The Lil Durk trial has reached jury deliberations—and the longer the verdict takes, the more questions surround OTF Jam, OTF Vonnie, the alleged lack of payment, and the government’s case. In this full episode of Internal Affairs, Loon delivers continuing Lil Durk trial coverage from inside the evidence and outside the internet noise. He breaks down why the jury may be taking its time, which parts of the cooperating witnesses’ testimony could create reasonable doubt, and how the same testimony can help the prosecution in one moment and hurt it in the next. Loon drills into one of the biggest questions hanging over the case: if a murder-for-hire agreement existed, where is the payment? He explains why the absence of a clear transaction can support the defense—but also why the government may argue that no payment was ever needed to prove its theory. The conversation examines OTF Jam, OTF Vonnie, the travel evidence, alleged communications after the shooting, and the pressure jurors face when a man’s freedom is on the line. The episode also breaks down the closing arguments from Brian Steel and Drew Findling. Loon examines Steel’s decision to attack OTF Jam’s credibility, the defense’s portrayal of Jam as a violent and unreliable witness, and whether Findling’s courtroom style gave jurors enough substance when the stakes were highest. Then Loon turns to Akademiks. After the government referenced content from Lil Durk’s interview, Loon explains why media footage does not disappear once it enters the federal courtroom—and why Akademiks’ history with 6ix9ine, King Von and Lil Durk cannot be separated from the larger public narrative surrounding the case. Loon also discusses what a hung jury could mean, whether prosecutors could retry unresolved counts, how King Von connects to OTF Vonnie’s access, and whether more federal pressure could follow after this trial. Later in the episode, Internal Affairs examines Adam22 and Lena the Plug’s reported separation, the business and relationship pressures behind their public conversation, and the symbolism Loon saw in the Drake wedding-ring moment. This episode was recorded while the jury was still deliberating. Trial developments may have changed after recording. All charges and claims discussed remain allegations unless proven in court, and every defendant is presumed innocent unless and until found guilty. What do you believe the jury is wrestling with most: witness credibility, the missing payment, the travel evidence, or the Akademiks interview? Subscribe to Internal Affairs with Loon, turn on notifications, and share this episode with somebody following the Lil Durk trial #LilDurk #LilDurkTrial #otfjam 00:00 Jury Deliberations and Verdict Watch 06:12 Closing Arguments and Witness Credibility 14:48 Why the Alleged Lack of Payment Matters 21:35 King Von and Lil Durk’s Street-vs.-Rap Collision 29:42 Akademiks Enters the Government’s Courtroom Narrative 38:26 Could the Case End in a Hung Jury? 44:10 Loon Presses Drew Findling Over Akademiks 51:38 What a Hung Jury Would Mean for Lil Durk 57:16 Brian Steel Attacks OTF Jam’s Credibility 1:04:22 The Missing Payment Evidence 1:09:47 Has Justice Already Been Served? 1:15:18 How OTF Vonnie Got Close to Lil Durk 1:20:36 Could More Charges or a RICO Follow? 1:24:48 Adam22 and Lena the Plug’s Separation 1:27:12 The Drake Wedding-Ring Moment 1:29:05 Final Thoughts and Patreon Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO