they did. And it was a great offensive performance, and I'll say this, it was a really good defensive performance. With three quarters, it kind of went away. And at the end of the.
Let me get to the to the elephant in the room, and that's the quarterback.
The quarterback looked different. And I know you talked we can talk about the offensive likease. I agree with you.
They played well, but the quarterback tightened up a lot of things. And I went back and watched last week's game and compared it to this week's game. The motion was quicker, the long stride was shorter. I think he got back to his basics. And when you see the ball coming off his hand, it came off differently. You know the shot down the down, the down the field that it was an effortless, easy throw and it wasn't a long stride. He was clean in the pocket. And I went back and I compared it, and I don't know if he saw it setting him out to the throw last week where he was long striding and not his feet weren't facing the right direction.
I think he went back to his basics. Antony.
We talked about this a lot last week. The kid was playing robotic football. He really was, And I the more I thought about it, I didn't even say this last week, but the more I thought about it.
All they preached into him last year was.
Don't turn it over, don't turn it over, don't turn it over, don't turn it over. Well on he turned it over one time in those four losses, so mission accomplished. But he wasn't playing quarterback. He's playing robotic football.
I think he's playing it to he's safe.
Yes, that's exactly what it was.
Pete. I might take a little I might take a little bit different position on this. I'm not saying you're wrong. And because I didn't, I mean you, I didn't study and compare the footwork and everything week to week. So and Pete, I trust Pete's you know eyes, and he does his work watching film. I think the reason one of the reasons. I think also the coaching staff handled it the right way in game planning this week. If you go watch the first quarter, every throw was a checkdown or a quick stick route underneath. And I think it goes back to what we talked about last week. On the show, the three of us about almost like a a three point shooter who can't hit the broadside of a barn. Hey, let's get some layups. Let's see the ball go through the net. And I think what they were saying, I think they simplified it. And basically I don't know this for sure, but watching the tape is like, if the first guy's not there, check it down, first guy, check it out, just like, let's get completions and then give those backs and tight ends and the receivers a ton of credit because what they did is had some really nice run after the catches where they broke tackles and turned three to four yard games into seven and eighths.
And I think Tony, even those throws to the sideline came out differently.
I'm not I'm not disagree with you, but I'm saying I like what they did. They didn't come out saying we're gonna just open it up, take shots and go for like we're gonna give him some easy throws. And then as you watch the game progress, now all of a sudden you start getting those shots, and all of a sudden, he's comfortable and he's got his confidence and he's seeing it and he's feeling it, and he's being smart with the football. I mean outside the one which I just think he was convinced Brian Thomas uh Thomas Junior was going to just win no matter what if there were three guys. It was a terrible decision. He had Kirk like, listen, that's gonna happen.
Yeah, but there should have been a penalty for the linebacker got his hands on Kirk, you know, knocked him off his route. But once Kirk got up, he should have should have went here.
On that one.
He predetermined where he was going with the football. That was a prestat predetermined and he does that. Sometimes you can't do that.
Every quarterback that does that. Sometimes every quarterback wants to take a shot. They got their guy running the route they like, and they just think it's gonna be there and they make their mind up. That happens.
Unfortunately, when he threw that ball, we were watching on TV and I said, and I couldn't see it on on the thing, but I said, I guarantee you as somebody underneath wide open, because usually when there's three guys around, somebody on those places open. And a minute and then when I want to watch the tape today. So well, there's Cook Kirk in the middle of the field, but there should have been a penalty. Yeah, and they didn't call that, you know, Tony. The one thing I give them credit for. They rather slot fade to the big fella for the long get Yeah, huh, that was different.
Let me tell you one thing. You better not sit even for a half a second. I'm Brian Thomas Jr. Because that kid and the funny thing watching it from the booth. As soon as he caught it, I'm like, done gone. There's nobody on that field catching Brian Thomas Jr. It's just not gonna happen.
And the still in air trying to die.
It was awesome. I loved it.
They cut that kid today. The Colts, by the way, did that.
Yeah, well he probably should because I know the coverage that because being with Gus, I know exactly what coverage that was. And he's not supposed to sit. He's supposed to be over the That's what Brian said.
He's like, he looked and he's like, oh, did Trevor already throw it? Like why is he doing that? He's like, oh no, and he's.
Not supposed to sit. He's supposed to be over the top and in that coverage and TV give Trevor corn. Yeah, the corner is the outside corner. It's a combo and if if number two goes vertical, that outside corner has got to get over to be over the top. And he sat and you just can't do that.
I don't know what he was. He was sitting on the shorter route with.
Yeah, but the underneath, the other core, the inside corner is supposed to is the flat player. It's it's it's it's a combination cover too. They it's they change it up, and that corner is supposed to trying to trap the offense. That corner is supposed to sit in the flat and he has underneath route which they're happy to let you throw. Go throw that four or five yard pass. That's fine. That outside corner is supposed to be over the top.
Right, and that's the play that will hurt you.
And so you're trying to track. It's what it is.
It's a variation of cover too. You just switch it up.
That's exactly right, exactly right, and so but listen, offensively, Trevor was great. Tank Bigsby had a day, not just a day. He had a day that he has played well all year. He played great in the preseason, he had a great camp. And I got a lot of heat at the beginning of the year when I said that I thought Travis Bigsby, I mean Tank Bigsby was the best pure running back, and everyone thought I was taking a shot at Travis. I think Travis is a I love Travis on our team, and Travis can do so much in the passing game, and he gets in space and he's explosive. But as a pure running back between the tackles, Tank has a physicality and the ability to cut in the hole and be patient that I just think is unique, and I would be giving him the ball more. Now. He got lucky on the first Touchdow.
He got pushed in.
No, the ball comes loose before he comes in, and that ball bounced right back to him, And that could easily, as it was sitting on the turf, been picked up by anyone else. Now it would have been reviewed because it's really close whether he crossed or not. But I watched the replay and that that ball's moving and he's trying to secure it before he crosses. Now, what they would have called. Who knows, but I think the only thing he fell on it though, so it didn't matter. My point is, Pete, that thing was sitting in the end zone by itself for a little bit, and if the Colts would have fallen on it, it would have been a disaster. I'm just saying, let me say something about him, real peop.
Okay, somebody put on Twitter he reminded me of somebody.
Stop. He does not. He does not remind him of him unless he's unless he's two thirty and runs four two nine and can he gives it and can jump cut two gaps at one time. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to hear it.
He's compared to a guy who should be in can and that's not fair to the guy again.
And it's not fair to the kid either. Yo.
There's a couple of runs that I will be a little technically critical on for him, and you'll you know what's one I'm talking about where he should have just kept going straight and try to pop it to the side. Then and then there was a run late in the game where if he just hits it right up in the rights of the guard instead of pop it to the outside, he gets about four or five yards instead of none.
But here's the thing. But here's the thing with that, he's a young backstill. This is really, this is really his first opportunity to see it. And I remember because I was on the team when he was a rookie. The greatest running back in the history of this franchise, and I agree with Pete should be in the Hall of Fame, Fred Taylor. And there were times when Fred would try to do too much because he had the ability to do anything he wanted.
Let me try this out.
And if you watched him progress as he matured as running back, there was nobody better than finding the hole and getting north and south and finishing runs. And so that's just reps and that's just you know, him doing it more and more. And and this is what I always want to remind everyone. Rarely, if ever is are is an individual going to play a perfect football game. There's always when you watch the tape, something that something you can get better at. I played a lot of football from high school to college in the pros. Never once in my entire life have I played a game and watched the tape and said that was perfect. There wasn't one play I could have done better. It just does not work that way, especially the higher you are. And I'm not saying you're wrong, Pete, I'm not saying you're wrong.
The kid, the kids, the kid has improved greatly. Also looks like he's leaner by the way.
I didn't know he was that fast. Did you know he was that fast? I think no.
I think he's leaned up from a year ago, and I think that shows in the way he runs a little bit.
When he got in the open field against India, I'm like, oh, he'll get caught. Someone will catch him, one of the DB's and he just try to pull away from people. Yeah, what did does anyone know what he ran in the forty at the combine? I'll find out.
We'll check out which we're gonna go to break real quick, draft the guy in the first round.
Okay, we're not going to talk about that, all right.
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Hunkering down and not looking and listening to anything, honestly, and I'm going to continue to do that even when you have a good game. I mean, it's that stuff doesn't matter. You know, you can't listen to the good or the bad. So I do think stuff that does get through, And I'm sure there's a lot of questions like.
What's going on with Jacks, what's this? What's that?
After four weeks and good, you know, we'll use that as a chip on our shoulder and have that us against the world of mentality and bring us closer together.
And I think that that's what good teams do.
So but I also think you don't want to let that stuff creep in because it's really about the guys in that building and the work we put in, and.
You know, it's I'm just proud of the group. It is a great.
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I do.
I do, And and again, you know, the weapons help, the protect shouldn't really helped. But I just saw a different guy out there. The way he threw the ball, the way the ball came off his hand, the mechanics were better. When you have a tendency as a long strider, the ball goes high. That's usually the way it is. And I think he tightened it up a little bit and the ball was more accurate. And I think that's the biggest thing he made it the throw. Look, the throw he made to Thomas is a seven on seventh throw that any NFL quarterback should make. But he made it easy. That was an easy flick of the wrist. Ball there, boom, God, play over. And I think that's been the difference with him this year. Nothing has looked easy. It hasn't looked easy at all, not the entire season. And so I think this is the first time where it actually looked like he was playing free, loose, comfortable, and he made it look easy. And I think that's the biggest difference between the early games and this one.
I love that he says he doesn't listen to anything. That'd be my advice to any.
He's also lying I had to do this age.
If I could tell my younger self, especially in this age, I don't even have social media. I don't even look at the paper, don't look at anything like just be oblivious. I would. I would have tried feet every little thing that I wrote about that team and the law I didn't say I did a good job with it. That's my advice to a younger Tony.
And you could have given yourself that advice.
There's no way that would ever.
You don't think You don't think I could pull that off feet.
Like me saying that I would never listen to what guy said about me.
One side note, and I don't want to. We don't have to dive into this too much. I sure appreciate how Trevor handles himself at the podium. Yes, I just really do. And I and since he doesn't listen to anything, he I'll hear this, But I appreciate it. I really like good, bad and different. He shows up, he answers questions, he's respectful. It's not easy, especially after what he's been through the first four weeks. He hasn't played the way he wanted to. Team hasn't played through the expectations. People questioning. He hears even if he doesn't read it, he hears the noise and it just doesn't He doesn't allow it to impact how he communicates to the fans, which is through the media. And I appreciate that. And that's not easy, and all joking aside. Pete's probably right, there's no chance in it. You know what, I would not read stuff and I got And Pete will tell you I got crusty with the media at times when it was going bad. No, it's shocking. I know, kay shocks you. And sometimes that's fine. I'm not saying it's wrong to get crusty with the media sometimes, but I just like, as the quarterback, it's hard because everything's on you. It was much easier as an offensive lineman than the quarterback. So I appreciate that. The second thing I would say is, and Pete, I've always been I've been a believer that Trevor is gonna win super bowls. Here at ozen four. I believe that. I mean, he's our guy, and I hope Pete is right that this was a turning point. He's gonna be tested next week against the Bears. That is a really good defense and Eba Fluis is a very good defensive coordinator and that's a good front seven. That line's gonna be tested, and I think they're up to it, and Trevor's gonna be tested, and so this is gonna be a good next step. I'm glad we had this success we did, so there's confidence going into that game because this is gonna this is gonna look ugly at times, and that's okay. NFL games are ugly at times because when you play really good teams with really good players, it's not always perfect. And this is where and this is why I go back to for the offensive line, where finishing is so important, because if you have that finishing attitude, and not just offense line, but the whole team, sometimes sometimes ugly turns into points and turns into victories. It doesn't have to be perfect all the time, but just that physicality and that finish in that attitude. Sometimes we'll just produce the success you need. And I especially offense, our offense against this defense coming up. And we're not going to dive too much into the Bears, cause we have plenty And I want to talk about this defense. Our defense. That's a good defensive side of the football, and it's and it's an ascending offense. If you look at the last two weeks, what they've done. Now you can question the opponents and everything else.
Yeah, the opponents have been very good.
I agree with that people, But people can say the same thing about what we just did against the Colts.
That's true, no difference, that's true, but they're not the Colts on as bad as the Caroline Panthers.
Though on defense you could argue right now with the injuries, it might not be much of a difference. Best player. Yeah, I look, I'm not, I'm not. I'm just saying.
Before we get to the Bears, I want to say something about Trevor real quick, and you touched on something I think is the guy handles himself like a pro when he comes to the podium, in large part because he was forced to as a as a rookie. Remember, he used the face of the franchise.
We had a head coach. He couldn't get out of his own wife.
So the head coach, the head coach wouldn't wouldn't answer the question. So he put the quarterback up there every single week. And so I wanted to say something about that. But here's the number two part of that, Tony. Pretty soon, that's all you're gonna get from these players.
Well, I know they're changing the locker room rules, which I read that article ridiculous. I read that article and I said, Pete Prisco right now is cursing here, Pa just cursing him? It makes no sense to me. Well, I don't want to dive into piece.
You're saying it's sad to the players because you might not get to know these guys anymore the way you used to be able to get to know guys, and I think that hurts them to the fans, and I think it we're always a conduit to the fans.
I just show what we're conduit to the fans. Pe'te. I agree with you, You know I do, because I thought the relationship with the media number when I enjoyed the back and forth. We had great beat writers like Pete and John Osher and you know calmnists like Mike Bianchi and Fornt. I mean it was we had a good time.
Oh you just didn't want to say. For those that don't know what you're talking about.
NFL.
Yeah, the NFLDH I put out a notice that they don't want the media in the locker room during the week. It doesn't apply to postgames, so it's just during the week hang out. That's how you kind of talk to players, build that relationship.
Everything from the podium.
Basically, they want everything from the podium. I think it was like that in twenty twenty, so they kind of want to go back to that. And so basically you can go in, but you have to ask a player, and if they want to go outside to talk to you, that's where they will talk to you instead of in the locker room.
And I think with the PA, to take the PA side, they're saying the locker room should be for players only, which I get. The second thing is I think they look at social media and they feel like that is becoming a major condo to the fans.
And they can communicate themselves and they.
Can communicate what they want to communicate to the fans. Now that's all being true, I still think you lose something because you get information, you get a perspective that's different from the media, and especially those local beat writers. I really always appreciated what I mean back when I played. I mean those guys, I mean Pete, they worked like dogs. I mean they were and sometimes I wanted to kick them and.
Some guys actually trying and some guys did.
I did not, but you did not. But I but I appreciated the back and forth with the media back then and ended up becoming pretty good friends with a lot of them. The Pete's one of my good friends.
So well, here's Tony, here's my problem with it.
Okay, and I'm I know we're gooding off track here, but I.
Just think it needs to be said because I think it's it's not great for the fans.
Okay. Social media is there.
Guys can send out their whole message, right, There's no doubt about it.
One of the things that I always prided myself on.
And you will test to this because you know, if I wrote something that was contra versil, I showed up the next day and I took my heat, and I didn't mind taking the heat. Now, we had some guys Mike Bianki who always wrote something and said I'm.
Not going there on Monday going.
He would disappear, Yeah, I go, you're going.
And I tried to talk him into going and he wouldn't go. And I think that's a terrible thing. But that's what's gonna happen. That's where they're headed. If I were covering the Jaguars and there's no locker room access and the only way I can get to players I request him and he comes outside and talks to me.
Well, what about when I write something.
Critical of the team or the organization or whatever I got, I can't go in the locker room and face my music.
I'm going to accountability.
Yeah, no accountability, right, And so I think that's part of the problem.
Yeah, that's fair. That's a great perspective. Bet. I didn't think of that, but I think you're right. Let's come back. When we come back, I let's let's talk about the defense. Because as big of a story that the offense was that they've showed up and they executed and they played well, and they were explosive and put points on the board at a high rate, it was a defense that almost felt like it forgot how to play the last quarter. I mean, gave up ten points in three quarters, seven in the first drive, and then locked it down and then gave up twenty.
That was a fourth down conversion for the touchdown, that's.
Right, and then gave up twenty four in the fourth. Yes, that's a problem there, that's a problem.
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It was big.
It's good to see him, you know, take this step forward. He and the d line have been really close to get into the quarterbacks here in these first you know, month of the season, and I'm proud of those guys for the way they've stuck together and.
Continue to work Ted coach Doug Peterson talking about Trayvon Walker the day he had yesterday. Welcome back to Happy Hour. I' Kindannie Stevens, Tony Biselli, Pete Prisco with us here today, and let's talk a little bit about that defense because they played. Some players played well, but there were issues. And I say specifically in the fourth quarter, Tony you mentioned I do the postgame interview. I went out there, They're up two touchdowns. I was like, Oh, it's fine, and then all of a sudden the games tied. Oh never mind.
My wife left early. My wife and daughter and son all left.
Early, missed all the fun.
And I'm driving home and like, I'm like, where are you? And I got already home, Like oh, She's like, we just left at the it was over. Like what do you mean when'd you leave? She was, we are four teams, like five minutes left, Like the whole game happened in the life five minutes. Let's start with Trayvon and then we'll get into the fourth quarter. Let's start positive the two. The third sack was just terrible execution by the Cults of what they're trying to do. They're trying to get flap outside so you could throw a bomb. And Trayvon did the smart thing. He just ran inside and know one touched, Yeah, so take that. Yeah that's ended again. He picked off, but he had another one. He had some really nice rushes and and I think part of it is like Trayvon is who Trayvon is. Trayvon is not going to be get on your edge, swat, spin, swat the hands, spin whatever. He is going to be a speed and then power you impress you to the quarterback and come off and get on an edge. And I think what he did to that to Braden Smith, the right tackle, who's a good player. I mean he hammered with him with power early and that and and Trayvon is a strong guy and got Braiden worried about the power and started to lean where now he could go to work. And I thought the biggest play of the game looking back was the sack fumble at the end of the first half. Huge. I thought that was the biggest play because the Colts were getting ready to go.
We had just turned it up there, we had just turned over.
Gabe Davis with the fumble. They have it and get a first down. Now they're near midfield probably, you know, plenty of time, they had timeouts, they could have got a couple more plays and gotten field goal range. And now all of a sudden, we're down thirteen ten, going a halftime, and all of a sudden, you look up. I was on the field because I was getting ready to do Tom's and Conflin's induction, and you see Tray Vaughn get the strap the sack strip, Josh picks it up. Cam Little's walking out to the field. Thirteen ten were up. It's a six point swing, and the game ended up being a three point game. But I always got three.
It's a six point swing.
Well, I think they would have my point. I mean to first down Spete and they you know, but let's okay, let's just say three points went fine. End up being a three point game, but more more than the end result because a lot of things happened the last five minutes, which we're about to talk about. It was the momentum and the feeling going into halftime.
Yes, and that's the sha what we had feeling.
It was the opposite and knowing you're getting the ball back and knowing like, hey, we just made a play when we had to and defense, and like there was there was energy in the whole building, and you know there's energy in that locker room. I just thought that was such a It was a great rush by Trayvon. It was good to see him get going because I think, you know, people have been critical and he hasn't been getting a lot of pressure and everything else, and they look at PFF and win rate and all this different stuff. Bottom line is he played a heck of a game. He's been very good against the run all year. He's very physical and if he can get that pass rush going like he did on Sunday, it's gonna be a It's gonna be huge because now you have both sides collapsing. And if you watched Flacco for a lot of that game, after the first drive, the pocket was getting squeezed by bullsa by both Josh and Trayvon, which was nice to see.
Yeah, if they only had a little pressure into the middle.
They that's still a struggle the internal pressure.
Yeah, look, Trayvon Walkers. Look, the problem is he's being compared to a Hutchinson.
That's the problem.
Who's because he's a good football player. Is a good football player, and if you look at his sack numbers. His sack numbers are impressive, and that was a good performance. I mean on the on the the one sack that was was did heinds Allen get credited with the one sack?
I think he did.
Yeah, But well, what.
Happened there is Trayvon wins. Trayvon is inside is actually getting pushed down by Braden Smith, so he wouldn't have gotten the sack, but he made Flacco move enough, and Josh had a really nice power rush on the other side, and as soon as Flacco moved a foot to get out of the way of Trayvon, there's Josh making the sack. So really good complimentary football by both guys.
Yeah, but that's why he gets compared to Hutchinson.
That's the biggest part of the problem.
Well, but that's the way it's going to be, Pete, because this organization had an opportunity to pick Traymon Walker or Aiden Hudchson as the first overall pick, and Aiden Hutchson going into last week at least or this week. Yeah, probably still because they had to buy I believe had the highest win percentage. It does, and he has the most pressures in the league. The most pressure's highest win percentage in like six and a half sas after four games, and they didn't play this week. They didn't play this week, right, And so that is what it is. And my message because listen, I got friends and on text messages and boy, they'd like to wear out that point a lot. My point is like, Okay, that's the past.
That will never change.
It's never changing. So Trayvon Walker is our defensive end. And let me tell you what I know about Trayvon Walker. He's a supreme athlete who's really physical and disruptive every game I've watched him in the run. He is a guy who can power rush you and make it very uncomfortable for offensive tackles and push the pocket. Would I like him to take his rush game up a level to have more consistent wins and more pressure. Absolutely, But right now where he's at as a player is really good on first and second down. Physical, Like, not many tight ends are gonna block Terry.
Von Walker, not by themselves.
Not by themselves. He beats up offensive tackles a lot of times in the run game. He just needs to continue to improve his pass rush to be to be more consistent. Yeah, but he's like but Tony.
There were flashes of that Sunday where like you said, he was going smack Dad with his power, and then he started getting.
Well because he would still power, but then he'd get on an edge, turn the shoulder, get up field, squeeze the corner. He had some nice inside moves, but they're all like he is a power rusher. He's never going to be Aiden Hutchinson, who does arm slaps and spins and rips and everything else and then occasionally powers.
Well, they technically have two power rushers.
And Josh Allen's a power rusher. But let me tell you what, Aiden Hutchinson will never be the run defender that Trayvon Walker is no and so like, stop comparing them because they're always going to be compared. It's okay fans do that. I'm saying when we talk about them, I think the focus on the development and what he does and what he brings to this team. And you saw that firsthand on Sunday. When he is playing and has a good rush plan, and especially against tackles who struggle with any type of power, he is going to be really effective. Now is he going to struggle more? When you get a big right tackle. Who's good against power.
Yes, we go back to that play real quick.
They took over with what six seconds last five, but they kicked the field goal right away.
Yeah, and then they ended up because they had to kick off. Yeah, because Pete, they were at I think they they were at the twenty five where it ended up. We'll see right here.
So you shut down, Thank goodness, because I was like, he's not gonna make it, and if he runs out this clock then they're not even Yeah, he.
Got to the ten. I don't think I would have taken a shot at the end zone.
Not enough time.
No, But did they end up kick kicking off?
Yeah, thank you forget. Yes, they kicked off and they took a knee.
Okay, wait they kicked off. Jacksonville kicked off.
Yeah, they kicked off for the end zone right only one second somehow ran off okay, okay, but they had to time out.
So if you were going to kick the field goal, why didn't you take a knee with three seconds, call timeout and then kicked You didn't have.
To kick off. Yeah, you could have done that, I think. Yeah.
I mean, I'm a again, I'm a stickler for game management and you don't why even subject yourself to having to kick off when you didn't need to. They had two timeouts, So take the staff, take a knee, kicked the play on the last, very last.
Play the game of the half.
Because there's no way that snap got away. You could go get it and call time out and kick it on.
You know what I'm saying. No, No, would you have Would you have taken a shot five seconds like a quick slap to the end zone enough time as I would not even I would not have either, No, but I.
Would have taken I would have taken the knee with three seconds and then kicked it on the final play so I didn't have to kick off. What let's just say in that scenario, if he kicked off, it didn't make it to the end zone and they returned it for a touchdown.
Have you watched Cam Little? He can kick it in those He can kick it in the first row if he wants to.
Why even subject okay, say pulls his hamstring on the kickoff that, I mean, why even why even let it become a factor?
Pete? I actually get your point. I just don't care enough to engage you in that conversation, right, now I'm not saying you're wrong.
Hey, Kyle, you know what that means. He freezes me and he doesn't want it.
Okay, we got to come back because we still haven't gone to the fourth quarter because I thought this game. I thought this game was over when we had a two possession of lead and all of a sudden, Joe Flacco is throwing bombs to whatever fourteen's they pierce, pierce and just look and run, running, torturing us just like a complete torch job. This guy didn't have a target until the last two dry and they is three for like one fifty at the end. I'm like, what the heck happened? All right?
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Well, if you go back even one drive before, we were fortunate to flock over through Mohali.
Cox because he was open on that as well.
Now that was just a good route and maybe a little push off by him. But you're up fourteen and the year, I believe it was up fourteen with six minutes left to go in the game, and at that point like you can't let anything behind you, like you just like nothing can get behind you. And it starts with an acrobatic play by Pierce the one handed and that okay, fine covers by Monterrey Brown. But then they come right back, they come right back to him with the deep show.
Those I don't know what those under underneath guys.
Right here look at this, like, what are we doing? How do you let get back?
That looks like it was on Cisco.
But I also think if you're Monteric Brown, don't you have to play over the top Pat? I mean like, yeah, but you know he's got it.
He let him get He got no hands on him at the line of scrimmage. That was a problem.
And then I would die like I don't know why he's not bailing and just saying, if you want to catch a fifteen yard comeback, be my guest.
But if you go back and look at the overhead on that, I think if I remember watching that play, Cisco kind of looks into the middle and hesitates for a second before he gets over the top on that.
I don't know what it is, but it was bad. And then and then you have the over route. Yeah that was then well then we go three and out, So now's a seven point game, and I'm like, are you kidding? Here we go and then they get an over route to piers and like, I don't know what the backside corner or safety is doing.
Well, he's jumping. You can see him jump.
So I understand that. But if it's covered two, you don't jump it. You're in the back half. I don't know what covers you're in or if it's a cover three and the safety is supposed to be deep because if you.
Know what it looked like, it looked like watching it looks like he's a robber.
That's what I'm saying. So that means it has to be three because look right, So he's got to because the other side is playing three.
Right, it looks like it looks like three with a robber.
And so that's not on Cisco, that's on on the other split safety or the corner.
Has the other corner the other corner is to carry him. What's he doing? Yeah, he's got a deep third. I don't know, but I don't know that was it.
We're making run Can we run that again?
We could with the with the with the arrow on it. In fairness, were kind of making up what covers is we think it is?
No, no, you can see it.
It's it is a three because the guys the safeties looks they open a split safeties and they look like they drop.
They drop it down. I think it's three, but I don't know. Maybe maybe it was man. Maybe on this side Montera Brown is supposed to carry him all the way. Maybe it's man. I have no idea.
Let's see how he plays it. That is a man.
Well, the other guy's playing man.
So somebody's wrong.
But who is I don't know who's wrong. It's not it's the way Monterrek Brown play that.
That's not it.
That's it's It looks like three to me.
Yeah, it looks like three, and it looks like the corner on the other side supposed to get depth and play that.
But here's my problem. Up fourteen with six minutes left? Is that am i? Am I doing the math right? Or is it four forty two? I can't remember the clock twice, but anyways, I think it was.
I think it was under five.
Yeah, I think it was under five. I think it was four forty two. Like you like, at that point, you don't get beat. You know this, nothing gets over the top. You call a defense and you tell your guys keep everything in front of us, like make them, make them take five or six plays to if they're gonna score, Like make them use clock. And there was just it was like one shot after another. I'm like, what the heck is going on?
I mean the look on Ryan Nielsen's face. Put the camera on him, Oh my god, he looked like he was shell shocked. It was unbelievable.
He had You should have. I'm glad they didn't put the camera on me because I was like, what are we doing?
I guarantee you.
Everybody in that stadium was saying, here they go again, guarantee it.
Oh yeah, I mean, I'd be lying if I didn't think. In the back of my head. In the back of my head, I'm like, what are we doing? We cannot give this away. We've played too well. Now give the offense credit because they tied up with two, you know, two twenty left man Trevor got the ball and said okay, and there was They didn't blink. They worked right down the field. They used the clock effectively. They forced Shane.
Stike hit a good throw against the blitz.
They they forced Shane Styke and to start using his timeouts.
Got that big run to get ahead of it too.
It was great.
You know what's amazing though? How long was that field goal?
What was it? Fifty forty nine?
Were forty nine years.
Ago, they would have never just ran it three times and settled for the forty nine yarder.
But these kickers are unreal nowadays.
That's like, that's like a thirty five yarder. When I played Pete it is at that point too, it didn't matter. It was like, there's no doubt. It was like I watched him walk on the field like he was calm, he was worried.
He's the best fifteen year old kicker I've ever seen.
Is that he's great.
Wa wa when does he turn fifteen?
I mean it'steen coming up?
He is, and he's a weapon.
I mean held that that was forty nine yards and it could have been good from sixty oh easy and yeah and and so that's why you play that differently nowadays, Tony.
Back in the day, you would have never run it three times and just settled.
I don't think you would have. Just you tried to get you to have tried to get Hall since I mean, Hall's made some fifty plus feederals, a lot of them, but you are still trying to get it inside forty. I would say, yeah.
Nowadays, it's these guys are amazing.
So it worked out the end, but boy, they made it interested and the final five minutes.
But defensively, Like I like the two things that I worry about with our defense because if you look at the first four games, they didn't give a lot of very many points. With the time of possession. They couldn't get off the.
Field getting Yeah, they were ninety yard drives, eighty yard drives on.
The field all the time, and that combined and then we saw them just fall apart in the fourth quarter of this game. But really, and then you combine that with the slow starts. I mean, every team gets outside of the Dolphins. The Dolphins didn't do much if I remember correctly, I don't think they scored the first drive. Maybe they did, maybe they got a field goal. But anyways, I know the Browns did, I know the Texans did, and and the Bills and.
And well they rotated the starters out after one point.
Then here come the Colts and they just marched down and get seven. Like it's nothing like we got a fast starter. Get we still have to start faster as a team.
We need to talk more about the.
Defense and how to get a stuff when you need.
One, and get a stop when you got and you have to get a stop.
Absolutely all right, victory Monday, we finally got some stuff to talk about. Coming up in the second hour, we will go all over the details and highlights and some of the things they need to work on coming up on Jaguars Happy Hour perscenta by Jet Homelands.
It's more like sometime when you make a big blade, your mind go blink and your your your instincts takeover. So and those opportunities come upind like, you don't know what's you just your your instincts takeovers. But afterwards, you know it come back to reality and you get get down and you see I'm like, dang, gots your scroll and uh, you go out and give my mom the law.
It felt very dank thiks. We had a day yesterday two touchdowns, blackedown on that run apparently, but remember to give the football to his mom, so that's always good. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. Second hour brought to you by mister Chubby's Wings. Before the game, after the game, and during the game. It is a victorious happy Hour today. Tony Pselli Pete Prisco with me. I'm kin Nannie Steven's in for JP Shadwick and we get to talk about a win for once now. A great day from Prevor Lawrence. We saw two touchdowns, that one interception, but three hundred and seventy one passing yards. He did a good job of hitting those throws. We kind of criticized him for missing the week before, corrected that Jags defense blowing that lead. As we just discussed, we're up. The Jags are up by two touchdowns and then all of a sudden they weren't. But they were able to get the win thanks to Cam Little with that huge field goal late a sack to walk things off. The Jags are now one and four. The wind doesn't change everything, Tony, but it does make things a little more palatable when you go back to look at the tape.
A win changes everything.
Oh it's everything's different.
I apologize everything. Let me tell you what. The food tastes better, you're better looking, you like your partner better, your kids are nicer, Like the sky's bluer. Like it's everything is better, and it solves everything. It's like I always say, like if you have a great grist, it really doesn't matter what the meat is because the gravy's so good, you just cover it up. And a win and coach Kauflin and I were talking about this at halftime and we were talking about, gosh, we need a win, we need to win. And I looked at him and I said, I said, it's a lot more fun coach making corrections after a win. And he looked at me smiled, and he says, you stole that from me. I said, I know, because it is. It just makes everything better. Now, does it mean that you're gonna win the next one?
No?
Does it mean that you're like you've solved every problem you have? Noop, But it makes everything better, and it makes things a lot more fun. And you should energize you and you should want to go get better, and you should want to get back on that practice field. You should want to watch film, and you should want to get ready for Chicago, because now you know what it tastes like and what it feels like. You remember, it's been a long time. You remember what it feels like to win, and you want that feeling a lot more than you want the feeling from the first four weeks. So to me, winning cures all and now it's what you do with it that really matters, because its.
Also saves the season. It saves the season. Five you were dead. Yes, yeah, so it saves the season, it gives you it, and so from that perspective, you're one hundred percent correct, Tony.
It gives you life.
And now you get on a plane to go to London and you have life. If they if they didn't win that game, they go to London lifeless.
Basically, Yeah, I agree. I thought I think it would have been a disaster because beats right. You go to London now, and what your thought process is, it's always one game. But London's unique because you're leaving for two games, and so you like, just like naturally, you kind of combine the two and is if you're thinking about you're like, okay, we got two games. Got to focus only on Chicago because it's all matters. But we have a chance to fly back to Jacksonville in ten days, three and four, and right in the thick of everything, right in the middle of it, we're at home, got the packers coming in. Boy, we can find our way to you know, doing something with the season after a terrible start. Now, you can't get too far ahead of yourself because that's the danger. But London's unique because it's like you're going to play two games somewhere like in a unique environment. You know, one at taught them and one at wimbley. But boy, it feels Pete's exactly right. You get them that playing, you're like, hey, all right, that's who we are. Because you can tell yourself and you can tell you can tell yourself to be confident, you can tell yourself, you can be good, you can tell your stuff. You can score points and do this and do that. But til you go do it, there's always that little voice in the bag going, eh, man, are we gonna get over the hump? Why can't we finish? Pete's right? So that voice starts whispering when things go wrong, Oh here we go again. It's the worst voice. It's the voice you have to kill because that because you have no chance if you allow that voice to dominate. And now all of a sudden, the voice is like, okay, yeah, that's who we are. Yep, that's who we are. And as an athlete, professional athay, you can convince yourself based off that alone. But you that's what you've been always. You forget the other for what what games you're talking about? I don't remember losing? Don't you see what we just did? And you build on that and get some confidence and get some juice in the building, get some juice in the locker room, and go, you know, go do something special.
I know they'll all say play one game at a time. When play at a time, that whole spiel that every player gives you when they really look out and see what the schedule looks like. But if you look at you talked about it, Tony, if they go and win two games, they're both winnable games. By the way, it's not like there's a dominant team they're going to play. The Bears are pretty good, but they're not a dominant team. They're not one of the elite of the league.
So you can win the Bears, worry meet people will keep yeah.
Because of their defense.
Yeah.
So if you win those two games and you come home and you get the Packers at home. Here, here's what the Texans play the Patriots this week. I'm just throwing this out there. This is their schedule in a through October after next week at Lambeau to play the Packers, which is much tougher to go to Lambeau than is to play them at home. I don't care what any you know that hom Agets, the Colston not very good. At the Jets on a on a Sunday night.
They don't look right now, keep going, but they're pretty good on defense. Yeah, okay, then the Lions they're.
At home, then the Cowboys on the road on a Monday night.
Tough ways.
So yeah, so their schedule gets a lot tougher.
Their tough as well, Ravens Chief.
So if you yeah, if they can, if they can figure it out Jacksonville in the next two weeks and and you can win those two games, you're in it.
You'll be in it.
But again, if they played like they did early in that game, they can win both those games. If they play like they did in the fourth quarter, and they're not gonna win either one of those.
Well, Patriots are very good. But it's not like our schedule is easy. When we get back for London. If we're looking ahead, you got the Packers at home, Eagles on the road, which I think if we unless.
We don't get no, if if.
You win the next two, it might not right. Eagles Vikings only undefeated team at home. Tough, they're good up at the Lions, one of the best teams in the NFL.
Then the late by, right, and then we have a bye.
But then we have the Texans coming here.
Yeah, it's not an easy schedule.
And then it lightens up after that. I mean, you close out with the Jets, the Raiders who aren't very good, the Titans twice, and the Colts again. But and then well they close out they have the Chiefs and the Ravens later, and I agree with that. That's why. But I'm telling you the next seven games, well it really starts. The next two in London are critical. You gotta go win those two because if you come back both, If you come back two and five, you're done.
It's not the same.
Well you're you're two and five, you're gonna get flexed. That's a downer. Then you got Green Bay come in, you go. You gotta got the Vikings, you gotta go to Detroit, you gotta go to Philly. I mean, it gets hard, but I think these are the two most important. Every game is important. Peach right, players coaches, we say one at a time, blah blah blah, which is right, that's how you have to approach it. But we're not players and we're not coaches, so we can step back and look at this, it's mandatory they come back to and oh winning both games in London. If you want to go do something this year, you got you have to come back three and.
Four if they don't. If they don't, then we start talking draft.
Your favorite.
No, we've agreed on this show we did not talk draft until we are eliminated from the playoffs.
You almost were starting a week ago, we were talking about the first overall pick.
Well a cow of times the tables have turned.
We were not talking about the first overall pick.
Have you. We weren't on ere but they were.
If the draft were held, they would have had the first overall pick.
I wasn't talking about it, and we will not talk about it on this show. I have in my contracts, in my contract the ability to state what we will not talk about on the show. And we will not talk about the draft or free agency or any changes or anything else until we are eliminated from the playoffs. All right, which I'm hoping will not be talked. Last week you did, I didn't correct.
All right, let's talk a little bit about those on games. You guys mentioned Chicago, that's the first one up. What scares you the most about the defense? How can the Jaguars go about attacking that.
They got a good front four, they got good path They put the pressure of the quarterback.
Well, one really good pressure the quarterback guy in sweat.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, he's a he's a good player. They are very disciplined. Ever Fuss is a very good coordinator. They do a good job in the back half. I haven't watched tape yet, but ever Fos is known, is known kind of the cover two two high safety guy and a lot of different he can do variations off that. It's a sound unit. They play fast, they play hard. They got talented players. They have one really good player in sweat.
Well too, because Jalen Johnson's a really good.
Corner I think, I mean, I'm saying in the front, sorry, and they got a really good corner. They're they're talented, well coached.
The defense, their corners with Johnson, Stevenson and Gordon when they're playing at their best, that's as good a trio as there is in a league, as good as there is, so, you know, and Stevenson probably hasn't played as well as I thought he would play this year. Johnson's the real deal and Gordon's a heck of a nickel corner.
So that group is talented. That group is really talented.
So if you get pass rushed with coverage, Tony, you know what that means.
That's a problem.
I mean, so the point totals they've given up this year, and for a big part of this with a not very good offense, an offense that could not get out of its own way early in one of the games. They didn't score an offensive touchdown.
On one, yeah, the first one.
So they gave up seventeen to Tennessee.
They lost the not by the way, isn't a very good offense.
But they lost the Texans nineteen thirteen, gave up nineteen to the Texans, gave up twenty one, lost twenty one, sixteen to the Colts, gave up eighteen to the Rams, and gave up ten to the Carolina Panthers.
Okay, the eighteen of the Rams was without Cup and.
I'm not saying that, but I also watched the Rams without those two guys put up some points against the Detroit Lions.
Yeah, that's true.
The Bears are pretty there. I'm not saying it's the eighty five Bears or anything. But that's a solid unit that you're gonna it's gonna be one of the I'll say this, Pete, it'll be one of the better units we've played so far this year.
Defensively correct, yes, yes, yeah.
And the quarterback.
The quarterback is.
Better had he had a one twenty eight rating with three hundred and ten yards or three hundred one yards over three hund yards last week, and with the secondary is here.
They ran the they ran the ball, which just helped him with you know, they finally got swift going a little bit yep, which.
Has helped it. So yeah, their offensive line in great I.
Thought it better than it is.
It is not and that's something that Jacksonville cold take advantage of.
But you're right.
When it comes to the deep, that's going to be your test for him.
We'll see, we'll see if this offensive line really has made strides.
It's I guess the other thing I would say about the offense and what I what I get concerned about, not concerned, is if you do maybe a concern is until this last week, it's not like we were doing a great job of pressuring opposing quarterbacks. And at times, let's not kid ourselves flack out a bunch of time back there and through for three hundred and fifty plus yards.
Correct.
And so as much as we talk about how great Traybon played, which he did, and how Josh has been effective all your pressuring, it's not like we're constant a consistent pressure team with.
Four Well, there's no pressure in the middle at all.
Real And the one thing that I have seen, and I've not watched a ton of them, watch a little bit of it. But if you give Caleb Williams back there, Tom, it gives him, give him time back there. He has weapons outside and the kid can sling it and is unafraid to do it. Now, he does hold it.
He does hold it, That's my point.
He does hold it. But where is he struggled Pete? When they get pressure, he starts running around like a crazy man doing stupid stuff. But if you can't pressure him, that's a problem.
I mean, we haven't talked about the interior pass rush, the non existent interior pass rush.
That's a problem.
And what could you do to make it better, Tony.
Well, if you had more depth of defensive end, you could play Eric Armstead in the three technique more often.
And he played some inside.
He did, but he's also I mean, the backup ends for us are Roy Robinson, Harris and Eric Armstead.
And they should be the interior pass rushers on passing down like.
You get you watch some of the like against sub at times that's your four down rush with some combination of the other guys. So you have four defensive tackles out there rushing the quarterback. Let me tell you what that does not do.
Put a lot of fear into the quarterback.
Into the opposing because you know what you're getting. You're getting at power, you can sit on it. You're not worried about the speed.
And Armsteard is not the same player, and he's not the same player he as inside.
He just isn't.
No, And so one of the things you could do is go get some depth at defensive end, so you could play Armstead and Walker in the middle more because they're probably your two best pass rushers.
Is there anyone out there to go get right now?
No? So no, there is no.
They didn't address it in the offseason.
I never to this day. I don't understand that, and I don't Maybe he was a bad guy. Maybe he was bad in the locker room, maybe the coaches. Hey, I don't know, so I'm not. I'm not. But I never understood the trade because because we didn't have anyone to replace him, and you got a six rounder for him. So I didn't understand that move. And the only backup true defensive ends you kept was Cole who hasn't been active since Week one. And Abdulah can play end and sub, but he's we haven't seen great pass rushers from him since he's been here. I think his natural position is much better at SAM but he was hurt last week, so I didn't play. So I don't know the answer. I really don't. But you got a pressure, and you gotta pressure quarterbacks in this league, and if you don't, they're gonna tear you up.
And and if you only pressure from the outside and there's no pressure on the inside, they'll just step up away from it. I mean that they gotta have somebody push that pocket in the middle. Here's the other thing, and again I'm gonna go back to my pet peeve. First series of the of the on defense, get a first down, off they come, let's bring the backups back in. Now we'll get the They jumped over the boards. They got in their hockey. They keep them over the boards and it was their turn to play their line. I don't understand it. Three plays three three plays and they're off.
What are they doing?
They're winded, so they keep it.
Fresh for the fourth quarter. Did you see how fresh.
They were late in the game? All right, Sam, real quick before we go, peak question for you. How is DeMarcus Walker playing at the other end opposite Sweat?
Okay, not great.
I just haven't watched. I was just looking at their depth chart and I didn't know. I didn't even know what DeMarcus Walker signed there. All right, the Gator.
Stay with us here on Jaguars Happy are presented by mister Chubby's Wings coming back. We are going to keep it real about the offensive line.
This is the second week in a row, really that our line has played good as a unit, you.
Know, and listen, I mean.
It's been the same five guys now right. So when I say there's continuity keeping those five together, there's continuity and they start learning to play together, and that's what you're seeing. I think these last couple of weeks you're seeing that.
And it was a.
You know, just a great game by those guys again today.
So that was Doug Peterson talking about the offensive line, and I agree with him one hundred percent continuity. But here's my critique, and I'm going to follow up with something I've discussed on this show with Pete personally, with anyone who listened to me. This is why you should play your offensive line and have a bunch more during the preseason in training camp because of what he just said. He's one hundred percent right. The longer an offensive line plays together, it's a position. You need to be in sync. You need to communicate, you need to learn how to play together, you need to get the pad level down, all things that takes reps to do. And so my pet peeve not just with our team, with every team in this league, not every because some teams do it differently. I would most don't. Most don't. So how Doug does it is probably the norm. Is I think that offensive line, let's take everyone. I would play that. I would practice them harder in training camp.
Would Can you do that with the way practices are?
You can do it as much as you like. I mean, you can do it more than That's not true. You should maximize what you have and we don't.
We do not.
We do not. You should maximize and you should maximize every padded practice you have during training camp. I would play all five of those guys if they're healthy. Obviously we have some injuries this camp, so we couldn't. I would play them extended periods of times. And if guys are hurt, I said, okay, well I'm not gonna play maybe the starter as much this game. But when you're all healthy, you're playing a long time, like half half in a you know, a series in the second I mean why and but you're working.
Against another team, you're playing together.
You're playing together, and we are gonna and like when we have a team here, both are gonna be pad of practices, not just one. Because you as an offensive lineman you get nothing, actually get bad habits because you stand up and you don't finish, you don't do stuff. And so I agree with Doug this one of the reasons this group is playing together. They've stayed healthy for the first five games they've played together, and you can see them improving, especially over the last two weeks. Well why because they're working together. They're getting more reps, they're getting pad level down, they're working better double teams. They're working to the next level, they're finishing better. That's all stuff that you should develop in camp in the preseason.
And Tony, to your point, we're at week five, right, Yes, the scoring started.
The scoring started going up again this week because people are blocking people because the preseason is the first four weeks.
Now.
It's bad football. It's terrible.
I'm gonna gives an example of it of a play and I tweeted it out there on Bigsby's run. You saw Cleveland and Morse had the double and he got he got off of it. Yeah, and got it a linebacker and there's there's the whole run up touchdown that takes work. You can't just simulate that with dummies, you know that, Tony, and I thought.
And I thought on the other side, I thought, I thought Anton and Sheriff had some nice double teams working together. I thought it was like good football, it's fun to watch. I enjoyed this morning. I mean, I mean, I was like, this is what is supposed to look like. But it's there's no mystery why it doesn't right because they don't get enough rip in. What I get what drives me crazy is everyone's afraid of injuries. Why don't get my guys hurt in the preseason or in camp or what.
Yeah, but playing bad for a quarter of your season is just as dance.
Hold on, why are there more injuries now than when I played? And we beat the hell out of each other. Now, I'm not saying you should go back to what we did. That was probably too far the other way. Two a days for four weeks, and I mean just the you know I was. You know, I'm like, Okay, I get it, I know, but but I'll say this. You go turn on the tape early season games. We were playing good football. We were playing at a level you had to because everyone else was too.
And yeah, because you played in the preseason.
You played in the preseason, our preseason two to three series, preseason game one quarter and a half, two a half, depending how it was going. Preseason two, preseason three full half and at least one drive in the third quarter, preseason four or ten.
Plays plus padded practices, a lot more than what we see.
Now double days. And when we went to a team for day it was an all out brawl. It was physical. And so I get that. I'm not I'm not the old guy saying, hey, you gotta go back and do it like that.
I know you can't do it like that.
It's against the CBA rules the union.
Even if they weren't, you still couldn't do it that way anymore.
I don't think you have to. I actually think one practice a day, in getting after it for four weeks or three or a half weeks, whatever it is, and playing these guys more in the preseason, I think you would have a huge advantage opening day because you would be further ahead, progressing, playing more in sync together. Offensive line would be protecting and running the ball better, which gives your quarterback more time, and your skill guys get open and everything else, and your back to that room, you beat up people. It just changes. And so Doug is one hundred percent right his whole point. Man, I agree with him. We're seeing better play for one of the reasons because the continuity and then getting used to each other, understanding each other, getting better pad level, better footwork, better doubles, better pass protection because they're wrapping it and they're doing it live and they're going full speed. They don't do that enough on this team or most.
Of the ANSA around.
The league, and I just and I don't buy. Oh, we're worried about guys getting hurt. We've been playing football forever. And by the way, like I don't remember outside of two thousand and it was the first padded practice of the of the of the camp when Leon Sercy tore a squad where all five guys were not the starters, were not their opening day. Now, did a guy miss a preseason game here or there, or miss a practice or two, Sure, but you were getting reps. And then guess what your backups were getting a lot of reps. And what were you doing. You were developing young offensive linemen. What are we lacking in this league today? We don't lack I don't. We don't lack wide receivers. Bunny guys can run, catch and do amazing things. We don't lack backs. We lacked two positions and off we don't lack tight ends, offensive linemen and elite quarterbacks. There's not enough, Like I don't think you could have more than thirty two teams because I don't know if there's enough offensive linemen. The base of the way the college game is played today and the lack of practice they have at that level, and the lack of coaching in some places are getting and their lack of understanding how an offense actually works and what fronts are and what you know, coverages and all the different things are aren't taught anymore, and the lack and then so now we're taking those guys to this level with the limited practices, is not enough time to develop them, and no wonder the result is just awful football in September because nobody can block anybody.
It's you know what to Tony, think about this? With all the seven on seven camps that are out there. Now we have some of the greatest receivers at seventeen eighty, oh my god, twenty years old you've ever seen. And so that position has mushroomed into something special, and the grunt position, the offensive line has morphed into something that is dreadful. And you talk about depth, go watch some of the XFL UFL where those teams are.
You want to see bad offensive line play because of your theory.
I exactly what I'm telling you, because offensive line is a harder position to play than anything else besides quarterback, because of what you're being asked to do in the in the athletes you're playing against it, and it has to be in coordination across the line with everyone else, and you have to do things together combo blocks, and you're backing up to protect somebody with a guy come full speed at you, like the only way. Like at some level you can just like, is Brian Thomas jor a great route runner right now? Is he a great route runner? No?
No?
Was Jimmy Smith a great route runner year in nineteen ninety six?
No?
What they are now? Jimmy Smith became an outstanding route runner right over the middle. Why he's one of the best ever. And I believe Brian Thomas Junior will become an outstanding route runner as he progresses and he gets wrapped. Why is he so effective as a rookie Because he's a supreme athlete. He's just a better athlete. He can fly, he has good hands, he's you know, and I'm not saying I'm sure he works hard and all that. I'm not taking that away. As an offensive lineman, you can be the best athlete you want to be if you don't have the technique in understand the position and how to work in coordination with another guy and and double teams and understand passe sets and angles and what a defensive lineman is trying to do to you and everything else. I'm not saying. Receivers not a technical You have to learn how to get off the jam, all those things and those things. But you only get that as an offensive lineman by reps, and you only get better by live reps because you end up getting some bad habits, especially in the run game. If it's not because your pads get too high and you don't, you don't. It's not the same like because you're right. The last thing, and I'll let you go, is you're right seven on s. You can replicate a lot of stuff with no pads on and get a lot of reps in the with low risk, no contact, and then that simulates very similar to what it's gonna happen on game day. You can't do that as an offensive alignment. It is impossible.
And here's the other thing, real quick, in the back of the day, he used to be able to take a tackle who couldn't be a tackle and develop him into a guard.
Zach, Zach, Zach Martin.
I can go back to Marshall yonda media, you know, on and on and on, hey Ben Coleman, who played next to you at guard, was once tackle. Well, now it's so tough to do that because you don't have the developmental time.
The hitting it's different.
So when you say, okay, I used to always look for guys when I used to look by analysis, say well he's not good enough to play tackle, but boy, you could move him inside and make him a guard. That's hard to do now because you don't have the developmental time to do it.
You're not hitting, You're not hitting anybody.
And I'll end with this, I know we got a break. I understand Doug's hesitancy because to do what I'm saying is going against the grain. And if somebody does get.
Hurt, it's on you.
The finger is gonna get pointed. And so it's not just the head coach who has to have that philosophy. It has to be the whole organization that this is what we believe. And I'm not just talking about the Jaguars. I'm talking league wide. And so I get why coaches are like because if I put my starter out there and he gets hurt, everyone's gonna say, why are you playing him in the preseason. Well, the simple answer is that's how you play football and that's how you get better at things. But it would be a bigin That's my point. It wasn't a big deal when I played because that's how everyone did it right. And I think it's an opportunity for somebody in this league. And I know some teams that do it, not a lot, though I know a couple, but I think it's an opportunity for a team in this league, saying, at least for the big guys, we are going to practice and we are going to be physical and they're going to play because opening day we are going to be ready to roll and I just don't think teams are. And I think and I'd love to do that. Every year we talked about this at some point on this show, and I always threaten to do this and I never do it. It'd be great to do, Like go look, and I'm sure there's studies out there the injuries that happened in today's game compared to when camp in preparation was different because there's a lot of injuries still, tissue injuries, a lot of I don't know what it is, but I'd like to look at it because I know one thing I can turn on the tape and for the first part of the season September, a lot of bad football and a lot of offensive line player that's not very good.
Ky needs to wave the paper like JB does this shut you up session? All right?
They kept it real on the offensive line. Coming back. We're gonna do our fanatic fan questions here on Jaguars Happy Are presented by mister Chubb's Wings.
Kind Of been our season so far.
In that game today and.
In moments when we needed it the most, got stepped up and we were able to fight through that adversity. So it just you know, builds confidence, you know that, and moments that we needed. We have the guys, we have the people, We have the team that can step up and doing it. So we just got to you know, keep it rolling, you know, use this this momentum to you know, take it over to London and keep accumulating wins.
Welcome back into Jags Am here, jag Sam Here, Jaguars Happy. I'm doing too many shows today. Jaguars Happy are here, presented by mister Chubby's Wings. We did see some fight back from this team. A lot of things had not been going their way earlier. This season and they weren't able to bounce back. They did just that, getting their first win of the year in the throwback uniforms looking stylish.
Talk how about those jerseys, guy.
So I feel I'm unbiased because I was not around when they were here. They just look better. Are they green? Are they brighter? Are they green? The color is better, more Teal, the more Teal, the Teal itself is better. And then the the society.
The ribbing, the logo and the ribbing and all that. Yeah, it's just much better looking uniform.
I know every fan base wants their throwbacks, but this is justified. They are entirely better.
Trevor wore black shoes. Did you notice that?
I did not. I didn't pick that up.
It looked, it looked. It looked much better than black shoes. So maybe you should wear them again.
I'll tell you what though, I'm with you, Kai, and I'm biased because those jersey but.
They thought they market better, market better, and.
I I'm just going on the record now and say I like our home jerseys being Teal jerseys white pants.
I don't think we wear Teal enough.
I like her like Teal jerseys white pants. And on the road. I like the white jerseys with white pants. I just like, that's what you used to wear. That's what we did in September at home. If it was hot, we'd wear the white jerseys and make them wear the dark ris. But I just I just and what I just thought, because it kind of gives you an identity of who you are too. It's like, this is who like, this is who we are, this is what we wear.
The funny thing is, back in the day, I didn't I thought that uniform was kind of ah. And now now compared to what they've been wearing, I think it's ten times better, so much better.
Well, but here's the thing. I'm in the minority because this is the old guy talking, because I think the young guys like the different combinations and different looks and you know, all black. Sometimes I am too. That's just me. So I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but my opinion.
Arizona Cardinals all whites, used to be a great uniform.
Oh great, all right, guys, it's do some Fanatics fan questions. Jaguars fans, you can get up at fanatics dot com with all the latest jag styles. Shop now get today's special offer at fanatics dot Com officially licensed everything. Pete, this one's for you because I know you're gonna love it. Did Tank give you Fred Taylor MJD vibes yesterday breaking through those tackles?
He did, he ran physical, But did he give me vibes of those guys?
Absolutely not, No way, No.
I mean, look, that's a high bar.
Yes, yeah, I.
Mean you're comparing him to the Technically, he's a backup running back right now, and you're comparing him to the best running back ever on that team, a guy who should be Canton and a special guy who's the number two ranked running back in the franchise. So it's way too early for that. So the answer to that question is no and no.
I would agree with Pete on everything, but I'll say this, I would like to see what he looks like if he got the ball twenty times a game.
Should he be your starter?
I think that the starter is more situational of kind.
Of what you think he should lead the team in carries every week.
I do think he I think he should have more carries than anyone else. Now, if you get in a situation where you know Travis is hot, and I mean I think there's nothing wrong with running right in the hot hand. I think there's probably plays that Travis does better than Tank. I think we have the luxury of having two very good backs. That's a that's a luxury. But if you're asking me who I would make the workhorse, I would make Tank the workhorse.
Should they make it like the Ravens use Justice Hill and Derek Henton.
I think that's a good. That's a good, that's a good comparison, that's a good example therapy. I think that's I didn't think of that, but yes, all.
Right, to do a couple of questions about the defense. We talked about the secondary. The issues with that comeback in the fourth quarter. What's your level of concern with the secondary, specifically the safety positions.
It's got to be pretty high right now because we're seeing some bus you know, and and some tackling.
A little yet so terrible.
I got concerns, and I mean, I mean, let me say this about the two safeties. I thought both of them would take major steps forward this year, and they've actually gone in the other direction. And it's weird for Cisco because he's in a contract year. That one surprised me a little bit. Uh, he hasn't played very well. Antonio Johnson looks like at times he doesn't even want to tackle anybody.
I don't that. So when this is.
Gonna sound crazy, but Tony, when Tshawn Gibson comes back.
And Winger comes back, they might play.
Should they start, I wouldn't go that far yet. We haven't seen either of You don't know how Dewey's knees gonna be or actually back. And to Sean, Gibson's on a six game suspension, so you don't know what he's gonna look like when he gets back. There is concern.
They've been the biggest to me, they've been the biggest disappointment in the entire team in terms of defense, those two have not played very well.
I mean that's fair. I think a couple of bright spots. Monteric Brown, you know now he got beat over the top late on the overall physical He's not a big dude and he plays big and I mean fist. He's not fair. He's very competitive. I'm like really like, like I was worried about our corner depth and then Tyson Campbell got hurt. I was like, oh no, I was wrong. Flat wrong, Monteric Brown playing good football, and the other real positive and I mean really interested to see what they do. Coming up here pretty quickly is Vontrell Miller. I don't know when when Foyer comes back. How do you have vontrelle on the sideline like he's your best linebacker right now?
Well the way they say, I'm sure that find a way, but I don't know.
How he's not on the field every now.
The hockey team will find a way to get him twenty five.
But you know what I'm saying, I mean, he's I mean, he's a tackling machine. When he hits you, you.
Make a splash.
Plays makes splash plays, give them.
He got his coverage needs to improve. I agree with that. People.
When he covered the one guy and man the man coverage, he went out and made a play on him, and he and.
His speed shuts down those stuff in the shuts down stuff in the flat. He gets there really quickly. He's got to stay on the field no matter what.
He has to stay on the field, all right, And you just got you have to admit a mistake.
Which one here we go, keep going, guy, don't don't bite, don't bite, don't bite, don't bite.
We're gonna do our final.
I'm a skip.
I'm a skip one. We're gonna do our final. Fan question, do the boys get it done and come back from London three and four?
I'll let Pete go first. I'm gonna say they do.
All right, Tony, Well, they're definitely gonna get one because they'll beat New England and I think they'll beat the Bears. I'm not crazy of the Bears like some people are. I still think the quarterbacks got issues. I think the offensive lines got issues. I think that they'll find a way to win it.
I'm gonna say not only do I think they're gonna come back three and four. I'm gonna lock. Everyone's gonna three and four. I'm not gonna allow Pete the Lockett. No, we're gonna No, he's not because the last time we double locked it was a disaster. Triple lock. No, triple lock has been really negative. Although you've never looked, j P.
Tri block might be tripl might be great.
You can double, you can do a double. I'm comfortable doing a double lock with you. I'm not with Pete or JP.
I'm not in.
I'm not in all right, double Lockett.
Double locket Kai with the lock I'm in Let's.
Go Monday Happy our first of the year.
When they come back from London and they don't get either one of them to start talking about the.
Drill, J can deal with it then.
So the beautiful thing is Kai has no accountability this thing because we come back. Kyle's what shock for the one after London is.
He Oh, yeah, you're gonna have to be here work.
Let's go on. It's not gonna go poorly. We're gonna do it. That's gonna be great, got it, wins, I love it all.
Right, stay with us here on Diagon's Happy ar presented by mister Chubby's coming Back. We'll talk about what else is going on in the NFL.
And then CBS said early in the game that you and Gabe.
Kind of got into it and you maybe even threw a tablet.
Was there was there an exchange over there on the sideline?
It down firmly?
Now, uh yeah, we were set it down roughly, yeah.
Exactly loosely. Yeah, I mean we're just it happens in this game.
I mean if you people that have played it, no, people that have it probably don't really understand all the emotions I go into it and and there was some frustration.
We had a little back and forth and cleared it up. That's all it is, you know.
I think that's what stuff like that's important. And I love when stuff like that happens. You confront issues and hey, if I'm pissed about something, he's pissed about something, let's talk about it and move on.
And we did a great job of that.
You know, Gabe's always good at communicating, so got on the same page quick and it was good back here.
I'm happy our quarterback. Trevor Lawrence, addressing the reports on the broadcast about him and gave Davis getting into it on the sideline, Tony said, sometimes you get into it and then oh gosh, we're all friends now again.
It's it's a non story. What Trevor said is exactly right. Anybody who's played the game, coached the game, or covered the game closely, it's a non issue. I mean, I've been involved in heated discussions with players and a lot of time coaches in the heat of the battle. Why because it matters. It's important. You're competitive. If you can be frustrated, you want things going better. Whatever it is, and I think emotion's good. And I always laugh at sometimes the media does this, sometimes our fans do this. Is you hear them say we want players to care and have emotion and be all in and then something that where emotion, you know, I use just you know, I might've gotten a couple of personal fouls when I played, or you're get to a fight or it blows up on the sideline and everyone's like, oh, you can't do that. You have to have more self control, Like listen, what do you want? This is an emotional game, and guys put a lot into it. And by the way, we're laying our bodies on the line, you're risking like your health and like you care. Yes, you get paid a lot of money, but it's important to you. And when you have emotion and you all in on something and it's not going the way you want, sometimes tempers are gonna flare and things are going to be said. And I don't even get into what happens in the locker room on the practice field. Sometime that's okay. Now it's not okay. If it bubbles over and it carries over and it becomes personal, it causes a wedge in the locker room, which obviously it has not. But in the heat of the moment, you let your emotion out, you get it out, you deal with it, and you move on and your teammates and your you know, friends and your you know, working peers, and all the things that go into it, and you move on and going to the next thing. That's part of it, and that's part of playing that it's not a big deal.
It's never a big deal.
But but here's what it what I would like to though, And I don't know if anybody asked the question.
What was it about.
This was after the third down where he was wide open and they went to brentsvill st the short on the sticks and then they didn't get the fourth This was right after that possession.
Yeah, so he did before the gate.
He's got him on the second level and he throws to the left side for a short completion on third down that set him up and fourth and.
One wanted to I would assume he want.
Okay, and in fairness he was open, and in fairness to Trevor, it ain't exactly like Gabe Davis, you.
Know, was a bullet getting to get there either. So I'll just say this. I mean, first of all, this is what receivers do.
You want them to want the ball?
And you know he learned from you know where he learned from, don't you well?
But Pete, I'm not I'm not gonna touch gave Davis right now. I'm gonna go back to when you cover the team. Did you ever hear Keenan, who was never not open say anything?
Hey, look, John Osher and myself will swear to this day, and I tell I told Keenan this to his face.
And keen is a wide receiver coach now so and he's.
A good maybe the best one, the one of the best in the league.
And I used to tell him Keenan was happier when he caught eleven for one seventy touchdown than he was when he caught two for fourteen and they won. If they lost, he he takes eleven and the loss, then the two in the win.
It's not It's not. Keenan was one of the teammates I've ever had. But Keenan and Jimmy they wanted the ball.
And when he went to champ it was meaning in me Sean, and.
I'll say it's an offensive linement I've got had it out with quarterbacks. Of course, get rid of it, throw it? What are you doing back there? And they're yelling at us? Attack it hit me time? Why are you getting hit? I mean it's it's emotional out there. So it's a non story now where it becomes a story, and we've seen this in the league, if either one of the parties carries it over to the locker room and it goes on for days and weeks, that's when it becomes because now you have to have other people in the locker room asking questions what's going on as their divide.
Josh Allen, it became an issue.
He became an issue. But if you just deal with it, like Trevor said, you squashed it, it motion. Okay, We're good. Fact it's non fact. It's not a big deal, all right.
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It was fantastic.
Up and down the field they went, and they go to overtime and the Ravens give the ball away and overtime on a on a box snap and the Bengals play for their long field goal. By the way, they didn't play to get any more yards and the holder dropped the drop the snap and next play Derrick Henry go They miss it. Derek Henry goes sixty yards, they make a field goal point black and win the game. Now the Bengals are sitting there at one and four. Great game, though Joe Burrow five touchdown passes.
I thought Burrow's comment I read I didn't hear it basically saying we are not a championship football team right now.
They're one and four.
It's true, and he doesn't and he says they not that they can't be. It's just right now, they're not right defensive.
And I read something and maybe this was an X so maybe this is just non true. Pete, you'd know or you have a sense that t Higgins might be available at the trade trade Daniel trade deadline because of some friction or something going on there.
Well, he has and plus he he has a new he wants a new contract. They haven't you know, they haven't given it to him.
They haven't paid him or Chase, Yeah, better pay Chase. He's he's not very good.
Is he?
Oh?
My god?
I think Brian Thomas is on his way to be in that kind of player though?
Is LSU wide receivers?
I mean, how did elis you ever lose Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase? Uh the neighbors?
Was Joe Burrow throwing it justin? Think about this was Joe Burrow throwing it Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and it was Jade Daniels throwing to Brian Thomas.
And how they ever lose?
I guess, I guess.
Remember they won the National that's sure.
He never did. But have Jadon Daniels ever lose a game?
Texans beat the Bills as well, which is not great for us in the division, But it's up with the back.
That was Josh Allen was the receivers were bad.
He wasn't good, and they still found themselves with the ball down on the you know, point blank range down three and they couldn't get in after after Stroud fumble, they couldn't get a touchdown and then they played it at the end of the game. They got the ball back with like thirty seconds and through three passes and they llwed him and then they punted and they had a time out and they let him go kick the field goal.
Terrible game management.
The uh and Josh Allen got beat up, Pete.
But the Texans haven't been as good as I thought they would be.
Just yet.
Just yet.
Well they are four and one. They got a nice little but.
They played a lot. Think about it. Jacksonville probably should have beat him, could have lost yesterday.
They and Bears took him to the mat to the end.
Right, they haven't.
I thought this was gonna be a year where they became dynamic on offense and hasn't worked out that way.
And the Colts took him to the end too. Yeah, they've They've won a lot of close games. Give them credit.
Yeah, yeah, Cowboy is wanted at one am so over the Steelers.
That was amazing.
Did you stay up for that, Pete? Hell yeah, Oh not me. I'm too old. I went to sleep catching the wall.
All right, guys, you have any I don't have full time because we' running late on time. You got a Monday Night football pick Saints and Chiefs.
Chiefs. Chiefs again cheeks Chiefs have they have some weapon issues? I mean, the question is who's gonna Who's gonna step out?
Don't get the ball to worthy A bunch of different ways.
And one more thing.
Derek Carr struggles against He's one and five against Steve Spagnola. You know why, Tony because they glitzed the hot of him and don't like it.
Yep, blitz wi splitz. Taylor Swift is gonna be in the building. Chiefs probably go to five.
And oh that means my daughter will be watching as she should. She's a big swiftie, as she should.
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